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| On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 10:50:07 -0600, ScratchMonkey wrote:
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> Seen on SlashDot:
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> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/04/0548206
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> The US held a tea party for their protest. Does this mean Mr. K will throw
> a LAN party? :D
Like hell it will.
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| Hellmark 2005-03-04, 7:03 pm |
| Mr K's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body
were:
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> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 10:50:07 -0600, ScratchMonkey wrote:
> Like hell it will.
You poor XXXXers get taxed on having TV's? It would suck if they started
taxing computers, because what if you have a shitload of old ones (like
the article suggests). Would they tax the motherboard, the case, or what?
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| On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 19:55:37 GMT, Hellmark wrote:
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> You poor XXXXers get taxed on having TV's?
It's called "television license"...:
http://www.cambridge2000.com/memos/tv_license.html
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> It would suck if they started taxing computers, because what if you have
> a shitload of old ones (like the article suggests). Would they tax the
> motherboard, the case, or what?
I suggest you start talking about something you do understand.
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"There's violence to be done."
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| Frank van Schie 2005-03-04, 7:03 pm |
| Hellmark wrote:
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> You poor XXXXers get taxed on having TV's?
No, they get taxed on using a TV to receive television broadcasts (using
it only hooked up to a DVD player, and detuned, makes you exempt, frex).
This money is then used to maintain a quality public TV station, with no
advertisements at all (let alone the ridiculous "Oh, your five minute
attention span is up, cut to commercials!" scheme the Americans do).
And all that without getting gangraped by network television station.
What a concept!
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> It would suck if they started
> taxing computers, because what if you have a shitload of old ones (like
> the article suggests). Would they tax the motherboard, the case, or what?
They would probably tax "Using a computer to receive television
broadcasts", or connecting to the internet, or some such. If they
provide a good national resource on the Internet, I'd cheer the Brits on.
--
Frank
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| On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 23:12:32 +0100, Frank van Schie wrote:
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> This money is then used to maintain a quality public TV station, with no
> advertisements at all (let alone the ridiculous "Oh, your five minute
> attention span is up, cut to commercials!" scheme the Americans do).
Careful how you call "Aunty Beeb". It's not quality TV anymore.
.... and the "no advertisments" isn't exactly correct anymore either.
Direct adverts (5 minute commercial breaks), they're not done, but the BBC
were slapped once or twice for subliminal adverts (brand names being swung
about on television shows).
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| Hellmark 2005-03-04, 7:03 pm |
| Frank van Schie's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through
his body were:
quote:
> Hellmark wrote:
> No, they get taxed on using a TV to receive television broadcasts (using
> it only hooked up to a DVD player, and detuned, makes you exempt, frex).
Not too bad.
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> This money is then used to maintain a quality public TV station, with no
> advertisements at all (let alone the ridiculous "Oh, your five minute
> attention span is up, cut to commercials!" scheme the Americans do).
> And all that without getting gangraped by network television station.
> What a concept!
We have commercial free stations over here too, just not that common.
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> They would probably tax "Using a computer to receive television
> broadcasts", or connecting to the internet, or some such. If they
> provide a good national resource on the Internet, I'd cheer the Brits on.
Problem is, that might not be the case. Sorry, too used to having the
gov't tax and then get shit in return.
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| Schrodinger 2005-03-04, 10:31 pm |
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"Frank van Schie" <frankNOSPAM@email.it> wrote in message
news:jYmdnTiaJqbNQLXfRVnyrw@casema.nl...
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> Hellmark wrote:
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> No, they get taxed on using a TV to receive television broadcasts (using
> it only hooked up to a DVD player, and detuned, makes you exempt, frex).
Not true. If your TV has the capability of receiving UHF signals then you
are legally obliged to pay the tax.
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> This money is then used to maintain a quality public TV station, with no
> advertisements at all (let alone the ridiculous "Oh, your five minute
> attention span is up, cut to commercials!" scheme the Americans do).
Instead, we get BBC adverts for BBC programmes every 20 minutes.
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> And all that without getting gangraped by network television station. What
> a concept!
Well, um, even the private companies never did this - but there's always
time...
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> They would probably tax "Using a computer to receive television
> broadcasts", or connecting to the internet, or some such. If they provide
> a good national resource on the Internet, I'd cheer the Brits on.
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I am a BBC fanbois, but feel that it hasn't long to go now - too much
political pressure either from a licence fee perspective (which is, TBF, a
deeply unfair tax) or the governmental. Now Sky has a big hold here, the
BBC have little reason to exist as most of the population never watch it -
they are too busy wathcing Big Brother or Emmerdale.
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> Frank
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| Smeghead 2005-03-04, 10:31 pm |
| On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 10:50:07 -0600, ScratchMonkey
<scratchmonkey.blacklist@sewingwitch.com> wrote:
quote:
>Seen on SlashDot:
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>http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/04/0548206
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>The US held a tea party for their protest. Does this mean Mr. K will throw
>a LAN party? :D
If he does, I'm THERE!
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| Smeghead 2005-03-04, 10:31 pm |
| On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 23:12:32 +0100, Frank van Schie
<frankNOSPAM@email.it> wrote:
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>Hellmark wrote:
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>No, they get taxed on using a TV to receive television broadcasts (using
>it only hooked up to a DVD player, and detuned, makes you exempt, frex).
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>This money is then used to maintain a quality public TV station, with no
>advertisements at all (let alone the ridiculous "Oh, your five minute
>attention span is up, cut to commercials!" scheme the Americans do).
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>And all that without getting gangraped by network television station.
>What a concept!
Hey! Whaddya mean by... ooh, gotta go, the commercials are up on BBC
America. Black Books is back on.
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--==< S m e g h e a d >==--
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| ScratchMonkey wrote:
quote:
> Seen on SlashDot:
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> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/04/0548206
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> The US held a tea party for their protest. Does this mean Mr. K will
> throw a LAN party? :D
In the Times article, I found this quote ("Ofcom predicts that more
than half of Britain's households will be watching television over the
internet by 2012.") to be patently stupid.
How would more than one person sit comfortably around a
desktop monitor or laptop screen? Both are still too small to place
across a room and watch, so that negates the comfy armchair or sofa.
Nope, it will never happen. One person watching a DVD on their
computer makes sense, but a whole family huddled in front of a monitor
to watch? No way.
The UK government is just fishing around for a bigger source of
future revenue.
So there's my lousy 2 cents. 
(Hey! There's no numpad on this laptop! How am I supposed to
make the "alt 0162"?!?)
--
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>^,,^< Miracle
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| Quixote 2005-03-05, 4:38 am |
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">^,,^<" <miracle@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:38sr4uF5rls60U1@individual.net...
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> ScratchMonkey wrote:
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> In the Times article, I found this quote ("Ofcom predicts that more
> than half of Britain's households will be watching television over the
> internet by 2012.") to be patently stupid.
> How would more than one person sit comfortably around a
> desktop monitor or laptop screen? Both are still too small to place
> across a room and watch, so that negates the comfy armchair or sofa.
> Nope, it will never happen. One person watching a DVD on their
> computer makes sense, but a whole family huddled in front of a monitor
> to watch? No way.
> The UK government is just fishing around for a bigger source of
> future revenue.
>
> So there's my lousy 2 cents.
>
> (Hey! There's no numpad on this laptop! How am I supposed to
> make the "alt 0162"?!?)
>
Remember my toy?? http://www.streamium.com/products/sl300i/ This is how.
It streams from the internet or my harddrive to my 35" incher in the living
room. Brings out the best of Whole Heap of Trouble. :^)
Quixote
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| Frank van Schie 2005-03-05, 6:53 pm |
| ScratchMonkey wrote:
quote:
> Seen on SlashDot:
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> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/04/0548206
>
> The US held a tea party for their protest. Does this mean Mr. K will throw
> a LAN party? :D
The Bolton LAN Party?
The pages of History are rustling in the background already.
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Frank
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| Frank van Schie 2005-03-05, 6:53 pm |
| ScratchMonkey wrote:
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> Build Your Own TV Without Broadcast Flags
> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/03/1313230
Yes, that flag thingie doth sucketh most mightily. I wonder how long
before Europe follows suit.
I like how Dutch law allows me to keep "backups" of movies and mp3's,
without having to own any original. It's actually quite sane: They're
*backups*, for use when your original copy dies.
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> HDTV card for your computer for $170 (at least until it becomes illegal in
> July):
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> http://pchdtv.com/
Pity they crippled it by only supporting the inferior NTSC, as opposed
to the smugly superior PAL.
Besides which, while I applaud efforts at supporting linux (even
emphatically supporting linux), not supporting windows is bad marketing.
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Frank
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| Adrian Ng 2005-03-05, 6:53 pm |
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"ScratchMonkey" <ScratchMonkey.blacklist@sewingwitch.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96105054F8224scratchmonkey@216.196.97.136...
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> "Quixote" <quixote@writeme.com> wrote in
> news:112imkkgifurk72@corp.supernews.com:
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> Build Your Own TV Without Broadcast Flags
> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/03/1313230
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> HDTV card for your computer for $170 (at least until it becomes illegal in
> July):
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> http://pchdtv.com/
Illegal?
I might just be up for that sort of thing.
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| Smeghead 2005-03-05, 10:31 pm |
| On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 20:15:18 +0100, Frank van Schie
<frankNOSPAM@email.it> wrote:
quote:
>ScratchMonkey wrote:
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>Yes, that flag thingie doth sucketh most mightily. I wonder how long
>before Europe follows suit.
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>I like how Dutch law allows me to keep "backups" of movies and mp3's,
>without having to own any original. It's actually quite sane: They're
>*backups*, for use when your original copy dies.
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>Pity they crippled it by only supporting the inferior NTSC, as opposed
>to the smugly superior PAL.
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>Besides which, while I applaud efforts at supporting linux (even
>emphatically supporting linux), not supporting windows is bad marketing.
It's been my experience to go with the inferior technology, as it
invariably becomes the standard. Can somoene pass me the remote to my
Betamax VCR please?
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--==< S m e g h e a d >==--
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| Quixote wrote:
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> ">^,,^<" <miracle@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:38sr4uF5rls60U1@individual.net...
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> Remember my toy?? http://www.streamium.com/products/sl300i/ This
> is how. It streams from the internet or my harddrive to my 35" incher
> in the living room. Brings out the best of Whole Heap of Trouble. :^)
>
> Quixote
Ah, of course. Technology is progressing at an almost imaginable
pace, so goodness knows where we'll be in just a mere 5 or 10 years
from now.
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>^,,^< Miracle
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| ScratchMonkey 2005-03-06, 6:48 pm |
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"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> It's been my experience to go with the inferior technology, as it
> invariably becomes the standard. Can somoene pass me the remote to my
> Betamax VCR please?
Speaking of remotes, check out this expensive toy:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/p...us/en,CRID=2078
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| ScratchMonkey 2005-03-06, 6:48 pm |
| ">^,,^<" <miracle@spamcop.net> wrote in news:38vm7lF5j6mptU1
@individual.net:
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> Ah, of course. Technology is progressing at an almost imaginable
> pace, so goodness knows where we'll be in just a mere 5 or 10 years
> from now.
Direct brain stimulation. Of course, first they have to find mine! ;)
But there's those glasses that "paint" the image right on the retina to
generate virtual HUD screens. Right now they're handy for looking at
documentation when you're in an uncomfortable position, like lying on the
ground under a vehicle, or hanging by one hand from a power pole.
I recall reading a story recently where people wore gear to create a shared
reality around them, overlaid on drab reality. (But is that so different
from painting buildings, installing "facades", and putting a lawn where
weeds are indigenous?)
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| Frank van Schie 2005-03-06, 6:48 pm |
| ScratchMonkey wrote:
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> But there's those glasses that "paint" the image right on the retina to
> generate virtual HUD screens. Right now they're handy for looking at
> documentation when you're in an uncomfortable position, like lying on the
> ground under a vehicle, or hanging by one hand from a power pole.
I want a set. But they'd have to be fullcolor, and built into my eye's
lens, running on biopower and wifi-enabled.
quote:
> I recall reading a story recently where people wore gear to create a shared
> reality around them, overlaid on drab reality. (But is that so different
> from painting buildings, installing "facades", and putting a lawn where
> weeds are indigenous?)
http://gprime.net/video.php/totalimmersion
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| Quixote 2005-03-06, 6:48 pm |
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"ScratchMonkey" <ScratchMonkey.blacklist@sewingwitch.com> wrote in message
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>">^,,^<" <miracle@spamcop.net> wrote in news:38vm7lF5j6mptU1
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> Direct brain stimulation. Of course, first they have to find mine! ;)
Sign me up!
Quixote
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| On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 14:32:07 -0600, Quixote wrote:
me too!!!
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> "ScratchMonkey" <ScratchMonkey.blacklist@sewingwitch.com> wrote in message
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> Sign me up!
>
> Quixote
>
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| Adrian Ng 2005-03-06, 6:48 pm |
| You're all crazy.
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| ScratchMonkey 2005-03-07, 7:00 pm |
| "Adrian Ng" <spam.ng@btopenworld.com> wrote in news:d0fr5a$fp3$1
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> You're all crazy.
ofn
(I so seldom get to use that acronym!)
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| On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:14:25 +0000 (UTC), Adrian Ng wrote:
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> I so seldom see seldom used anymore.
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> In fact i can't even type it very well - it always comes out as selcom.
I seldom use the word "selcom".
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"There's violence to be done."
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