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bencho

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

Hi,

I'm a college student and I won't have a tv with me in my dorm. I want to
know how to play my xbox and playstation on my PC. i have both, standard RCA
and S-Video cables for the systems but how do I port them onto the pc because
i want to use my monitor and my computer speakers.

specs
asus a8n-sli premium
amd x2 4400
leadtek winfast 6600
1gb corsair xms dual channel
sony hs75p lcd
creative audigy 2
klipsch promedia 2.1 speakers

i know a little bit-- probably a tv tuner.. but i read about pvr delay? how
do i find out which tuner to buy? i will probably not watch tv at all, but
merely use the tv tuner for game consoles. and once i find a tuner with the
correct ports, how would i get the audio to work? i am a complete noob to
this and have spent the entire day reading and googling but am still quite
confused. any help would be much appreciated!! thanks!!
David Parkes

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

Get hold of a VGA cable for both systems


"bencho" <bencho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5B24B560-6A36-4F7F-A64E-34A1F1B08E96@microsoft.com...
quote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm a college student and I won't have a tv with me in my dorm. I want to
> know how to play my xbox and playstation on my PC. i have both, standard
> RCA
> and S-Video cables for the systems but how do I port them onto the pc
> because
> i want to use my monitor and my computer speakers.
>
> specs
> asus a8n-sli premium
> amd x2 4400
> leadtek winfast 6600
> 1gb corsair xms dual channel
> sony hs75p lcd
> creative audigy 2
> klipsch promedia 2.1 speakers
>
> i know a little bit-- probably a tv tuner.. but i read about pvr delay?
> how
> do i find out which tuner to buy? i will probably not watch tv at all, but
> merely use the tv tuner for game consoles. and once i find a tuner with
> the
> correct ports, how would i get the audio to work? i am a complete noob to
> this and have spent the entire day reading and googling but am still quite
> confused. any help would be much appreciated!! thanks!!



Chris H.

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

The problem with playing a video game console through the PC is most times
if you've got the proper video capture card in the PC you're actually
getting a two- to three-second delay in the display off a TV, for instance.
As such, what you will be seeing from the video game is delayed that two
seconds or more, so unless you're some sort of gaming ninja, you're not
going to be able to react to moves on-screen because they happened a couple
seconds previously. Best case is if you have a monitor which will do the
output from the console separately, without running through the PC.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"bencho" <bencho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5B24B560-6A36-4F7F-A64E-34A1F1B08E96@microsoft.com...
quote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm a college student and I won't have a tv with me in my dorm. I want to
> know how to play my xbox and playstation on my PC. i have both, standard
> RCA
> and S-Video cables for the systems but how do I port them onto the pc
> because
> i want to use my monitor and my computer speakers.
>
> specs
> asus a8n-sli premium
> amd x2 4400
> leadtek winfast 6600
> 1gb corsair xms dual channel
> sony hs75p lcd
> creative audigy 2
> klipsch promedia 2.1 speakers
>
> i know a little bit-- probably a tv tuner.. but i read about pvr delay?
> how
> do i find out which tuner to buy? i will probably not watch tv at all, but
> merely use the tv tuner for game consoles. and once i find a tuner with
> the
> correct ports, how would i get the audio to work? i am a complete noob to
> this and have spent the entire day reading and googling but am still quite
> confused. any help would be much appreciated!! thanks!!



bencho

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

i went to tons of places yesterday.. bestbuy, circuit city, staples,
electronics botique, radioshack.. they all said theres nothing that can port
rca/svid/composite to vga directly and that i need to find a tv tuner card
that does not have pvr or pvr that can be turned off to eliminate lag...

however, if i can whip up an adapter to port it directly to the lcd OR go
the tv tuner path, i would also have to find someway to hookup the computer
speakers too. how? because my soundcard wouldnt accept any of the
aformentioned cables, right?

any recommendations?
Kendrick Kerwin Chua

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

In article <BB0C8565-1D47-4192-B6A1-C8FDA09F8F55@microsoft.com>,
bencho <bencho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
quote:

>i went to tons of places yesterday.. bestbuy, circuit city, staples,
>electronics botique, radioshack.. they all said theres nothing that can port
>rca/svid/composite to vga directly and that i need to find a tv tuner card
>that does not have pvr or pvr that can be turned off to eliminate lag...


Consumer electronics retailers in America do not cater to computer gamers
who are also videophiles. What you should be looking for is something
called an upscan convertor, and these are generally available from game
importers and other enthusiast organizations. Try this one on:

http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/HP2-143X.html

NCS is a game importer that I recommend. They're based in New York and
they've been bringing in import gaming products for ten years or so.
quote:

>however, if i can whip up an adapter to port it directly to the lcd OR go
>the tv tuner path, i would also have to find someway to hookup the computer
>speakers too. how? because my soundcard wouldnt accept any of the
>aformentioned cables, right?
>
>any recommendations?


Most game consoles have line-level audio output that you can run straight
to the speaker input. A switchbox for normal composite A/V signals is
ideal for this. Hope that gets you started.

-KKC, still waiting for that list of region-free original Xbox games.
--
"These are the good years for Barb and me. We installed a bible - kendrick
detector at the front door. And now when the doorbell rings and - @io.com
the red light flashes, we know we have to sit very quietly and -
wait for them to go away." Catchup Advisory board, A Prairie Home Companion
Matt

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

You might also look into this:
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?ca...66&lsaid=271300 .


morencyj@gmail.com

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

For the price of rigging something together, why not just buy a small
TV?

Matt wrote:
quote:

> You might also look into this:
> http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?ca...66&lsaid=271300 .


bencho

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

another problem is space within my dorm room... otherwise that probably would
be the easiest solution... anways, ill keep researching and if i do find a
relatively feasible way to do what i want.. ill post it up!

"morencyj@gmail.com" wrote:
quote:

> For the price of rigging something together, why not just buy a small
> TV?
>
> Matt wrote:
>
>

pq2000pq@gmail.com

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

You can use a tv tuner card. Put the x-box s-video/composite and audio
to the tuner card. The tuner card has an audio out to your sound
card-in. Then allow sound in on your sound card and the xbox sound
should be on your pc speakers

bencho wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> another problem is space within my dorm room... otherwise that probably would
> be the easiest solution... anways, ill keep researching and if i do find a
> relatively feasible way to do what i want.. ill post it up!
>
> "morencyj@gmail.com" wrote:
>

Doug Jacobs

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

pq2000pq@gmail.com wrote:
quote:

> You can use a tv tuner card. Put the x-box s-video/composite and audio
> to the tuner card. The tuner card has an audio out to your sound
> card-in. Then allow sound in on your sound card and the xbox sound
> should be on your pc speakers


While that will work...it also introduces some delay into the signal.
This will make the majority of games unplayable due to the fact by the
time you hit the button to dodge...you're already dead. The advantage,
though, is that you can watch TV or play your game in a window, while
still doing other stuff with your computer.

However, a VGA convertor box is the better solution overall. These can
take a standard video signal from a game console, or other device, and
display it on a computer monitor. They range in price between $50 to $300
- depending on what features you want. Some also act as a TV tuner, so if
your dorm gets cable, you can plug that in as well, and use your monitor
to watch TV.

I'm using one at home at the moment. I didn't want to spend a lot of
money, and was overjoyed to find the RTV VEG-Lite on sale for $25 at a
local store (normally $40.) This is a switch that allows me to plug in my
monitor (analog D-connector - not DVI) and computer speakers between my PC
and any composite video or s-video device - such as a game console
(or DVD player, VCR, etc.) When the VEG-Lite is off, it simply acts as a
pass-thru for my computer but when it's on, it'll display the signal from
my game console.

The picture is OK - I was not expecting anything super-duper here, but
overall I'm pretty happy with it. This switch does not do any enhancement
to the signal, nor does it support component or digital connections or
HD. I found a multi-console cable from Pelican that can plug into the
Xbox, PS2 or Game Cube which is good because now I don't have to fiddle
with cables and connectors if I want to move from one console to another.

RTV makes 2 other models - their regular RTV VEG includes a TV tuner, so
you can plug in an antenna or basic cable and watch TV on your computer
screen. Their VEG-N contains a TV tuner and some extra software to turn
your computer into a simple DVR, allowing you to record TV shows and store
them on your computer's hard drive for later viewing. I haven't used
these products. I was only interested in connecting my consoles to my
computer monitor, and for $40, the RTV VEG-Lite gets the job done nicely.
Doug Jacobs

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

David Parkes <wibble@wobble.com> wrote:
quote:

> Get hold of a VGA cable for both systems


[vbcol=seagreen]
> "bencho" <bencho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5B24B560-6A36-4F7F-A64E-34A1F1B08E96@microsoft.com...


Doug Jacobs

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

David Parkes <wibble@wobble.com> wrote:
quote:

> Get hold of a VGA cable for both systems


The original XBOX (he didn't say 360) and neither Playstations support VGA
directly. He needs a VGA convertor, then he can plug his consoles into
that.
bencho

2006-08-03, 6:14 am

that sounds really good! but google/froogle doesnt give me anything on rtv
veg.. also, will it work on my little brother's regular playstation?

"Doug Jacobs" wrote:
quote:

> pq2000pq@gmail.com wrote:
>
> While that will work...it also introduces some delay into the signal.
> This will make the majority of games unplayable due to the fact by the
> time you hit the button to dodge...you're already dead. The advantage,
> though, is that you can watch TV or play your game in a window, while
> still doing other stuff with your computer.
>
> However, a VGA convertor box is the better solution overall. These can
> take a standard video signal from a game console, or other device, and
> display it on a computer monitor. They range in price between $50 to $300
> - depending on what features you want. Some also act as a TV tuner, so if
> your dorm gets cable, you can plug that in as well, and use your monitor
> to watch TV.
>
> I'm using one at home at the moment. I didn't want to spend a lot of
> money, and was overjoyed to find the RTV VEG-Lite on sale for $25 at a
> local store (normally $40.) This is a switch that allows me to plug in my
> monitor (analog D-connector - not DVI) and computer speakers between my PC
> and any composite video or s-video device - such as a game console
> (or DVD player, VCR, etc.) When the VEG-Lite is off, it simply acts as a
> pass-thru for my computer but when it's on, it'll display the signal from
> my game console.
>
> The picture is OK - I was not expecting anything super-duper here, but
> overall I'm pretty happy with it. This switch does not do any enhancement
> to the signal, nor does it support component or digital connections or
> HD. I found a multi-console cable from Pelican that can plug into the
> Xbox, PS2 or Game Cube which is good because now I don't have to fiddle
> with cables and connectors if I want to move from one console to another.
>
> RTV makes 2 other models - their regular RTV VEG includes a TV tuner, so
> you can plug in an antenna or basic cable and watch TV on your computer
> screen. Their VEG-N contains a TV tuner and some extra software to turn
> your computer into a simple DVR, allowing you to record TV shows and store
> them on your computer's hard drive for later viewing. I haven't used
> these products. I was only interested in connecting my consoles to my
> computer monitor, and for $40, the RTV VEG-Lite gets the job done nicely.
>

Doug Jacobs

2006-09-26, 7:55 pm

bencho <bencho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
quote:

> that sounds really good! but google/froogle doesnt give me anything on rtv
> veg.. also, will it work on my little brother's regular playstation?


Don't know if you'll see this response or not...

Website is: www.rtv-veg.com

Veg-Lite: http://www.rtv-veg.com/products/veglite/

These will work with anything that has a composite or svideo connector
that you would normally connect to a TV. This includes VCRs, DVD players,
game consoles, video cameras, etc.

The regular Veg has the same features, but also adds a TV tuner. Just
plug in your (analog) cable or TV antenna, and watch TV on your computer
monitor.
markluitzen

2006-11-19, 9:51 pm

if I have a xbox360 and a pc but only one monitor can I use a kvm cable or
switch using vga cable from pc and vga hd cable from xbox360 to kvm and
connect the 1 monitor to the kvm?
Tom Scales

2006-11-19, 9:51 pm

Should work. Can't see why it wouldn't
"markluitzen" <markluitzen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> if I have a xbox360 and a pc but only one monitor can I use a kvm cable or
> switch using vga cable from pc and vga hd cable from xbox360 to kvm and
> connect the 1 monitor to the kvm?



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