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AirRaid

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

~70 MB standard definition trailer
http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3152_en.html

~200 MB 720p HD trailer
http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3153_en.html


looks fantastic. best realtime explosions I've *ever* seen in
game--probably only possible because of the incredibly high-bandwidth
EDRAM in the '360 which a certain other console lacks.


Lost Planet has instantly become my most-wanted '360 game.

now I understand why it's being called "the Japanese Halo". I'll bet
Lost Planet ends up being a better game than Halo 3.

Michael Cargill

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

"AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159725744.872571.36210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
quote:

>
> looks fantastic. best realtime explosions I've *ever* seen in
> game--probably only possible because of the incredibly high-bandwidth
> EDRAM in the '360 which a certain other console lacks.


Yes, none of the other hardware of the Xbox 360 has anything to do with it.
And there would be no other way of ever being able to do those same
explosions on any other hardware.
quote:

> Lost Planet has instantly become my most-wanted '360 game.
>
> now I understand why it's being called "the Japanese Halo". I'll bet
> Lost Planet ends up being a better game than Halo 3.


Not if the demo from a few months back is anything to go by. Those energy
crystal thingies ruined it for me.


Schrodinger

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm


"AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159725744.872571.36210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
quote:

> ~70 MB standard definition trailer
> http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3152_en.html
>
> ~200 MB 720p HD trailer
> http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3153_en.html
>
>
> looks fantastic. best realtime explosions I've *ever* seen in
> game--probably only possible because of the incredibly high-bandwidth
> EDRAM in the '360 which a certain other console lacks.
>
>
> Lost Planet has instantly become my most-wanted '360 game.
>
> now I understand why it's being called "the Japanese Halo". I'll bet
> Lost Planet ends up being a better game than Halo 3.
>


As the Halo series sucks big donkey balls, this would hardly be surprising.


Memnoch

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

On 1 Oct 2006 11:02:24 -0700, "AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote:
quote:

>~70 MB standard definition trailer
>http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3152_en.html
>
>~200 MB 720p HD trailer
>http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3153_en.html
>
>
>looks fantastic. best realtime explosions I've *ever* seen in
>game--probably only possible because of the incredibly high-bandwidth
>EDRAM in the '360 which a certain other console lacks.
>
>
>Lost Planet has instantly become my most-wanted '360 game.
>
>now I understand why it's being called "the Japanese Halo". I'll bet
>Lost Planet ends up being a better game than Halo 3.


Yet another third person console game. If they had made it an FPS then maybe.
Jonah Falcon

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm


"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:bSTTg.15850$PP1.9919@fe04.news.easynews.com...
quote:

>
> "AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159725744.872571.36210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> As the Halo series sucks big donkey balls, this would hardly be
> surprising.


What's Halo and Halo 2's GameRankings score?

Why is Peter Jackson hot to not only produce a Halo movie but another Halo
game?

Why did Halo 2 earn $125M in preorders on the first day alone?


Stygian

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm



AirRaid wrote:
quote:

> ~70 MB standard definition trailer
> http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3152_en.html
>
> ~200 MB 720p HD trailer
> http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3153_en.html
>
>
> looks fantastic. best realtime explosions I've *ever* seen in
> game--probably only possible because of the incredibly high-bandwidth
> EDRAM in the '360 which a certain other console lacks.
>
>
> Lost Planet has instantly become my most-wanted '360 game.
>
> now I understand why it's being called "the Japanese Halo". I'll bet
> Lost Planet ends up being a better game than Halo 3.



The only way this post is even remotely related to pc gaming is
that Halo made its way to the pc eventually. And
that is quite a stretch.

Jonah Falcon

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

GIANT CRABS! WOO HOO!

"AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159725744.872571.36210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
quote:

> ~70 MB standard definition trailer
> http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3152_en.html
>
> ~200 MB 720p HD trailer
> http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3153_en.html
>
>
> looks fantastic. best realtime explosions I've *ever* seen in
> game--probably only possible because of the incredibly high-bandwidth
> EDRAM in the '360 which a certain other console lacks.
>
>
> Lost Planet has instantly become my most-wanted '360 game.
>
> now I understand why it's being called "the Japanese Halo". I'll bet
> Lost Planet ends up being a better game than Halo 3.
>



Bikini Whacks

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

In article <kWUTg.8629$UG4.3318@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
jonahnynla@mindspring.com says...
quote:

> GIANT CRABS! WOO HOO!
>

Enough with the personal problems.
John

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

In article <4oaecuFdnsdeU1@individual.net>, Michael Cargill
<fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
quote:

> "AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159725744.872571.36210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Yes, none of the other hardware of the Xbox 360 has anything to do with it.
> And there would be no other way of ever being able to do those same
> explosions on any other hardware.
>
>
> Not if the demo from a few months back is anything to go by. Those energy
> crystal thingies ruined it for me.
>
>

Likewise, it makes it sound like Pac-man ;)
Thinking about it they'll either make or break the game. iirc there was
a screenie showing some players huddled around a heater whilst their
comrades carried on fighting. Maybe there'll be portable heaters that
you can recharge from? It's got potential to make the game more
tactically interesting re. multiplayer.
They'd better give you an option to play games without it though!
Schrodinger

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm


"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:foUTg.8612$UG4.7203@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
quote:

>
> "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:bSTTg.15850$PP1.9919@fe04.news.easynews.com...
>
> What's Halo and Halo 2's GameRankings score?
>
> Why is Peter Jackson hot to not only produce a Halo movie but another Halo
> game?
>
> Why did Halo 2 earn $125M in preorders on the first day alone?
>


Because the Halo series sucks big donkey balls.

Just because lots of people like it, doesn't mean it's any good.

Titanic the film anyone?


Jim Vieira

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:6PWTg.89544$Pi2.14463@fe08.news.easynews.com...
quote:

> Because the Halo series sucks big donkey balls.
>
> Just because lots of people like it, doesn't mean it's any good.
>
> Titanic the film anyone?


Or World Of Warcrap.


Devala Rees

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

On 10/1/06 4:55 PM, in article 6PWTg.89544$Pi2.14463@fe08.news.easynews.com,
"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:
quote:

>
> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:foUTg.8612$UG4.7203@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> Because the Halo series sucks big donkey balls.
>
> Just because lots of people like it, doesn't mean it's any good.
>
> Titanic the film anyone?
>
>


Well, the thing with lots of people liking it means that the general
consensus this that it is very good, and you, not liking it, are a minority,
not the sole authority in the world. Ditto with Titanic; most people,
including me, thought it was spectacular. You're entitled to your opinion,
but it's not the only opinion that matters.

Zackman

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

AirRaid <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> spake thusly:
quote:

> now I understand why it's being called "the Japanese Halo". I'll bet
> Lost Planet ends up being a better game than Halo 3.


I wouldn't go that far. It does look incredibly hot though, both single and
multiplayer.

Love the mech that converts to a snowmobile, lol.

-Z-


Jim Vieira

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

"Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4oatqoFdpeggU1@individual.net...
quote:

> Not in denial, people who don't wish to see a 'man'/creature sent down
> on the basis of stories that keep changing from people who want payoffs
> and weak evidence at best. Innocent until proven guilty, and there was
> nothing in that case concrete enough to send him down for those charges.


Ya, and OJ didn't kill his wife either.


USAF LM

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

Jim Vieira wrote:
quote:

> "Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4oatqoFdpeggU1@individual.net...
>
> Ya, and OJ didn't kill his wife either.
>
>


And we didn't go to the moon either.

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~akapadia/moon.html

Swi
Hank the Rapper

2006-10-01, 7:47 pm

Schrodinger wrote:
quote:

> Just because lots of people like it, doesn't mean I have to.


Fixed your post so you don't sound like an arrogant jerk.


Devala Rees

2006-10-01, 11:43 pm

On 10/1/06 5:06 PM, in article JZWTg.5356$3E2.2579@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com,
"Jim Vieira" <WhiplashrAT@wiDOT.rrDOT.com> wrote:
quote:

> "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:6PWTg.89544$Pi2.14463@fe08.news.easynews.com...
>
> Or World Of Warcrap.
>
>


Once again, World of Warcraft is awesome in most people's opinion. If you
don't think so, that doesn't make most people wrong.

Schrodinger

2006-10-01, 11:43 pm


"Hank the Rapper" <xflopgoon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6PydnR47Rpyg0L3YnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
quote:

> Schrodinger wrote:
>
>
> Fixed your post so you don't sound like an arrogant jerk.
>


Thanks. The things is, though, I am by definition quite a bit more
intelligent than the majority of the population. By "quite a bit", I mean a
lot.

I would suspect that a significant proportion of the people who post to this
group would fall into the same category.

Either way, I am clever and I think Halo sucks.

I can see why stupid people would think it is a good series of games too.
Forgive me for stating facts, Hank, but sometimes - so they say - the truth
hurts.

It all makes sense in the end, Hank.


Jonah Falcon

2006-10-01, 11:43 pm


"Zackman" <zackman@SPAMISEVILearthling.net> wrote in message
news:L9KdnR1jlr043r3YnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
quote:

> AirRaid <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> spake thusly:
>
>
> I wouldn't go that far. It does look incredibly hot though, both single
> and multiplayer.
>
> Love the mech that converts to a snowmobile, lol.


What about the GIANT CRABS? :D


Jim Vieira

2006-10-01, 11:43 pm

"Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
news:C145C491.1F30%darkeagle@lisco.com...
quote:

> On 10/1/06 5:06 PM, in article JZWTg.5356$3E2.2579@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com,
> "Jim Vieira" <WhiplashrAT@wiDOT.rrDOT.com> wrote:
>
>
> Once again, World of Warcraft is awesome in most people's opinion. If you
> don't think so, that doesn't make most people wrong.


That doesn't make them right either. Gullible people falling for the
latest,
trendy gadget/fad FTW!


Devala Rees

2006-10-01, 11:43 pm

On 10/1/06 9:02 PM, in article %q_Tg.27012$QT.2514@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com,
"Jim Vieira" <WhiplashrAT@wiDOT.rrDOT.com> wrote:
quote:

> "Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
> news:C145C491.1F30%darkeagle@lisco.com...
>
> That doesn't make them right either. Gullible people falling for the
> latest,
> trendy gadget/fad FTW!
>
>


Opinions don't work in terms of right and wrong. It's not right or wrong to
like or dislike something. Go ahead and hate it, but liking it does not mean
that you're stupid.

FatHippy

2006-10-02, 5:48 am

In message <lf20i29sqmbpaf4nhnmj14de74avvn3icl@4ax.com>, Memnoch
<memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> writes
quote:

>On 1 Oct 2006 11:02:24 -0700, "AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yet another third person console game. If they had made it an FPS then maybe.


Yes, because we need some more FPS' as the gaming world does not have
nearly enough of them.
--
FatHippy
'Poking death in the face with a big stick and then running away'
(To reply by e-mail, please replace {$spamtrap$} with fathippy)
Name: Fats Town: Bauhaus
Shawk

2006-10-02, 5:48 am

FatHippy wrote:
quote:

> In message <lf20i29sqmbpaf4nhnmj14de74avvn3icl@4ax.com>, Memnoch
> <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> writes
>
> Yes, because we need some more FPS' as the gaming world does not have
> nearly enough of them.


Not nearly enough good one's yes...
Li'l Slugger

2006-10-02, 5:48 am


"Michael Cargill" <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote in message
news:4oaecuFdnsdeU1@individual.net...
quote:

> "AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159725744.872571.36210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Yes, none of the other hardware of the Xbox 360 has anything to do with

it.
quote:

> And there would be no other way of ever being able to do those same
> explosions on any other hardware.
>
>
> Not if the demo from a few months back is anything to go by. Those energy
> crystal thingies ruined it for me.


Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah "Halo killer" blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah


Zomoniac

2006-10-02, 5:48 am

On 2006-10-02 01:16:29 +0100, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> said:
quote:

>
> "Hank the Rapper" <xflopgoon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6PydnR47Rpyg0L3YnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> Thanks. The things is, though, I am by definition quite a bit more
> intelligent than the majority of the population. By "quite a bit", I
> mean a lot.
>
> I would suspect that a significant proportion of the people who post to
> this group would fall into the same category.
>
> Either way, I am clever and I think Halo sucks.
>
> I can see why stupid people would think it is a good series of games
> too. Forgive me for stating facts, Hank, but sometimes - so they say -
> the truth hurts.
>
> It all makes sense in the end, Hank.


Can you elaborate? Which of the following statements do you disagree with?

It had great graphics for its time.

It had great sound for its time.

It had great controls for a console FPS for its time.

It had a great story by the standards of most games.

It had great AI when played on higher difficulties.

It had a great multiplayer component.


Yes, the levels got repetitive, but I wouldn't mind knowing where you
felt the game failed, other than the repeating scenery.

--
Zo

Tom

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm


"AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159725744.872571.36210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
quote:

> ~70 MB standard definition trailer
> http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3152_en.html
>
> ~200 MB 720p HD trailer
> http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3153_en.html
>
>
> looks fantastic. best realtime explosions I've *ever* seen in
> game--probably only possible because of the incredibly high-bandwidth
> EDRAM in the '360 which a certain other console lacks.
>
>
> Lost Planet has instantly become my most-wanted '360 game.


Maybe for your impression from that video, but for me, not from playing the
demo. The thing I disliked most was; the clumsy mode of when aiming one's
weapon, it was difficult and made the fighting confusing, especially when
the enemy doesn't seem to have that difficulty. I also didn't see the
graphics being better that any other game I've played to date, and the demo
wasn't even close to the graphics of Oblivion nor GRAW.
quote:

>
> now I understand why it's being called "the Japanese Halo". I'll bet
> Lost Planet ends up being a better game than Halo 3.
>


LOL, place your bet and see. I personally think that even (graphically and
from scenery) Halo and Halo2 still looks better than LP. So I don't think H3
will lack to LP graphically. If explosions are what impress you as you say
here, then go for it, but I think the whole game should be good grapically,
and I wasn't impressed from the demo.



Shawk

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm

Zomoniac wrote:
quote:

> On 2006-10-02 01:16:29 +0100, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> said:
>
>
> Can you elaborate? Which of the following statements do you disagree with?
>
> It had great graphics for its time.
>
> It had great sound for its time.
>
> It had great controls for a console FPS for its time.
>
> It had a great story by the standards of most games.
>
> It had great AI when played on higher difficulties.
>
> It had a great multiplayer component.
>
>
> Yes, the levels got repetitive, but I wouldn't mind knowing where you
> felt the game failed, other than the repeating scenery.
>


Personally I just hated the repetitive scenery in places (library etc)
and when I found I had to go through parts of it all over again I nearly
gave up playing. Otherwise it was a fairly good shooter. Unlike many
others it's not one I wanted to play through again though.
booty bandit

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm


"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:OyI8mtg5GHA.756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
quote:

>
> "AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159725744.872571.36210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Maybe for your impression from that video, but for me, not from playing
> the demo. The thing I disliked most was; the clumsy mode of when aiming
> one's weapon, it was difficult and made the fighting confusing, especially
> when the enemy doesn't seem to have that difficulty. I also didn't see the
> graphics being better that any other game I've played to date, and the
> demo wasn't even close to the graphics of Oblivion nor GRAW.
>
>
> LOL, place your bet and see. I personally think that even (graphically and
> from scenery) Halo and Halo2 still looks better than LP. So I don't think
> H3 will lack to LP graphically. If explosions are what impress you as you
> say here, then go for it, but I think the whole game should be good
> grapically, and I wasn't impressed from the demo.


I agree.
LP didn't do a thing for me and I didn't care for the control or game design
as a whole.
Halo 3 will probably make this game look dated graphically. I have a
feeling it's going to be a jaw dropper which Lost Planet is not.


Schrodinger

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm


"Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4oc5bqFdrks1U1@individual.net...
quote:

> On 2006-10-02 01:16:29 +0100, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> said:
>
>
> Can you elaborate? Which of the following statements do you disagree with?
>
> It had great graphics for its time.
>
> It had great sound for its time.
>
> It had great controls for a console FPS for its time.
>
> It had a great story by the standards of most games.
>
> It had great AI when played on higher difficulties.
>
> It had a great multiplayer component.
>


I disagree with all of them, except the console bit, as I was talking about
the PC version. I neither know nor care about the console version.
quote:

> Yes, the levels got repetitive, but I wouldn't mind knowing where you felt
> the game failed, other than the repeating scenery.
>
> --
> Zo
>



Devala Rees

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm

On 10/2/06 3:00 PM, in article
CdeUg.288985$uW1.154875@fe05.news.easynews.com, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com>
wrote:
quote:

>
> "Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4oc5bqFdrks1U1@individual.net...
>
> I disagree with all of them, except the console bit, as I was talking about
> the PC version. I neither know nor care about the console version.
>


Well there you go. He was talking purely about the console version. The PC
version has much worse graphics, sound, and controls, and it lacks a key
multiplayer component.

Tom

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm


"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:CdeUg.288985$uW1.154875@fe05.news.easynews.com...
quote:

>
> "Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4oc5bqFdrks1U1@individual.net...
>
> I disagree with all of them, except the console bit, as I was talking
> about the PC version. I neither know nor care about the console version.


Well, considering this is an "XBOX" newsgroup, I would think you have the
logic not to comment on the PC version, especially since "PC" wasn't even
mentioned. Funny though, that you don't know nor care anything about console
gaming (as you so suggest), yet provide comment in an XBOX (which is a
console gaming device) newsgroup.


John Lewis

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm

On 1 Oct 2006 11:02:24 -0700, "AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote:
quote:

>~70 MB standard definition trailer
>http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3152_en.html
>
>~200 MB 720p HD trailer
>http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_3153_en.html
>
>
>looks fantastic. best realtime explosions I've *ever* seen in
>game--probably only possible because of the incredibly high-bandwidth
>EDRAM in the '360 which a certain other console lacks.
>


ATi ( er, AMD) troll alert !!!

John Lewis


Jim Vieira

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm

"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:Oi1k8cm5GHA.3836@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
quote:

> Well, considering this is an "XBOX" newsgroup, I would think you have the
> logic not to comment on the PC version, especially since "PC" wasn't even
> mentioned. Funny though, that you don't know nor care anything about

console
quote:

> gaming (as you so suggest), yet provide comment in an XBOX (which is a
> console gaming device) newsgroup.


Psst, check the newsgroup listing on this thread. It's also going to a PC
action games group. That's where he probably saw it, and why he felt
it was relevant.


Tom

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm


"Jim Vieira" <WhiplashrAT@wiDOT.rrDOT.com> wrote in message
news:0CfUg.25894$8_5.24070@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
quote:

> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:Oi1k8cm5GHA.3836@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> console
>
> Psst, check the newsgroup listing on this thread. It's also going to a PC
> action games group. That's where he probably saw it, and why he felt
> it was relevant.
>
>


Relevant to make ad hominem attacks and inane remarks because of a person's
gaming preference. Considering you think people are gullible for the same
reasons, that is also pure ad hominem. Scrotumger (named because of his
"donkey balls" remark) didn't give any good reason why Halo is bad. He also
shouldn't comment on the Halo console game since he states, "I neither know
nor care about the console version". When he plays it on a console, then
make a comment.

People like what they like, and because you don't like certain games (or
feel people to be gullible for owning them) doesn't make you right, it makes
you a hater by your own personal preference of games. I wouldn't tell you
that you're gullible, or suck donkey balls because I may not like what you
play, I simply wouldn't play it and leave it at that. If one wanted the
reason, I would give one based on the playing experience, not because of the
person I replying to.


Hank the Rapper

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm

Schrodinger wrote:
quote:

> It all makes sense in the end, Hank.


It does and all of the sudden all of your posts make sense as well. To
paraphrase Homer Simpson, "Why would a
man whose shirt says "Genius at Work" spend all of his time playing video
games?"


Chris F

2006-10-02, 7:50 pm

On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:11:38 -0400, "booty bandit"
<boodybandit@hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:

>
>"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>news:OyI8mtg5GHA.756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>I agree.
>LP didn't do a thing for me and I didn't care for the control or game design
>as a whole.
>Halo 3 will probably make this game look dated graphically. I have a
>feeling it's going to be a jaw dropper which Lost Planet is not.
>

considering it won;t be out for around a year, you'd bloody hope it'd
look better
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Schrodinger

2006-10-03, 5:49 am


"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
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quote:

>
> "Jim Vieira" <WhiplashrAT@wiDOT.rrDOT.com> wrote in message
> news:0CfUg.25894$8_5.24070@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> Relevant to make ad hominem attacks and inane remarks because of a
> person's gaming preference. Considering you think people are gullible for
> the same reasons, that is also pure ad hominem. Scrotumger (named because
> of his "donkey balls" remark) didn't give any good reason why Halo is bad.
> He also shouldn't comment on the Halo console game since he states, "I
> neither know nor care about the console version". When he plays it on a
> console, then make a comment.
>
> People like what they like, and because you don't like certain games (or
> feel people to be gullible for owning them) doesn't make you right, it
> makes you a hater by your own personal preference of games. I wouldn't
> tell you that you're gullible, or suck donkey balls because I may not like
> what you play, I simply wouldn't play it and leave it at that. If one
> wanted the reason, I would give one based on the playing experience, not
> because of the person I replying to.
>


To be fair, I didn't realise (I should have) that it was being cross posted
to a load of Xbox groups. I don't see why I should justify subjective
opinions - how can I "justify" that the graphics aren't that good - other
than saying "because they're not".

I stated that the game "sucks big donkey balls", not the poster. Thanks for
the opinion, though.


Schrodinger

2006-10-03, 5:49 am


"Hank the Rapper" <xflopgoon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> Schrodinger wrote:
>
>
> It does and all of the sudden all of your posts make sense as well. To
> paraphrase Homer Simpson, "Why would a
> man whose shirt says "Genius at Work" spend all of his time playing video
> games?"
>
>


Hank, just remember that you are a regular on csipga too.


i own a yacht

2006-10-03, 5:49 am

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Hank the Rapper <xflopgoon@yahoo.com> wrote:
quote:

> i own a yacht wrote:
>
>
> See, I disagree with that. Halo was my first console FPS game, everything
> before that was PC. I've played Halo five times because it's fun. The PC
> port was crap, though.


where's the disagreement? i said it was fun. but i guess you haven't
noticed all the people claiming it to be the pinnacle of fps gaming and
one of the greatest games of all time. that's just ridiculous, by any
standard.

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my meds." -Jim Vieira
Walter Mitty

2006-10-03, 7:48 pm

"Jim Vieira" <WhiplashrAT@wiDOT.rrDOT.com> writes:
quote:

> "Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
> news:C145C491.1F30%darkeagle@lisco.com...
>
> That doesn't make them right either. Gullible people falling for the
> latest,
> trendy gadget/fad FTW!
>


It makes the game developers right though.

best Seller = most appealing

Would you disagree with that?

Or you are still of the opinion that anyone who doesn't like what you
like are mindless sheep?

--
Getting your moral direction from politicians is like getting health
tips from Keith Richards.
yooznet

2006-10-03, 7:48 pm

"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:foUTg.8612$UG4.7203@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
quote:

>
> What's Halo and Halo 2's GameRankings score?
>
> Why is Peter Jackson hot to not only produce a Halo movie but another
> Halo game?
>


Because it will make him more money. He's not stupid. If a Barbie game
was the "it" thing right now, he would make a movie about it.

Halo is a run-of-the-mill first person shooter that only received high
accolades because it was released on a console, and most console gamers are
clueless about FPS games. I wonder how many have heard of or played
Tribes? Battlefield? Half-Life?
Had Halo been released on PC first, it would not have received scores
anywhere near what it got.
Zomoniac

2006-10-03, 7:48 pm

On 2006-10-03 12:12:17 +0100, yooznet <nomail@spam.isp> said:
quote:

> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:foUTg.8612$UG4.7203@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> Because it will make him more money. He's not stupid. If a Barbie
> game was the "it" thing right now, he would make a movie about it.
>
> Halo is a run-of-the-mill first person shooter that only received high
> accolades because it was released on a console, and most console gamers
> are clueless about FPS games. I wonder how many have heard of or
> played Tribes? Battlefield? Half-Life?


Played all 3. Halo is on par with Half-Life and miles better than
Tribes or Battlefield.
quote:

> Had Halo been released on PC first, it would not have received scores
> anywhere near what it got.


Well the PC port was shite. People who have played many, many PC
shooters play the Xbox version and adore it. Edge, the hardest game
magazine in the world to please, gave it a 10, which they give out on
average less than once every two years (only 5 games have ever got it
in about 11 years), and they've played every PC FPS game under the sun.

It was, first and foremost, built for a console. In 99% of cases, games
built for PC and then ported for console are better on PC, and vice
versa. It is a game that was built to be played with a controller, on a
couch. The multiplayer was built to be played with your mates, with
controllers, on a couch. It is exceptionally good at what it was
designed for. It was not designed to be a 64-player online fragfest, or
a huge MMOFPS, or a big tactical team-based warzone. It was designed to
be a FPS, with great graphics and sound for the time, with good solid
gameplay, that told a story, with decent AI, decent controls and a fun
local multiplayer game, all playable from the comfort of the sofa in
front of the TV. And it did exactly that.

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Chris F

2006-10-03, 7:48 pm

On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:44:58 +0100, Zomoniac
<the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:

>On 2006-10-03 12:12:17 +0100, yooznet <nomail@spam.isp> said:
>
>
>Played all 3. Halo is on par with Half-Life and miles better than
>Tribes or Battlefield.
>
>
>Well the PC port was shite. People who have played many, many PC
>shooters play the Xbox version and adore it. Edge, the hardest game
>magazine in the world to please, gave it a 10, which they give out on
>average less than once every two years (only 5 games have ever got it
>in about 11 years), and they've played every PC FPS game under the sun.
>
>It was, first and foremost, built for a console. In 99% of cases, games
>built for PC and then ported for console are better on PC, and vice
>versa. It is a game that was built to be played with a controller, on a
>couch. The multiplayer was built to be played with your mates, with
>controllers, on a couch. It is exceptionally good at what it was
>designed for. It was not designed to be a 64-player online fragfest, or
>a huge MMOFPS, or a big tactical team-based warzone. It was designed to
>be a FPS, with great graphics and sound for the time, with good solid
>gameplay, that told a story, with decent AI, decent controls and a fun
>local multiplayer game, all playable from the comfort of the sofa in
>front of the TV. And it did exactly that.


actually, it started life as a PC title, then MS bought Bungie.

</pedant>
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Zomoniac

2006-10-03, 7:48 pm

On 2006-10-03 12:53:16 +0100, Chris F <chris@asifimtellingyoulot.com> said:
quote:

> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:44:58 +0100, Zomoniac
> <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> actually, it started life as a PC title, then MS bought Bungie.
>
> </pedant>


Actually, it started life as a Mac title, then MS bought Bungie.

</pedant>

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i own a yacht

2006-10-03, 7:48 pm

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Zomoniac <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:

> On 2006-10-03 12:12:17 +0100, yooznet <nomail@spam.isp> said:
>
> Played all 3. Halo is on par with Half-Life and miles better than
> Tribes or Battlefield.


halo better than battlefield? below you talk about what halo was "built
to be." battlefield certainly wasn't built to be like halo, so how can
you then say halo is miles better than battlefield if they're both
trying to achieve different things? halo is closer to an unreal
tournament than either of those games. of course, neither of them play
well on a couch in front of a tv, either.
quote:

> Well the PC port was shite. People who have played many, many PC
> shooters play the Xbox version and adore it.


not me.
quote:

> Edge, the hardest game magazine in the world to please, gave it a 10, which
> they give out on average less than once every two years (only 5 games have
> ever got it in about 11 years), and they've played every PC FPS game under
> the sun.


i mean, who gives a shit? for this to matter in the slightest you would
have to agree with every single score Edge hands out. do you? have they
ever rated a game highly that you didn't like? but their halo score
actually means something because you agree with it? this is of course
ignoring the marketing juggernaut behind halo and the fact that positive
reviews are bought all the time. but i guess it's possible that halo, as
derivative as it is, really is just a perfect game?

it's real easy, don't uses scores from reviews to validate an opinion.
roger ebert doesn't tell me what is a good movie and what isn't. why use
a review like it's some kind of objective statement of quality? it's one
guy's opinion. an opinion that can be influenced by so many things. it's
kinda the point of this discussion that popular or critical opinion does
not always reflect quality.
quote:

> It was, first and foremost, built for a console. In 99% of cases, games
> built for PC and then ported for console are better on PC, and vice
> versa. It is a game that was built to be played with a controller, on a
> couch. The multiplayer was built to be played with your mates, with
> controllers, on a couch.


lots of things become a lot more fun when enjoyed with friends. a
mediocre comedy can turn into a hilarious comedy with a few friends,
comfortable seats, and maybe a few other substances. that doesn't
automatically turn the movie into a masterwork. that is, your experience
playing the game is great. that does not make the game itself great.
quote:

> It is exceptionally good at what it was designed for. It was not designed to
> be a 64-player online fragfest, or a huge MMOFPS, or a big tactical
> team-based warzone. It was designed to be a FPS, with great graphics and
> sound for the time, with good solid gameplay, that told a story, with decent
> AI, decent controls and a fun local multiplayer game, all playable from the
> comfort of the sofa in front of the TV. And it did exactly that.


i'm not a fan of this argument either. it's what people say about doom
3. it was designed to be a simple old-school corridor shooter and
because that's all it is, it's a success. i don't care what the
developers intended to make, all i care about is the final product. and
if the final product is extremely reminiscent of several other games and
doesn't do anything new or even really improve on any particularly area
then i'm not going to consider it amazing. it might be lots of fun, but
that doesn't make it a brilliant game. that's the distinction most
people just don't bother to make.

--
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my meds." -Jim Vieira
Devala Rees

2006-10-03, 7:48 pm

On 10/3/06 3:48 AM, in article 12i48u4fp7l94f9@corp.supernews.com, "i own a
yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
quote:

> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Hank the Rapper <xflopgoon@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> where's the disagreement? i said it was fun. but i guess you haven't
> noticed all the people claiming it to be the pinnacle of fps gaming and
> one of the greatest games of all time. that's just ridiculous, by any
> standard.


No, by your standard. Personally I think it is at the pinnacle of FPS gaming
(perhaps sharing the spot with a few others like Half-Life), and it is one
of the greatest games of all time. And a lot of people agree. What's
ridiculous is people saying that it definitively IS the greatest game ever,
which can never be said about any game because of the nature of opinions.

Tom

2006-10-03, 7:49 pm


"Chris F" <chris@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
news:ba73i25otno2tfg8fpuuna2mne16rto7t0@4ax.com...
quote:

> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:11:38 -0400, "booty bandit"
> <boodybandit@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> considering it won;t be out for around a year, you'd bloody hope it'd
> look better
> --
>


No, not a year, but 3 months from now, as stated at Gamespot
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/adv...q=lost%20planet

Maybe you meant in "quarter" of a year :-), but it doesn't mean it will be
then. But a year is a way big stretch to far to be released, considering the
hype happening now regarding the game.


Tom

2006-10-03, 7:49 pm


"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:NMoUg.262263$Dk3.209832@fe01.news.easynews.com...
quote:

>
> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:earD44m5GHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> To be fair, I didn't realise (I should have) that it was being cross
> posted to a load of Xbox groups. I don't see why I should justify
> subjective opinions - how can I "justify" that the graphics aren't that
> good - other than saying "because they're not".
>
> I stated that the game "sucks big donkey balls", not the poster. Thanks
> for the opinion, though.
>


And I knew you weren't making a personal attack on someone in particular,
and "ad hominem' doesn't only have that specific definition. But saying
"sucks donkey balls", is not proof why it is bad, but gaming experience;
please share that even from your PC playing experience, if you really have
played it..

I have a friend who is a PS fan but he likes PC gaming much more. His first
choice for console gaming is Nintendo and he would rather have a Wii than
the PS3, though he's getting both. He played Halo on the PC and disliked it
too, but for reasons not out of hate. He admitted playing it also on the
Xbox at a friend's place and said it was way better graphically and played
nicer, but the game wasn't for him. He also admitted that he didn't play the
missions, just the multiplayer modes, and he didn't like it. So he really
didn't play it in its both modes and I considered his thought half valid,
even though he says he like missions/campaigns.

I don't like Halo or H2 in multiplayer, as that isn't for me, I like the
campaigns and storylines and feel they are much more fun. I play almost all
my games for specifically for their campaigns/mission and seldom for
multiplayer, though I have played quite a bit of PD0 and COD2 in
multiplayer. I like console gaming better because I have a lot of with it
(Xbox live is awesome) and it is cheaper than PC gaming. PC gaming (which I
used to do) got too out of hand with the cost of keeping up with hardware
year after year and online gaming services.

To sum it up, you should like/dislike gaming in either mode (PC or console)
because of experience, not out non-experience biased thoughts. People are
going to like/dislike things because they experience them, not out of
hearsay, propagated unfounded bias preference or whatever. Halo may be
terrible (even for me though I love the game) on the PC because I prefer
consoles since going back to NES. I cannot comment how it looks or feels on
a PC because I have it already for the console, but it satisfies me still on
the console to this day. I still think Halo is better than Halo 2 in
missions because H2 was too short, but really good in the storyline.


Zomoniac

2006-10-03, 7:49 pm

On 2006-10-03 22:56:13 +0100, "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> said:
quote:

>
> "Chris F" <chris@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
> news:ba73i25otno2tfg8fpuuna2mne16rto7t0@4ax.com...
>
> No, not a year, but 3 months from now, as stated at Gamespot
> http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/adv...q=lost%20planet
>
> Maybe you meant in "quarter" of a year :-), but it doesn't mean it
> will be then. But a year is a way big stretch to far to be released,
> considering the hype happening now regarding the game.


Re-read the last posts carefully, he was talking about Halo 3, which is
most definitely not coming out in three months

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i own a yacht

2006-10-03, 7:49 pm

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Michael Cargill <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
quote:

> So then what is your point? We have heard your silly little rant about the
> Top 40 but you have not given one reason why these people should actually
> care about other music. Most of them are probably more snobbish about the
> toilet paper they buy than they are of the music they listen to. Why,
> exactly, should it be the other way round?


the point is, idiot, that just because something is in the charts
doesn't mean it's a sign of quality. there's a context here that you're
skipping over.
quote:

>
> I am sure your average person strives to be someone who hates the Top 40 and
> thinks that Halo is overrated.


i'm sure you think that comment actually means something but i'm pretty
sure it doesn't.
quote:

>
> So give a reason why they should be deeply interested in music.


no one has to be interested in music. learn to read.
quote:

>
> Do you actually have a point to make anywhere amongst all this?
>
> So far you have given a rather yawn-inducing and predictable spiel against
> the masses and what is currently popular. Your last paragraph doesn't even
> make any sense in the context of anything that has so far been said.
>
> And as for being boring...? So far all you have said is that you hate the
> Top 40 and Halo. I doubt if anyone sees that as being an example of someone
> leading an exciting life.


after you learn to read, work on your comprehension.

--
"Please excuse my posts in this thread this morning, I had not yet taken
my meds." -Jim Vieira
i own a yacht

2006-10-03, 7:49 pm

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Devala Rees <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote:
quote:

> On 10/3/06 3:48 AM, in article 12i48u4fp7l94f9@corp.supernews.com, "i own a
> yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> No, by your standard. Personally I think it is at the pinnacle of FPS gaming
> (perhaps sharing the spot with a few others like Half-Life), and it is one
> of the greatest games of all time. And a lot of people agree. What's
> ridiculous is people saying that it definitively IS the greatest game ever,
> which can never be said about any game because of the nature of opinions.


you're attempting to say it _IS_ by tacking on the "and a lot of people
agree." who cares how many people agree with you? i'm sure a lot of
people agree with me that it's overrated as well.

--
"Please excuse my posts in this thread this morning, I had not yet taken
my meds." -Jim Vieira
Hank the Rapper

2006-10-03, 11:45 pm

i own a yacht wrote:
quote:

> where's the disagreement? i said it was fun. but i guess you haven't
> noticed all the people claiming it to be the pinnacle of fps gaming
> and
> one of the greatest games of all time. that's just ridiculous, by any
> standard.


I guess that would be you calling it overhyped. I would say it lives up to
the hype. Yes, the game has flaws but I rarely play game twice, let alone
five times. I haven't even done that with HL2 and that's a better game.


i own a yacht

2006-10-04, 2:51 am

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Jonah Falcon <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote:
quote:

>
> "Hank the Rapper" <xflopgoon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> You might notice it isn't JUST the @*&#@^# sales. Check GameRankings and the
> CRITICAL reviews, too. (rolling eyes)


there's nothing critical about perfect scores for a retread of a
retread.

--
"Please excuse my posts in this thread this morning, I had not yet taken
my meds." -Jim Vieira
Hank the Rapper

2006-10-04, 7:54 pm

i own a yacht wrote:
quote:

> so halo 2 received all those perfect scores just because of the
> multiplayer?


A big part of it, yes. Reading all the reactions to Halo 2's multiplayer and
it seems to rank up there with one of the Unreal Touraments and Couterstrick
in terms of popularity. Just because I didn't find Halo 2 to be that great
doesn't mean I think other people should feel the same way. Have you played
Halo 2? They did add some depth to the gameplay like stealing the Covenant's
vehicles while they are on them and using two weapons at once. The story is
my biggest beef with the game.


i own a yacht

2006-10-05, 2:44 am

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Hank the Rapper <xflopgoon@yahoo.com> wrote:
quote:

> Have you played Halo 2? They did add some depth to the gameplay like
> stealing the Covenant's vehicles while they are on them and using two
> weapons at once. The story is my biggest beef with the game.


yes, i've finished both of them. like i said, i was really enjoying the
early earth levels but then it quickly returned to familiar territory
and became very repetitive and boring.

--
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my meds." -Jim Vieira
i own a yacht

2006-10-06, 7:50 pm

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Michael Cargill <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
quote:

> I can only assume from this comment (and others) that you have not yet even
> got past the 'college' stage of life. Certainly, you have no real
> responsibilities in your life yet and so cannot grasp the concept that music
> is not really that much of a priority to most people compared to everything
> else.


because no one with any "real" responsibilities cares about music. or
maybe you're just a boring old fart who doesn't care about music and
can't understand why it might be important to some people.
quote:

> No-one ever regards employment/shopping/rent/work as something to be enjoyed
> or hated - they are regarded as being ESSENTIAL to earning money and keeping
> yourself supported.


right, no one ever hates or loves their job, hates or loves shopping,
enjoys working, no one ever takes a lesser paying job so they can do
something they love. everyone thinks like you do, old man. no wonder you
can't figure it out.
quote:

>
> That would be mostly people who have little else in their lives to
> contemplate.


because everyone shares your interests and spends their time doing the
same things you spend your time doing. why wouldn't i just listen to top
40 music? we all think alike, so it's guaranteed to be good!

clearly there's no good reason for anyone to spend any time thinking
about human psychology. there's not enough time, what with all the jobs
and paying of rent.
quote:

> No-one has yet used popularity to wholly validate the quality of what they
> are playing or listening to. That is something that you yourself have got
> into your petty little mind and then run away with to such an extent that
> you have real idea what it is that you are trying to say anymore.


no, you just have an extremely narrow black-and-white worldview coupled with
some pretty bad reading comprehension.
quote:

> Unfortunately the only simple one here is yourself. In one post you have
> swung from hinting that you acknowledge that I understand popularity does
> not equal quality, to then saying that I could not figure it out.


or maybe i wasn't hinting that at all and you just imagined it? you said
my point is obvious but you're still arguing against it. no, you don't
get it.
quote:

> If you are going to try to insult people and question their intelligence on
> such a regular and persistent basis, I suggest that you take the time to
> learn some grammar first. Hearing your tirades is like listening to someone
> with Unertan syndrome tell me I am stupid for not walking on all fours.


shall i point out all your mistakes in this post, professor? i know it
must burn your XXX that someone who doesn't even capitalize at the
beginning of a sentence is calling you an idiot, but try and deal. it's
all going to be ok.

so, you have no respect for art or individuality. you're not someone i
really want to have anything to do with. so make your closing statement
and bugger off.

--
"Please excuse my posts in this thread this morning, I had not yet taken
my meds." -Jim Vieira
Devala Rees

2006-10-06, 7:50 pm

On 10/6/06 10:33 AM, in article 12ictr6rb0h9v92@corp.supernews.com, "i own a
yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
quote:

> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Michael Cargill <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
>
>
> because no one with any "real" responsibilities cares about music. or
> maybe you're just a boring old fart who doesn't care about music and
> can't understand why it might be important to some people.
>


Exactly. Is a man who makes a living as a musician less responsible than a
man who makes a living any other way?
quote:

>
> right, no one ever hates or loves their job, hates or loves shopping,
> enjoys working, no one ever takes a lesser paying job so they can do
> something they love. everyone thinks like you do, old man. no wonder you
> can't figure it out.
>
>
> because everyone shares your interests and spends their time doing the
> same things you spend your time doing. why wouldn't i just listen to top
> 40 music? we all think alike, so it's guaranteed to be good!
>
> clearly there's no good reason for anyone to spend any time thinking
> about human psychology. there's not enough time, what with all the jobs
> and paying of rent.
>
>
> no, you just have an extremely narrow black-and-white worldview coupled with
> some pretty bad reading comprehension.
>
>
> or maybe i wasn't hinting that at all and you just imagined it? you said
> my point is obvious but you're still arguing against it. no, you don't
> get it.
>
>
> shall i point out all your mistakes in this post, professor? i know it
> must burn your XXX that someone who doesn't even capitalize at the
> beginning of a sentence is calling you an idiot, but try and deal. it's
> all going to be ok.
>
> so, you have no respect for art or individuality. you're not someone i
> really want to have anything to do with. so make your closing statement
> and bugger off.


Michael Cargill

2006-10-06, 7:50 pm

"Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
news:C14BFB50.2001%darkeagle@lisco.com...
quote:

> On 10/6/06 10:33 AM, in article 12ictr6rb0h9v92@corp.supernews.com, "i own
> a
> yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> Exactly. Is a man who makes a living as a musician less responsible than a
> man who makes a living any other way?


You must have been educated in the same establishment as Mr Yacht. Or maybe
you have replied to the wrong post by accident.

Your response is not related to anything that I have said. At what point
have said that a musician is less responsible than someone who works
somewhere else? Where have I even MENTIONED musicians, or any other
particular trade?


Devala Rees

2006-10-06, 7:50 pm

On 10/6/06 4:24 PM, in article 4onvrpFf9p5pU1@individual.net, "Michael
Cargill" <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
quote:

> "Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
> news:C14BFB50.2001%darkeagle@lisco.com...
>
> You must have been educated in the same establishment as Mr Yacht. Or maybe
> you have replied to the wrong post by accident.
>
> Your response is not related to anything that I have said. At what point
> have said that a musician is less responsible than someone who works
> somewhere else? Where have I even MENTIONED musicians, or any other
> particular trade?
>
>


I never actually saw your original post (I've only been looking on the halo
group, so I've missed some of your messages), but I was just assuming that
Mr. Yacht was quoting you correctly and backing him up. So if he wasn't, my
apologies.

Michael Cargill

2006-10-07, 5:53 am

"Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
news:C14C4A87.200C%darkeagle@lisco.com...
quote:

> On 10/6/06 4:24 PM, in article 4onvrpFf9p5pU1@individual.net, "Michael
> Cargill" <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
>
> I never actually saw your original post (I've only been looking on the
> halo
> group, so I've missed some of your messages), but I was just assuming that
> Mr. Yacht was quoting you correctly and backing him up. So if he wasn't,
> my
> apologies.


Ok, fair enough!


i own a yacht

2006-10-07, 7:49 pm

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Devala Rees <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote:
quote:

> I never actually saw your original post (I've only been looking on the halo
> group, so I've missed some of your messages), but I was just assuming that
> Mr. Yacht was quoting you correctly and backing him up. So if he wasn't, my
> apologies.


i was quoting him correctly, you can see the original message at google.
he just doesn't seem to know what he's saying.

--
"Please excuse my posts in this thread this morning, I had not yet taken
my meds." -Jim Vieira
Michael Cargill

2006-10-07, 7:49 pm

"i own a yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:12ifl98bq0dlr27@corp.supernews.com...
quote:

> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Devala Rees <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> i was quoting him correctly, you can see the original message at google.
> he just doesn't seem to know what he's saying.


Oh really? So perhaps YOU could tell me where I even comment on the
legitamatacy of musicians making a living.


i own a yacht

2006-10-07, 7:49 pm

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Michael Cargill <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
quote:

> "i own a yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:12ictr6rb0h9v92@corp.supernews.com...
>
> At what point did I say that no-one with responsbilities cared about music?


at the point when you accused me of having no "real" responsibilities
and not being able to understand that music isn't that important to most
people? try and use semantics to weasel your way around it, your
position is clear. that you were happy to leave devala under the
impression that i had somehow misquoted you speaks volumes.
quote:

> To the vast majority of people music really is not all that important in
> relation to everything else. You can protest to the contrary all you like
> but the declining sales of the record industry over the past 15 or 20 years
> or so backs me up.


that must be it. something that has been an integral part of human
development since the caveman days is no longer relevant because people
don't buy as much music as they used to. maybe that has something to do
with the quality of mainstream music eh?

why am i arguing, though? the vast majority of people think like you do
so i must be wrong! what a perfect example you have become.
quote:

> So, for about the fourth time, please explain to me exactly WHY someone
> should have to care about music beyond what they can hear on the radio?


why would i bother trying to explain the colour purple to a blind man?
quote:

> I lumped work in with a couple of other things as examples of them being
> things people do because they HAVE to and not so much because they WANT to.
> This was in response to you saying that people who do those things instead
> of looking for music are boring.


i didn't say those people were boring, i said you were boring. oh wait,
the vast majority of people are just like you so i guess i am talking
about them as well eh?
quote:

> Perhaps one day when you will learn that listening to music does not pay the
> bills.


because the only thing that matters in life is paying the bills and we
must focus on that task 24/7.
quote:

> You have no responsbilities in your life.


is that so?
quote:

> You think music is very important.


yes.
quote:

> Other people work.


because you can't hold a job and appreciate music at the same time.
quote:

> Sales of music are in decline.
>
> That speaks volumes.


yeah, you've got it all figured out.
quote:

>
> What has this got to do with anything?
>
> Advances in the knowledge of human psychology are made by psychologists who
> do as it a job.


because only people interested in advancing a field spend any time on
it. obviously, i mean, what a waste of time!

of course, no professional psychologist has ever spent any time looking
into the subjects i've brought up in this thread. nope. marketing and
consumerism are a mystery to us all.

you really do have life figured out. bravo.
quote:

> You still haven't been able to backup what you are saying.


i've repeated myself several times. you are not equipped to understand
the issue.
quote:

> And to be quite frank it does not 'burn my XXX' hearing you call me an
> idiot. I believe that I have already provided an example of how I find your
> insults - perhaps your reading comprehnsion skills are lacking. Or maybe
> your dyslexia does not enable you read the confusing word in that sentence.


you misspelled comprehension.
quote:

>
> Absolutely incredible. I merely try to tell you why so many people are not
> deeply interested in music and you somehow come to the conclusion that I
> have no respect for art or individuality.


so anyone who enjoys music outside of the top 40 is "deeply interested"
in it? of course it must seem that way, to someone with such a low
opinion of music.
quote:

> It would appear that I have far more respect for individuality than you do


yeah, i guess that's why you defend your position by claiming the vast
majority agree with you. no, you don't even say they agree with you, you
simply speak for them. you clearly have a great respect for
individuality.
quote:

> as I have not critisised anyone for taking an interest in music, yet here
> you are saying that you do not want to be associated with anyone who is not
> passionate about their CD collection.


i have friends who don't listen to music. no, i don't want to be
associated with you. you are an incredibly dull individual who seems
flabbergasted that not everyone on the planet spends their every waking
moment consumed by the thoughts of how they were going to make their next
buck.
quote:

> I have asked you a few times now to tell me why someone should care so much
> about music. I have explained why people do NOT care so much for it, but
> you have not been able to provide one argument against it. I have asked you
> the same question three times in this post alone - are you able to backup
> your insults and rants with anything more solid?


because the reasons are obvious to anyone who isn't a completely
narrow-minded dullard. you don't get it, you never will. why should
anyone care about anything that isn't on some "best of" list? again, why
indeed. afterall, the vast majority and all that. enjoy your exciting
life.

--
"Please excuse my posts in this thread this morning, I had not yet taken
my meds." -Jim Vieira
i own a yacht

2006-10-07, 7:49 pm

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Michael Cargill <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
quote:

> "i own a yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:12ifl98bq0dlr27@corp.supernews.com...
>
> Oh really? So perhaps YOU could tell me where I even comment on the
> legitamatacy of musicians making a living.


do you see the word "musician" in my part of the quote? devala got that
from your comment. evidently she (she?) got the same impression from
your comment as i did.

--
"Please excuse my posts in this thread this morning, I had not yet taken
my meds." -Jim Vieira
Michael Cargill

2006-10-07, 7:49 pm

"i own a yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:12ifpank3turm9c@corp.supernews.com...
quote:

> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Michael Cargill <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
>
> do you see the word "musician" in my part of the quote? devala got that
> from your comment. evidently she (she?) got the same impression from
> your comment as i did.


WHAT? What do you want? Why are you here?

I swear, you must be known as Napoleon Dynamite in your home town.


Devala Rees

2006-10-08, 7:50 pm

On 10/7/06 12:35 PM, in article 12ifpank3turm9c@corp.supernews.com, "i own a
yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
quote:

> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Michael Cargill <fickle@fickle.abc> wrote:
>
> do you see the word "musician" in my part of the quote? devala got that
> from your comment. evidently she (she?) got the same impression from
> your comment as i did.


Ahem... That would be a "He," thank you very much.

i own a yacht

2006-10-08, 7:50 pm

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Devala Rees <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote:
quote:

> On 10/7/06 12:35 PM, in article 12ifpank3turm9c@corp.supernews.com, "i own a
> yacht" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> Ahem... That would be a "He," thank you very much.


sorry. now i'm going to spend an hour reading about hinduism. bloody
wiki.

--
"Please excuse my posts in this thread this morning, I had not yet taken
my meds." -Jim Vieira
Jahwe

2006-11-19, 9:50 pm


"i own a yacht" <me@privacy.net> schreef in bericht
news:12iikl9e9enarad@corp.supernews.com...
quote:

> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Devala Rees <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote:
>
> sorry. now i'm going to spend an hour reading about hinduism. bloody
> wiki.
>


Michael where is your reply, i was so much enjoying this...
quote:

> --
> "Please excuse my posts in this thread this morning, I had not yet taken
> my meds." -Jim Vieira



Tim

2006-11-19, 9:51 pm

You're clearly only here to wind up Halo fans, since why would a Halo-hater
come to a newsgroup exclusively for Halo players? Jeez. Who's using the
family brain cell? Whoever it is, ask for it back.
"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:bSTTg.15850$PP1.9919@fe04.news.easynews.com...
quote:

>
> "AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159725744.872571.36210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> As the Halo series sucks big donkey balls, this would hardly be

surprising.
quote:

>
>



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