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> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, "Stephen Craft" wrote:
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> first let me tell you the main reason i'm here is to exchange ideas
> with others gamers like yourself, that's what i like and what i want
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> fell free to ask anything!
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> and btw, many in this group only have as mission discredit myself so
> don't pay any attention to them
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> yes, they are by taking away all kind of choice in the pc game market
> they want to monopolize the way you buy pc games
> you will only be able to buy pc games in one way, in one place, only
> from them and killing the very useful retail channel
> they want to monopolize the way you play pc games
> you will only be able to play pc games in one way, using steam and
> having control over you and your gaming habits
> they want to monopolize the way you patch pc games
> you will only be able to patch pc games in one way, using steam and
> only via the internet, again having total control over you
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> steam is pure monopoly
> steam is monopoly at its best!
> with steam you don't have any kind of choice, none!
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> with steam its not relevant, valve are the developers and publisher
> they are everything
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> like i told you its not relevant cause valve with steam is at the same
> time, developers, publisher, distributor... so that's not the point
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> i will not accept the margin excuse for steam
> sorry i will not
> i already discuss this will other gamers in this group and i will not
> accept that excuse
> steam is way too damaging! way too intrusive for you or valve or any
> other excusing it with the margins a publisher takes in pc games
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> a developer has to know how to negotiate margins with the publisher
> in everything in life you must know how to negotiate
> and btw the publisher has an essential role in pc games! essential!
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> if valve wants more profits from their games, be their own publisher
> in retail, which is the issue... in steam they are their own but in
> retail they are not
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> yes! like i told you before valve with steam is trying to create a
> monopoly in the pc game market by:
> killing the retail channel, which is the best one for pc games and
> the one with the most competition and the best pricing for us
> and making you be totally controlled to buy, install, play pc games
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> retail channel has flaws like everything but its still and will be
> always be best for defending competition in the pc game market for
> defending pc games as package box cd/dvd physical products and too
> give pc gamers choice and freedom as consumers!
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> please fell free to ask me anything!
> i'm someone who cares for pc games, who cares for fellow pc gamers!
> i also think steam sucks and must be stoped so our rights as consumers
> are protected!
> if we unit we can beat valve and steam!
> look at me as a friend as a fellow pc gamer!
> my agenda is only keep being a pc gamer and buying and play pc games!
> that's the only thing i want... i swear!
> my motivation is only and purely pc games!
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> post made in a steam-free computer
> i said "NO" to valve and steam
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> against steam campaign
> http://nosteam.afterdarknet.at/
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> steamwatch - independent observatory about steam
> http://www.steamwatch.org/
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> please sign petition "Say NO! to Steam!" available at:
> http://www.petitiononline.com/nosteam/petition.html