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> I'm a newbie to console gaming, after being a casual PC gamer for several
> years. I've been a fan of FPS-shooters such as Medal of Honor: Allied
> Assault, Call of Duty, and even fragfests like Quake3.
>
> Got a Xbox console a few weeks ago. I'm lovin sports games like Madden,
> action games like X-men:Legends, and fight-fests like Mortal Combat.
>
> I tried Halo2 for several hours and I just don't like it. After
> playing this, and also trying MoH:Spearhead on the Gamecube, I've come to
> believe that a console FPS game just doesn't work. Aiming is choppy and
> non-intuitive.
>
> If this is supposed to be the "killer app" for Xbox, like some reviewers
> have said, then I don't get it. I don't get the popularity of it either.
>
> Comments?
>
>

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> I'm a newbie to console gaming, after being a casual PC gamer for several
> years. I've been a fan of FPS-shooters such as Medal of Honor: Allied
> Assault, Call of Duty, and even fragfests like Quake3.
>
> Got a Xbox console a few weeks ago. I'm lovin sports games like Madden,
> action games like X-men:Legends, and fight-fests like Mortal Combat.
>
> I tried Halo2 for several hours and I just don't like it. After
> playing this, and also trying MoH:Spearhead on the Gamecube, I've come to
> believe that a console FPS game just doesn't work. Aiming is choppy and
> non-intuitive.
>
> If this is supposed to be the "killer app" for Xbox, like some reviewers
> have said, then I don't get it. I don't get the popularity of it either.
>
> Comments?
>

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> believe that a console FPS game just doesn't work. Aiming is choppy
> and non-intuitive.

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> If this is supposed to be the "killer app" for Xbox, like some
> reviewers have said, then I don't get it. I don't get the popularity
> of it either.
>
> Comments?

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> PGG said
>
>
>
> That's just you sucking.
>
>
> Halo is revolution for CONSOLE FPSs. Anyone who's been playing PC ones
> for a while won't be impressed.
>
>
> --
> The Kitchen Sink
> http://bellsouthpwp.net/g/m/gmagnus/

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>PGG <pa_paSPAAMgordygrapes@NO_SP_A_Myahoo.com> wrote in
>news:pan.2004.11.14.06.48.00.624000@NO_SP_A_Myahoo.com:
>

Which is the sort of thing that consoles are made for as they
are designed as home arcade game units.
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I find the PC just a little too easy to aim with and then
there are the cheats :P On the PC, I can achieve some very impressive
kill rates, I have Max Payne on the XB and PC and was like the
Terminator on the PC. Though the matrix mod for the game was just the
best ever!
[vbcol=seagreen]

I am really enjoying it and prefer my XB to my PC for gaming.
YMMV.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>You have reached the heart of the matter - Consoles are for people either too
>poor to afford a desent computer, and/or too lazy and dim witted to handle
>more than 2 or 3 commands at a time.

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>They are intimidated at the thought of using their keyboard for anything else
>but their homework and yahoo cyber, and break out into a cold sweat at the
>sight on an instruction manual more than 3 pages long.
>Pure and simple.

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>A 3rd category of people,which I fall into and I suspect you also, are those
>who have a bit of money to burn,are gadget feinds and want something around
>the spare TV to amuse them occasionally.

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> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:24:40 GMT, Jesse <org@org.orgy> wrote:
>
>
> Which is the sort of thing that consoles are made for as they
> are designed as home arcade game units.
>
>
> I find the PC just a little too easy to aim with and then
> there are the cheats :P On the PC, I can achieve some very impressive
> kill rates, I have Max Payne on the XB and PC and was like the
> Terminator on the PC. Though the matrix mod for the game was just the
> best ever!
>
>
> I am really enjoying it and prefer my XB to my PC for gaming.
> YMMV.
>
>
> I will admit that having a XB was a cheap way to play quality
> games as I couldn't be bothered to upgrade my PC for several years.
> As for your further comments, apples and pears are PCs and consoles.
>
>
> Ha! Your trolling is pathetic, any good compie knows that you
> dont need no stinking manual!

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>
>
> Your point is what?

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> My modded XB plays dozens of games,
> classic and modern and acts as my media centre and divx player. Beats
> using my PC and it is all in one convenient case.
>

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> Sorry but I think you both nuts, Halo2 is the BEST FPS over anything.
>

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> "God Magnus" <g@mg.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns95A125D6F113Cgmag@216.77.188.18...
>
>
>
> Sorry but I think you both nuts, Halo2 is the BEST FPS over anything.
>
>

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>
> "PGG" <pa_paSPAAMgordygrapes@NO_SP_A_Myahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.11.14.06.48.00.624000@NO_SP_A_Myahoo.com...
several[vbcol=seagreen]
to[vbcol=seagreen]
either.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> I am precise with aiming in console FPS. Maybe you just suck or have a

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> attention span.

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> I tried Halo2 for several hours and I just don't like it. After
> playing this, and also trying MoH:Spearhead on the Gamecube, I've
> come to believe that a console FPS game just doesn't work. Aiming is
> choppy and non-intuitive.

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> I'm a newbie to console gaming, after being a casual PC gamer for several
> years. I've been a fan of FPS-shooters such as Medal of Honor: Allied
> Assault, Call of Duty, and even fragfests like Quake3.
>
> Got a Xbox console a few weeks ago. I'm lovin sports games like Madden,
> action games like X-men:Legends, and fight-fests like Mortal Combat.
>
> I tried Halo2 for several hours and I just don't like it. After
> playing this, and also trying MoH:Spearhead on the Gamecube, I've come to
> believe that a console FPS game just doesn't work. Aiming is choppy and
> non-intuitive.
>
> If this is supposed to be the "killer app" for Xbox, like some reviewers
> have said, then I don't get it. I don't get the popularity of it either.
>
> Comments?

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> ever heard of half life? ;)

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>
> You have reached the heart of the matter - Consoles are for people either
> too
> poor to afford a desent computer, and/or too lazy and dim witted to handle
> more than 2 or 3 commands at a time.

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> They are intimidated at the thought of using their keyboard for anything
> else
> but their homework and yahoo cyber, and break out into a cold sweat at the
> sight on an instruction manual more than 3 pages long.
> Pure and simple.

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>
> A 3rd category of people,which I fall into and I suspect you also, are
> those
> who have a bit of money to burn,are gadget feinds and want something
> around
> the spare TV to amuse them occasionally.
>

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> I'm a newbie to console gaming, after being a casual PC gamer for several
> years. I've been a fan of FPS-shooters such as Medal of Honor: Allied
> Assault, Call of Duty, and even fragfests like Quake3.
>
> Got a Xbox console a few weeks ago. I'm lovin sports games like Madden,
> action games like X-men:Legends, and fight-fests like Mortal Combat.
>
> I tried Halo2 for several hours and I just don't like it. After
> playing this, and also trying MoH:Spearhead on the Gamecube, I've come to
> believe that a console FPS game just doesn't work. Aiming is choppy and
> non-intuitive.
>
> If this is supposed to be the "killer app" for Xbox, like some reviewers
> have said, then I don't get it. I don't get the popularity of it either.
>
> Comments?

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>I tried Halo2 for several hours and I just don't like it.

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>You have reached the heart of the matter - Consoles are for people either too
>poor to afford a desent computer, and/or too lazy and dim witted to handle

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>
>
> You should try Halo 1 instead. It's a classic, epic game.
>
> Lightning definitely didn't strike twice for Bungie.
>
> It's like when Goldeneye came out...one of the best games ever.
> Everyone tried to crank out an fps that would be as good, but they
> never captured the magic.
>
> Halo 1 is a classic for all time. Halo 2 is not.
> Halo 1 unfolds at an excellent pace, Halo 2 tries to cram every trick
> into a short game.
>
> Don't give up on consoles if Halo 2 is your benchmark.

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>
>
>Mitch@hotmail.com wrote:
>. I still think keyboard and mouse is more efficient, but Halo feels very
>natural with a controller now.

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> Rengaw wrote:
> ever heard of half life? ;)
>
> Jan

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>I'm a newbie to console gaming, after being a casual PC gamer for several
>years. I've been a fan of FPS-shooters such as Medal of Honor: Allied
>Assault, Call of Duty, and even fragfests like Quake3.
>
>Got a Xbox console a few weeks ago. I'm lovin sports games like Madden,
>action games like X-men:Legends, and fight-fests like Mortal Combat.
>
>I tried Halo2 for several hours and I just don't like it. After
>playing this, and also trying MoH:Spearhead on the Gamecube, I've come to
>believe that a console FPS game just doesn't work. Aiming is choppy and
>non-intuitive.
>
>If this is supposed to be the "killer app" for Xbox, like some reviewers
>have said, then I don't get it. I don't get the popularity of it either.
>
>Comments?
>

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> PGG <pa_paSPAAMgordygrapes@NO_SP_A_Myahoo.com> wrote in
> news:pan.2004.11.14.06.48.00.624000@NO_SP_A_Myahoo.com:
>
>
>
>
> You have reached the heart of the matter - Consoles are for people either too
> poor to afford a desent computer, and/or too lazy and dim witted to handle
> more than 2 or 3 commands at a time.
> They are intimidated at the thought of using their keyboard for anything else
> but their homework and yahoo cyber, and break out into a cold sweat at the
> sight on an instruction manual more than 3 pages long.
> Pure and simple.
>
> A 3rd category of people,which I fall into and I suspect you also, are those
> who have a bit of money to burn,are gadget feinds and want something around
> the spare TV to amuse them occasionally.
>
>
>

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>
>
>
> What a stupid, uninformed generalization.

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>
> And it's "decent."
>

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> Jesse wrote:
> this is absurd... saying that ppl who play FPS on consoles are lazy or
> just too cheap to buy a good computer is the dumbest thing i've ever
> heard. i play FPS on both the pc and the xbox and enjoy both methods of
> gaming. Halo 2 is the best FPS i've ever played and i've played all of
> them that are known to me. Can you tweak the graphics on your computer
> to blow any current console out of the water? of course you can. the
> fact that some ppl prefer a keyboard/mouse setup is cool too, but don't
> trash the ppl who like using a gamepad such as the xbox controller, it
> is a very good controller for the most part, much better than the
> gamecube (cheaply built) one i find and just as good as the PS2
> controller or better. personally, i would've said before Halo 2 came out
> my best experience playing any FPS was in the days of quake 1 and i used
> the old mouse/keyboard setup; however, Halo 2 has totally drawn me in
> and i am enjoying it to it's fullest potential. Maybe it is just you who
> are too lazy to adapt and quite frankly, suck at it. Go pick yourself up
> a keyboard/mouse for xbox, it's out there.
>
>

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>
> Well thats cool more power to ya.
> I prefer my 30 inch LCD TV,P4 3.60 w/22 inch Sony LCD monitor & 256 MB
> Radeon X800XT and thumping Logitech surround sound system as my 'media
> center' , but to each their own.
> Xbox is just fine to pass a few boring moments, or to get a laugh out of
> some of the novelty games like babe volleyball and golf.
> I've been playing consoles since the Turbo Grafx 16 [which I still own and
> use occasionally], So don't get me wrong - They do have their place.
> Serious gaming is still well entrenched within a PC.

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>
> Otherwise known as 'The Truth'.

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> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:19:58 GMT, Jayhawker <rock.chalk@jayhawk.ku>
> wrote:
>
> Hmmm...I wonder if they'll ever build a small trackball into a
> controller. That could be sweet.

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> "Jesse" <org@org.orgy> wrote in message
> news:Xns95A1B5D41F0D2ewrfdgrstnet@140.99.99.130...
>
>
> Wow, you'd hate to see my crowd! We're a bunch of computer geeks, most of
> us work in IT, we all have multiple PCs, and we all have multiple consoles.
> And we spend way more time playing console games than PC games.
>
> None of us is "poor", and we're all computer experts. I guess we ruin your
> theory just by being ourselves.
>
>

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>Everybody on the Xbox faces the same limit (that being - it takes you
>a full two seconds or so to rotate 360 degrees -

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> Jesse <org@org.orgy> wrote in message
> news:<Xns95A13BB0F8862ewrfdgrstnet@140.99.99.130>...
>
>
>
> Please, PC gaming, no matter how "cool" you think you are having
> wasted so much money on that system, will never been in the same
> class. Realistically, not many people will waste so much and get so
> little of a return (only several games really need significant specs
> on the PC). Serious gaming in terms of "stupid people paying
> ridiculous amounts for the newest hardware every 3 months to have the
> 'best'" is entrenched within the PC gaming community. Not to mention,
> I can just buy a game disk for the XBOX, PS2 or Gamecube, put it in my
> system and PLAY it, instead of fooling around with PC settings, trying
> to resolve "fatal exceptions errors" etc. I think that's where most
> PC gamers get most of their enjoyment.

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>
> I'm not sure what kind of physical debilities you suffer from, but if
> it takes you 2 seconds to turn around, I think you're thinking of
> those nightmares where your feet are mired in...whatever.
>
> I prefer consoles to PC, but I totally concede that the PC control
> scheme is superior.
>
> The console games are better, but there needs to be a paradgm shift in
> control for the next generation.

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> Sorry - Don't hang with nerds holm's.
> Anyways, just because your computer literate and not broke doesn't stop

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> from being a moron in general.

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> Life, in general, for me is all about having options.
> You get what you pay for - The more you spend, the more options that you
> have.

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> People all
> over the Net are saying the same things after they played through the
> short campaign, why was this game hyped so much?

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> Railgunner <none@none.org> wrote in message
> news:<none-3AE065.05421714112004@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com>...
>
>
> Just like the 1st Halo, the campiagn is NOT what makes it so cool,
> it's the multiplayer modes. The campaign is just a warmup for the
> online Live play. If you haven't played against real humans online
> yet, you've missed out on about 75% of what makes it so cool.
>
> -Eric

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> "Jesse" <org@org.orgy> wrote in message
> news:Xns95A1E85188404ewrfdgrstnet@140.99.99.130...
>
>
> you
>
> Well, let me assure you that "were" not morons. (Don't worry, that joke
> wasn't for you, others will laugh).

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> Mattuzzi <mwh82xxx@telus.net> wrote in
> news:7LOld.173820$9b.162881@edtnps84:
>
>
> Lol well said dude.
> I can't understand why you dumb X-boxers are getting so upset by just
> having a few well known facts pointed out for ya ... ?

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> In article <7b67c5bc.0411150621.738a156b@posting.google.com>,
> elrous0@pop.uky.edu (Eric R.) wrote:
>
>
> It's nice to hear someone come right out and admit that Halo is just
> another mediocre shooter. Too bad the gaming press is too sleazy to be
> as honest.

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> On 11/15/04 8:31 AM, in article
> none-DC2E51.06315615112004@newssvr14-ext.news.prodigy.com, "Railgunner"
> <none@none.org> wrote:
>
>
> That's not at all what he said! He's saying the game totally rocks. It's
> just that the Campaign isn't where the meat of it is, to which I agree.

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>
> So the game totally rocks - well, except for the entire campaign part???

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> jcwatchdog@msn.com (Jason Costa) wrote in
> news:37cabe21.0411141702.787a1552@posting.google.com:
>
>
>
> Life, in general, for me is all about having options.
> You get what you pay for - The more you spend, the more options that you
> have.
> Hell, thats the only reason to have $$$ in the first damn place - Options.
> Do I sit here and pick my XXX, or do I just to Hawaii, then get a new
> plasma TV when I get back.
> Hhhmmmmmm tough choice.
> Pc games are just way more sophisticated,customizable,absorbing.
> You pick some adjectives.
> How many here are complaining how lame the latest and greatest offering
> from xbox is ?
> It'll probably be in the bargain bins in a couple months for $9.95 -
> Because its too easy and short.
>
> You have a point, to be sure.
> Consoles probably do deliver more bang for the buck ... And sure,
> incompatable games/ fatal exceptions can be a PITA.
> I've seen a fair share of posts here complaining about dead/
> malfunctioning
> consoles here, so don't act like you've got manna from the sky or
> something.
> I bet I can swap a DVD drive alot faster and economical in my PC than you
> can in an xbox.
>
>

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> So the game totally rocks - well, except for the entire campaign part???

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> I prefer my 30 inch LCD TV,P4 3.60 w/22 inch Sony LCD monitor & 256 MB
> Radeon X800XT and thumping Logitech surround sound system as my 'media
> center' , but to each their own.
> Xbox is just fine

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>
>
> Jesse wrote:
>
>
>
> Sounds more like your wishlist, troll...heheh.
>

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> Buster <buster@eatme.com> wrote in news:uCLmd.3073$pK6.1367
> @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
>
> Oh yeah you busted me buster what can I say ?
> I was only trying to impess you xboxers with all of the stuff that I wish
> I
> had just so you think im really cool.
> My bad.
>
>
>

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>
> We are not impressed. How hot is your girl?
>
>

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>
>
> My daughters,wife or girlfreind ?
>
>
>

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>
>
> My daughters,wife or girlfreind ?
>
>
>

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>
> "Jesse" <org@org.orgy> wrote in message
> news:Xns95A5A79D782F6ewrfdgrstnet@140.99.99.130...
>
> As a father of a daughter, adding that into the question is a bit
> pedophilish.
>
>
>

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> On 11/18/04 3:28 PM, in article
> Xns95A5A79D782F6ewrfdgrstnet@140.99.99.130, "Jesse" <org@org.orgy>
> wrote:
>
>
> Does your wife ever look at this newsgroup? She probably wouldn't take
> your having a girlfriend too well
>

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> This thread is starting to stray way off-topic for the newsgroup.

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> "Chris H." <winxpnews@hotmail.com> wrote in news:uL$K8FezEHA.3376
> @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
>
>
> Oh come on now.
> I've seen arguments about how bad Bush sucks/kerry blows in newsgroups for
> chocolate chip cookie recipes.
> I'd say xbox and babes are a little closer on topic than that.
>
>
>

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> On 11/18/04 9:34 PM, in article
> Xns95A5E5A3E5F17ewrfdgrstnet@140.99.99.130,
> "Jesse" <org@org.orgy> wrote:
>
>
> We've had Bush/Kerry threads in this newsgroup, actually.
>

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> PGG <pa_paSPAAMgordygrapes@NO_SP_A_Myahoo.com> wrote in
> news:pan.2004.11.14.06.48.00.624000@NO_SP_A_Myahoo.com:
>

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>
> A 3rd category of people,which I fall into and I suspect you also, are those
> who have a bit of money to burn,are gadget feinds and want something around
> the spare TV to amuse them occasionally.

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> Jesse <org@org.orgy> wrote in message
> news:<Xns95A122B4222A5ewrfdgrstnet@140.99.99.130>...
>
>
> Here here! (As in medieval here here). I bet you also have a game
> that you have only played for about fifteen minutes and then never
> played it again. (For me, it's
> Tony Hawk 4 for the Xbox). Oh well, those games are good for trading
> in and getting something that is at least worth something to you for
> more than two weeks.
>

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> Jesse <org@org.orgy> wrote in message

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and[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
>
> Please, PC gaming, no matter how "cool" you think you are having
> wasted so much money on that system, will never been in the same
> class. Realistically, not many people will waste so much and get so
> little of a return (only several games really need significant specs
> on the PC). Serious gaming in terms of "stupid people paying
> ridiculous amounts for the newest hardware every 3 months to have the
> 'best'" is entrenched within the PC gaming community. Not to mention,
> I can just buy a game disk for the XBOX, PS2 or Gamecube, put it in my
> system and PLAY it, instead of fooling around with PC settings, trying
> to resolve "fatal exceptions errors" etc. I think that's where most
> PC gamers get most of their enjoyment.

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> that has gotta be one of the most ridiculous posts I've read in ages, your
> verbal diahorrea is up there with Doane

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> Buster <buster@eatme.com> wrote in news:uCLmd.3073$pK6.1367
> @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
>
>
>
> Oh yeah you busted me buster what can I say ?
> I was only trying to impess you xboxers with all of the stuff that I wish I
> had just so you think im really cool.
> My bad.