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| AirRaid 2006-08-08, 7:45 pm |
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By Greg Sandoval
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: August 7, 2006, 6:50 PM PDT
LOS ANGELES--Microsoft on Monday offered the first glimpse of an
external HD DVD drive built for the Xbox 360 game console.
Kevin Collins, senior program manager at Microsoft, demonstrated the HD
DVD drive, which he said is scheduled to hit store shelves for the
upcoming holiday shopping season, to attendees of the DVD Forum here.
The device--about the size of a hardback book--played "The Phantom of
the Opera" as Collins pulled up a menu bar to display a few of its
navigation and interactive features that can be called up on screen
while a movie is playing. Collins said Microsoft's HD DVD drive will be
among the least expensive of the HD DVD players, but he declined to
disclose the drive's retail price.
"All the audio and video processing is done inside the Xbox," said
Collins, who noted that research has shown that a majority of Xbox
owners already own high-definition displays. An Xbox drive provides
them with all the other equipment they need to watch HD DVD movies, he
said.
"This gives consumers choice and keeps their cost down," Collins said
Microsoft has chosen to back the HD DVD format over Blu-ray. Both
technologies are vying to replace the DVD format and are represented by
consortiums that include electronics makers and Hollywood studios.
Video game machines may prove to be a crucial battleground for the two
formats, some observers predict.
In November, Sony's PlayStation 3 is expected to debut equipped with a
Blu-ray drive. In contrast to Microsoft's strategy to go with an
external drive, PlayStation's drive will be built in.
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| Pez D Spencer 2006-08-08, 7:45 pm |
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AirRaid wrote:
quote:
> "All the audio and video processing is done inside the Xbox," said
> Collins, who noted that research has shown that a majority of Xbox
> owners already own high-definition displays. An Xbox drive provides
> them with all the other equipment they need to watch HD DVD movies, he
> said.
well, if all the math is done in the console, then i don't see why this
add on should go for more than 200.
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"AirRaid" <AirRaidJet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm glad to see that this drive is going to be external. It would really
suck of they did it internally and made an "HD Version" and screwed all of
us "first gen" 360 owners haha.
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> By Greg Sandoval
> Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>
> Published: August 7, 2006, 6:50 PM PDT
>
> LOS ANGELES--Microsoft on Monday offered the first glimpse of an
> external HD DVD drive built for the Xbox 360 game console.
>
> Kevin Collins, senior program manager at Microsoft, demonstrated the HD
> DVD drive, which he said is scheduled to hit store shelves for the
> upcoming holiday shopping season, to attendees of the DVD Forum here.
>
>
> The device--about the size of a hardback book--played "The Phantom of
> the Opera" as Collins pulled up a menu bar to display a few of its
> navigation and interactive features that can be called up on screen
> while a movie is playing. Collins said Microsoft's HD DVD drive will be
> among the least expensive of the HD DVD players, but he declined to
> disclose the drive's retail price.
>
> "All the audio and video processing is done inside the Xbox," said
> Collins, who noted that research has shown that a majority of Xbox
> owners already own high-definition displays. An Xbox drive provides
> them with all the other equipment they need to watch HD DVD movies, he
> said.
>
> "This gives consumers choice and keeps their cost down," Collins said
>
> Microsoft has chosen to back the HD DVD format over Blu-ray. Both
> technologies are vying to replace the DVD format and are represented by
> consortiums that include electronics makers and Hollywood studios.
>
> Video game machines may prove to be a crucial battleground for the two
> formats, some observers predict.
>
> In November, Sony's PlayStation 3 is expected to debut equipped with a
> Blu-ray drive. In contrast to Microsoft's strategy to go with an
> external drive, PlayStation's drive will be built in.
>
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| Unmutual 2006-08-08, 7:45 pm |
| wong-lawrence@hotmail.com wrote:
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> "AirRaid" <AirRaidJet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155063807.389462.173310@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> I'm glad to see that this drive is going to be external. It would really
> suck of they did it internally and made an "HD Version" and screwed all
> of us "first gen" 360 owners haha.
>
I'm confident that will happen some time and it would probably be a
smart move for microsoft to do it sooner rather than later. Not sure it
would bother me all that much as long as it didn't become a requirement
for games.
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| wong-lawrence@hotmail.com wrote:
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> I'm glad to see that this drive is going to be external. It would really
> suck of they did it internally and made an "HD Version" and screwed all of
> us "first gen" 360 owners haha.
Not sure why it would screw us. We have the option of buying the
external drive.
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| Jordan 2006-08-08, 7:45 pm |
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AirRaid wrote:
quote:
> "This gives consumers choice and keeps their cost down," Collins said
And if Blu-Ray does end up winning you just release a plug in Blu-Ray
drive.
- Jordan
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| Jordan 2006-08-08, 7:45 pm |
| Tom wrote:
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> wong-lawrence@hotmail.com wrote:
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> Not sure why it would screw us. We have the option of buying the
> external drive.
External drive is for movies only, not for games. If they came out with
an internal drive that was capable of playing games from HD-DVD we
would be screwed.
Of course, I guess, they could always do a dashboard or firmware update
that allowed for gameplay from the external HD-DVD drive.
- Jordan
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| Jordan wrote:
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> External drive is for movies only, not for games. If they came out with
> an internal drive that was capable of playing games from HD-DVD we
> would be screwed.
>
Screwed unless they decided to offer DVD and HD-DVD versions of games,
with the DVD version being on multiple discs.
I doubt this scenario though, both retailers and game companies
wouldn't want the hassle of two media types to deal with.
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| Jordan wrote:
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> AirRaid wrote:
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> And if Blu-Ray does end up winning you just release a plug in Blu-Ray
> drive.
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> - Jordan
>
so if the ps3 will cost around $500, why not buy a ps3 instead of a 360?
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| Geena Phillips 2006-08-08, 7:45 pm |
| Tom wrote:
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> Jordan wrote:
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> Screwed unless they decided to offer DVD and HD-DVD versions of games,
> with the DVD version being on multiple discs.
>
> I doubt this scenario though, both retailers and game companies
> wouldn't want the hassle of two media types to deal with.
Yeah, well, neither do consumers, but that hasn't stopped the studios
and hardware manufacturers from sticking us right in the middle of their
stupid HD-DVD/Blu-Ray format war.
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| Tim Bird 2006-08-09, 5:47 am |
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"Ghost" <night-rider@Cookieshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:wO8Cg.354777$Mn5.353149@pd7tw3no...
quote:
> Jordan wrote:
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> so if the ps3 will cost around $500, why not buy a ps3 instead of a 360?
If you've already got a 360 and the blu-ray drive (if they ever release
one - HD-DVD loses for example) is only half the cost of a PS3 then you'll
not want a PS3 will you?
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| David Parkes 2006-08-09, 5:47 am |
| Thats chuffin ugly
"AirRaid" <AirRaidJet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> http://www.tinyurl.com/mh2so
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> http://i.n.com.com/i/ne/p/2006/xbox0226_550x413.jpg
> http://i.n.com.com/i/ne/p/2006/xbox231_550x413.jpg
>
> By Greg Sandoval
> Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>
> Published: August 7, 2006, 6:50 PM PDT
>
> LOS ANGELES--Microsoft on Monday offered the first glimpse of an
> external HD DVD drive built for the Xbox 360 game console.
>
> Kevin Collins, senior program manager at Microsoft, demonstrated the HD
> DVD drive, which he said is scheduled to hit store shelves for the
> upcoming holiday shopping season, to attendees of the DVD Forum here.
>
>
> The device--about the size of a hardback book--played "The Phantom of
> the Opera" as Collins pulled up a menu bar to display a few of its
> navigation and interactive features that can be called up on screen
> while a movie is playing. Collins said Microsoft's HD DVD drive will be
> among the least expensive of the HD DVD players, but he declined to
> disclose the drive's retail price.
>
> "All the audio and video processing is done inside the Xbox," said
> Collins, who noted that research has shown that a majority of Xbox
> owners already own high-definition displays. An Xbox drive provides
> them with all the other equipment they need to watch HD DVD movies, he
> said.
>
> "This gives consumers choice and keeps their cost down," Collins said
>
> Microsoft has chosen to back the HD DVD format over Blu-ray. Both
> technologies are vying to replace the DVD format and are represented by
> consortiums that include electronics makers and Hollywood studios.
>
> Video game machines may prove to be a crucial battleground for the two
> formats, some observers predict.
>
> In November, Sony's PlayStation 3 is expected to debut equipped with a
> Blu-ray drive. In contrast to Microsoft's strategy to go with an
> external drive, PlayStation's drive will be built in.
>
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| Ghost wrote:
quote:
> so if the ps3 will cost around $500, why not buy a ps3 instead of a 360?
Because that way you don't get stuck paying an extra $100-200 if you
don't care about either format.
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"Ghost" <night-rider@Cookieshaw.ca> wrote in message
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Because the PS3 won't have Forza 2, Fable 2, Halo 3 and Perfect Dark Zero =P
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> Jordan wrote:
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> so if the ps3 will cost around $500, why not buy a ps3 instead of a 360?
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| Jordan 2006-08-09, 8:10 pm |
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Ghost wrote:
quote:
> so if the ps3 will cost around $500, why not buy a ps3 instead of a 360?
The $500 PS3 isn't worth buying any more than the $300 360.
Plus, the 360 is out now and actually has a decent library of games.
- Jordan
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| Mattinglyfan 2006-08-09, 8:10 pm |
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<wong-lawrence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:
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> "Ghost" <night-rider@Cookieshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:wO8Cg.354777$Mn5.353149@pd7tw3no...
> Because the PS3 won't have Forza 2, Fable 2, Halo 3 and Perfect Dark Zero
> =P
>
Awful lot of sequels there. How about you get into a pissing match when
you've actually played the games you are bragging about. PDZ is not even
one of the 10 best 360 games currently out. Anyway, someone will follow up
with, "the 360 won't have .......... Socom, Jak, blah, blah"
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| Mattinglyfan 2006-08-09, 8:10 pm |
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"Jordan" <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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quote:
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> Ghost wrote:
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> The $500 PS3 isn't worth buying any more than the $300 360.
>
> Plus, the 360 is out now and actually has a decent library of games.
>
> - Jordan
>
Except for the fact that the $500 PS3 has even more than the premium 360.
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| Mattinglyfan 2006-08-09, 8:10 pm |
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"Dub" <dub273@gmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> Ghost wrote:
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> Because that way you don't get stuck paying an extra $100-200 if you
> don't care about either format.
>
Because the PS3 will utilize its format for games (which is why most people
buy consoles) while the HD-DVD attachment is just a movie player.
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| Unmutual 2006-08-09, 8:10 pm |
| Mattinglyfan wrote:
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> "Dub" <dub273@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155125386.471955.165620@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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> Because the PS3 will utilize its format for games (which is why most people
> buy consoles) while the HD-DVD attachment is just a movie player.
>
>
Yeah....gotta love those long load times blue ray is gonna bring. ;-)
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| Mattinglyfan wrote:
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> Because the PS3 will utilize its format for games (which is why most people
> buy consoles) while the HD-DVD attachment is just a movie player.
The only thing the format will do for gaming is to enable more
high-definition FMV scenes. That's it.
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| Jordan 2006-08-09, 8:10 pm |
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Mattinglyfan wrote:
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> "Jordan" <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:1155135903.994122.286760@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
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> Except for the fact that the $500 PS3 has even more than the premium 360.
Well, it's got a bigger hard drive, but I haven't used all the space on
my 360 drive yet. Heck, I still haven't used all the space on the
original Xbox drive yet. Other than that... it's got Blu-Ray which
doesn't really seem to be a benefit at this point in time.
- Jordan
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| Mattinglyfan 2006-08-09, 11:45 pm |
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"Jordan" <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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quote:
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> Mattinglyfan wrote:
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> Well, it's got a bigger hard drive, but I haven't used all the space on
> my 360 drive yet. Heck, I still haven't used all the space on the
> original Xbox drive yet. Other than that... it's got Blu-Ray which
> doesn't really seem to be a benefit at this point in time.
>
> - Jordan
>
It doesn't have a "bigger" hard drive, it has one. Wireless controller?
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| Phat Bytestard 2006-08-10, 5:59 am |
| On 8 Aug 2006 12:17:03 -0700, "Pez D Spencer" <colecoadam@gmail.com>
Gave us:
quote:
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>AirRaid wrote:
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>well, if all the math is done in the console, then i don't see why this
>add on should go for more than 200.
Before the texture map can be displayed or processed, it has to be
read, and HD DVD allows higher data rates on the read, as well as
larger texture files and more of them.
It's quite simple really. More "crisp imagery" type games.
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| Phat Bytestard 2006-08-10, 5:59 am |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:27:43 -0400, Geena Phillips
<gbeenie@comcast.netrosexual> Gave us:
quote:
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>Yeah, well, neither do consumers, but that hasn't stopped the studios
>and hardware manufacturers from sticking us right in the middle of their
>stupid HD-DVD/Blu-Ray format war.
There is no war if you make a choice and not let there be one. Both
are going to be around for a long time.
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| Jordan 2006-08-10, 7:54 pm |
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Mattinglyfan wrote:
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> It doesn't have a "bigger" hard drive, it has one. Wireless controller?
I think you're confused... the Premium 360 DOES come with a hard drive
and a wireless controller, or did you mean to compare the core 360 with
the $500 PS3?
- Jordan
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Jason Clinton wrote:
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> Why's it so big? It's huge!
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I wonder if it's really designed to sit on top of the 360 like that?
Now when your 360 overheats it will fry your player as well 
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Tom wrote:
quote:
> Jason Clinton wrote:
> I wonder if it's really designed to sit on top of the 360 like that?
> Now when your 360 overheats it will fry your player as well
Wasn't there a guy frying egg on his laptop?
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| Mattinglyfan 2006-08-11, 7:45 pm |
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"Jordan" <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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quote:
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> Mattinglyfan wrote:
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> I think you're confused... the Premium 360 DOES come with a hard drive
> and a wireless controller, or did you mean to compare the core 360 with
> the $500 PS3?
>
My mistake, I confused posts.
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| Michel Thiffault 2006-08-13, 7:42 pm |
| > There is no war if you make a choice and not let there be one. Both
quote:
> are going to be around for a long time.
Hmmm... I thought the same thing when I bought my Beta VCR decades ago. ;-)
I'll just wait a few years (unless the HD-DVD add-on for the 360 is 200$ or
less)
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