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>I don't mean to brag, or maybe I do, but I finally got Fios. W00tarz!
>
>So, does anybody know of any places other than Fileplanet where I can
>actually download files at 15 Mbps?

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>On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:57:20 GMT, Troy <gimmespam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>/me looks at his mere 3 Mbps cable connection and pulls up his
>trousers.
>
>You win.

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> I was thinking the exact same thing. In fact, I think I suffered some
> shrinkage, and I really can't afford that.

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> I don't mean to brag, or maybe I do, but I finally got Fios. W00tarz!
>
> So, does anybody know of any places other than Fileplanet where I can
> actually download files at 15 Mbps?

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> I'm lovin' it so far. 15 down, 2 up, and all for just US$50/month. I
> love fiber.

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> Where do you have to live to get that? 2 up is enough to run a medium-sized
> game server.

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> Why is it asymmetric? Is that a technical limitation or is it because they
> want to charge people extra to host on their servers?

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> Any idea what a business-class account runs?

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> ScratchMonkey wrote:
>
>
> I'm in southern California, but there are still only a couple of cities
> who have this so far. Verizon is really starting to push it out, though,
> since they also run the phone through the fiber and are planning on
> offering TV.
>
> I was thinking of running a server, but I'm not sure if I trust my system
> to stay up 24/7 without blowing up.
>
>
> I'm guessing it's just so they'll have more of the total bandwidth
> available for downstream instead of upstream.
>
>
> Well, at my work, we looked into fiber with Cox. For 2/2 service, it was
> slightly less expensive than a T1.
>

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>
>"Troy" <gimmespam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:XnQce.3472$eC.310@trnddc07...
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>Yep, Keller, Texas, (a burb in the Dallas/Fort Worth area) is also a test
>bed. I'm in Texas but in a small town and darn lucky to have my 3 Mbps
>cable. I am not going to hold my breath for fiber where I am for quite some
>time....

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> I don't mean to brag, or maybe I do, but I finally got Fios. W00tarz!
>
> So, does anybody know of any places other than Fileplanet where I can
> actually download files at 15 Mbps?

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>^,,^< Miracle

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> "Troy" <gimmespam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:XnQce.3472$eC.310@trnddc07...
>
> Yep, Keller, Texas, (a burb in the Dallas/Fort Worth area) is also a
> test bed. I'm in Texas but in a small town and darn lucky to have my
> 3 Mbps cable. I am not going to hold my breath for fiber where I am
> for quite some time....
>
> Quixote

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>^,,^< Miracle

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>Troy wrote:
>
>
> HUH?!?!? You were just saying that you couldn't get
>a decent speed.................
>
> <WHOOSH!> Right over my head, I guess...........

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>I don't mean to brag, or maybe I do, but I finally got Fios. W00tarz!
>
> So, does anybody know of any places other than Fileplanet where I can
> actually download files at 15 Mbps?
>
> --
> Troy

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>
> "Troy" <gimmespam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ATGce.1037$db7.437@trnddc01...
>
> Is that megabits or megabytes?
>
>
>

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> One day, while skipping through the forest, I heard the voice of "Adrian
> Ng" <spam.ng@btopenworld.com> coming from a tree, and thought, "Man, this is
> f*ed up," but carried on the following conversation anyway:
> for starters.. lowercase b means bits. even completely ignoring that fact
> and relying solely on logic, the answer would still be bits. if he had a
> 15MB/s connection, he would need gigabit ethernet just to fully utilize it
> (read: itd be faster than most lans)

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> I'm in southern California, but there are still only a couple of
> cities who have this so far. Verizon is really starting to push it
> out, though, since they also run the phone through the fiber and are
> planning on offering TV.

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> I'm guessing it's just so they'll have more of the total bandwidth
> available for downstream instead of upstream.

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> DEbig3's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body
> were:
>
> Also, a good rule of thumb, if talking about data speeds (for RAM, network
> connections, etc) its bits, if its data storage, its bytes.
>
> a 15megabyte connection would be 120megabit, or about, the equivilent of
> being 60 to 100 times faster than the average cable or DSL connection.
> Your average LAN connection maxes out at 100megabit (with few having
> gigabit ethernet cards, or having a network setup to fully utilize them).

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>
> I don't think that makes sense. The bandwidth in ADSL is asymmetric because
> of electrical emission issues. The signals start interferering with each
> other when you crank up both directions but you can trade one off against
> the other. That wouldn't be the case with a light-based system.

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> More likely is that they're cheaping-out on the peering arrangements.
> Serving packets onto someone else's backbone is more expensive than
> accepting them.

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> Quixote wrote:
>
>
> And I'll be long dead before it gets to my neighborhood.
>
> We don't even have cable TV up here yet!
>
> --
>

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> Same here - my 1Mbs is as fast as the line allows (I've been told)
> and my father in law is too far from the exchange for anything but
> dial up.
> As we might be moving in next to him, this is not good news...

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>^,,^< Miracle

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> Schrodinger wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm, I just peeked at my current connection speed-
> the gizmo says "2.0Mbps", which I translate to "two megabits
> per second".
> I've seen it as high as 5.5Mbps. (This using GNA's DSL via
> a wireless card.)
>
> So, that's pretty okay? Now I'm wondering how fast the
> satellite is connecting.............
>
> I got so used to seeing stuff like "33,000bps", or on a good
> day "45,000bps", that I'm trying to grasp the difference. Is one
> megabit equal to 100,000 bits? Or 1,000 bits?
>
> Crap, my head hurts. I'll try to Google this shit.
>
> --
>
>

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> "Miracle Smith" wrote...
> 1Mb = roughly 100k per second download speed. Your old "33,000bps"
> equated to roughly 3k per second.
>
> So, theoretically your 5.5Mbps (5.5 mega bits per seconds). Is around
> 550k per second.
>
> 1 megabit = 1,000,000 bits. There are 8 bits in a byte - so this
> equals 1,000,000 divided by eight - 125,000 bytes. There are 1024
> bytes in one "k" - kilobyte - hence this equals around 100k.
>
> Generally, line speeds etc. are expressed in bits and stuff like
> memory is in bytes.

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>^,,^< Miracle

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> What is that site that will test your speed for you? I don't see

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> Hmmm, I just peeked at my current connection speed-
> the gizmo says "2.0Mbps", which I translate to "two megabits
> per second".
> I've seen it as high as 5.5Mbps. (This using GNA's DSL via
> a wireless card.)

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> So, that's pretty okay? Now I'm wondering how fast the
> satellite is connecting.............

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> I got so used to seeing stuff like "33,000bps", or on a good
> day "45,000bps", that I'm trying to grasp the difference. Is one
> megabit equal to 100,000 bits? Or 1,000 bits?
>
> Crap, my head hurts. I'll try to Google this shit.

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> In the case of bits/bytes, people like to count in powers of 2. 2^10 is
> 1024, so people use 1024 bytes to a kilobyte, 1024 kilobytes to a
> megabyte, 1024 megabytes to a gigabyte, etc.

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> He's getting more than decent speeds. He would like to play around and
> pull close to the maximum.

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> Not all servers out there are serving at speeds he can pull. So he's
> bottlenecked.

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> To not be the slow point on the network... must be a nice "problem" to
> have.

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> I bet at this point Troy would rather open a vein than go back to
> dialup. Or even paltry T1 / DSL speeds.

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> 1Mb = roughly 100k per second download speed. Your old "33,000bps" equated
> to roughly 3k per second.

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> Damn. I'm in northern California, where we have SBC. OTOH, my office is
> down the street from Pixar's previous location in Point Richmond and there
> should be fiber in the street there, so it shouldn't be hard to run it down
> the street. But I don't think we're a priority for that. I'm hoping for
> fixed wireless, as we have a great hill above us where a tower could be put
> that could reach much of the northern SF Bay Area.

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> I don't think that makes sense. The bandwidth in ADSL is asymmetric because
> of electrical emission issues. The signals start interferering with each
> other when you crank up both directions but you can trade one off against
> the other. That wouldn't be the case with a light-based system.
>
> More likely is that they're cheaping-out on the peering arrangements.
> Serving packets onto someone else's backbone is more expensive than
> accepting them.

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> Schrodinger wrote:
>
>
> Wow. My original connection was 300 bps. So, my new connection is over
> 52,000 times faster.
>
> /e shakes his head in disbelief.
>

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> Miracle Smith wrote:
>
> That's a little different; that's your connection to his
> access-point/router. Presumably, it's an 11Mbps network. To allow for
> not-so-good signal strength because of reinforced concrete walls or
> long distance, that can scale down from 11Mbps to 5.5, 2.0 or 1.0
> Mbps.
> This is the speed at which you connect to the router. As long as it's
> higher than the speed at which you connect to the internet, you're
> golden. As it is, you're sharing, so even that isn't a requisite.
>
>
> A little over three kilometers per second.
>
>
> Welcome to the metric system.
>
> Prefixes are as follows for the lower end of the spectrum:
> nano 1 billionth, or 10^-9
> micro 1 millionth, or 10^-6
> mili 1 thousandth, or 10^-3
> (and then centi and deci for one hundreth and one tenth, respectively)
>
> For the higher end of the spectrum:
> (first deca and hecto for ten and one hundred, respectively)
> kilo thousand, 10^3
> mega million, 10^6
> giga billion, 10^9
> tera trillion, 10^12 (incidentally, this scale must be used to measure
> the US' debt. Is this was Bush meant with his "War on Tera?")
>
> But the good thing is, this goes for all measurements except
> temperature. A kilogram is 1000 grams, a kilometer is 1000 meters, a 1
> megawatt orbital laser has an output of a million Watts, etc.
>
> In the case of bits/bytes, people like to count in powers of 2. 2^10
> is 1024, so people use 1024 bytes to a kilobyte, 1024 kilobytes to a
> megabyte, 1024 megabytes to a gigabyte, etc.

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>^,,^< Miracle, Queen of Anal Retention

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> Frank van Schie <frankNOSPAM@email.it> wrote in
> news:0vqdnaPCWKbYruvfRVnysg@casema.nl:
>
>
> And then there's those silly-looking but more technically accurate
> suffixes when you want to distinguish between base-10 and base-2
> -based prefixes.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
>
> (Shouldn't "mebibyte" be a unit of packet loss?)

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> I'm sorry, but I can't possibly take a Kibibyte seriously!
>
> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha:::::thud!:::::

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> Given the choice between DSL and fixed wireless, I'd pick DSL any day. I
> was lucky with my fixed wireless provider, and it was relatively
> reliable. Most days, I'd get 1.5 - 2 megabits/sec. Still, there were
> days I'd get sub-dial-up speed. When I switched to DSL, even though I
> never went above 1.5 megabits/sec, it was very consistent.

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> What about pings? Are pings noticeably lower? Seems they should be,
> fast as light etc...

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> I don't mean to brag, or maybe I do, but I finally got Fios. W00tarz!
>
> So, does anybody know of any places other than Fileplanet where I can
> actually download files at 15 Mbps?
>
> --
> Troy

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> What about pings? Are pings noticeably lower? Seems they should be, fast
> as light etc...

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> I mention it because when shopping for broadband for the new office last
> year, I heard about a guy in the San Jose area that was providing fixed
> wireless to some unwired valley. They were getting something like 8 Mbps
> symmetric, which is to die for. The guy got enough subscribers to "pledge"
> and then he put up the tower above the valley. He had an offer to do the
> same for other areas with enough pledges from that area to make it
> worthwhile. I think it was around 200 houses. There's a perfect ridge
> behind my office to put the tower.

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> Keep in mind that fixed wireless is usually just overpowered 802.11b.