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EA NEXT-GEN MADDEN + NFS TEASERS
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" Jenson kicked off the presentation with a brief tease of what EA might be
able to produce with the technology offered by Sony and Microsoft's next
consoles. "Imagine that the characters in a football will be capable of
showing real emotion," he said, among other possibilities. "That's what's
going to be possible with the next generation of technology."
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3136966
heh, what EA *might* be able to produce with the technology offered by Sony
and Microsoft's next consoles.
.....might is the keyword there. I doubt that graphics will look that clean
next-gen. maybe that detailed, but without that much AA.
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Porche image..
"Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.1up.com/do/imageDisplay?id=1328794
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> " Jenson kicked off the presentation with a brief tease of what EA might
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> able to produce with the technology offered by Sony and Microsoft's next
> consoles. "Imagine that the characters in a football will be capable of
> showing real emotion," he said, among other possibilities. "That's what's
> going to be possible with the next generation of technology."
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> http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3136966
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> heh, what EA *might* be able to produce with the technology offered by
Sony
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> and Microsoft's next consoles.
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| > " Jenson kicked off the presentation with a brief tease of what EA might
be
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> able to produce with the technology offered by Sony and Microsoft's next
> consoles. "Imagine that the characters in a football will be capable of
> showing real emotion," he said, among other possibilities. "That's what's
> going to be possible with the next generation of technology."
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> http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3136966
....and so starts the hype campaign.
Personally, I don't see why there should be a big rush for new consoles.
Now that the current consoles have reached maturity (and developers have
become experienced and intimate with their hardware), really good games are
finally streaming out on a regular basis. Once new consoles are released,
the same pattern starts all over again.
New hardware isn't needed for better gameplay. New hardware is simply about
graphics. You can talk about polygons and Gflops all you want, but can
graphics really be a substantial improvement over current consoles in
standard definition? Definition is the limiting factor now. I'd rather
wait another several years until it would be viable for Sony/MS/Nintendo to
fully embrace high definition.
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| Xenon 2004-12-04, 12:47 am |
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> "but can graphics really be a substantial improvement over current
consoles in standard definition?"
yes they can.
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>"Definition is the limiting factor now."
No, it's not.
you could still have massively improved graphics on standard definition TV.
watch VHS versions Toy Story,
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within or any CG movie on a 20 year old VCR on a
20 year old television. you would see vastly superior visuals compared to
the best console games on HDTV or even the best PC games played at max
resolution.
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>"I'd rather wait another several years until it would be viable for
Sony/MS/Nintendo to
fully embrace high definition."
PS3, Revolution and Xbox Next will all embrace HD. 720p is going to be
natively supported. it's reported to be a requirement of all Xbox Next
games, the earliest of the new consoles.
but it not about the resolution, it's about the complexity and quality of
the graphics.
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| > PS3, Revolution and Xbox Next will all embrace HD. 720p is going to be
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> natively supported. it's reported to be a requirement of all Xbox Next
> games, the earliest of the new consoles.
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> but it not about the resolution, it's about the complexity and quality of
> the graphics.
re: Toystory -- I seem to recall before the release of the PS2 the media
hype campaign saying that the PS2 will give "Toy Story" graphics.
Wouldn't it make more sense to natively support 1080i? 720p will neglect
many HDTV owners, as most CRT HDTV's natively can only display 480i, 480p,
and 1080i. Many can translate 720p (including my HDTV) up to 1080i or down
to 480p, but much is lost in the translation.
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| "Eric" <none@nospam.not> wrote in message
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> re: Toystory -- I seem to recall before the release of the PS2 the media
> hype campaign saying that the PS2 will give "Toy Story" graphics.
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> Wouldn't it make more sense to natively support 1080i? 720p will neglect
> many HDTV owners, as most CRT HDTV's natively can only display 480i, 480p,
> and 1080i. Many can translate 720p (including my HDTV) up to 1080i or
> down
> to 480p, but much is lost in the translation.
1080i is a higher resolution, more pixels = more processing power. I'd fault
the TVs for not properly supporting the full HDTV specs before I'd try and
push next-gen consoles beyond their limits and ruin in-game performance.
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figmentPez
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> 1080i is a higher resolution, more pixels = more processing power. I'd
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> the TVs for not properly supporting the full HDTV specs before I'd try and
> push next-gen consoles beyond their limits and ruin in-game performance.
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Thats why I'm willing to wait a little longer for new consoles -- until
manufacturers are capable (and viable) of producing consoles that can take
advantage of all HDTV users. 720p is a problem for many HDTV users, while
1080i isn't. The whole issue of interlaced video motion artificating is a
good point, but 1080i artifacts are nothing compared to 480i. HD is still
in chaos now anyway. What I'd love to see is (not expecting this for next
generation consoles, but perhaps PS4/Xbox3?) is 1080p fully embraced by
HDTV, broadcasters, STB's, HD-DVD (or BluRay), digital video cameras,
consoles, etc! 2010?
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