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| Doug Bell 2005-03-21, 4:21 am |
| Hi,
I am thinking about building a streaming media device and on initial
inspection either an XBox or a PS2 would seem to a reasonable platform.
I believe that Linux is available for the PS2.
Can anyone tell me what OS the XBox uses?
Wether there is a development language available for it like VB or VB Dot
Net?
IF not then is there an alternative OS available for it?
Thanks
Doug
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| Mike Brannigan [MSFT] 2005-03-21, 7:42 am |
| "Doug Bell" <dug@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> Hi,
> I am thinking about building a streaming media device and on initial
> inspection either an XBox or a PS2 would seem to a reasonable platform.
>
> I believe that Linux is available for the PS2.
> Can anyone tell me what OS the XBox uses?
> Wether there is a development language available for it like VB or VB Dot
> Net?
> IF not then is there an alternative OS available for it?
>
> Thanks
>
Doug,
Without getting drawn into this whole "you can with a mod chip" argument.
As it stands now - you cannot develop anything for an Xbox with the Xbox
SDK. This allows you to target the Xbox platform for primarily games
development.
You have made a fundamental mistake when assessing an Xbox as an appropriate
platform fo development. You asked the question what OS does the Xbox use -
the actual answer is none. When you build a game and execute it on an Xbox
there is actually no OS under the game. It "is" the OS.
So to answer your question - there is a development environment available to
developers and game studios/development houses.
see
http://www.xbox.com/en-us/dev/default.htm
Without modifying your Xbox it cannot run alternative operating systems.
Why not build your streaming media device on a platform such as Embedded XP
where there is a world of tools available etc ?
--
Regards,
Mike
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"Doug Bell" <dug@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> Hi,
> I am thinking about building a streaming media device and on initial
> inspection either an XBox or a PS2 would seem to a reasonable platform.
>
> I believe that Linux is available for the PS2.
> Can anyone tell me what OS the XBox uses?
> Wether there is a development language available for it like VB or VB Dot
> Net?
> IF not then is there an alternative OS available for it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Doug
>
>
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| Doug Bell wrote:
quote:
> Hi,
> I am thinking about building a streaming media device and on initial
> inspection either an XBox or a PS2 would seem to a reasonable platform.
>
> I believe that Linux is available for the PS2.
> Can anyone tell me what OS the XBox uses?
> Wether there is a development language available for it like VB or VB Dot
> Net?
> IF not then is there an alternative OS available for it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Doug
>
>
Not sure I completely understand your question, you want to setup a
frontend for playing MP3s/Videos/etc from a remote location from your
main computer without having to get another whole PC setup to do it. So
you're considering using an XBox or PS2?
There are some choices if you don't mind hacking up an xbox, and when I
say hack, I mean loading Linux onto the xbox, or putting a mod chip in
the xbox and loading up something like XBMC.
If you don't want to mod an xbox you might look into something like
MythTV (http://www.mythtv.org). MythTV is an open source TiVO like
system that has plugins to play just about anything from videos to dvds
and mame games.
Setup can be difficult as you'll have to setup your PC with Linux, your
XBox with Linux, then you use your PC as the MythTV backend (server),
and your XBox as your frontend (client). Nice thing about this setup is
Linux is free, MythTV is free, and you'll have to transfer all your
media to a new PC, I recommend DVD backups if you haven't already.
If you're just looking to write your own program and run it on an XBox,
you can sign-up to be an XBox developer, probably costs somewhere in the
neighborhood of $10,000 for a dev licence + an XDK, but that's to
develop games, doing media serving might be a bit of a challenge. The
Microsoft XBox Dev Kit uses .NET 2003 for development, C and C++ are the
main dev languages. A Development XBox would allow you to upload and run
programs from your PC to an Dev XBox.
You might also look into OpenXDK or OpenXbox (I forget what it's
called), it's an open development system for the XBox. Of course MS
doesn't support it, and you have to mod and xbox to run any of the
programs you write with it, but it's open source so it's free to
download. I believe it's just C right now, not sure if they have C++
implementation.
Last recommendation might be a software program like Music Maker for
XBox. it's a Microsoft Karaoke type program for xbox, comes with a
microphone and you can get it from EBX or whereever, As I understand it,
you can serve files from Windows XP with this program. It'll play back
music, not sure about videos, and I'm sure it's fairly restricted.
I personally have the MythTV setup, I love it, but it was a XXXXX to
setup. Thankfully there's a huge linux community who were happy to
answer any question I had. Nice thing about using the XBox for MythTV is
it's really quiet, and compaired to a PC, real cheap.
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| Andy wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Doug Bell wrote:
>
--<SNIP>--
OMG OMG OMG!
I just got in the shower and remembered that this was the
microsoft.puiblic group... Ahhh!
I'm so embarrassed, please don't flame me, I don't think my gmail
account can handle the spam!
I'm sorry Mr. Gates, I'll never hack your xbox again, (in all honesty I
don't have the MythTV system setup yet).
God you guys are gonna kill me.
A.
"Seriously embarrassed, where's the outlook recall for usenet?"
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| Dr Gordon Crowbar 2005-03-21, 6:32 pm |
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quote:
> "Seriously embarrassed, where's the outlook recall for usenet?"
And while you're at it: Where's the Outlook recall for MS Exchange???
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| Mike Brannigan [MSFT] 2005-03-21, 6:32 pm |
| "Dr Gordon Crowbar" <Justin@c.com> wrote in message
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quote:
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> And while you're at it: Where's the Outlook recall for MS Exchange???
It there in Outlook already.
Open the sent item you wish to recall and look at the Actions menu.
There you will see "Recall this message" and when you do you are given a
number of options.
You could have found this yourself in the built-in help.
--
Regards,
Mike
--
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"Dr Gordon Crowbar" <Justin@c.com> wrote in message
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> And while you're at it: Where's the Outlook recall for MS Exchange???
>
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| Doug Bell 2005-04-01, 4:53 am |
| Thanks Mike & Andy
It looked to be a good, cheap H/W platform with the necessary phtsical
ports.
Linux is too big a learning curve while trying to keep up with Dot Net etc
etc
I will look at other H/W options. (just a project for after work).
Doug
"Doug Bell" <dug@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> Hi,
> I am thinking about building a streaming media device and on initial
> inspection either an XBox or a PS2 would seem to a reasonable platform.
>
> I believe that Linux is available for the PS2.
> Can anyone tell me what OS the XBox uses?
> Wether there is a development language available for it like VB or VB Dot
> Net?
> IF not then is there an alternative OS available for it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Doug
>
>
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| Dr Gordon Crowbar 2005-04-13, 8:34 pm |
| Thanks for telling me what I know already, and assuming that the feature
actually works.
Recalling a message merely sends a recall email to the original recipient,
who is required to click on the new email, in order to recall the first. A
bit like telling the jury to disregard that last remark, rather than erasing
their memory.
*You* could have found this out by actually using the product.
"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> "Dr Gordon Crowbar" <Justin@c.com> wrote in message
> news:Q5ednYmgVbLgv6LfRVnyiQ@pipex.net...
>
> It there in Outlook already.
> Open the sent item you wish to recall and look at the Actions menu.
> There you will see "Recall this message" and when you do you are given a
> number of options.
> You could have found this yourself in the built-in help.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights
>
> Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
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> "Dr Gordon Crowbar" <Justin@c.com> wrote in message
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