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> Welp, it's here. I've seen a glitch in movement from someone the other

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> and someone who had super-mega shields tonite + some type of aim bot or
> extra damage. Perhaps the first was a bit of lag, but the second was
> definately real--when he shot you it felt differently in the controller

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> had a 'clicking' sound. I was giving this guy all types of props because

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> thought he just had great aim (he always used pistols or sniper) and great
> technique--and he did have good tactics and knew what you need to know to
> survive Halo2 multiplayer (knowing the maps, knowing how to move, and
> knowing what weapon to use for the conditions), but something was wrong

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> how 'glitched' things got when you got near him.
>
> I started to smell a rat when after obviously having had his shields
> depleated by a now-dead opponent, I rolled in behind him and popped him at
> 'zero' range w/ the shotgun and did a melee. He was still alive and
> proceeded to kill me again =] I didn't say anything, and I really only
> thought I was merely too stoned but another player who happens to be

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> top-tier on xbc blurted it out as soon as we hit the lobby after one game.
> He had the same expirence as I did but I don't think he noticed the
> weirdness in the vibration in the controller as he would shoot you. XBC

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> fun, and I hope it'l still be fun after this, but I would hate to go back

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> "Live!" for a while just because halo2... >=7
>
>
> Dr.z3n
>
>

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>i dont use XBC, do you use usenames? if so, perhaps list his username so
> everyone is aware of this cheat, cause it sounds like he is cheating.
>

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> Welp, it's here. I've seen a glitch in movement from someone the other
> day and someone who had super-mega shields tonite + some type of aim bot
> or extra damage. Perhaps the first was a bit of lag, but the second was
> definately real--when he shot you it felt differently in the controller
> and had a 'clicking' sound. I was giving this guy all types of props
> because I thought he just had great aim (he always used pistols or sniper)
> and great technique--and he did have good tactics and knew what you need
> to know to survive Halo2 multiplayer (knowing the maps, knowing how to
> move, and knowing what weapon to use for the conditions), but something
> was wrong with how 'glitched' things got when you got near him.
>
> I started to smell a rat when after obviously having had his shields
> depleated by a now-dead opponent, I rolled in behind him and popped him at
> 'zero' range w/ the shotgun and did a melee. He was still alive and
> proceeded to kill me again =] I didn't say anything, and I really only
> thought I was merely too stoned but another player who happens to be
> pretty top-tier on xbc blurted it out as soon as we hit the lobby after
> one game. He had the same expirence as I did but I don't think he noticed
> the weirdness in the vibration in the controller as he would shoot you.
> XBC is fun, and I hope it'l still be fun after this, but I would hate to
> go back to "Live!" for a while just because halo2... >=7
>

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>
> Bummer... Maybe the guy works for Bungie, and you guys were spanking him
> to the point that he pulled out his "special build"...
>
>
>

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>
> "xTenn" <xTennRemovePart@tds.net> wrote in message
> news:e96MzXI2EHA.2112@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Well, it looks as though I may have made a mistake. I tried the exact
> methods the guy was using and I've been completely *dominating* ever
> since. I still have a problem with the amount of damage he seemed to take,
> but I'd be more willing to chalk that up to lag than to cheating.
>
> Dr.z3n
>

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> Welp, it's here. I've seen a glitch in movement from someone the other

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> and someone who had super-mega shields tonite + some type of aim bot or
> extra damage. Perhaps the first was a bit of lag, but the second was
> definately real--when he shot you it felt differently in the controller

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> had a 'clicking' sound. I was giving this guy all types of props because

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> thought he just had great aim (he always used pistols or sniper) and great
> technique--and he did have good tactics and knew what you need to know to
> survive Halo2 multiplayer (knowing the maps, knowing how to move, and
> knowing what weapon to use for the conditions), but something was wrong

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> how 'glitched' things got when you got near him.
>
> I started to smell a rat when after obviously having had his shields
> depleated by a now-dead opponent, I rolled in behind him and popped him at
> 'zero' range w/ the shotgun and did a melee. He was still alive and
> proceeded to kill me again =] I didn't say anything, and I really only
> thought I was merely too stoned but another player who happens to be

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> top-tier on xbc blurted it out as soon as we hit the lobby after one game.
> He had the same expirence as I did but I don't think he noticed the
> weirdness in the vibration in the controller as he would shoot you. XBC

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> fun, and I hope it'l still be fun after this, but I would hate to go back

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> "Live!" for a while just because halo2... >=7
>
>
> Dr.z3n
>
>

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> What is XBC and how is it different from Live?
>
>
> "Dr.z3n" <dr.z3n@phr-z3n.com> wrote in message
> news:ekcm9DE2EHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> day
> and
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> to
>
>

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> its a "tunneling" program you load through your pc and connect your box to
> the gaming would this program. yes, you need a pc and networked to your

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> www.xbconnect.com
>
>
>
> "Dave" <daverreth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ePFXD7P2EHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
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> game.
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> back
>
>

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> What methods were those? I want to improve.

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> oh and its free
>

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> oh and its free
>
>
>
> "Adam" <adam.anderson@ozonline.com.au> wrote in message
> news:ujIYpGQ2EHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
to[vbcol=seagreen]
> box.
> other
> or
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> wrong
> him
> only
> XBC
>
>

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> How is the overall gaming experience of this compared to Xbox Live? Are
> there many missing features?

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> "Dave" <daverreth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eRRDy$W2EHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
> No cheat protection. 8-) Any modded Xbox with modified stuff can play on
> it. I know what we'll do today, let's race with our cars in PGR2 that go
> from 0-160 in 0.5 seconds.
>
> No voice.
>
> No unified friends list.
>
> Etc, etc.

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> "Dave" <daverreth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eRRDy$W2EHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
> No cheat protection. 8-) Any modded Xbox with modified stuff can play on
> it. I know what we'll do today, let's race with our cars in PGR2 that go
> from 0-160 in 0.5 seconds.

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> How is the overall gaming experience of this compared to Xbox Live? Are
> there many missing features?
>
>

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> Dude, if you talked more out of your XXX, you'd have to cut a hole in your
> pants and walk on your hands, seriously. Sit down!

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>
> "Dave" <daverreth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eRRDy$W2EHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>
> I spent about 45 minutes with H2 on XBL and I would say they're almost
> identical. XBL obviously has better ping detection to not let goobers
> serve.
>
> Live! pros: "controlled" environment, more noobs, no question as to
> cheating, better quality controls for hosts, and better interface (no PC
> needed, etc).
>
> XBC pros: free, more mature gamers, better quality of opponent, very

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> voice masking, and I may catch hell for this, but all other things being
> equal, I liked XBC.
>
> The quality is a night/day difference between what you could get out of H1
> and what you can get from H2.
>
> Dr.z3n
>
>

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>
> Anyone who even attempts to put LAN gaming over the internet (the very
> idea seems silly) in the same league as Xbox Live is the one talking out
> of their you know what.

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> how is the quality better between h1 and h2? because h1 was never intended
> to be played online?

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>
> "Dave" <daverreth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23TtfXTZ2EHA.2824@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
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>
>
> My uneducated (except in the end-result) guess is that the amount of data
> for a LAN and a Live! game are nearly identical. In H1, there was lag any
> time you got over 2 boxes connected, and when there was lag, your

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> pretty much won't move. In H2, I've seen 5-xbox player matches with 12
> players and zero noticable lag. Even so, when there is lag, there's the
> normal weirdness--but you can at least move.
>
> Dr.z3n
>
>

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>
> "Dave" <daverreth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23TtfXTZ2EHA.2824@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
>
> My uneducated (except in the end-result) guess is that the amount of data
> for a LAN and a Live! game are nearly identical. In H1, there was lag any
> time you got over 2 boxes connected, and when there was lag, your
> character pretty much won't move. In H2, I've seen 5-xbox player matches
> with 12 players and zero noticable lag. Even so, when there is lag,
> there's the normal weirdness--but you can at least move.

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>
> Twice now I've had 3 Xboxes hooked up via hub/Ethernet cables, 12 players,
> no lag whatsoever. Once with Halo and once with H2.
>
> My uneducated guess would be that if there is lag over System Link it is
> due to a bad cable, hub, or connector.
>

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>
>
> My uneducated (except in the end-result) guess is that the amount of data
> for a LAN and a Live! game are nearly identical.

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>
> "Dr.z3n" <dr.z3n@phr-z3n.com> wrote in message
> news:uMZTg7c2EHA.924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I had expected that to be the case, and it is satisfying to hear someone
> confirm it. After all, why change game mechanics that much as far the
> token
> information is concerned between system link and online
>

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>
> "asd" <judfsdasfml@mobile.com> wrote in message
> news:AkSrd.181874$HA.6718@attbi_s01...
>
> I did best when I took these steps:
>
> *Learn the proper distances for different weapons such as:
>
> Know what you're going to do when it's "on" (ie: if you're in tight quarters
> and have a shotgun, be ready to close quickly and plat it in your opponent's
> stomach, if you're in the wide open, better grenade and cover an escape).
> Seriously, be thinking "I have the energy sword and I'm in tight
> quarters--kill anything that movies" and you'll be ready to act on
> impulse--alot of it is about the 'draw'--be a warrior and lean forward.
> Still, when you have, say a pistol and an smg and the other guy has a
> shotgun, don't let him close on you and (see beginning of paragraph). When
> you have same pistol and smg and opponent has a BR, you want to close on him
> quickly if possible. Obviously, the plasma pistol works well when
> supercharged to bring down shields.
>
> Be aware of the map, spawn-times for powerups, different tactics (don't
> hesitate to run away if the alternative is you getting blown away for-sure)
>
> When your shields are down, that horrible beeping will last forever as you
> try to cover your escape, when you are pursuing an opponent whose shields
> are down, he will power up faster than you think kill him
> super-happy-fun-quick.
>
> Needler is good against AI but only in very few situations against
> fast-moving humans. Only use if you have cover and outside smg distance and
> opponent is in the wide-open.
>
> I'd rather have grenades than duel-wield a bad combination for conditions
> (like having smg/grenades in the open field of coagulation)
>
> There are more, but I don't wanna understress the importance of these.
>
>
> Dr.z3n
>
> PS The guy with the rocket-launcher is beatable, the one with the
> energy-sword isn't unless you have the flank.
>
>
>
>

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> In article <ePGC9fR2EHA.304@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>, dr.z3n@phr-z3n.com
> says...
> --
> G(igantic) T(ackle): atavaX

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>
> <I Won't>; "But Me Mate Will" <k@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c219519eb746fbd9896a1@News.individual.net...
>
> Thanks, upon reading that one again, I have a correction to make on the
> energy sword:
>
> If you have a shotgun, you can defeat an energy sword as long as

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> aren't laggy. The look on someone's face after you fill them full of 8Ga.
> when they've been running rough-shod picking up points w/ the energy

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> Priceless.
>
> Dr.z3n
>
>

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>
>
> Yep, gotta love the shotgun, and the rocket launcher does the trick as
> well.
> Although I've taking myself out a couple of times standing too close.
>