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Looking for mod reccomendations
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| version 1 xbox - wanting a solderless chip and then what else do I need to
do?
suggestions?
thanx.
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| Ameilius 2005-08-19, 3:31 am |
| theres tons of options
just type "clip in mod" for xbox in google.com
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| that worked well - google search for "clip in mod" returned a whopping 3
items - none of which had anything to do with my post but thanks for taking
the time.
"Ameilius" <ameilius@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> theres tons of options
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> just type "clip in mod" for xbox in google.com
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| Michael R [Xbox MVP] 2005-08-19, 8:33 pm |
| Thou shall not discuss any topic that could violate the Terms Of Use
Including any threads or posts regarding modifying the way your Xbox
operates. This including 'modding' and/or 'chipping' your Xbox or otherwise
altering the way it is intended to operate.
--
Michael Reiner
Xbox MVP / Xbox.com Moderator
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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| Kendrick Kerwin Chua 2005-08-19, 8:33 pm |
| In article <1124415039.f64f85921b946d8bb739d5578ec9a9d4@teranews>,
JDS <jdslater_nospam@mchsi.com> wrote:
quote:
>version 1 xbox - wanting a solderless chip and then what else do I need to
>do?
>
>suggestions?
Given that hardware prices are down now, and will be dropping even further
once the new console is released, I wouldn't go with a chip at all. I
would buy a second Xbox for use with Live, and do a TSOP flash on the
first Xbox. All the benefits of a mod chip without any hardware changes,
and it doesn't have the limitations of the soft mod. Of course, if you're
interested in the other benefits of having a chip (LCD display, support
for expansion bus, etc.) then the TSOP mod isn't for you.
-KKC, waiting for somebody to buy the license to turn Space Pirate Amazon
ninja Catgirl into a video game. Anybody but EA, please.
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--S.S.B. is the code name for America's daring, highly | kendrick @io .com
trained special mission force. Its purpose: to |
defend human freedom against al-Qaeda, a ruthless | Please don't use
terrorist organization determined to rule the world! | eBay. Ask me why.
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| Kendrick Kerwin Chua 2005-08-19, 8:33 pm |
| In article <D50C344C-9268-4F37-8BC0-EFAC870CB49E@microsoft.com>,
Michael R [Xbox MVP] <MichaelRXboxMVP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
quote:
>Thou shall not discuss any topic that could violate the Terms Of Use
>Including any threads or posts regarding modifying the way your Xbox
>operates. This including 'modding' and/or 'chipping' your Xbox or otherwise
>altering the way it is intended to operate.
I thought that the official word from Chris H. was that modding was fine,
but using a mod to cheat on Xbox Live was not?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...3fb9592c?hl=en&
Legally, I can use my Xbox as a warm footstool without any legal risk, and
the same applies to any use of the components inside (although not the
code.) Anybody who argues otherwise doesn't realize that there are many US
and international laws which supersede the Terms of Use document. And
there's also a clear line between discussing something which may be
illegal, and actually doing things which are illegal.
Yeah, we've heard it all before. It's my turn this week to take the
bullet. 
-KKC, who wonders if they could slap a Terms of Use contract on musical
instruments. "Any use of this guitar to play, in part or in whole, any
portion of the song 'Stairway to Heaven' will be punishable by death.
Buddhists will be likewise punished by rebirth into a lower social caste
or as a lower lifeform as warranted by the length of musical phrase
performed."
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--S.S.B. is the code name for America's daring, highly | kendrick @io .com
trained special mission force. Its purpose: to |
defend human freedom against al-Qaeda, a ruthless | Please don't use
terrorist organization determined to rule the world! | eBay. Ask me why.
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| Chris H. 2005-08-19, 8:33 pm |
| No, sorry. Modding an Xbox will result not only in not being able to play
on Xbox Live! but in violations of the various component product legitimacy.
If one wishes to violate agreements of use, I certainly cannot stop them.
And there's nothing "official" about what I say, I'm just a peer posting in
this newsgroup and don't work for Microsoft. What I said previously, for
those who don't bother to click the link you're citing, was:
+++++
I don't believe any of us are lawyers or judges here, so the issue will not
be resolved. Even if it were to be a consensus opinion either way here,
there would always be other people who want to fight the decision.
My whole thing is: Anyone can mod away if they want. Just don't cheat on
Xbox Live! If a mod on an Xbox invalidates the next 11 months of a paid
Live! subscription, tough cookies. If it costs someone their precious
gamertag, tough. Hopefully those who try to circumvent the system to cheat
will end up with that result.
=====
No one can stop someone from modding an Xbox, however, they're risking
invalidating their system. I suggest not doing it.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"Kendrick Kerwin Chua" <kendrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:-8KdnSxJwqxdQZjeRVn-pQ@io.com...
quote:
> In article <D50C344C-9268-4F37-8BC0-EFAC870CB49E@microsoft.com>,
> Michael R [Xbox MVP] <MichaelRXboxMVP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> I thought that the official word from Chris H. was that modding was fine,
> but using a mod to cheat on Xbox Live was not?
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group...3fb9592c?hl=en&
>
> Legally, I can use my Xbox as a warm footstool without any legal risk, and
> the same applies to any use of the components inside (although not the
> code.) Anybody who argues otherwise doesn't realize that there are many US
> and international laws which supersede the Terms of Use document. And
> there's also a clear line between discussing something which may be
> illegal, and actually doing things which are illegal.
>
> Yeah, we've heard it all before. It's my turn this week to take the
> bullet.
>
> -KKC, who wonders if they could slap a Terms of Use contract on musical
> instruments. "Any use of this guitar to play, in part or in whole, any
> portion of the song 'Stairway to Heaven' will be punishable by death.
> Buddhists will be likewise punished by rebirth into a lower social caste
> or as a lower lifeform as warranted by the length of musical phrase
> performed."
> --
> --S.S.B. is the code name for America's daring, highly | kendrick @io .com
> trained special mission force. Its purpose: to |
> defend human freedom against al-Qaeda, a ruthless | Please don't use
> terrorist organization determined to rule the world! | eBay. Ask me why.
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| Kendrick Kerwin Chua 2005-08-19, 8:33 pm |
| In article <ehJmtiNpFHA.1996@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>,
Chris H. <winxpnews@hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:
>No, sorry. Modding an Xbox will result not only in not being able to play
>on Xbox Live! but in violations of the various component product legitimacy.
>If one wishes to violate agreements of use, I certainly cannot stop them.
>And there's nothing "official" about what I say, I'm just a peer posting in
>this newsgroup and don't work for Microsoft.
While you're on that subject... How does the 'MVP' program work, anyway?
You're not technically an employee of Microsoft, but you put their name in
your signature file as part of a title that I don't understand the
significance of.
<snip>
quote:
>No one can stop someone from modding an Xbox, however, they're risking
>invalidating their system. I suggest not doing it.
This is why I suggest buying two. I have one Xbox for playing on Live, and
another set up with a TSOP mod running the Media Center and a Linux core
on CD (in case I don't feel like moving into the other room to start an
SSH session.) It only cost me an extra $100 for the previously-owned
hardware, and the original unit I had isn't invalidated in any way. When
people are paying between $50 and $150 dollars for a chip or for a modding
service, it seems like a reasonable and cost-effective alternative.
There is the usual argument against piracy, which we're all familiar with
and should be supporting. The developers, artists, musicians and actors
responsible for the games we play deserve to be compensated. And if you're
Electronic Arts, you have the additional expense of bribing people not to
file class-action lawsuits.
-KKC, waiting for EA to pull the stunt that Novell did in the 80's with
inflated charitable contribution numbers...
--
--S.S.B. is the code name for America's daring, highly | kendrick @io .com
trained special mission force. Its purpose: to |
defend human freedom against al-Qaeda, a ruthless | Please don't use
terrorist organization determined to rule the world! | eBay. Ask me why.
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| Chris H. 2005-08-19, 8:33 pm |
| The MVP program is an honorary award for past volunteer service to peers:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ We very definitely are not employees of
Microsoft. Many years ago, people helped me understand computers, and I've
spent years trying to repay that over the Internet while at the same time
asking people to "pay it forward." If I can help you with something you
don't know or can't do, you can do the same - without charge - for another
person with a skill you have.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"Kendrick Kerwin Chua" <kendrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:ovydnc5oXvTOlZveRVn-ig@io.com...
quote:
>
> While you're on that subject... How does the 'MVP' program work, anyway?
> You're not technically an employee of Microsoft, but you put their name in
> your signature file as part of a title that I don't understand the
> significance of.
>
> <snip>
>
> This is why I suggest buying two. I have one Xbox for playing on Live, and
> another set up with a TSOP mod running the Media Center and a Linux core
> on CD (in case I don't feel like moving into the other room to start an
> SSH session.) It only cost me an extra $100 for the previously-owned
> hardware, and the original unit I had isn't invalidated in any way. When
> people are paying between $50 and $150 dollars for a chip or for a modding
> service, it seems like a reasonable and cost-effective alternative.
>
> There is the usual argument against piracy, which we're all familiar with
> and should be supporting. The developers, artists, musicians and actors
> responsible for the games we play deserve to be compensated. And if you're
> Electronic Arts, you have the additional expense of bribing people not to
> file class-action lawsuits.
>
> -KKC, waiting for EA to pull the stunt that Novell did in the 80's with
> inflated charitable contribution numbers...
> --
> --S.S.B. is the code name for America's daring, highly | kendrick @io .com
> trained special mission force. Its purpose: to |
> defend human freedom against al-Qaeda, a ruthless | Please don't use
> terrorist organization determined to rule the world! | eBay. Ask me why.
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| David Parkes 2005-08-22, 8:36 pm |
| Video Game Piracy is a Crime, do not accept it demand a genuin Video Game
from you local store. Check whether this game carries the genuine holgram
logo. When in doubt, call Santa Cluse on 01242 Give me my god dam game
(Please) or in the case of the republic of Ireland 0136 give me ma game
tick'o (please).
Seriously though please think first about modding your xbox. Programers
spend years developing those games and go hungry. If you pirate a game then
you are only making those little programmers go without food and water and
they will then Die. Who will then write the games? I say who will write the
games then. Think of the children.
Oh by the way has anybody seen a screw, I had one loose a few days ago but I
think its fallen out. If you do find it can you please call me on 01345 Give
me my god dam screw back (please) or visite my web site www.goddamscrew.com
David
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| AshVsAOD 2005-09-12, 3:32 am |
| Mod chip != piracy
"David Parkes" <wibble@wobble.com> wrote in message
news:uZBkVsxpFHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
quote:
> Video Game Piracy is a Crime, do not accept it demand a genuin Video Game
> from you local store. Check whether this game carries the genuine holgram
> logo. When in doubt, call Santa Cluse on 01242 Give me my god dam game
> (Please) or in the case of the republic of Ireland 0136 give me ma game
> tick'o (please).
>
> Seriously though please think first about modding your xbox. Programers
> spend years developing those games and go hungry. If you pirate a game
then
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> you are only making those little programmers go without food and water and
> they will then Die. Who will then write the games? I say who will write
the
quote:
> games then. Think of the children.
>
> Oh by the way has anybody seen a screw, I had one loose a few days ago but
I
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> think its fallen out. If you do find it can you please call me on 01345
Give
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> me my god dam screw back (please) or visite my web site
www.goddamscrew.com
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> David
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