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> Responding to the numerous conspiracy theories surrounding the lack of
> compatibility of Criterion's titles on Xbox, Ward insisted it has
> absolutely nothing to do with publishers or developers.
>
> "We'd absolutely love it if our Burnout games worked on 360," said
> Ward, "but it's down to what Microsoft wants to do. It controls and
> decides what games its emulator works with. I've actually asked them
> four times myself for them to make it happen, but it's really not up
> to us.

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>Oh dear.
>Everyone knows by now that if it's not on the list, it wont work.
>This is a per-game thing, and games that work, just work.
>Eventually more games will come to the 360, through the emulator, but
>we should be greatful that we've even got that.
>
>At the end of the day, just use your old XBOX to play the fricking
>games!

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> On 23 Feb 2006 15:08:10 -0800, "Swam Mollen"
> <bigboobs_linda@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> You are assuming that every has an original Xbox.

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> Alastair Foster wrote:
>
> Yea - I normally wouldn't have a problem with this, but it stinks that
> Microsoft is not selling new Xbox consoles without the bundle. I'm not
> sure if that's good for business because more people will buy the
> higher-priced bundle, or bad for business because people will turn to
> used systems...
>

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> If someone waited until the 360 came out to get an Xbox and they went
> with the 360 then they obviously aren't interested in playing Xbox
> titles. If they were they would have bought the machine that played
> them and they would have done it ages ago.
>
> - Jordan
>

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>
> That would be why I still have my Xbox.
>
> - Jordan
>

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> The "bundling" is a marketing ploy by the individual stores. Even Best Buy
> has backed down from the requirement. It is not a Microsoft deal.

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> Chris H. wrote:
>
> What I meant was the Forza Motorsport "bundle" for $180. Before the
> 360, was the core console priced lower without Forza? I have not been
> able to find any new consoles without that game.
>
>

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> Some games were on the list, but still not playable - Half life 2 had
> some bugs and isn't playable, and Mortal Kombat Decaption was on the
> first list, but then removed when they found that it would boot up ok,
> but was not playable.

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>

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> Then I suggest you change where you're looking as a consumer. There are
> other retailer locations run by different companies, and you certainly can
> purchase an Xbox 360 without any software bundled with it. Forza
> Motorsport is an Xbox (not Xbox 360) original game, and came out after
> Xbox had been on the market quite a while.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> <John.P.McDevitt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1140754986.119992.245890@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>

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>
>"croaker68" <croaker68@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1140754612.321061.222040@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>Puzzled. What are the bugs on HL2 on the 360? I got it for my old XB not
>long before I got my 360 and as I didn't get time to play very far I decided
>to play through on the 360. I am about 3/4 of the way through and am finding
>it totally playable.
>
>

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> He's talking about the x-box! Not the 360.

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> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:37:52 -0000, "Tim Bird"
> <tim.bird@nospamprettypleasehebron.co.uk> wrote:
>
> theres supposed to be a load of clipping bugs, etc, where you can just
> walk straight through some bits of scenery and fall into nothingness
> then die. regularly.

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>
> Hasn't happened to me once.
>
>
>

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> Air Raid wrote:
>
>
> They would not love it if Burnout worked on the 360 because that would
> seriously affect their sales of Burnout Revenge 360.
>
>

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> If someone waited until the 360 came out to get an Xbox and they went
> with the 360 then they obviously aren't interested in playing Xbox
> titles. If they were they would have bought the machine that played
> them and they would have done it ages ago.
>
> - Jordan
>

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> the point still stands though, as nice as BC is, its not one of the
> main features of the console.
>
> 99% of people will buy a 360 to play 360 games, i know i did.
>

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>"Chris F" <chris@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
>news:21qsv19o3i3lv1jjs4u5f6fe44mufgop5u@4ax.com...
>
>I think it's safe to say that being able to play PS1 games, is what made the
>PS2 so popular. All the folk I know that bought one, did so in order to play
>either their old games, or ones that their friends had. I'm not saying that
>it was the only reason that it did so well, but it certainly helped. It's
>also going to be one of the main selling points for the PS3.
>

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>Other than that, I'll certainly be playing mostly 360 games on my 360. There
>are a few older titles that I'd love to see working on the it though.
>
> Nod

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>
>
> It seems to me that Xbox 360 is NOT really backwards compatible with
> Xbox games. Microsoft has provided shoddy emulation of SOME Xbox games
> on Xbox 360. that does not make Xbox360 a B.C. console. I know
> that is not something new.

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> Now maybe I'm not keeping my ear to the ground, but I've not heard of
> *any* new BC updates since before Christmas, which is very poor.

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>On 2006-02-23 23:00:44 +0000, "Air Raid" <AirRaidJet@gmail.com> said:
>
>
>What gets me is the lack of MS progress with compatability. When I
>bought my 360 MS were spouting 'Oh yeah, we're going to roll out new
>patches every month with more great new backwards compatabile games
>blah blah'.
>
>Now maybe I'm not keeping my ear to the ground, but I've not heard of
>*any* new BC updates since before Christmas, which is very poor.

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>
> It seems to me that Xbox 360 is NOT really backwards compatible with
> Xbox games

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> it was the only reason that it did so well, but it certainly helped. It's
> also going to be one of the main selling points for the PS3.
>

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>In article <Y7ILf.64395$YJ4.1075@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>Nod@DEATHBADGER.co.uk says...
>You miss the point that the PS2 games will be emulated on the PS3 as
>well. Just because Sony have said all the PS2 titles will be BC on the
>PS3 doesn't mean it will be so. I believe the PS2 couldn't play certain
>PS1 games although only very few.
>

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>
> But PS2 had a whole PS1 inside it. As far as i know it wasnt emulation
> at all. I assume the PS3 does the same thing.
>
>

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> maybe so, but only right at the beginning of its lifetime, due to the
> utter shitness of the PS2 launch titles
>

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>On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:13:10 -0000, The Gray One
><snm_ukTROUSERS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>But PS2 had a whole PS1 inside it. As far as i know it wasnt emulation
>at all. I assume the PS3 does the same thing.

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> Am I wrong in assuming that the original console was less than $180
> before the 360 came out?

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> It's also worth noting that with the PS3 being put back due to technical
> issues and no developers having an actual PS3 to test on yet, Sony may
> well suffer similar BC issues. We also know Sony haven't always
> delivered what is promised.

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> i doubt it, its a different architecture completely, where i think the
> PS1 and PS2 shared a few components.

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> but it wasn't a PS1 in there too, otherwise every PS1 game would work
> 100%, and not all of them do.

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> Well I didn't. I had a GameCube. I'm not made of money and don't own 100's
> of games. I have a select few on every console that I owed, that I really
> liked and still dust off now and again. I wasn't going to buy an Xbox just
> to play Halo and Far Cry.
>
> Other than that, I'm glad that The Thing works on my 360 as that's on my
> list of games I do like. I would like to play Black and Far Cry Instincts
> though. And I'll get Halo from the bargain bin when I next get paid.
>
> Nod

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>
> Nod wrote:
>
> So let me get this straight. You, Rick Mogstad and Hairboy had zero
> interest in the original Xbox because it didn't offer any vaue to you,
> yet it was only $150 and offered over 800 games.
>
> But now you all bought an X360 which costs over twice as much ($400)
> and has 1/32th of the games (~30), which by all accounts most of those
> upcoming games will be sequels and followups to original Xbox
> franchises, yet you guys are bitching about the lack of BC for older
> Xbox games?
>
> There is something wrong with this picture.
>

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> The part with the boat is supposed to be unplayable.

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