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| cldstrife 2005-04-16, 6:31 am |
| has anyone played it on test center?
i played for about 30minutes on a friends account since i havent been able
to get a game card for my account. after playing it. i have come to the
conclusion that if this hits live as it is now intact. i will not be
renewing my account. i was not pleased with it one bit. looked like that
took eq2's engine and put it over galaxies. it sucked. combat horrible.
please post your thoughts. this is not moderated by soe so say all you want.
i hate the CU i hope it burns in hell.
they should fix the current system. not scrape it
please post your opinions
former ahazian
Malow.
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| Diaboyos 2005-04-16, 8:34 pm |
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"cldstrife" <cldstrife@ff7.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> has anyone played it on test center?
> i played for about 30minutes on a friends account since i havent been able
> to get a game card for my account. after playing it. i have come to the
> conclusion that if this hits live as it is now intact. i will not be
> renewing my account. i was not pleased with it one bit. looked like that
> took eq2's engine and put it over galaxies. it sucked. combat horrible.
> please post your thoughts. this is not moderated by soe so say all you
want.
quote:
> i hate the CU i hope it burns in hell.
> they should fix the current system. not scrape it
>
>
> please post your opinions
>
> former ahazian
> Malow.
>
I'm gonna have to re-install TC and check it out I guess. I know what
they plan for entertainers totally sucks.
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| Gilbert A Garza 2005-04-17, 12:32 am |
| i was looking it over and found that there are major changes coming. i have
a master doctor and from what i read i wonder if i will be able to use all
the enhance packs i have made.
looks like there is going to be a seperation of enhances.
"cldstrife" <cldstrife@ff7.com> wrote in message
news:ZC38e.12056$%c1.776@fed1read05...
quote:
> has anyone played it on test center?
> i played for about 30minutes on a friends account since i havent been able
> to get a game card for my account. after playing it. i have come to the
> conclusion that if this hits live as it is now intact. i will not be
> renewing my account. i was not pleased with it one bit. looked like that
> took eq2's engine and put it over galaxies. it sucked. combat horrible.
> please post your thoughts. this is not moderated by soe so say all you
> want. i hate the CU i hope it burns in hell.
> they should fix the current system. not scrape it
>
>
> please post your opinions
>
> former ahazian
> Malow.
>
>
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| Dirk Pfeiffer 2005-04-17, 8:34 pm |
| Reply to message from "cldstrife" <cldstrife@ff7.com> (Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:
00:54) about "combat upgrade":
This CU is complete bullshit. Iposted the same on the BRIA-boards: They can
stick their CU up their asses! I will most likely be banned by monday. But
also on monday I will jump into my car and pay the german LucasArts office
a visit, drop my copis of swg there and have a p1ss on them. I am totally
pissed about what is going on with the CU and the devs who don't give a
shit about what the community wants. Both accounts cancelled! kthxbye SOE
c> has anyone played it on test center? i played for about 30minutes on a
c> friends account since i havent been able to get a game card for my
c> account. after playing it. i have come to the conclusion that if this
c> hits live as it is now intact. i will not be renewing my account. i was
c> not pleased with it one bit. looked like that took eq2's engine and put
c> it over galaxies. it sucked. combat horrible. please post your
c> thoughts. this is not moderated by soe so say all you want. i hate the
c> CU i hope it burns in hell. they should fix the current system. not
c> scrape it
c> please post your opinions
c> former ahazian
c> Malow.
Bye
Dirk Pfeiffer <dirk@dbx501.de> Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:42:17 +0200
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| Dirk Pfeiffer 2005-04-17, 8:34 pm |
| Just in case this is monitored by SOE:
Player names:
Pfeiffer Dirk - Jedi Knight (a joke after CU) Krid - Master Doctor (a joke
after CU) Kooltec - Master BH/Master Carbineer (a joke right now, even more
after CU)
Server : BRIA
I don't give a shit anymore. I played for 2 years now. SOE has gotten like
500 bucks for my accounts so far. NOT ONE CENT MORE!!!
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| Clawhound 2005-04-18, 8:33 pm |
| cldstrife wrote:
quote:
> has anyone played it on test center?
> i played for about 30minutes on a friends account since i havent been able
> to get a game card for my account. after playing it. i have come to the
> conclusion that if this hits live as it is now intact. i will not be
> renewing my account. i was not pleased with it one bit. looked like that
> took eq2's engine and put it over galaxies. it sucked. combat horrible.
> please post your thoughts. this is not moderated by soe so say all you want.
> i hate the CU i hope it burns in hell.
> they should fix the current system. not scrape it
>
>
> please post your opinions
>
> former ahazian
> Malow.
>
>
I'm fine with it. It's not perfect, but the previous system was fairly
broke.
CH
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| Tom Carman 2005-04-18, 8:33 pm |
| "Gilbert A Garza" <ggarza@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Opj8e.4751$0V2.2192@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
quote:
> i was looking it over and found that there are major changes coming. i
have
quote:
> a master doctor and from what i read i wonder if i will be able to use all
> the enhance packs i have made.
> looks like there is going to be a seperation of enhances.
According to conversion tests on TC-Bria, buff packs do not convert to the
new enhancers (as you would reasonable expect), but into stims usable only
by level 60+ combatants (and Master Doctor maxes out at level 55).
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| Clawhound 2005-04-18, 8:33 pm |
| John Cosky wrote:
quote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clawhound" <none@nowhere.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.games.starwarsgalaxies
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: combat upgrade
>
>
>
>
>
> thats a load, they only needed to do a few simple things, 1) no more
> stacking skills, you only get to use what skills you got with the weapon
> equipped. 2) lower the buffs and dots to a REASONABLE level 3) less saber
> block and more melee d for jedi. 4) lower the armor protection 5) FIX the
> goddam bugs that were in all the combat trees from day one retail release
> when i bought the game and registered it.
>
> instead of that now were getting an entirely NEW and UNTESTED prayer that
> has a publically announced MUST have date regardles s of how well or what
> crappy state of condition its in, all the while while they add on rotw and
> the numerous bugs that will surely go live with that also. i wont quit but i
> havfe a sad feeling this jedi knight will be flying space 90% of the time
> Telboon/Echeusiy/Ityone
> Sweet Water Dantooine Bria
>
>
What game have you been playing?
Armor - 80% resists - broke
Weapons - far too powerful at novice boxes - broke
Buffs - broke
Stim-B's too powerful - broke
Headshot in rifleman - broke
Specials kill the player unbuffed - broke
Pool targeting specials - broke
Creature Handler - broke
Dots - broke
Jedi - broke
Special Spamming - broke
Combat Medics - way broke
We are now using overpowered weapons, overpowered armor, and overpowered
buffs, making even the most devastating creatures too easy.
Do you remember those early months, when it took 30 people with CDEFS to
bring down a fambaa??? Oh, those were great fun.
Almost everything that has been implemented is a direct result of what
players have said is wrong with a profession or with combat.
CH
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| cldstrife 2005-04-18, 8:33 pm |
| you are all right about it. i really wish they would scap the CU and just
fix whats wrong with the current system.
Malow
"John Cosky" <JSCosky@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ZaR8e.399$2X2.170@okepread06...
quote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clawhound" <none@nowhere.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.games.starwarsgalaxies
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: combat upgrade
>
>
>
> thats a load, they only needed to do a few simple things, 1) no more
> stacking skills, you only get to use what skills you got with the weapon
> equipped. 2) lower the buffs and dots to a REASONABLE level 3) less saber
> block and more melee d for jedi. 4) lower the armor protection 5) FIX the
> goddam bugs that were in all the combat trees from day one retail release
> when i bought the game and registered it.
>
> instead of that now were getting an entirely NEW and UNTESTED prayer that
> has a publically announced MUST have date regardles s of how well or what
> crappy state of condition its in, all the while while they add on rotw and
> the numerous bugs that will surely go live with that also. i wont quit but
> i havfe a sad feeling this jedi knight will be flying space 90% of the
> time
> Telboon/Echeusiy/Ityone
> Sweet Water Dantooine Bria
>
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| John Cosky 2005-04-18, 8:33 pm |
| ----- Original Message -----
From: "Clawhound" <none@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.games.starwarsgalaxies
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: combat upgrade
quote:
> cldstrife wrote:
>
>
> I'm fine with it. It's not perfect, but the previous system was fairly
> broke.
>
> CH
thats a load, they only needed to do a few simple things, 1) no more
stacking skills, you only get to use what skills you got with the weapon
equipped. 2) lower the buffs and dots to a REASONABLE level 3) less saber
block and more melee d for jedi. 4) lower the armor protection 5) FIX the
goddam bugs that were in all the combat trees from day one retail release
when i bought the game and registered it.
instead of that now were getting an entirely NEW and UNTESTED prayer that
has a publically announced MUST have date regardles s of how well or what
crappy state of condition its in, all the while while they add on rotw and
the numerous bugs that will surely go live with that also. i wont quit but i
havfe a sad feeling this jedi knight will be flying space 90% of the time
Telboon/Echeusiy/Ityone
Sweet Water Dantooine Bria
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| cldstrife 2005-04-18, 8:33 pm |
| they can fix those and not scap the old system with a rip off of eq2's
systems
Malow
"Clawhound" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:C3U8e.129$fZ5.338@mencken.net.nih.gov...
quote:
> John Cosky wrote:
>
>
> What game have you been playing?
>
> Armor - 80% resists - broke
> Weapons - far too powerful at novice boxes - broke
> Buffs - broke
> Stim-B's too powerful - broke
> Headshot in rifleman - broke
> Specials kill the player unbuffed - broke
> Pool targeting specials - broke
> Creature Handler - broke
> Dots - broke
> Jedi - broke
> Special Spamming - broke
> Combat Medics - way broke
>
> We are now using overpowered weapons, overpowered armor, and overpowered
> buffs, making even the most devastating creatures too easy.
>
> Do you remember those early months, when it took 30 people with CDEFS to
> bring down a fambaa??? Oh, those were great fun.
>
> Almost everything that has been implemented is a direct result of what
> players have said is wrong with a profession or with combat.
>
> CH
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| Clawhound 2005-04-18, 8:33 pm |
| cldstrife wrote:
quote:
> they can fix those and not scap the old system with a rip off of eq2's
> systems
>
Fixing the problems is what got us here in the first place. If you lay
the problems out, little fixes tend to compound.
Let's say the "nerf the XXXX out of armor."
Now, they need to change the high-end content designed around the uber
armor.
Now they have to fix all the armor schematics.
Now they have to fix all the armor component drops.
Now they need to add in trade-offs for using armor.
Now they need to find ways to make all armor attractive.
Now they need to find a way to balance offensive vs. defensive power.
Now they need to find a way to keep players from grabbing the "best"
armor first thing.
Now they need to enforce people away from a "best" armor.
Now they need to create a system where new armors can be easily added in
without being imbalanced.
Now, since armor and weapons must be balanced against each other, they
need to change the armor piercing system.
If they change the armor piercing system, they must change the stats on
every creature in the database.
Nice "little" fix you have here. And that's just the known problems for
armor. Just wait until we hit the problems with weapons. Do you see why
this CU happened the way that it did? There so much to change that the
only way to change it well is to do it all at once because combat
touches on everything in the entire system.
I'm not saying that this is a perfect solution. I can't even promise you
that it will be fun. But this is what it is, and it will either be fun,
or it won't. But not amount of "just fix the old system" will convince
me that that is a good alternative, because even the devs conceded
defeat and just rewrote the damned system.
CH
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| Tom Carman 2005-04-19, 8:33 pm |
| "Clawhound" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:C3U8e.129$fZ5.338@mencken.net.nih.gov...
quote:
> John Cosky wrote:
>
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>
> What game have you been playing?
>
> Armor - 80% resists - broke
He said that.
quote:
> Weapons - far too powerful at novice boxes - broke
Hardly! Better than CDEFs, but then CDEFs are junk.
quote:
> Buffs - broke
He said that.
quote:
> Stim-B's too powerful - broke
> Headshot in rifleman - broke
He said that.
quote:
> Specials kill the player unbuffed - broke
"Doctor, doctor, it hurts whenever I spam specials!" "Well, you idiot, stop
doing that!" The most powerful specials take the most out of you, so treat
them as, well, SPECIAL instead of your standard mode of attack. This is a
feature, not a bug. "Working as intended", as the devs like to say.
quote:
> Pool targeting specials - broke
> Creature Handler - broke
> Dots - broke
He said that.
quote:
> Jedi - broke
> Special Spamming - broke
> Combat Medics - way broke
He said that.
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| No1uNo 2005-04-20, 8:43 pm |
| I'm cancelling both my accounts on Chilastra.
Just bought WoW and actually enjoy it and don't have to muddle through
what's broken and what isn't. SOE has beta-tested a completely new system
for 4 weeks. That's joke in itself. They were too lazy to remove broken
SEAs, attacks and fix obviously broken elements. They need to tweak a few
things but a complete revamp is a joke. I really like WoW but its totally
different and I don't want to get into comparasin of the two because that
isn't fair to either. I can guarantee everyone that stays that when it goes
live, you'll be PAYING to beta-test an untested product. 4 weeks is not
enought to fully test it.SOE shows a pattern of bending to the whim of the
whiners rather than have conviction and complete what they started. They
then add content and make you pay for it - crappy expansion packs. BAH! My
favorite was that only JTL-enabled players ability to quickly travel between
starports. Extortion. Why not make it easy for everyone? Think the
population is thin now? Wait a couple months and see how it is then. At
least they'll have a million unoccupied houses around cities that they
refuse to delete to make it look like someone actually plays this
game....lol.
"Dirk Pfeiffer" <dirk@dbx501.de> wrote in message
news:1113771204@dirk.dbx501.de...
quote:
> Just in case this is monitored by SOE:
>
> Player names:
> Pfeiffer Dirk - Jedi Knight (a joke after CU) Krid - Master Doctor (a joke
> after CU) Kooltec - Master BH/Master Carbineer (a joke right now, even
> more
> after CU)
>
> Server : BRIA
>
> I don't give a shit anymore. I played for 2 years now. SOE has gotten like
> 500 bucks for my accounts so far. NOT ONE CENT MORE!!!
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| Has anyone got a date for the CU upgrade ? i'm grinding combat at the
moment and want to calcualete how long i have left as to whether i'll
be able to complete the 4 combat tree's i have before the CU, got
combat prow 4300 so i just need 1 more box there and then i was going
to start on HS melee another 8 boxes, i grind out 900k xp (60kxp) a
day in a couple of hours afterwork. the other 2 boxes are luck and
assembly so this won't be affected by the CU.
Thanks
"cldstrife" <cldstrife@ff7.com> wrote in message news:<SMT8e.15199$%c1.469@fed1read05>...[vbcol=seagreen]
> you are all right about it. i really wish they would scap the CU and just
> fix whats wrong with the current system.
>
>
> Malow
>
>
> "John Cosky" <JSCosky@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ZaR8e.399$2X2.170@okepread06...
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| Relativity 2005-04-26, 8:42 pm |
| Time's Up!
either Today or tomorrow. Then everyone gets to beta test this stupid CU.
Don't forget, you cancel your account by using the "register expansion"
button. (took me awhile to find it. lol) :O)
"Andy" <andy.sheppard@total.co.uk> wrote in message
news:a237a5fd.0504260759.4e95c2c0@posting.google.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Has anyone got a date for the CU upgrade ? i'm grinding combat at the
> moment and want to calcualete how long i have left as to whether i'll
> be able to complete the 4 combat tree's i have before the CU, got
> combat prow 4300 so i just need 1 more box there and then i was going
> to start on HS melee another 8 boxes, i grind out 900k xp (60kxp) a
> day in a couple of hours afterwork. the other 2 boxes are luck and
> assembly so this won't be affected by the CU.
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> "cldstrife" <cldstrife@ff7.com> wrote in message
> news:<SMT8e.15199$%c1.469@fed1read05>...
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| I've just done 120k fs xp of box 4 so i have 330k fs xp to go. What do
you wreckon on this after CU ? am i gonna be screwed and another 600
years before i complete that one box ??? everytime i come close to
jedi they change the system and i have to more or less start again
8(.....
"Tom Carman" <Tom(underscore)Carman at compuserve dot com> wrote in message news:<d436ec02lhc@news3.newsguy.com>...
quote:
> "Clawhound" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:C3U8e.129$fZ5.338@mencken.net.nih.gov...
> saber
> the
> release
>
> He said that.
>
>
> Hardly! Better than CDEFs, but then CDEFs are junk.
>
>
> He said that.
>
>
> He said that.
>
>
> "Doctor, doctor, it hurts whenever I spam specials!" "Well, you idiot, stop
> doing that!" The most powerful specials take the most out of you, so treat
> them as, well, SPECIAL instead of your standard mode of attack. This is a
> feature, not a bug. "Working as intended", as the devs like to say.
>
>
> He said that.
>
>
> He said that.
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