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Anthony Giampa

2005-03-28, 10:42 pm

Just to see if my house is still there.

I've been playing WOW since early January. I fear my house won't be there...
nor any of my sweet items including my DE-10.

Anything happened with Smugglers? =)

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Anthony Giampa; Imperiai2@cox.net
In the year 2000: "...The American bald eagle will be taken off the
protective species list,
not because it's no longer endangered, but because it is a douchebag." --
David Duchovny



David Cherry

2005-03-29, 5:18 am


"Anthony Giampa" <Imperiai2@cox.net> wrote in message
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quote:

> Just to see if my house is still there.
>
> I've been playing WOW since early January. I fear my house won't be
> there...
> nor any of my sweet items including my DE-10.
>
> Anything happened with Smugglers? =)


Your having a laught arnt you. Smugglers are waiting for the Curb


Anthony Giampa

2005-03-29, 8:02 am

At the very least I found out they take money from you automatically and pay
for your house... luckily I still had my 2 mil, my nice place, AND my
DE-10...

I almost wonder if I'd have any fun if I tried to get back in the game. I
think I'd drop 95% of my crap and move into a new small 'apartment' as it
were, as if I just got into the galaxy and was looking for work or
something. Like, 'he rolled into the galaxy with the skills of pistoleer and
a smuggler, with only the clothes on his back, a couple glass top tables,
and a DE-10 to his name.' =)

Truth be told, while I still think Star Wars had an edge graphically
especially with the characters and modifications you can do regarding
appearance/clothing, it's all very little consolation when it comes down to
how damn GOOD WoW's quest system is. When I quest in WoW, I feel as if I'm
accomplishing something. I can get up to 20 quests at a time, and work on
them by area or whatever I want. And my character gets better by simply
following the storyline. In SWG, you can get, what, IIRC, 2 missions at a
time? And they are so linear that all you can really do is go from Point A
to Point B, kill something, and go back again. WoW at the very least mixes
it up a little bit and even though most of the quests are similar it doesn't
feel like you are doing the same quest. SWG's system makes it basically that
to get better, all you must do is grind. I don't think you even NEED to
quest in SWG. And you can't get far unless you DO grind. You can do the same
quests around Mos Eisley for months, putting in a couple hours a day, and
gain hardly any skill boxes. The sheer amount of XP required is ridiculous,
especially in that you need 3 or 4 boxes that could require 1 million Xp per
full tree in some hybrid professions.*

*by the way, all these numbers are from my shoddy memory, I could be, and
probably am, off in my numbers.

Not to even mention the bugs. SOE would run the game with well-known bugs
for months without fixing them... such as the 'I jumped off my speeder bike
at this point, yet I'm running on foot from where I was 5 seconds ago'.

Broken professions from day one.

High-end content that certain combat classes could simply not compete in
(Read: Death Watch Bunker/ Pistoleer). In WoW virtually ALL the content is
accessable and playable by any class. I grinded slowly for months to get
Master Pistoleer and Master Smuggler only to find out that my character
wasn't competitive in any kind of PVP because my weapons were extremely low
damage compared to say, Rifles or Swords and that I chose not to wear
Composite (and it wouldn't have helped anyway). I wanted to have a fun time
in StarWarsLand by having a cool roguey pistol wielding guy, but I can't
have fun because they weren't designed for anything useful in the community
or in the Galactic Civil War.

I'm not gonna say I didn't have fun with SWG-- nor that I never will
again... I had lots of fun, having stuck with the game for over a year. In
fact I was on day after launch. I must have played for months not knowing
what 'grinding' was. Then I found out, and my character got better, and it
became more fun. But JTL came out, and I needed like 4 zillion XP to get
Master Privateer just to get a damn Corellian Freighter. I think I got to
4-3-3-3 Privateer and just gave up. The missions became far too unsoloable,
and then I found out I couldn't even pilot a YT solo either. SOE made JTL
too dependant on other people to play. Which is cool for some people, but I
don't want to HAVE to play with other people when I don't choose too...

BTW: I didn't intend for this to turn into a rant, seriously. I still like
SWG and the idea of it. I've ALWAYS wanted to be in the SW universe, and
it's a pretty damn cool game. WoW just seems like a more complete, and
finely crafted game. You get good as you play it. You don't really *have* to
grind that much, if you don't choose too. In SWG you *had* to. In WoW
there's basically one goal: Get 60 and win. In SWG you could be part of the
action set, the community set, or even just the economy set if you wanted.
Just so happens what I wanted had no actual purpose at all. =)

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--
Anthony Giampa; Imperiai2@cox.net
In the year 2000: "...The American bald eagle will be taken off the
protective species list,
not because it's no longer endangered, but because it is a douchebag." --
David Duchovny


"David Cherry" <david.cherry@empyrion> wrote in message
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> "Anthony Giampa" <Imperiai2@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jQ22e.23976$v26.16833@fed1read06...
>
> Your having a laught arnt you. Smugglers are waiting for the Curb
>
>



Reg LeCrisp

2005-03-29, 8:02 pm


"Anthony Giampa" <Imperiai2@cox.net> wrote in message
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quote:

>
> Not to even mention the bugs. SOE would run the game with well-known bugs
> for months without fixing them... such as the 'I jumped off my speeder
> bike
> at this point, yet I'm running on foot from where I was 5 seconds ago'.


The latter has been fixed. FINALLY !
quote:

>
>WoW just seems like a more complete, and finely crafted game.


I think WOW is a lot like COH. Minimal features, less crap to deal with
overall makes it an easier game for the developers to fine tune stuff.

SWG has so many unique stuff in the game that no other Online game comes
close. Housing, dual pvp system; combatant/special forces, a unique
resource layout for crafters that is virtually another subset game in
itself, Creature Mounts, Vehicles, Mayors/Politician skill tree, Pilot
skill tree, Player cities etc etc. Sure the quest system sucks etc, but
there are other parts of SWG that simply blows away the competition.


Alexei Boukirev

2005-03-29, 11:56 pm

"Reg LeCrisp" <x@x.com> wrote in
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quote:

>
> "Anthony Giampa" <Imperiai2@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:HGa2e.24186$v26.6929@fed1read06...
>
> I think WOW is a lot like COH. Minimal features, less crap to deal
> with overall makes it an easier game for the developers to fine tune
> stuff.
>
> SWG has so many unique stuff in the game that no other Online game
> comes close. Housing, dual pvp system; combatant/special forces, a
> unique resource layout for crafters that is virtually another subset
> game in itself, Creature Mounts, Vehicles, Mayors/Politician skill
> tree, Pilot skill tree, Player cities etc etc. Sure the quest system
> sucks etc, but there are other parts of SWG that simply blows away the
> competition.
>


From the description of CB design SOE finally understood that in order to
be intersting it does not have to be over complex. Notice how they plan
to have less bars, only damage to health, two primary damage types (other
types are additional), simpler armor system. I like it a lot. Finally!

But even WoW is not that simple. Often, devs cannot do obvious
adjustments because "everything was designed with specific numbers and
behaviour in mind" Adjusting one parameter may require redesign of all
quests and instances. Ouch!

There is no ideal MMO game (at least to me) right now. But if a
company/devs are willing to work with and communicate to players, it's a
good enough game to be in.

I'm back in SWG now since I saw that CB design

Strontium

2005-03-29, 11:56 pm


-
Anthony Giampa stood up at show-n-tell, in jQ22e.23976$v26.16833@fed1read06,
and said:
quote:

> Just to see if my house is still there.
>
> I've been playing WOW since early January. I fear my house won't be
> there... nor any of my sweet items including my DE-10.
>
> Anything happened with Smugglers? =)



I might be reactivating SWG accts, tomorrow. I love WoW, but their
engineers are XXXXing clueless. It's getting to the point of
ridiculousness....seriously!


quote:

>
> --


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' shit `outta me." - Lit


Reg LeCrisp

2005-03-30, 5:04 am


"Alexei Boukirev" <aboukirev@blah.ameritech.net> wrote in message
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quote:

>
> From the description of CB design SOE finally understood that in order to
> be intersting it does not have to be over complex.


I think they learned that buffs gives players god mode like ability, lets a
mastered profession solo 90pct of the creatures in game. Also allows anyone
with buffs and decent armor to master combat professions in weeks or days.
They also finally realized when you have 3 ham pools, and one of them cannot
be healed by "normal" means, it imbalances the system. See Master head shot
and eye shot. Why does every pvp player unbuffed all have their ham bars
maxed on the blue bar?
quote:

> There is no ideal MMO game (at least to me) right now.


I am still enjoying SWG, sure it has its faults as many online games do. I
think I would hate it more if I was still in the grind...but currently my
toons are maxed at what I want them to be, not interested in the jedi grind,
have accumulated more credits then what I know what to do with.. so now it's
basically login and look for trouble... am a Bounty hunter btw so lookin
forward to seeing Jedi sabre block toned down some.

If it wasn't for the player Bounty Hunter versus Jedi content in this game,
I would be long gone. If I want to battle artificial mobs, whats the point
of playing online?



Andy

2005-03-30, 8:43 pm

"Strontium" <abuse@your.isp.com> wrote in message news:<424a0605$0$5872$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>...
quote:

> -
> Anthony Giampa stood up at show-n-tell, in jQ22e.23976$v26.16833@fed1read06,
> and said:
>
>
>
> I might be reactivating SWG accts, tomorrow. I love WoW, but their
> engineers are XXXXing clueless. It's getting to the point of
> ridiculousness....seriously!
>
>
>

I have heard good things about wow but BH in SWG sucks at the moment,
i have kept investigation up to 4 but once knocked over by Jedi you
might as well logoff, should of kept scout traps and maybe a trap/net
for hampering jedi. unless your tkm and BH you don't realy stand a
chance unless you have a group of BH's....getting borred of the jedi
grind as well.[vbcol=seagreen]
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