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| Miracle Smith 2005-05-27, 6:34 am |
| I saw the post your bro made in the clipart group-
please ask him to also post his files as either a .jpg or
..jpeg for those who are program-challenged!
So many folks in there use only one graphics proggie,
and an odd file name throws them for a loop, me included.
(Most of us regulars are over fifty, by the way.)
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| Hellmark 2005-05-27, 8:35 pm |
| Miracle Smith's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his
body were:
quote:
> I saw the post your bro made in the clipart group-
> please ask him to also post his files as either a .jpg or
> .jpeg for those who are program-challenged!
> So many folks in there use only one graphics proggie,
> and an odd file name throws them for a loop, me included.
> (Most of us regulars are over fifty, by the way.)
What did he post as? Png or SVG? (Png's whoop XXX over jpeg, think Jpeg's
with the ability for transparencies, and SVG's are vector files which can
be scaled up to any size you want without having loss of quality)
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| On Fri, 27 May 2005 14:57:03 GMT, Hellmark wrote:
quote:
> What did he post as? Png or SVG? (Png's whoop XXX over jpeg, think Jpeg's
> with the ability for transparencies, and SVG's are vector files which can
> be scaled up to any size you want without having loss of quality)
.... and don't forget, png's still aren't widely accepted as the de-facto
image fileformat.
Oh, and JPG's still beat PNG's on terms of filesize. Dunno about PNG's
capability of storing textual data though, but JPG's happily do that
anyway.
Transparency? Huh... I'd rather have a reminder of what shutter/aperture
speed I used for $PHOTOGRAPH.
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| ScratchMonkey 2005-05-27, 8:35 pm |
| Mr K <duffstuff@hotmail.com> wrote in news:42975594$1$359
$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com:
quote:
> Oh, and JPG's still beat PNG's on terms of filesize. Dunno about PNG's
> capability of storing textual data though, but JPG's happily do that
> anyway.
>
> Transparency? Huh... I'd rather have a reminder of what shutter/aperture
> speed I used for $PHOTOGRAPH.
True for photographs. Not true for artificial images. PNG is really a
replacement for GIF, not JPEG. JPEG's value is in lossy compression of
images with lots of unique colors.
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| On Fri, 27 May 2005 12:39:44 -0500, ScratchMonkey wrote:
quote:
> True for photographs. Not true for artificial images. PNG is really a
> replacement for GIF, not JPEG. JPEG's value is in lossy compression of
> images with lots of unique colors.
Put like that, it is about time the GIF format was superceded.
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| Hellmark 2005-05-28, 12:33 am |
| Mr K's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body
were:
quote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2005 14:57:03 GMT, Hellmark wrote:
> ... and don't forget, png's still aren't widely accepted as the de-facto
> image fileformat.
> Oh, and JPG's still beat PNG's on terms of filesize. Dunno about PNG's
> capability of storing textual data though, but JPG's happily do that
> anyway.
> Transparency? Huh... I'd rather have a reminder of what shutter/aperture
> speed I used for $PHOTOGRAPH.
Png's however are still widely used. Hell, even the version of Paint that
comes with XP supports reading and saving Png's. Png's sometimes can be
larger (depends on the settings and such), but in my experience, there is
far lesser loss than with jpeg's.
As far as the transparency, png's support having an alpha channel for
doing transparencies and such like gif's do, but since its an alpha
channel, its allowed to be a gradient transparency (unlike gif which only
did one color and make that transparent)
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| Hellmark wrote:
quote:
> Miracle Smith's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through
> his body were:
>
> What did he post as? Png or SVG? (Png's whoop XXX over jpeg, think
> Jpeg's with the ability for transparencies, and SVG's are vector
> files which can be scaled up to any size you want without having loss
> of quality)
Most in there use either .png (PSP) or .csv (Photoshop)
for vector files.
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| Mr K wrote:
quote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2005 14:57:03 GMT, Hellmark wrote:
>
>
> ... and don't forget, png's still aren't widely accepted as the
> de-facto image fileformat.
>
> Oh, and JPG's still beat PNG's on terms of filesize. Dunno about PNG's
> capability of storing textual data though, but JPG's happily do that
> anyway.
>
> Transparency? Huh... I'd rather have a reminder of what
> shutter/aperture speed I used for $PHOTOGRAPH.
I agree wholeheartedly! Alas, too many "serious" graphic
collectors/creators think they MUST have a "professional" vector
format.
What a bunch of bullshit- most of the folks are like me,
middle-aged hobbyists. They only want vector files so they
can alter a file a little and then call it their own! Or use PSP
on it to make it "sparkle"! Oh gag me with a pitchfork........
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Fifty-One, Female, & Feisty
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| Hellmark wrote:
quote:
> Mr K's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body
> were:
>
> Png's however are still widely used. Hell, even the version of Paint
> that comes with XP supports reading and saving Png's. Png's sometimes
> can be larger (depends on the settings and such), but in my
> experience, there is far lesser loss than with jpeg's.
>
> As far as the transparency, png's support having an alpha channel for
> doing transparencies and such like gif's do, but since its an alpha
> channel, its allowed to be a gradient transparency (unlike gif which
> only did one color and make that transparent)
Ow, my head hurts......... But it's true. The "new" png's are
becoming more wisespread thanks to XP and the new Paint.
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| On 28 May 2005 06:26:04 GMT, >^,,^< Miracle wrote:
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> Ow, my head hurts......... But it's true. The "new" png's are
> becoming more wisespread thanks to XP and the new Paint.
I'll settle for that explanation. :/
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| Hellmark 2005-05-28, 8:35 pm |
| >^,,^< Miracle's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through
quote:
>his body were:
> Hellmark wrote:
> Most in there use either .png (PSP) or .csv (Photoshop)
> for vector files.
I use svg for vector, because its a wide spread format for doing
pure vector drawing. CorelDRAW, Sodipodi, Inkscape, Illustrator, etc all
should open it, and I think PSD and PSP have some support for it. Also
some of the other formats I've used were really piss poor about file size
and quality that they saved at.
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| DEbig3 2005-05-28, 8:35 pm |
| One day, while skipping through the forest, I heard the voice of Mr K
<duffstuff@hotmail.com> coming from a tree, and thought, "Man, this is
f*ed up," but carried on the following conversation anyway:
quote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2005 14:57:03 GMT, Hellmark wrote:
>
>
> ... and don't forget, png's still aren't widely accepted as the
> de-facto image fileformat.
>
> Oh, and JPG's still beat PNG's on terms of filesize. Dunno about PNG's
> capability of storing textual data though, but JPG's happily do that
> anyway.
>
> Transparency? Huh... I'd rather have a reminder of what
> shutter/aperture speed I used for $PHOTOGRAPH.
>
jpg's still lose because theyre lossy.
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Adept
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