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opticreep@yahoo.com

2005-02-19, 6:11 pm

I'm at the point where I have control of the Ebon Hawk, and for the
first time I have the option of visiting several planets. So far I
have the T3 droid, Kreiah, the Handmaiden, Atton, and the weird guy who
keeps calling me "General".

What I'd like to know is: (no specific spoilers please)

1) If this game is anything like KOTOR1, then I know each character
will have his personal storyline intertwined with certain planets. And
by not bringin certain NPCs to certain planets, I'm gonna miss a lot of
the backstory.

2) I'd like to visit planets that'll give me new NPCs as soon as
possible. In KOTOR1, I ended up getting the old, black Jedi NPC near
the end of the game because I visited his planet last. On games like
this, I prefer to get new NPCs sooner rather than later.

3) My guy doesn't have a friggin' lightsabre yet! I want it real soon,
or else I'm gonna start chopping up stuff in real life. If visiting a
certain planet speeds up my acquisition of that weapon, then I'd like
to do that planet as early as I can.

So considering all these points... what order should I visit each of
the planets? Who should I bring to each planet? I just need some very
general advice; no specific spoilers please. TIA.

Dave

2005-02-19, 6:11 pm

In article <1108830399.568161.155790@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, opticreep@yahoo.com wrote:
quote:

>What I'd like to know is: (no specific spoilers please)


Okay, I'll try. And from the part I've deleted, you've done
Peragus and Telos and that's it. My suggestion...
quote:

>1) If this game is anything like KOTOR1, then I know each character
>will have his personal storyline intertwined with certain planets. And
>by not bringin certain NPCs to certain planets, I'm gonna miss a lot of
>the backstory.


No, at least not in my experience. Maybe I just missed them?
But no, I don't think it is like K1 where you should take Carth
to find out about Dustil, etc. But keep in mind that this game
now has the "influence" effect where your choices will either
result in positive or negative influence with those you are with.
Some like a more light-side approach, some dark. So choose
accordingly. Is that ambiguous enough? :-)
quote:

>2) I'd like to visit planets that'll give me new NPCs as soon as
>possible. In KOTOR1, I ended up getting the old, black Jedi NPC near
>the end of the game because I visited his planet last. On games like
>this, I prefer to get new NPCs sooner rather than later.


To gain the most companion NPC's, go to Nar Shadda next. But ...
quote:

>3) My guy doesn't have a friggin' lightsabre yet! I want it real soon,
>or else I'm gonna start chopping up stuff in real life. If visiting a
>certain planet speeds up my acquisition of that weapon, then I'd like
>to do that planet as early as I can.


Yeah, it takes even longer in this game than in K1. I *think* you
can get the LS whichever you go to next. So it might be that the
shorter the adventure, the quicker. Which would *not* be Nar
Shadda. Further, you get more crystals for your LS if you go to
Dantooine.

Given that I think that N-S is the best designed level, I would
suggest Dantooine next to get a more powerful LS, and quicker.
Then go to N-S for the best constructed part of the story.

I never tried going to Koriban after Telos. If you give it a try,
let me know how it goes :-)
Jonah Falcon

2005-02-20, 6:09 pm

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Wrong. Actually, you get it almost immediately. You just have to know where
to get the parts. However, you get it much much much faster than KOTOR1.

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"As soon as you leave Telos travel to Nar Shaddaa. Once there proceed into
the central area and find the zoning door to the Docks. Halfway across the
Docks will be a door that leads to the Flophouse. Go to the end of the
hallway of this flophouse and the second to last door has a guy named
Lootra. Taunt him into attacking. Also note that any characters you can have
in your party at this point will lose influence with you if they are with
you when you kill him, so go alone. His corpse will have a lightsaber part,
there is a quest that as a reward he gives this part to you but the dark
side gain is minimal even for lightside characters. Next if your alignment
bar is about 25% good or bad you can return to the Ebon Hawk for a special
fight which will get you the last lightsaber part. If you are not 25% good
or bad there are tons of things to do in Nar Shaddaa to get the last of the
points you need.(If you do not have a colored lightsaber crystal the
merchant Geeda will have one you can buy so don't scare her away) Now talk
to Bao-Dur to have your saber made."

Jonah Falcon


Dave

2005-02-20, 6:09 pm

In article <K%2Sd.1985$Ba3.236@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote:
quote:

>
>Wrong. Actually, you get it almost immediately. You just have to know where
>to get the parts. However, you get it much much much faster than KOTOR1.


Well, that means you have to play Peragus, Telos, and a good part
of the next planet to get your LS. Whereas in Kotor1, you get it
after Taris-part of Dantooine. Tell me how the former is "much
much faster"? I've played them through a few times, and it took
me about 17 hrs to get it in K2, 9 hrs in K1 (completing most all
sub-quests along the way. I presume you can do it faster in both
by ignoring quests).
Rump Ranger

2005-02-28, 6:17 pm


opticreep@yahoo.com wrote:
quote:

> I'm at the point where I have control of the Ebon Hawk, and for the
> first time I have the option of visiting several planets. So far I
> have the T3 droid, Kreiah, the Handmaiden, Atton, and the weird guy

who
quote:

> keeps calling me "General".
>
> What I'd like to know is: (no specific spoilers please)
>
> 1) If this game is anything like KOTOR1, then I know each character
> will have his personal storyline intertwined with certain planets.

And
quote:

> by not bringin certain NPCs to certain planets, I'm gonna miss a lot

of
quote:

> the backstory.
>


Not necessarily. Atton is a must on Nar Shadaa in the refugee sector
to at least gain the option to Jedify him, but the others aren't really
needed to advance back plots on specific planets. Although it helps to
have certain characters in certain areas to gain influence. In this
game, it's more or less what choices you make when a member is in your
party than specific planets.
quote:

> 2) I'd like to visit planets that'll give me new NPCs as soon as
> possible. In KOTOR1, I ended up getting the old, black Jedi NPC near
> the end of the game because I visited his planet last. On games like
> this, I prefer to get new NPCs sooner rather than later.
>


Then go to Nar Shadaa and you'll get three when you're done. You'll
get the last parts for HK-47, another droid (who sucks), and another
character depending on whether you're light side or dark side. If you
have already seen a cut scene you'll also get a chance for another jedi
character. The only other character you'll get lives on Onderon.
quote:

> 3) My guy doesn't have a friggin' lightsabre yet! I want it real

soon,
quote:

> or else I'm gonna start chopping up stuff in real life. If visiting

a
quote:

> certain planet speeds up my acquisition of that weapon, then I'd like
> to do that planet as early as I can.
>


I recomend either Nar Shadaa or Dantooine. You can get a part after a
certain cut scene (you'll know it when you see it because the game cuts
out after you gain a certain number of light or dark side points).
After that scene, go back to the Ebon Hawk and you'll get a quick
piece. On Nar Shadaa, you can get your third piece real quick.
quote:

> So considering all these points... what order should I visit each of
> the planets? Who should I bring to each planet? I just need some

very
quote:

> general advice; no specific spoilers please. TIA.


I'd visit Nar Shadaa first with Atton at least for the Refugee Sector.
Then Dantooine. Then do Onderon (the first part), then Korriban, then
back to Onderon.

Rump Ranger

2005-02-28, 6:17 pm


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> "As soon as you leave Telos travel to Nar Shaddaa. Once there proceed

into
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> the central area and find the zoning door to the Docks. Halfway

across the
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> Docks will be a door that leads to the Flophouse. Go to the end of

the
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> hallway of this flophouse and the second to last door has a guy named

quote:

> Lootra. Taunt him into attacking. Also note that any characters you

can have
quote:

> in your party at this point will lose influence with you if they are

with
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> you when you kill him, so go alone.


No, take Atton. You gain influence if you kill innocents with him
which is important if you want to turn him into a Jedi later.
quote:

>His corpse will have a lightsaber part,
> there is a quest that as a reward he gives this part to you but the

dark
quote:

> side gain is minimal even for lightside characters. Next if your

alignment
quote:

> bar is about 25% good or bad you can return to the Ebon Hawk for a

special
quote:

> fight which will get you the last lightsaber part. If you are not 25%

good
quote:

> or bad there are tons of things to do in Nar Shaddaa to get the last

of the
quote:

> points you need.(If you do not have a colored lightsaber crystal the
> merchant Geeda will have one you can buy so don't scare her away) Now

talk
quote:

> to Bao-Dur to have your saber made."
>


Rump Ranger

2005-02-28, 6:17 pm


Dave wrote:
quote:

> In article <1108830399.568161.155790@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

opticreep@yahoo.com wrote:
quote:

>
>
> Okay, I'll try. And from the part I've deleted, you've done
> Peragus and Telos and that's it. My suggestion...
>
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> No, at least not in my experience. Maybe I just missed them?
> But no, I don't think it is like K1 where you should take Carth
> to find out about Dustil, etc. But keep in mind that this game
> now has the "influence" effect where your choices will either
> result in positive or negative influence with those you are with.
> Some like a more light-side approach, some dark. So choose
> accordingly. Is that ambiguous enough? :-)
>
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> To gain the most companion NPC's, go to Nar Shadda next. But ...
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>
> Yeah, it takes even longer in this game than in K1. I *think* you
> can get the LS whichever you go to next.


I've never tried Korriban, but it's possible I guess because you do get
LS's if you've already got one.
quote:

>So it might be that the
> shorter the adventure, the quicker. Which would *not* be Nar
> Shadda.


Actually, you can get a LS *real* fast on Nar Shadaa. Here's how:

(spoilers for rest of post)
















Get enough Dark Side or Light Side points to get the cut scene with
Visas. Go back to Ebon Hawk, defeat her in single combat. You get
your second piece (you already have one from Telos no matter who you
sided with). Next, go up to the Nar Shadaa docks, go into flophouse,
and then kill Lootra (if you're dark side) or do the sidequest for his
wife so they reunite (which takes a longer time). Either way you do
it, you'll get your third piece before you have to go on Goto's ship.
Far faster than Dantooine because you have to pretty much do the entire
Jedi Enclave to get your third piece from Joran as well as still do
your thing on the Hawk with Visas. First time I did it, I went to
Dantooine and didn't realize Visas would be on the Hawk and gives a
part so I had to do the whole planet before I got my third piece.
Since I was dark side, that was hellish (Vrook is hardcore to fight
without you having a lightsaber).
quote:

> Further, you get more crystals for your LS if you go to
> Dantooine.
>
> Given that I think that N-S is the best designed level, I would
> suggest Dantooine next to get a more powerful LS, and quicker.
> Then go to N-S for the best constructed part of the story.
>


I still say Nar Shadaa is the best place first (Dantooine a second
because of the <yourname> crystal which is awesome). Onderon's also
pretty cool. Korriban sucks IMO.
quote:

> I never tried going to Koriban after Telos. If you give it a try,
> let me know how it goes :-)


It probably isn't so bad. Go to the Sith Academy, find Vash's body and
you get a part (because you get a saber for finding it). If you go all
the way back to the Hawk and beat Visas, you've got a saber. If you do
the cave, you probably get your last piece as well.

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