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Ken Kutaragi disappoints with no new PS3 info at ISSCC
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| Radeon 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
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Thanks For Nothing, Ken
Feb 6 2006 1:29PM
The premise seemed so tantalizing; Ken Kutaragi, the 'Father of the
PlayStation' and President and CEO of Sony's Computer Entertainment
division, was giving an ISSCC keynote on 'The Future of Computing for
Real-Time Entertainment'. Coming hot on the heels of the PlayStation
3's baffling no-show at CES, and just a few months ahead of E3 where I
expect production schedules for the PS3 will be announced, I figured
that Ken would give us something we didn't already know about the
console....and maybe show us some real-life running hardware, to boot
(pun intended). So I rolled out of bed at 4AM to catch a 5:30AM
Amtrak-plus-BART combo to San Francisco....
.....and was disappointed once again. I'll summarize Ken's
thinly-disguised Sony commercial in four succinct bullets:
* The PlayStation CPU was really big and expensive when we first
went into production, but thanks to Moore's Law and around a decade's
worth of lithography shrinks, we made it really small and cheap.
* The PlayStation 2 two-chip set was really big and expensive when
we first went into production, but thanks to Moore's Law and around a
five year's worth of lithography shrinks so far, we've made them so
small and cheap that we were able to combine them onto a single chip
(Brian's comment: at the cost of imperfect backwards-compatibility).
* The PlayStation Portable CPU is really big and expensive in its
first incarnation, but (nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean, know
what I mean?) I bet you can guess what we plan to do thanks to Moore's
Law and a few years' worth of lithography shrinks.
* I wasn't allowed to show you a Cell die shot, but here's some
simulated screenshots of the incredible things it's going to
do.....someday....really....trust me....
First there was Stringer's disastrous keynote at CES. Now this. Right
on top of the scathing revelations about platform and development tools
immaturity published by a promptly-fired Sony employee in the game
development team. Granted, I'm no marketing wizard (although I used to
be, at least in my own mind), I'm just a simple senior technical
editor. Maybe I'm missing the brilliance behind Sony's perpetual
smoke-and-mirrors stalling. But I've lost any excitement I might have
previously had about Sony's next-generation console (and Blu-ray Trojan
Horse). The PS3 feels like the latest in Sony's repeated sequence of
promise-much, deliver-little products. And, given what a high
percentage of corporate revenue and profit the PlayStation franchise
represents, if I'm right then I'm glad I'm not a Sony investor. Or a
customer. Know what I mean, know what I mean?
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http://www.edn.com/blog/400000040/post/540002654.html
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| MS#1Fanboy-JoJo 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
| In article <1139267647.928602.223480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Radeon350@yahoo.com says...
quote:
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>Thanks For Nothing, Ken
>
>Feb 6 2006 1:29PM
>
>The premise seemed so tantalizing; Ken Kutaragi, the 'Father of the
>PlayStation' and President and CEO of Sony's Computer Entertainment
>division, was giving an ISSCC keynote on 'The Future of Computing for
>Real-Time Entertainment'. Coming hot on the heels of the PlayStation
>3's baffling no-show at CES, and just a few months ahead of E3 where I
>expect production schedules for the PS3 will be announced, I figured
>that Ken would give us something we didn't already know about the
>console....and maybe show us some real-life running hardware, to boot
>(pun intended). So I rolled out of bed at 4AM to catch a 5:30AM
>Amtrak-plus-BART combo to San Francisco....
>
>....and was disappointed once again. I'll summarize Ken's
>thinly-disguised Sony commercial in four succinct bullets:
>
> * The PlayStation CPU was really big and expensive when we first
>went into production, but thanks to Moore's Law and around a decade's
>worth of lithography shrinks, we made it really small and cheap.
> * The PlayStation 2 two-chip set was really big and expensive when
>we first went into production, but thanks to Moore's Law and around a
>five year's worth of lithography shrinks so far, we've made them so
>small and cheap that we were able to combine them onto a single chip
>(Brian's comment: at the cost of imperfect backwards-compatibility).
> * The PlayStation Portable CPU is really big and expensive in its
>first incarnation, but (nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean, know
>what I mean?) I bet you can guess what we plan to do thanks to Moore's
>Law and a few years' worth of lithography shrinks.
> * I wasn't allowed to show you a Cell die shot, but here's some
>simulated screenshots of the incredible things it's going to
>do.....someday....really....trust me....
>
>First there was Stringer's disastrous keynote at CES. Now this. Right
>on top of the scathing revelations about platform and development tools
>immaturity published by a promptly-fired Sony employee in the game
>development team. Granted, I'm no marketing wizard (although I used to
>be, at least in my own mind), I'm just a simple senior technical
>editor. Maybe I'm missing the brilliance behind Sony's perpetual
>smoke-and-mirrors stalling. But I've lost any excitement I might have
>previously had about Sony's next-generation console (and Blu-ray Trojan
>Horse). The PS3 feels like the latest in Sony's repeated sequence of
>promise-much, deliver-little products. And, given what a high
>percentage of corporate revenue and profit the PlayStation franchise
>represents, if I'm right then I'm glad I'm not a Sony investor. Or a
>customer. Know what I mean, know what I mean?
>____________________________________________________________________________
>
>http://www.edn.com/blog/400000040/post/540002654.html
>
I'm starting to think this thing will be a fall release in Japan and a March
2007 release here. Maybe a fall worldwide release? Lets hope so.
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| Brenden D. Chase 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
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"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
news:yQRFf.37872$bF.21076@dukeread07...
quote:
> In article <1139267647.928602.223480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> Radeon350@yahoo.com says...
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> I'm starting to think this thing will be a fall release in Japan and a
> March
> 2007 release here. Maybe a fall worldwide release? Lets hope so.
>
Definitely not a 2007 release, that i hope Sony wouldnt be stupid enought to
do. By then (missing another holiday season) MS would have restocked shelves
completely, and PS3 would be DOA in 2007.
If they dont get it out to Japan in spring 2006, then i'll buy into that
worldwide release in the fall.
or maybe they'll follow in MS footsteps and release worldwide in phases, and
end up with no stock on the shelves until 2007. who knows.
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| MS#1Fanboy-JoJo 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
| In article <%1SFf.37876$bF.27662@dukeread07>,
brenden.chaseREMOVE@THISgmail.com says...
quote:
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>"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:yQRFf.37872$bF.21076@dukeread07...
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>Definitely not a 2007 release, that i hope Sony wouldnt be stupid enought to
>do. By then (missing another holiday season) MS would have restocked shelves
>completely, and PS3 would be DOA in 2007.
>
>If they dont get it out to Japan in spring 2006, then i'll buy into that
>worldwide release in the fall.
>
>or maybe they'll follow in MS footsteps and release worldwide in phases, and
>end up with no stock on the shelves until 2007. who knows.
>
>
Thats what I was thinking. They will probably follow in Microsofts footsteps
just to get the thing out the door. Time to go and pre-buy this baby. I'm
starting to get worried on price with all the functions they are saying it
will come with.
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| David Parkes 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
| A world wide release of the PS3. I have no Idea how sony would cope with
that. I mean the demand for the 360 was high but I'm sure the demand for the
PS3 would be even higher. (Not that Im a fan of Sony). In the UK it is still
quite difficult to get hold of the 360, and it was release nearly four
months ago. I would envizage that if they were to release the PS3 in spring
by rolling it out world wide then the demand would be so high that you can
forget about getting one for at lease 6 months.
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| Tim Bird 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
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"David Parkes" <wibble@wobble.com> wrote in message
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quote:
>A world wide release of the PS3. I have no Idea how sony would cope with
>that. I mean the demand for the 360 was high but I'm sure the demand for
>the PS3 would be even higher. (Not that Im a fan of Sony). In the UK it is
>still quite difficult to get hold of the 360, and it was release nearly
>four months ago.
Actually only just over 2 months - Release was December 2nd in the UK -
That's 2 months and 5 days. Even if you take the 22nd November US date then
it's still way off 4 months.
Pedants of the world unite!
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| David Parkes 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
| Good point Tim. I was sitting at work trying to remember when it was release
and for some reason I found October kept coming into my head. Must be
because I'm lookin forward to this years ocktober fest UMMM Beer
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| Tim Bird 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
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"David Parkes" <wibble@wobble.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> Good point Tim. I was sitting at work trying to remember when it was
> release and for some reason I found October kept coming into my head. Must
> be because I'm lookin forward to this years ocktober fest UMMM Beer
Well, if you're going to be distracted that's a fine choice.
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| David Parkes 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
| Thanks For Being Understanding Tim, lol.
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| Brenden D. Chase 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
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"David Parkes" <wibble@wobble.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks For Being Understanding Tim, lol.
>
TFBUT
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| jordanlund@gmail.com 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
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MS#1Fanboy-JoJo wrote:
quote:
> I'm starting to think this thing will be a fall release in Japan and a March
> 2007 release here. Maybe a fall worldwide release? Lets hope so.
After the 360 shortages I doubt anyone is going to have the balls to
attempt a global release for a long, long time.
- Jordan
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| Andrew Ryan Chang 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
| <jordanlund@gmail.com> wrote:
quote:
>MS#1Fanboy-JoJo wrote:
>
>After the 360 shortages I doubt anyone is going to have the balls to
>attempt a global release for a long, long time.
Why? What are annoyed early adopters going to do if the PS3 is
late? They already made the decision to buy one at or near launch, and I
don't see shortages as something that's going to stop most of them.
--
"AAA is on the record against virtually every proposal for cutting
automobile pollution."
[http://www.nrdc.org/amicus/01win/aaa/aaa.asp]
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| MS#1Fanboy-JoJo 2006-02-25, 10:30 pm |
| In article <1139358945.229916.41750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
jordanlund@gmail.com says...
quote:
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>MS#1Fanboy-JoJo wrote:
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March[vbcol=seagreen]
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>After the 360 shortages I doubt anyone is going to have the balls to
>attempt a global release for a long, long time.
>
>- Jordan
>
Just watch... I can see Sony doing it. Both MS and Sony have done screw ups
that previous console makers have done. They both fragmented their user bases
with add on hard drives.
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