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| I take this as just a rumor, for now.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20034
Nvidia's NV50 canned
New things to come
By Fuad Abazovic: Friday 03 December 2004, 13:57
WE ARE told that Nvidia's next gen chip NV50 has been canned as well as the
NV48 chip we reported on earlier in the week. I guess both were not fitting
well into Nvidia's picture.
We don't have any idea as yet what lead to such a decision, but Nvidia does
apparently think it's now time to make its next breakthrough chip.
All we know is that Nvidia made a huge u-turn or a right turn in its roadmap
as Intel describes it, and we don't yet know where that leads.
We also know that Nvidia is very dedicated to win the graphic fight and to
move away from the deadly embrace with ATI. In the current generation, it's
not important what you get as both Nvidia and ATI cards are performing
almost identically.
Nvidia still strongly believes that SLI is something that will become very
important in the future. µ
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hmmm. Maybe Nvidia has seen ATI R520 and/or the more advanced R500 (for
Xbox 2?) and knows that ATI's next, next gen graphics part, the R600, will
be killer. the NV50 would have to be facing the R600 in the early 2006
timeframe. so maybe Nvidia is changing their roadmap. maybe Nvidia is
accelerating NV60 design. or will simply make what would be NV55, the NV50,
or whatever. remember both Nvidia and ATI have at least 3 GPU design teams
each and are always working on several generations of chips at the same
time.
Nvidia has, so far, been shut out of the nextgen game consoles. ATI has 2
of the 3 locked up (MS, Nintendo) and Sony has, so far, done their own
graphics in-house. Nvidia needs some breakout technology or breakout deal
(maybe Sony?) to follow-up the sucessful NV4x / GeForce 6x series.
It'll be fun to see what Nvidia does, they're a survivor. remember the
disasters that were NV1 (Diamond Edge 3D card) and NV2 (for Sega) in
1995-1996? they bounced back with Riva128 (NV3) and TNT (NV4) then TNT2
(NV5) and GeForce (NV10) very nicely.
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"Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com> wrote in message
news:fZednUTAuIIWoS_cRVn-gg@comcast.com...
quote:
>I take this as just a rumor, for now.
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20034
> Nvidia's NV50 canned
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If true it can only mean good things for us, if Nvidia can bring out an ATI
killer, ATI will kick back!, or could it be ATI are doing to Nvidia what
they did to 3DFX?, only time will tell!.
Eddy
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| HockeyTownUSA 2004-12-05, 9:47 am |
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<SNIP>
quote:
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> Nvidia still strongly believes that SLI is something that will become very
> important in the future. µ
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<SNIP>
quote:
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I agree with this, but only if the two cards are inexpensive enough for the
mass market to be able to buy two cards. The Voodoo 2 SLI was a great idea,
but it would only appeal to a select few due to the price. It wasn't until a
couple years later that more people invested in it because prices dropped
enough, but by that time there were single graphics card solutions that were
just a powerful.
I do hope SLI comes back in a more robust and affordable format. I mean
hell, I just spent $500 on a video card, why wouldn't I spend $300 x 2 for
something nearly twice as fast? But I'm not willing to spend $500 x 2. What
would be really nice is with PCI-E is to make it scaleable, so get better
performance by adding more cards. Of course why would you need 3 or 4 cards
when you can run at 1600x1200 max detail with two. But we've said it before,
and I'm sure we'll run into bottle necks again eventually. Parallel
processing never made a lot of sense due to the minimal performance
increase, unless you run apps or games specifically written to take
advantage of it. But SLI should work....
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| J. Clarke 2004-12-05, 5:48 pm |
| HockeyTownUSA wrote:
quote:
> <SNIP>
> <SNIP>
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> I agree with this, but only if the two cards are inexpensive enough for
> the mass market to be able to buy two cards. The Voodoo 2 SLI was a great
> idea, but it would only appeal to a select few due to the price. It wasn't
> until a couple years later that more people invested in it because prices
> dropped enough, but by that time there were single graphics card solutions
> that were just a powerful.
>
> I do hope SLI comes back in a more robust and affordable format. I mean
> hell, I just spent $500 on a video card, why wouldn't I spend $300 x 2 for
> something nearly twice as fast? But I'm not willing to spend $500 x 2.
> What would be really nice is with PCI-E is to make it scaleable, so get
> better performance by adding more cards. Of course why would you need 3 or
> 4 cards when you can run at 1600x1200 max detail with two. But we've said
> it before, and I'm sure we'll run into bottle necks again eventually.
> Parallel processing never made a lot of sense due to the minimal
> performance increase, unless you run apps or games specifically written to
> take advantage of it. But SLI should work....
I think you're going to find that you not only pay full boat for the video
boards but also pay a premium for a motherboard with the necessary slots.
And the performance doesn't look to be anything like 2X.
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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| John Lewis 2004-12-06, 5:48 pm |
| On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 16:39:09 -0600, "Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com>
wrote:
quote:
>I take this as just a rumor, for now.
>
>http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20034
>Nvidia's NV50 canned
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>New things to come
>
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>By Fuad Abazovic: Friday 03 December 2004, 13:57
>
Appropriate name, can be simply abbrieviated to FUD.....
quote:
>WE ARE told that Nvidia's next gen chip NV50 has been canned as well as the
>NV48 chip we reported on earlier in the week. I guess both were not fitting
>well into Nvidia's picture.
>We don't have any idea as yet what lead to such a decision, but Nvidia does
>apparently think it's now time to make its next breakthrough chip.
>
>All we know is that Nvidia made a huge u-turn or a right turn in its roadmap
>as Intel describes it, and we don't yet know where that leads.
>
>We also know that Nvidia is very dedicated to win the graphic fight and to
>move away from the deadly embrace with ATI. In the current generation, it's
>not important what you get as both Nvidia and ATI cards are performing
>almost identically.
DX9.0c vs DX9.0b. Yes, very obviously identical............
quote:
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>Nvidia still strongly believes that SLI is something that will become very
^^^
has
quote:
>important in the future. µ
^^^^^
present.
Obvious totally oblivious to the slew of SLI-enabled motherboard
announcements. And an interesting cross-license agreement between
nVidia and Intel, all terms of which have not been publicly announced.
quote:
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Yuk. Please pass me the Alka-Seltzer.........
Twit reporter.
The Inquirer ==== Tech "News of the World" (UK)
" National Enquirer (US)
== the tech news for morons.......
John Lewis
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