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new Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion stuff
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| Michael Vondung 2004-10-22, 5:47 pm |
| CJ wrote:
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> Looks like I won't have to download a "better faces" mod for this one! ;)
At the price of having to purchase a highend video card or a console. ;)
M.
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| Gandalf Parker 2004-10-22, 5:47 pm |
| "Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com> wrote in news:TeKdncO2YNhU_-TcRVn-
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> looks good doesn't it?
Very pretty. But the article makes it sound like they are moving farther
away from what I liked in Daggerfall. I will be keeping an eye articles
though.
Gandalf Parker
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| Mark Morrison 2004-10-22, 5:47 pm |
| On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com>
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>announced for PC, Xbox2 and likely but unconfirmed for PS3
Excellent news - and I'm glad that its' already got 2 year's worth of
work into it - means less time until it hits the shelves. 
Looks like I'll wait until the specs are announced before upgrading...
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| Jim Vieira 2004-10-23, 12:47 am |
| The landscape looks considerably less dreary than Morrowind,
that is for sure.
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| Paul Smith 2004-10-23, 12:47 am |
| "Jim Vieira" <WhiplashrAT@wiDOT.rrDOT.com> wrote in message
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> The landscape looks considerably less dreary than Morrowind,
> that is for sure.
Well it would do, it's set in Cyrodiil, which by the old (pre-now) lore is
mostly Jungle, although it looks like they've changed that a little bit.
Morrowind was set on Vvardenfell, which is basically just a volcanic island,
so that's why that was so grey and depressing. 8-)
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| Bob Perez 2004-10-23, 12:47 am |
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"Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com> wrote in message
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> looks good doesn't it?
OMG those screenshots are gorgeous, and quite an upgrade to the Morrowind
look. I'll be keeping an eye on this one and looking to hear more about the
gameplay.
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Bob Perez
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quit playing."
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| Tashfeen Bhimdi 2004-10-23, 5:47 pm |
| >I really want this game to be awesome..
I really hope they got rid of the Morrowind skill/level system though.
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| Maddog 2004-10-23, 5:47 pm |
| Tashfeen Bhimdi wrote:
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> I really hope they got rid of the Morrowind skill/level system though.
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Why?
The skill system is way better than a class based system. Skills allow
one to create a flexible character. Adaptability is the key.
Class based systems lock you into doing things one way.
I suspect that among RPG players it's probably a 75/25 split for
char/skill based preference. Puts me in the minority because I prefer
skill based systems.
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| Union Kane 2004-10-23, 5:47 pm |
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"Mark Morrison" <drdpikeuk@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com>
> wrote:
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> Excellent news - and I'm glad that its' already got 2 year's worth of
> work into it - means less time until it hits the shelves.
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> Looks like I'll wait until the specs are announced before upgrading...
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> Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes !
> They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses !
> And what's with all the carrots ?
> What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ?
> Bunnies ! Bunnies ! It must be BUNNIES !
It would be so awesome if this game was an Xbox 2 launch title.
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| toolstech 2004-10-23, 5:47 pm |
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"Maddog" <nunya@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Tashfeen Bhimdi wrote:
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> Why?
> The skill system is way better than a class based system. Skills allow one
> to create a flexible character. Adaptability is the key.
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> Class based systems lock you into doing things one way.
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> I suspect that among RPG players it's probably a 75/25 split for
> char/skill based preference. Puts me in the minority because I prefer
> skill based systems.
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The primary complaint that most people have against Daggerfall and
Morrowind's skill systems is that it is just too easy to level up the
character without actually 'playing' the game. Throw fireball after
fireball at the wall in the safety of town, jump up and down when running
around town, or just go to the trainer and buy a few levels.
It's a system that lends itself to abuse. It doesn't "have" to be abused,
but the temptation is there, and strong. It's a perception kind of thing,
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| Paul Smith 2004-10-23, 5:47 pm |
| "mace" <mmace@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Hell yeah, althought you'd have to be lobotomized to go over half way thru
> of the MW...
Once you got to know the place Morrowind was just too small. 8-)
Daggerfall was 166,420 square kilometres ie about 75% the size of Britain.
Morrowind was just a tiny say 25 square kilometres. 8-)
With the random terrain generator it should be very easy to quickly put
together vast areas which modders are going to love.
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| Bill Seurer 2004-10-24, 12:46 am |
| Paul Smith wrote:
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> Daggerfall was 166,420 square kilometres ie about 75% the size of Britain.
> Morrowind was just a tiny say 25 square kilometres. 8-)
But there was NOTHING THERE in Daggerfall except random monsters.
Nothing. Everything of interest was on your map (or eventually would be
on it) and you could just "warp" right to it. There was no reason to
wander the countryside at all so its size was utterly meaningless.
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-Bill
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| Paul Smith 2004-10-24, 12:46 am |
| "Bill Seurer" <Bill@seurer.net> wrote in message
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> But there was NOTHING THERE in Daggerfall except random monsters. Nothing.
> Everything of interest was on your map (or eventually would be on it) and
> you could just "warp" right to it. There was no reason to wander the
> countryside at all so its size was utterly meaningless.
True, but kudos to anyone who went through the whole game without clicking
on their maps. ;-)
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| the flying dutchman 2004-10-24, 12:46 am |
| On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:57:34 +0100, during a voyage through the cold
waters of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, i happened upon the crew of "Paul
Smith" <Paul@nospam.demon.co.uk>:
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>"Bill Seurer" <Bill@seurer.net> wrote in message
>news:cleic712qvh@enews4.newsguy.com...
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>True, but kudos to anyone who went through the whole game without clicking
>on their maps. ;-)
I don't believe it!
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| Gerry Quinn 2004-10-25, 9:46 am |
| In article <cleic712qvh@enews4.newsguy.com>, Bill@seurer.net says...
quote:
> Paul Smith wrote:
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> But there was NOTHING THERE in Daggerfall except random monsters.
> Nothing. Everything of interest was on your map (or eventually would be
> on it) and you could just "warp" right to it. There was no reason to
> wander the countryside at all so its size was utterly meaningless.
There was a good reason - it was pretty! I often took my horse out for a
gallop.
- Gerry Quinn
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| K. Laisathit 2004-10-28, 12:48 am |
| Maddog <nunya@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:<417A7F6D.3000107@nowhere.com>...
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> Why?
> The skill system is way better than a class based system. Skills allow
> one to create a flexible character. Adaptability is the key.
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> Class based systems lock you into doing things one way.
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> I suspect that among RPG players it's probably a 75/25 split for
> char/skill based preference. Puts me in the minority because I prefer
> skill based systems.
Nah... class/skill based, who cares. If the title gets all
the elements right, any system could work. BioWare made BG
work despite the archaic AD&D system. I too prefer skill-based
myself as you have greater freedom with how you develop the
character.
Anyway, I'm suspecting that the original poster might be
thinking along the line of 10 minor/major sp gains equals
a level. When you come to think of, that is rather unusual.
Don't see why that feature should be all that offensive.
Later...
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| Christopher Southworth 2004-10-29, 12:47 am |
| For that matter, the system in "Planescape: Torment" was using the AD&D
rules and it came together beautifully. Alas, no more "Torment"... It's a
shame that the true risk-takers have to be overshadowed by more pedestrian
fare, isn't it? I loved "Redguard" for the PC, and most of the "Elder
Scrolls" titles have been excellent, but in my mind, they are among the
exceptions to the rule of rather dull AD&D style play that most RPGs tend to
favour. I have been aching for a truly innovative RPG for a good while now.
Any suggestions of a way to break from the norm? I've heard that "Beyond
Good and Evil" is good...
"K. Laisathit" <kirati_lai@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Maddog <nunya@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:<417A7F6D.3000107@nowhere.com>...
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> Nah... class/skill based, who cares. If the title gets all
> the elements right, any system could work. BioWare made BG
> work despite the archaic AD&D system. I too prefer skill-based
> myself as you have greater freedom with how you develop the
> character.
>
> Anyway, I'm suspecting that the original poster might be
> thinking along the line of 10 minor/major sp gains equals
> a level. When you come to think of, that is rather unusual.
> Don't see why that feature should be all that offensive.
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> Later...
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