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> Would there be a difference? Or can you just not get them?. I don't know,
> but the extender is basically a remote desktop connection into the MCE PC.
> I would think if you had a UK MCE with approriate tuners etc., the
> extender would just...extend it.
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>I have the USA version at the moment, and the dongle won't allow me to play
>UK DVDs on my UK Xbox, also other small problems like the date format is
>USA (MM/DD/YY) not UK (DD/MM/YY) etc.
>
> Just need to know the release date in the UK for MCXbox.
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>
> CJSnet
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> Any ideas guys?

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> Would there be a difference? Or can you just not get them?. I don't know,
> but the extender is basically a remote desktop connection into the MCE PC.
> I would think if you had a UK MCE with approriate tuners etc., the
> extender would just...extend it.

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> "Sven" <sejohannsen(at)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> US is 480/60i "NTSC", UK is 576/60i "PAL" - a UK XBox extender would
> ideally replay material recorded in 576/50i in that format - US extenders
> in use over here output a conversion to 480/60i I believe (reducing
> picture quality). They also don't cope well with 16:9 material AIUI
> (there isn't much SD 16:9 stuff received digitally in the US?) - which
> would be important in the UK where 16:9 MPEG2 broadcasts are received
> using DVB-T cards, and UK users would expect extenders to work properly
> with either 4:3 or 16:9 sets?
>
> Steve
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> I'm certainly not in a position to really discuss this technically,
> but those issues don't make much sense to me. If an X-box is set up
> to output to a UK TV via video and audio output, it's set up for UK
> standards.

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> Same would be true of a UK based MCE. All the extender
> would do is generate the UI, digitally, and get the content from the
> MCE, digitally, and output it via the hardware the X-Box already has.
> I wouldn't think the extender software would cause the X-Box to
> output NTSC when it is normally PAL. That's normally a hardware
> function isn't it?

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> In any case, I'm sure yawl (that's 'you all')
> have tried it and found issues. No way I can dispute that. Just
> doesn't make sense to me.

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>US is 480/60i "NTSC", UK is 576/60i "PAL" - a UK XBox extender would ideally
>replay material recorded in 576/50i in that format - US extenders in use
>over here output a conversion to 480/60i I believe (reducing picture
>quality). They also don't cope well with 16:9 material AIUI (there isn't
>much SD 16:9 stuff received digitally in the US?) - which would be important
>in the UK where 16:9 MPEG2 broadcasts are received using DVB-T cards, and UK
>users would expect extenders to work properly with either 4:3 or 16:9 sets?

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>Yep - but to get the current US Xbox Extender software to run I think you
>have to have a "modded" UK XBox (so it thinks it is running on a US box),
>and when you run the software it forces the Box into 480/60i (aka NTSC)
>output - haven't tried it myself - but from others posts this is the gist of
>what happens?

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>Well, it's a shame you don't get better support, anyway. I gotta believe it
>has something to do with international issues beyond just not wanting to
>sell you stuff. Pounds increase wealth same as Dollars (bit more right now
>actually). I know they cost more, but wondered if there are UK versions of
>the regular Linksys and HP extenders, or are you just SOL on those too.

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> No it doesn't. The TV format is a function of the Xbox hardware.
> A European PAL Xbox will never output NTSC just PAL.

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> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 18:59:53 -0700, "Sven" <sejohannsen(at)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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> The report that I saw was the MCX are not being released in Europe because
> of
> the more solid construction of European homes that makes wireless use of
> any MCX
> very unreliable.
>
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> Nigel Barker
> Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

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> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 21:33:49 -0000, "Stephen Neal"
> <stephen.neal@nospam.please.as-directed.com> wrote:
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> No it doesn't. The TV format is a function of the Xbox hardware. A
> European PAL Xbox will never output NTSC just PAL.

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> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 12:42:00 -0000, "Stephen Neal"
> <stephen.neal@nospam.as-directed.com> wrote:
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> The question was specifically about the Xbox Media Center Extender. A
> modded PAL Xbox runs the US/Canada Xbox MCX application perfectly
> fine & of course can output RGB. The picture quality is excellent.

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>Nigel Barker wrote:
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>My UK XBox happily outputs both - it isn't a hardware issue - the chips used
>in XBoxes can output NTSC or PAL, RGB or S-video. When running XBox Media
>Center on a modded box it can select PAL/50, NTSC/60, PAL/60 or automatic
>switching. I use RGB in the main, but have confirmed NTSC works.

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>Yep - but is it outputting a 625/50 (RGB or PAL) or a 525/60 (RGB, PAL/60 or
>NTSC) output?

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> I stand corrected. I wonder if that is just a function of PAL Xboxes?
> I somehow doubt that NTSC ones do PAL as well.

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> Yep - but is it outputting a 625/50 (RGB or PAL) or a 525/60 (RGB, PAL/60
> or NTSC) output?
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>When I had my Linksys Extender, I'm sure the TV did its "I'm flipping into
>NTSC now" screen blip. Not very scientific I know...