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| THIS POST CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS. DO NOT READ IT IF YOU HAVE NOT
COMPLETED THE CAMPAIGN UNLESS YOU DON'T MIND READING SPOILERS.
I have a list of questions about what happened in the game. I might be
able to answer some of them by playing back through and listening to
dialogue better, but was also curious if others may have either
concrete answers, or educated guesses, to these questions.
- Who is the mysterious, large creature who captures the chief and the
Arbiter, and sends them to stop Halo from being activated?
(My guess - some former servant, guardian, prisoner or experiment of
the Forerunners.)
- By the end of the game, are the Covenant having a civil war, or is
the strain between Brutes and Elites still just a case of limited
flare-ups?
(My guess - there is not yet an open civil war; but I base that on a
perception of time that may be skewed. It doesn't seem there's enough
time for civil war to begin after talk of eliminating the Elites
begins. As a sidenote, I wonder why the Prophets replaced the Elites;
the destruction of a Halo seems like too thin a reason, when another
Halo installation is firmly under Covenant control. You only need
one.)
- Did Cortana blow herself up, or did that prove unnecessary?
(My guess - I think she did blow herself up, but it wasn't clear to me
if she was going to do that if necessary, or if she was definitely
going to do it regardless.)
- The Halos aren't firing - but is the huge Covenant fleet still
attacking Earth as the game ends? That could be just as bad, from a
human perspective.
(My guess - some sort of truce will be called due to confusion caused
by the master chief and arbiter back home. Elites may re-assert
themselves and seek peace.)
- Who is in command of the Covenant now? Where is the last prophet? We
actually haven't seen any of the three die - one is in the hands of
the mysterious tentacled creature, the other was PRESUMED dead after
being attacked by a flood infection form.
(No guesses other than what I've said above.)
- When Cmdr. Keyes and Sgt. Johnson use a tentacle as a rope to
retrieve the Index, where did the tentacle come from?
(No guesses - maybe it was just a plant outside the installation? It
looks suspiciously like a tentacle from the mysterious big alien.)
- More of a comment than a question: It has been made even more clear
that humans are seen differently by the installations of the
Forerunners than are other species. In the first game, 343 Guilty
Spark calls you "reclaimer". In the second game, Brutes have to
physically make a human put the Index in the Core to activate it,
since a human touch is apparently necessary.
- Will there be a Halo 3? There are some loose ends, but probably not
enough for another major action game ...
- How is Capt. Keyes' daughter already a commander? She is a babe, of
apparently 25-30 years old. Navy commanders are usually more like 45
years old ... I know they really just wanted another babe in the game.
- I found myself missing Cortana. It seems like there's so much in the
game that she would want to analyze, or explain.
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| Bloody Templar 2004-11-11, 5:48 pm |
| *SPOILERS FOLLOW!*
Keith wrote:
quote:
> THIS POST CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS. DO NOT READ IT IF YOU HAVE NOT
> COMPLETED THE CAMPAIGN UNLESS YOU DON'T MIND READING SPOILERS.
>
> I have a list of questions about what happened in the game. I might be
> able to answer some of them by playing back through and listening to
> dialogue better, but was also curious if others may have either
> concrete answers, or educated guesses, to these questions.
>
> - Who is the mysterious, large creature who captures the chief and the
> Arbiter, and sends them to stop Halo from being activated?
>
> (My guess - some former servant, guardian, prisoner or experiment of
> the Forerunners.)
>
The credits refer to him as "Gravemind". We never found out who or what
he is, exactly, but the implication is that he is of the Flood.
quote:
> - By the end of the game, are the Covenant having a civil war, or is
> the strain between Brutes and Elites still just a case of limited
> flare-ups?
>
> (My guess - there is not yet an open civil war; but I base that on a
> perception of time that may be skewed. It doesn't seem there's enough
> time for civil war to begin after talk of eliminating the Elites
> begins. As a sidenote, I wonder why the Prophets replaced the Elites;
> the destruction of a Halo seems like too thin a reason, when another
> Halo installation is firmly under Covenant control. You only need
> one.)
>
The Halos are significant religious artifacts. The destruction of the
first one made the Arbiter a marked man, since he was in charge of the
Covenant fleet at that Halo. In fact, the council wanted to execute him
for heresy. What made the Elites fall from favor altogether was the
fact that they allowed the "demon" (Master Chief) to kill one of the
Prophets. The Prophets decided the Elites were sucky bodyguards and
shitcanned them.
As far as an all-out civil war? I don't know. I suppose that's
something we'll find out in Halo 3.
quote:
> - Did Cortana blow herself up, or did that prove unnecessary?
>
> (My guess - I think she did blow herself up, but it wasn't clear to me
> if she was going to do that if necessary, or if she was definitely
> going to do it regardless.)
>
She was still in the computer system of the Covenant city/ship/thing
(the name escapes me), ready to detonate the engine core on the Amber
Clad if it was necessary. Chief told her he'd be back for her, and she
told him not to make promises he couldn't keep. After the credits roll,
we see that Gravemind has come up from the depths of Halo and taken
residence in the city. He approaches Cortana, telling her he wants to
know some information. Cortana says, "shoot".
Some people are saying that this is an indication taht Cortana is going
to betray the human race. I'm not buying that for a second. She is
simply being receptive to Gravemind's questions because, let's face it,
she's stuck in that city, which is overrun with Flood. She's probably
bored.
quote:
> - The Halos aren't firing - but is the huge Covenant fleet still
> attacking Earth as the game ends? That could be just as bad, from a
> human perspective.
>
> (My guess - some sort of truce will be called due to confusion caused
> by the master chief and arbiter back home. Elites may re-assert
> themselves and seek peace.)
>
The huge Covenant fleet had just arrived at Earth, and it is attacking.
The smaller fleet that showed up at Earth at the beginning of the
game wasn't expecting to find the human race, or they would have been
better prepared. No, I think we're going to find that Earth is of some
significance with the seven Halos (possibly the Ark, possibly somehow
related to the Ark).
quote:
> - Who is in command of the Covenant now? Where is the last prophet? We
> actually haven't seen any of the three die - one is in the hands of
> the mysterious tentacled creature, the other was PRESUMED dead after
> being attacked by a flood infection form.
>
> (No guesses other than what I've said above.)
>
The last of the Prophets is with the Fleet making the "great journey".
Whatever that means. The other two, you're right. We never saw them die.
quote:
> - When Cmdr. Keyes and Sgt. Johnson use a tentacle as a rope to
> retrieve the Index, where did the tentacle come from?
>
> (No guesses - maybe it was just a plant outside the installation? It
> looks suspiciously like a tentacle from the mysterious big alien.)
>
I think it's just a dead Flood. They beat you with those tentacles all
the time.
quote:
> - More of a comment than a question: It has been made even more clear
> that humans are seen differently by the installations of the
> Forerunners than are other species. In the first game, 343 Guilty
> Spark calls you "reclaimer". In the second game, Brutes have to
> physically make a human put the Index in the Core to activate it,
> since a human touch is apparently necessary.
>
Interesting observation. The rings are of spiritual significance to the
Covenant, but the humans are the "reclaimers"... Wonder if we're going
to find out that both factions are decendants of the Forerunners?
quote:
> - Will there be a Halo 3? There are some loose ends, but probably not
> enough for another major action game ...
>
LOL... This is Bungie we're talking about. Wait and see.
quote:
> - How is Capt. Keyes' daughter already a commander? She is a babe, of
> apparently 25-30 years old. Navy commanders are usually more like 45
> years old ... I know they really just wanted another babe in the game.
>
>
I dunno, she might pass for early to mid thirties.
quote:
> - I found myself missing Cortana. It seems like there's so much in the
> game that she would want to analyze, or explain.
She's in the Chief's head for most of the Chief's missions. But she is
missed when you're playing as the Arbiter.
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| Jeff Fink 2004-11-12, 12:46 am |
| SPOILERS
"Keith" <kjordan1@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:82de20b3.0411110826.4ce743f5@posting.google.com...
quote:
> THIS POST CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS. DO NOT READ IT IF YOU HAVE NOT
> COMPLETED THE CAMPAIGN UNLESS YOU DON'T MIND READING SPOILERS.
>
> - How is Capt. Keyes' daughter already a commander? She is a babe, of
> apparently 25-30 years old. Navy commanders are usually more like 45
> years old ... I know they really just wanted another babe in the game.
>
Maybe the casualties have caused an increased rate of promotion. Reminds me
of this "based on a true story" movie about a battle in WWII. The main
character gets promoted twice in two days because his higher-ups keep
getting killed by the Germans.
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| TheNewbieTitan 2004-11-12, 12:47 am |
| *SPOILERS*
I just had one thing to say about that whole "ark" observation you made. I
don't think it is Earth. I think it is the ship that the chief is in. The
only reason I think this is because the way the monitor says "From the Ark
of course" and then it immediately cuts to the scene of MC in the ship.
For one, I don't want a Halo 3 if they are going to say that you are
defending the human race when you are only on Earth for 2 levels. If they
can make it a little more how they advertise it, I will love a Halo 3.
"Bloody Templar" <camsoper@yahoo.com.Spammers.Suck> wrote in message
news:evvrL$CyEHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
quote:
> *SPOILERS FOLLOW!*
>
> Keith wrote:
>
> The credits refer to him as "Gravemind". We never found out who or what
> he is, exactly, but the implication is that he is of the Flood.
>
>
> The Halos are significant religious artifacts. The destruction of the
> first one made the Arbiter a marked man, since he was in charge of the
> Covenant fleet at that Halo. In fact, the council wanted to execute him
> for heresy. What made the Elites fall from favor altogether was the
> fact that they allowed the "demon" (Master Chief) to kill one of the
> Prophets. The Prophets decided the Elites were sucky bodyguards and
> shitcanned them.
>
> As far as an all-out civil war? I don't know. I suppose that's
> something we'll find out in Halo 3.
>
>
> She was still in the computer system of the Covenant city/ship/thing
> (the name escapes me), ready to detonate the engine core on the Amber
> Clad if it was necessary. Chief told her he'd be back for her, and she
> told him not to make promises he couldn't keep. After the credits roll,
> we see that Gravemind has come up from the depths of Halo and taken
> residence in the city. He approaches Cortana, telling her he wants to
> know some information. Cortana says, "shoot".
>
> Some people are saying that this is an indication taht Cortana is going
> to betray the human race. I'm not buying that for a second. She is
> simply being receptive to Gravemind's questions because, let's face it,
> she's stuck in that city, which is overrun with Flood. She's probably
> bored.
>
>
> The huge Covenant fleet had just arrived at Earth, and it is attacking.
> The smaller fleet that showed up at Earth at the beginning of the
> game wasn't expecting to find the human race, or they would have been
> better prepared. No, I think we're going to find that Earth is of some
> significance with the seven Halos (possibly the Ark, possibly somehow
> related to the Ark).
>
>
> The last of the Prophets is with the Fleet making the "great journey".
> Whatever that means. The other two, you're right. We never saw them die.
>
>
> I think it's just a dead Flood. They beat you with those tentacles all
> the time.
>
>
> Interesting observation. The rings are of spiritual significance to the
> Covenant, but the humans are the "reclaimers"... Wonder if we're going
> to find out that both factions are decendants of the Forerunners?
>
>
> LOL... This is Bungie we're talking about. Wait and see.
>
>
> I dunno, she might pass for early to mid thirties.
>
>
> She's in the Chief's head for most of the Chief's missions. But she is
> missed when you're playing as the Arbiter.
| |
| Greg Tyndall 2004-11-12, 6:46 am |
| SPOILERS AGAIN, PEOPLE!
quote:
> *SPOILERS*
>
> I just had one thing to say about that whole "ark" observation you made. I
> don't think it is Earth. I think it is the ship that the chief is in. The
> only reason I think this is because the way the monitor says "From the Ark
> of course" and then it immediately cuts to the scene of MC in the ship.
That's possible, but I think Earth is the Ark. At the end, MC says something
like "To finish this fight" to Hood. And the Prophets restarted their
invasion of Earth after they "plied the Oracle with questions," which, I
guess, means that they found out that Earth is the Ark.
quote:
> For one, I don't want a Halo 3 if they are going to say that you are
> defending the human race when you are only on Earth for 2 levels. If they
> can make it a little more how they advertise it, I will love a Halo 3.
Yeah. I thought that most of the game was going to be on Earth.
quote:
die.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
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| Bloody Templar <camsoper@yahoo.com.Spammers.Suck> wrote in message news:<evvrL$CyEHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
quote:
> *SPOILERS FOLLOW!*
>
> Keith wrote:
>
> The credits refer to him as "Gravemind". We never found out who or what
> he is, exactly, but the implication is that he is of the Flood.
I hadn't thought of him as Flood-related, although that makes sense,
given his name. I had assumed that he was more of a Toxic Avenger-type
mistake, either by the Forerunners, or (less likely) by humans and/or
Covenant.
quote:
>
> The Halos are significant religious artifacts. The destruction of the
> first one made the Arbiter a marked man, since he was in charge of the
> Covenant fleet at that Halo. In fact, the council wanted to execute him
> for heresy. What made the Elites fall from favor altogether was the
> fact that they allowed the "demon" (Master Chief) to kill one of the
> Prophets. The Prophets decided the Elites were sucky bodyguards and
> shitcanned them.
Didn't the move away from Elites begin before that part of the game?
Maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, just odd to replace the Elites after
presumably thousands of years of working together.
quote:
> As far as an all-out civil war? I don't know. I suppose that's
> something we'll find out in Halo 3.
It looks like Elites, Hunters and Grunts are on one side (mostly), and
Brutes and Jackals on the other side. Of course, humans (and the
Flood, if Gravemind controls them) would all favor the first group.
This is why I wonder about a Halo 3 - things are looking good for
humanity, at this point. The Covenant are in disarray, and if
anything, the faction likely to be more pro-human appears stronger.
quote:
>
> She was still in the computer system of the Covenant city/ship/thing
> (the name escapes me), ready to detonate the engine core on the Amber
> Clad if it was necessary. Chief told her he'd be back for her, and she
> told him not to make promises he couldn't keep. After the credits roll,
> we see that Gravemind has come up from the depths of Halo and taken
> residence in the city. He approaches Cortana, telling her he wants to
> know some information. Cortana says, "shoot".
>
> Some people are saying that this is an indication taht Cortana is going
> to betray the human race. I'm not buying that for a second. She is
> simply being receptive to Gravemind's questions because, let's face it,
> she's stuck in that city, which is overrun with Flood. She's probably
> bored.
I didn't see that, because when I finished the campaign and the
credits began, I went to call my brother.
If it's as you described, then that doesn't seem like a betrayal of
any sort to me - mostly because Gravemind has been helpful and
benevolent. Of course, he may have ulterior motives. But based on his
actions in this game, I see him as a Tom Bombadil-type figure,
mysterious, powerful, benign.
quote:
>
> The huge Covenant fleet had just arrived at Earth, and it is attacking.
It WAS attacking ... guess I'm curious whether the call to attack gets
rescinded. Covenant leadership is hazy, at this point. It seems likely
to me that secular/military higher-ups among the Elites would send a
message saying something like: Halt attack, situation has changed
drastically, we are evaluating new information.
quote:
> The smaller fleet that showed up at Earth at the beginning of the
> game wasn't expecting to find the human race, or they would have been
> better prepared. No, I think we're going to find that Earth is of some
> significance with the seven Halos (possibly the Ark, possibly somehow
> related to the Ark).
Yeah, knew about it being a mistake, but I hadn't made the connection
with "the Ark". I assumed that the Ark was the spaceship the Master
Chief is on, but that doesn't make a lot of sense, in retrospect -
it's a pretty small ship. The Earth would make the perfect ark. Only,
the ark of the forerunners, not the ark of the Covenant (heheh,
couldn't resist). This fits into a general theory I've had for a while
(I'm sure I'm not unique in it), which I'll describe below.
quote:
>
> The last of the Prophets is with the Fleet making the "great journey".
> Whatever that means. The other two, you're right. We never saw them die.
>
>
> I think it's just a dead Flood. They beat you with those tentacles all
> the time.
>
>
> Interesting observation. The rings are of spiritual significance to the
> Covenant, but the humans are the "reclaimers"... Wonder if we're going
> to find out that both factions are decendants of the Forerunners?
My hunch is that humans are direct descendants of the Forerunners,
while Covenant are peripheral descendants (perhaps descended from the
Forerunners' roaches and rats). There are too many signs that humanity
(NOT the Covenant) has a special relationship with the Halos and the
Forerunners. The Covenant may want the rings, but the rings want
humans. I used to suspect that the Covenant knew this, and wanted to
take the rings either out of jealousy, or reverence for their former
far-superior masters.
quote:
>
> LOL... This is Bungie we're talking about. Wait and see.
>
>
> I dunno, she might pass for early to mid thirties.
Yeah, maybe ... but commander is a pretty serious rank. I don't know
if there has been a mid-30s commander in the last 30 years. There
probably has been one somewhere. Commander is equal to a lieutenant
colonel, in the other three branches ... higher than major, lower than
colonel. I know a lot of majors in their 30s, but have never heard of
a lt. colonel younger than about 39/40. Ah, who cares - I'm just
nitpicking. She IS a babe.
quote:
>
> She's in the Chief's head for most of the Chief's missions. But she is
> missed when you're playing as the Arbiter.
Even when she's there, though, she does less analysis, I think, than
in the first game. And, she's not in your head a lot of the time
(seems like at least half of the human campaign). More is explained in
Covenant cutscenes, while the human campaign mostly just deals with
trying to save the galaxy from present danger.
I also was expecting Halo 2 to address the major scientific and
cultural breakthroughs that humanity would receive from Cortana's data
from the first Halo. In fact, from the book (Fall of Reach), it seems
that Earth has been pretty insulated from the war, and may be totally
unprepared.
Also, I wondered whether Cortana might "go rampant" due to processing
too much information. Instead, she's become a minor character on par
with the immortal Master Sgt. Johnson. Not a complaint, just an
observation. I love what they've done with Johnson.
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| MagicUK 2004-11-12, 6:46 am |
| Just completed it, absolutely loved it, lets not forget people downloadable
content, they may be a few missions coming down at 300mb lol lucky i have
2mb connection soon!
"Jeff Fink" <jfinkjfink@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> SPOILERS
>
> "Keith" <kjordan1@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:82de20b3.0411110826.4ce743f5@posting.google.com...
>
> Maybe the casualties have caused an increased rate of promotion. Reminds
> me
> of this "based on a true story" movie about a battle in WWII. The main
> character gets promoted twice in two days because his higher-ups keep
> getting killed by the Germans.
>
>
| |
| Bloody Templar 2004-11-12, 6:04 pm |
| Keith wrote:
quote:
> I hadn't thought of him as Flood-related, although that makes sense,
> given his name. I had assumed that he was more of a Toxic Avenger-type
> mistake, either by the Forerunners, or (less likely) by humans and/or
> Covenant.
Well, that's just what I assumed due to his tentacles and his green
breath. He also says something along the lines of "circumstances made
us enemies but fate will make us brothers" while talking to the Master
Chief and the Arbiter.
quote:
>
> Didn't the move away from Elites begin before that part of the game?
> Maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, just odd to replace the Elites after
> presumably thousands of years of working together.
I got the impression that at the beginning of the game, the only
Sanghelli they were upset with was our boy, the Arbiter. It was the
death of Regret, and the subsequent blame on the Elite Honor Guard, that
caused the Elites to fall out of favor.
quote:
>
> It looks like Elites, Hunters and Grunts are on one side (mostly), and
> Brutes and Jackals on the other side. Of course, humans (and the
> Flood, if Gravemind controls them) would all favor the first group.
> This is why I wonder about a Halo 3 - things are looking good for
> humanity, at this point. The Covenant are in disarray, and if
> anything, the faction likely to be more pro-human appears stronger.
>
It could get very interesting. I don't know if the Flood is at all
interested in coexistence with humans and Covenant, but I can see the
human/Elite/Hunter/Grunt alliance being very interesting. Of course,
there's no guarantees that the Hunters and Grunts are willing to walk
away from the Covenant. Supporting your friends is one thing.
Completely betraying your religion is another. Especially when you
consider that all Elites are going to be branded as heretics after th
quote:
>
> I didn't see that, because when I finished the campaign and the
> credits began, I went to call my brother.
>
> If it's as you described, then that doesn't seem like a betrayal of
> any sort to me - mostly because Gravemind has been helpful and
> benevolent. Of course, he may have ulterior motives. But based on his
> actions in this game, I see him as a Tom Bombadil-type figure,
> mysterious, powerful, benign.
>
Bombadil? Benign? Not the word I would have chosen. Especially after
reading some of Professor Tolkien's other works (Silmarilian, Tales
of Middle Earth, etc.) that make me wonder if Tom isn't an Istar or a
Maia or something.
It wouldn't surprise me to see the benevolent, mysterious, powerful
Gravemind have an ulterior motive. Like the destruction of all
non-Flood life. I think getting the Chief and the Arbiter to locate
the index and prevent the destruction of the galaxy was purely out of
self-interest.
quote:
>
> Yeah, maybe ... but commander is a pretty serious rank. I don't know
> if there has been a mid-30s commander in the last 30 years. There
> probably has been one somewhere. Commander is equal to a lieutenant
> colonel, in the other three branches ... higher than major, lower than
> colonel. I know a lot of majors in their 30s, but have never heard of
> a lt. colonel younger than about 39/40. Ah, who cares - I'm just
> nitpicking. She IS a babe.
>
Ummm... battlefield promotion? You always hear a lot of anecdotes
about young officers moving up the ranks quickly when they're on the
losing side of a war, as the humans have been for a while.
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| Jeff Fink 2004-11-12, 6:04 pm |
|
"Bloody Templar" <camsoper@yahoo.com.Spammers.Suck> wrote in message
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quote:
> I think getting the Chief and the Arbiter to locate
> the index and prevent the destruction of the galaxy was purely out of
> self-interest.
I think you'd have to make that argument since destroying all life in the
galaxy would starve the flood to death.
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| Bloody Templar 2004-11-12, 6:04 pm |
| Jeff Fink wrote:
quote:
> "Bloody Templar" <camsoper@yahoo.com.Spammers.Suck> wrote in message
> news:es6pFLPyEHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> I think you'd have to make that argument since destroying all life in the
> galaxy would starve the flood to death.
>
>
I mean, as opposed to saving human and Covenant kind out of some kind of
benevolence.
| |
|
| Spoilers continue: One of my questions seems to have been resolved.
According to an online walkthrough I found on the Web, you hear
reports of Elite ships and Brute ships beginning to battle. This is
while you (as MC) are roaming High Charity.
It surprises me a little that the Covenant are able to launch such a
huge invasion fleet against Earth ("bigger than anybody has ever
seen," Cortana says, and if she can reach that conclusion at a quick
visual glance, that would probably mean far in excess of the 300 ships
that attacked Reach) without the Elites on board. Then again, we have
never been told how large the Covenant military is. Maybe they have
5,000 ships, for all I know.
"MagicUK" <c_boys_uk@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<41948aa7$0$29190$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Just completed it, absolutely loved it, lets not forget people downloadable
> content, they may be a few missions coming down at 300mb lol lucky i have
> 2mb connection soon!
> "Jeff Fink" <jfinkjfink@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OZSEFBFyEHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
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| Lime Jelly 2004-11-17, 6:47 am |
| > - How is Capt. Keyes' daughter already a commander? She is a babe, of
quote:
> apparently 25-30 years old. Navy commanders are usually more like 45
> years old ... I know they really just wanted another babe in the game.
>
As long as she can control seamen productivity...
Sorry.
| |
|
| - Did Cortana blow herself up, or did that prove unnecessary?
quote:
>
> (My guess - I think she did blow herself up, but it wasn't clear to me
> if she was going to do that if necessary, or if she was definitely
> going to do it regardless.)
>
I must be the only one who watched to the very end, beyond the credits. If
you do so, you see a short animation featuring Cortana and Gravemind, the
only ones left in High Charity. Basically the dialogue goes something like
this:
Gravemind: "Now I shall listen and you shall talk"
Cortana: Ok, shoot.
That's where it ends. Cortana doesn't die, if that is any indication. It
does imply some kind of exchange of information between her and Gravemind.
But what I guess we'll never know until Halo3 arrives....IF it arrives.
"Bloody Templar" <camsoper@yahoo.com.Spammers.Suck> wrote in message
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> Keith wrote:
>
> The credits refer to him as "Gravemind". We never found out who or what
> he is, exactly, but the implication is that he is of the Flood.
>
>
> The Halos are significant religious artifacts. The destruction of the
> first one made the Arbiter a marked man, since he was in charge of the
> Covenant fleet at that Halo. In fact, the council wanted to execute him
> for heresy. What made the Elites fall from favor altogether was the
> fact that they allowed the "demon" (Master Chief) to kill one of the
> Prophets. The Prophets decided the Elites were sucky bodyguards and
> shitcanned them.
>
> As far as an all-out civil war? I don't know. I suppose that's
> something we'll find out in Halo 3.
>
>
> She was still in the computer system of the Covenant city/ship/thing
> (the name escapes me), ready to detonate the engine core on the Amber
> Clad if it was necessary. Chief told her he'd be back for her, and she
> told him not to make promises he couldn't keep. After the credits roll,
> we see that Gravemind has come up from the depths of Halo and taken
> residence in the city. He approaches Cortana, telling her he wants to
> know some information. Cortana says, "shoot".
>
> Some people are saying that this is an indication taht Cortana is going
> to betray the human race. I'm not buying that for a second. She is
> simply being receptive to Gravemind's questions because, let's face it,
> she's stuck in that city, which is overrun with Flood. She's probably
> bored.
>
>
> The huge Covenant fleet had just arrived at Earth, and it is attacking.
> The smaller fleet that showed up at Earth at the beginning of the
> game wasn't expecting to find the human race, or they would have been
> better prepared. No, I think we're going to find that Earth is of some
> significance with the seven Halos (possibly the Ark, possibly somehow
> related to the Ark).
>
>
> The last of the Prophets is with the Fleet making the "great journey".
> Whatever that means. The other two, you're right. We never saw them die.
>
>
> I think it's just a dead Flood. They beat you with those tentacles all
> the time.
>
>
> Interesting observation. The rings are of spiritual significance to the
> Covenant, but the humans are the "reclaimers"... Wonder if we're going
> to find out that both factions are decendants of the Forerunners?
>
>
> LOL... This is Bungie we're talking about. Wait and see.
>
>
> I dunno, she might pass for early to mid thirties.
>
>
> She's in the Chief's head for most of the Chief's missions. But she is
> missed when you're playing as the Arbiter.
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an open mind, since we were all fooled by the two major Halo2 demos in the
first place! In other words, what Bungie say and do aren't always the same.
So I think we should all be cautious to avoid any repeat of this Halo2
fiasco. Expect nothing, that's what I say, then we can never be disappointed
or angry.
"TheNewbieTitan" <s> wrote in message
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>
> I just had one thing to say about that whole "ark" observation you made. I
> don't think it is Earth. I think it is the ship that the chief is in. The
> only reason I think this is because the way the monitor says "From the Ark
> of course" and then it immediately cuts to the scene of MC in the ship.
>
> For one, I don't want a Halo 3 if they are going to say that you are
> defending the human race when you are only on Earth for 2 levels. If they
> can make it a little more how they advertise it, I will love a Halo 3.
>
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