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> http://digitalbattle.com/2006/07/02...cecuts-already/
>
> Ubisoft Boss Wants PS3 Pricecuts. Already.
>
> July 2nd, 2006 by Armin Siljkovic
>
> Ubisoft boss Yves Guillemot openly speaks about Sony's pricing
> strategy, saying (what we're all saying pretty much) - It's too
> expensive and therefore won't sell enough. According to Guillemot,
> the PS3 price must "drop rapidly" in 2007 if they want to compete
> with Microsoft's Xbox360. He dropped the words in an interview with
> Bloomberg, who are estimatng that Sony will sell 40 million PS3's by
> 2008, while Sony is counting on selling 100 million in the PS3 lifespan
> (5-6 years).
>

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> AirRaid Mach 2.5 wrote:
>
>
> break the ps3 down into three seperate componets,
> dvd player, cd player, video game console.
> right now, where can you buy those three componets considering the
> for under $500? grant you, the most expensive would be the blu-ray
> dvd player.

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>
> AirRaid Mach 2.5 wrote:
>
>
> break the ps3 down into three seperate componets,
> dvd player, cd player, video game console.
> right now, where can you buy those three componets considering the for
> under $500?
> grant you, the most expensive would be the blu-ray dvd player.

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>AirRaid Mach 2.5 wrote:
>
>
>break the ps3 down into three seperate componets,
>dvd player, cd player, video game console.
>right now, where can you buy those three componets considering the for
>under $500?
>grant you, the most expensive would be the blu-ray dvd player.

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> it was going to happen sooner or later that there'd be a system-wide
> upgrade needed, it's just the nature of the beast.
> --

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>Funny thing is, I can already play HD games in my xbox with the HD
>cable I got. This whole 'new generation' is just a marketing ploy (at
>least from M$oft) to get you to buy a new console. In fact, not only
>did the life cicle of the xbox was too short, it was almost cut
>entirely when the 360 came. At least in the case of PS3 the HD part is
>indeed a new thing.

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>
>I just hope the price cuts from Sony come soon enough, I know I'm not
>ditching $500 for the 'cheap' version (which is the one I'm getting).
>That'll also give it some time so that when I go an get one, there are
>already some used games to get without paying $60-$70 for them.

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>On 2 Jul 2006 18:26:42 -0700, wolfing1@gmail.com wrote:
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>HD on the original xbox? i know it supported 480p in some games, but
>that's not true HD. unless the xbox did support 720p, which i am
>almost sure it didn't.

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>after all, the 360 upscales original games played using the backwards
>compatibility if the console is in HD mode, surely if the games
>supported 720p already, this wouldn't be necessary?

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> On 2 Jul 2006 18:26:42 -0700, wolfing1@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> HD on the original xbox? i know it supported 480p in some games, but
> that's not true HD. unless the xbox did support 720p, which i am
> almost sure it didn't.
>
> after all, the 360 upscales original games played using the backwards
> compatibility if the console is in HD mode, surely if the games
> supported 720p already, this wouldn't be necessary?

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> On 2 Jul 2006 18:26:42 -0700, wolfing1@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> HD on the original xbox? i know it supported 480p in some games, but
> that's not true HD. unless the xbox did support 720p, which i am
> almost sure it didn't.

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> after all, the 360 upscales original games played using the backwards
> compatibility if the console is in HD mode, surely if the games
> supported 720p already, this wouldn't be necessary?
>
> i doubt i'll get one at launch, i just haven't seen a single thing for
> it that makes me actually want it.
> --
>
> gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
> http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
>

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> HD on the original xbox? i know it supported 480p in some games, but
> that's not true HD. unless the xbox did support 720p, which i am
> almost sure it didn't.

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> break the ps3 down into three seperate componets,
> dvd player, cd player, video game console.
> right now, where can you buy those three componets considering the for
> under $500?
> grant you, the most expensive would be the blu-ray dvd player.

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> http://digitalbattle.com/2006/07/02...cecuts-already/
>
> Ubisoft Boss Wants PS3 Pricecuts. Already.
>
> July 2nd, 2006 by Armin Siljkovic
>
> Ubisoft boss Yves Guillemot openly speaks about Sony's pricing
> strategy, saying (what we're all saying pretty much) - It's too
> expensive and therefore won't sell enough. According to Guillemot,
> the PS3 price must "drop rapidly" in 2007 if they want to compete
> with Microsoft's Xbox360. He dropped the words in an interview with
> Bloomberg, who are estimatng that Sony will sell 40 million PS3's by
> 2008, while Sony is counting on selling 100 million in the PS3 lifespan
> (5-6 years).

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> AirRaid Mach 2.5 wrote:
>
> break the ps3 down into three seperate componets,
> dvd player, cd player, video game console.
> right now, where can you buy those three componets considering the for
> under $500?
> grant you, the most expensive would be the blu-ray dvd player.

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> /me waves..
> I don't want a BLUE RAY PLAYER, I WANT A GAME MACHINE.
>
> Imagine if Microsoft forced everyone to buy a copy of Windows Vista and
> Office with each 360 because they wanted it to be a home PC too. Everyone
> would be calling them the evilist and dumbest company on the planet.
>
> They don't HAVE to force us to buy a blue ray player, they just are
> because they want the royalty on the format for the next whatever years.
>
> It's just a dumb strategy when the machine can't do much more than the 360
> can in the first 2 years.

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>
> "super" <super@bluesky.net> wrote in message
> news:12ah8armbr17579@news.supernews.com...
>
> I don't see why they cannot have an add on like MS are doing with the 360
> and HD dvd.
> I can see why Sony are doing it because they want to get blu-ray into homes
> but I think they have their priorities wrong. First and foremost they
> should be getting an affordable games machine to the masses. If people
> cannot afford it and it sells badly then the developers just will not bother
> to develop games for it.

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>
> Chris F wrote:
> Actually it supported up to 1080i and I played at least one game on
> that resolution with my Xbox. So that's why I say this whole 'HD new
> generation console' is just a marketing ploy from M$oft. There may not
> have been many HD games, but it was the game companies not making them
> because the market wasn't there yet, not the console lacking the
> capability.

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> <wolfing1@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151896712.093063.241740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> The x-box could maybe technically handle that output but it didn't have the
> brute force to chuck that number of pixels around. There may have been a few
> games which supported these resolutions but there's no way games as detailed
> as splinter cell or halo could manage to run smoothly at thos resolutions.

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> AirRaid Mach 2.5 wrote:
>
>
> break the ps3 down into three seperate componets,
> dvd player, cd player, video game console.
> right now, where can you buy those three componets considering the for
> under $500?
> grant you, the most expensive would be the blu-ray dvd player.

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> There may have been a few games which supported these resolutions but
> there's no way games as detailed as splinter cell or halo could manage to
> run smoothly at thos resolutions.
>

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> "Unmutual" <andrewstirling@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3qKdnUnsZfnckDTZnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Soul Calibur II looked and played gloriously in 720p (minus the cropping to
> 4:3).
>
>
> anyway, here's a list of OG Xbox games that ran in HD in case it hasn't
> already been posted:
>
>
> http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum...stom&page=xboxa

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>
> "Unmutual" <andrewstirling@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3qKdnUnsZfnckDTZnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Soul Calibur II looked and played gloriously in 720p (minus the cropping
> to 4:3).
>
>
> anyway, here's a list of OG Xbox games that ran in HD in case it hasn't
> already been posted:
>
>
> http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum...stom&page=xboxa

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> do everything you listed.
>
> Plus, do you really want to buy Ultraviolet in Blu-ray, DO YOU?

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>
>
> Yeah.. really.
>
> BluRay does nothing for gameplay. The PS3 is a game machine and should
> be priced accordingly. You can stick an mp3 player in a spatula and
> charge an extra $50, but Its still just a damn spatula and people
> aren't necessarily going to care about the mp3 function and will be
> more pissed about the $50.
>

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>"Jack (www.villagebbs.com)" wrote:
>now we're into the 'MP3 ready Ford' advert territory! :O)

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>
> "Khee Mao" <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e8boti$f2n$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
>
> Was there actually more detail though? Or were the games just upscaled?
>

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>
> On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:54:09 GMT, Paul Heslop
> <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> have to admit i was watching the price is right earlier, and one of
> the prizes they had was a "state of the art shower/sauna unit with
> built in mp3 player"
>
> my question is, does it come with usb?
>
> ;)
> --

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>
> "Unmutual" <andrewstirling@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3qKdnUnsZfnckDTZnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Soul Calibur II looked and played gloriously in 720p (minus the
> cropping to 4:3).

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> The x-box could maybe technically handle that output but it didn't
> have the brute force to chuck that number of pixels around. There may
> have been a few games which supported these resolutions but there's
> no way games as detailed as splinter cell or halo could manage to run
> smoothly at thos resolutions.

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> break the ps3 down into three seperate componets,
> dvd player, cd player, video game console.
> right now, where can you buy those three componets considering the for
> under $500?
> grant you, the most expensive would be the blu-ray dvd player.

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> /me waves..
> I don't want a BLUE RAY PLAYER, I WANT A GAME MACHINE.

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> Imagine if Microsoft forced everyone to buy a copy of Windows Vista and
> Office with each 360 because they wanted it to be a home PC too. Everyone
> would be calling them the evilist and dumbest company on the planet.

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> They don't HAVE to force us to buy a blue ray player, they just are because
> they want the royalty on the format for the next whatever years.

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> It's just a dumb strategy when the machine can't do much more than the 360
> can in the first 2 years.

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> I don't see why they cannot have an add on like MS are doing with the 360
> and HD dvd.
> I can see why Sony are doing it because they want to get blu-ray into homes
> but I think they have their priorities wrong. First and foremost they
> should be getting an affordable games machine to the masses. If people
> cannot afford it and it sells badly then the developers just will not bother
> to develop games for it.

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> Keep in mind that unless somebody's got an HDTV, the blu-ray add on is
> pretty worthless (while games with better gameplay/deeper worlds like
> Oblivion can still be enjoyed without HDTV). HDTV's are still in the
> minority right now.

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> And even then, there's no guarantee that the format will survive - and
> then what? Sony will be stuck supporting an expensive - and proprietary -
> piece of hardware while the price on the 360 can continue to spiral
> downwards.
>
> It wouldn't be nearly so bad if Blu-Ray was already the standard - then
> this ploy of Sony's makes a lot of sense. But as it stands, Sony's
> risking the PS3 on the belief that Blu-Ray will be the standard.

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> You are correct in that Sony is hoping to use the PS3's popularity to pull
> (push? propel?) Blu-Ray into the home. After all, if you've already got a
> Blu-Ray player, wouldn't you be a be a little curious about what a Blu-Ray
> movie would look like?

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> This might have been a good idea had it not been for HD-DVD. Now with two
> competing formats, most people will hesitate as no one wants to go through
> the VHS/Betamax thing again.

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> Really, the PS3 seems to be a year too early. By Summer/Fall 2007, prices
> will have probably fallen to the $300-400 mark which is a lot more
> reasonable for launching a console.

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> If Sony is able to sell at least tens of millions of PS3s in the next 5
> years, there's a good chance Blu-Ray will be the standard.

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> You know Sony Pictures will always support Blu-Ray instead of HD-DVD at
> a minimum.

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> What's HD-DVD going to be doing in the meantime? Just sitting there? I
> think not.

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>They're not going to sell in the millions, especially say by May of
>2007, which is when the PS3 will have sold at least 6 million units.

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>AirRaid Mach 2.5 wrote:
>
>
>break the ps3 down into three seperate componets,
>dvd player, cd player, video game console.
>right now, where can you buy those three componets considering the for
>under $500?
>grant you, the most expensive would be the blu-ray dvd player.

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> In article <12aqh5k52ij5fd6@corp.supernews.com>,
> Doug Jacobs <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote:
>
>
> They're not going to sell in the millions, especially say by May of
> 2007, which is when the PS3 will have sold at least 6 million units.