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Microprose: Fleet Defender
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| Man-wai Chang 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
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Anyone remembered this old DOS game(a simulation of the F14 fighter)?
Why was it so hard to pitch or roll the F14 in that simulator? Was that
a real thing?
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| FatKat 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
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Man-wai Chang wrote:
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> Anyone remembered this old DOS game(a simulation of the F14 fighter)?
I picked it up in late 1998, when I had a Win95 machine. It was part
of Microprose's "Conquest of the Skies" (not sure of the exact name)
bundle of "Gunship 2000", "Falcon 3.0 Gold" & "1942: Pacific Air War".
I wasn't out to get it, but there was a stack of them for a buck.
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> Why was it so hard to pitch or roll the F14 in that simulator? Was that
> a real thing?
I would assume so - the F-14 is supposed to be underpowered and, being
Navy, very heavy. An ideal dogfighter it's not.
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| Andrew MacPherson 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| toylet.toylet@gmail.com (Man-wai Chang) wrote:
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> Why was it so hard to pitch or roll the F14 in that simulator?
Like all sims of that generation, the flight modelling left a little to
be desired. But heck, we had 256 colours to gaze at, what did we care
about the technical stuff? ;-)
Andrew McP
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| Canuck 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| >An ideal dogfighter it's not.
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So Top Gun wasn't real then? Tom Cruise had me so convinced as well
................ :-{
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| FatKat 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
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Canuck wrote:
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> So Top Gun wasn't real then? Tom Cruise had me so convinced as well
> ............... :-{
Even after "Cocktail"...and Oprah?
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| Canuck 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| OMG I was being sardonic.
TC has me so convinced as to his genuine humanity I think I will rush out
and by an L Ron Hubbard book.
BTW I am being sarcastic.
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> Canuck wrote:
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> Even after "Cocktail"...and Oprah?
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| Man-wai Chang 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| Andrew MacPherson wrote:
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> toylet.toylet@gmail.com (Man-wai Chang) wrote:
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> Like all sims of that generation, the flight modelling left a little to
> be desired. But heck, we had 256 colours to gaze at, what did we care
> about the technical stuff? ;-)
The game did featured an authentic radar at the back seat, I believe. Of
course, I wouldn't have a chance to ride a real F14.
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| In article <Zgawg.214089$iF6.118254@pd7tw2no>, "Canuck" <a_naismith@shaw.ca> wrote:
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>So Top Gun wasn't real then? Tom Cruise had me so convinced as well
>................ :-{
Hey, remember they were flying against fighters that were "smaller,
faster, and more maneuverable". Hey, if the F14's were so big,
slow, and clunky compared to A4's, why'd the Navy spend all that
money?
Anyway, Fleet Defender was a great game in its time.
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| Jay Williams 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
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"Dave" <dm@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Zgawg.214089$iF6.118254@pd7tw2no>, "Canuck"
> <a_naismith@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Hey, remember they were flying against fighters that were "smaller,
> faster, and more maneuverable". Hey, if the F14's were so big,
> slow, and clunky compared to A4's, why'd the Navy spend all that
> money?
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phoenix
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| Anthony 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| Hmmm Sorry but from what I've read and seen the F-14 was a very manuverable
dogfighter. Heck they had a special on the military channel about it.
"Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Andrew MacPherson wrote:
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> The game did featured an authentic radar at the back seat, I believe. Of
> course, I wouldn't have a chance to ride a real F14.
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| Andrew MacPherson 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| aevansjr3@hellno.cox.net (Anthony) wrote:
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> from what I've read and seen the F-14 was a very manuverable
> dogfighter
Admit it, you've been watching Top Gun haven't you? ;-)
Andrew McP
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| Anthony 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| oh man I hate that movie someimes. Espicallty wtih the F-5s being called
what mig 28's? lol
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> aevansjr3@hellno.cox.net (Anthony) wrote:
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> Admit it, you've been watching Top Gun haven't you? ;-)
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> Andrew McP
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| Canuck 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| Howz about those movies that depict Japanese fighters which are dressed up
Grummans and such. Don't suppose there are many real WW2 Nippon a/c still
flyable now.
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| FatKat 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
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Anthony wrote:
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> Hmmm Sorry but from what I've read and seen the F-14 was a very manuverable
> dogfighter. Heck they had a special on the military channel about it.
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Hmmm, and from what I've seen, it's constrained by its weight and by
engines which are both underpowered and (until recently anyway)
exceptionally unreliable at high angles of attack. That's how I would
define unmaneuverable.
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| FatKat 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
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Anthony wrote:
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> oh man I hate that movie someimes. Espicallty wtih the F-5s being called
> what mig 28's? lol
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I prefer the fake name - rather than them getting the name of real MiG
that doesn't look anything like the F-5. I love the way they cut from
shot-to-shot in ways tha make the jets look like they're going much
faster than they really are. (If you pay attention, most of the
maneuvers look quite gentle).
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| FatKat 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
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Canuck wrote:
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> Howz about those movies that depict Japanese fighters which are dressed up
> Grummans and such. Don't suppose there are many real WW2 Nippon a/c still
> flyable now.
I thought they used Texans - like in "Final Countdown".
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| Rockstar 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| FatKat wrote:
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> Man-wai Chang wrote:
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> I would assume so - the F-14 is supposed to be underpowered and, being
> Navy, very heavy. An ideal dogfighter it's not.
These Naval Aviators do not assume.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/...7m28tomcat.html
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| Rockstar 2006-08-03, 3:49 am |
| Canuck wrote:
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> So Top Gun wasn't real then? Tom Cruise had me so convinced as well
> ............... :-{
"Top Gun was actually fairly accurate, as far as the flying goes."
--Cmdr. ROBERT STUMPF, "Ripper", Former Blue Angels Boss and decorated
Tomcat squadron commander.
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