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| Mr. Sylvestre 2005-04-13, 8:32 pm |
| ROB wrote:
quote:
> Rather hardcore glider sim. Soon out.
> http://www.condorsoaring.com
> regards
> ROB
Thank you for the link. Looks nice. In one video, wings can be seen to
flex under stress.
While I hope that the sim will indeed prove to be "hardcore" w.r.t.
flight and aerology modelling, I think that the fun factor of online
competition might attract a decent number of simmers. If done properly,
this could be one of those addictive easy-to-learn but hard-to-master games.
I also love the idea of soaring in Slovenia's skies. Beautiful country.
Regards,
Mr. Sylvestre (My default airport in FS2004 is LJU)
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| Lil Rascal 2005-04-14, 12:31 am |
| Why not just buy Pacific Fighters, take her up to 20k feet and kill the
engines and glide down???
"ROB" <robrog@poczta.fm> wrote in message
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quote:
> Rather hardcore glider sim. Soon out.
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com
>
> regards
> ROB
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| For I said hardcore.
Użytkownik "Lil Rascal" <ert@nern.com> napisał w wiadomości
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quote:
> Why not just buy Pacific Fighters, take her up to 20k feet and kill
> the
> engines and glide down???
>
>
> "ROB" <robrog@poczta.fm> wrote in message
> news:d3is4d$r44$1@opal.futuro.pl...
>
>
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| Mr. Sylvestre 2005-04-14, 6:31 am |
| Lil Rascal wrote:
quote:
> Why not just buy Pacific Fighters, take her up to 20k feet and kill the
> engines and glide down???
>
Been there, done that. But the scenery at 20k feet in PF leaves much to
be desired. And frankly, thermals modelling in PF sucks. I still
managed to land on the carrier without restarting the engine, though 
Now maybe Oleg could improve that. I am told that as a glider, the
Avenger is by far superior to the Corsair (hint, hint).
Regards,
Mr. S.
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| James Calivar 2005-04-14, 8:32 pm |
| "Mr. Sylvestre" <MrSylvestre@worldcompany.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> Lil Rascal wrote:
> Been there, done that. But the scenery at 20k feet in PF leaves much to
> be desired. And frankly, thermals modelling in PF sucks.
Don't forget that there's also torpedo bombers missing.
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| Howard Goldstein 2005-04-15, 12:31 am |
| On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:48:11 -0400, James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
: Don't forget that there's also torpedo bombers missing.
But is there a game in the box? That's what I miss(ed) from beautiful
LOMAC. I'd do PF if I felt there was a good chance of a lengthy game
in the box, useless torp bombers or no. Dive bombers won the pacific
anyway didn't they? 
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| Aldwyn Edain 2005-04-15, 6:32 am |
| On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:27:30 GMT, hgoldste@mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein)
wrote:
quote:
>But is there a game in the box? That's what I miss(ed) from beautiful
>LOMAC. I'd do PF if I felt there was a good chance of a lengthy game
>in the box, useless torp bombers or no. Dive bombers won the pacific
>anyway didn't they?
No, the atomic bomb did. Two to be exact.
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| Aldwyn Edain 2005-04-15, 8:34 pm |
| On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:00:47 -0400, "James Calivar"
<amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
quote:
>As has been discussed ad nauseum on this and other forums, PF by itself is
>weak. But add it to IL2-Forgoitten Battles with the Aces Expansion Pack
>(IL2-FB/AEP + PF), couple it with DCG, and you've got a huge selection of
>planes, maps, missions, campaigns and theaters to pick from. There's easily
>3 years' worth of gaming in there and that includes playing daily.
>
PF should be able to stand on it's own as a sim. I paid full price for
it and not an add-on price. Where's the XXXXing torpedo bombers?
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| James Calivar 2005-04-15, 8:34 pm |
| "Howard Goldstein" <hgoldste@mpcs.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:48:11 -0400, James Calivar
<amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
quote:
> : Don't forget that there's also torpedo bombers missing.
>
> But is there a game in the box? That's what I miss(ed) from beautiful
> LOMAC. I'd do PF if I felt there was a good chance of a lengthy game
> in the box, useless torp bombers or no. Dive bombers won the pacific
> anyway didn't they?
>
As has been discussed ad nauseum on this and other forums, PF by itself is
weak. But add it to IL2-Forgoitten Battles with the Aces Expansion Pack
(IL2-FB/AEP + PF), couple it with DCG, and you've got a huge selection of
planes, maps, missions, campaigns and theaters to pick from. There's easily
3 years' worth of gaming in there and that includes playing daily.
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| James Calivar 2005-04-15, 8:34 pm |
| "Aldwyn Edain" <ae@invalid.email> wrote in message
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quote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:00:47 -0400, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
is[vbcol=seagreen]
easily[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> PF should be able to stand on it's own as a sim. I paid full price for
> it and not an add-on price. Where's the XXXXing torpedo bombers?
Don't take it out on me, XXXXXXX. Go XXXXX in the Ubi forums (or even
better, see how long it takes you to get thrown out on your XXX at
SimHQ.com) if you want anyone who gives a shit about your precious torpedos.
I'm XXXXing sick of listening to you people whine about this, as if there's
something I can personally do about it.
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| G. Patricks 2005-04-15, 8:34 pm |
| T-O-R-P-E-D-O P-L-A-N-E-S
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
quote:
>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:45:21 -0400, "James Calivar" <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>"Aldwyn Edain" <ae@invalid.email> wrote in message
>news:skrv51p9t6o33t4h69ob7gql1ukriadnbf@4ax.com...
>is
>easily
>
>Don't take it out on me, XXXXXXX. Go XXXXX in the Ubi forums (or even
>better, see how long it takes you to get thrown out on your XXX at
>SimHQ.com) if you want anyone who gives a shit about your precious torpedos.
>I'm XXXXing sick of listening to you people whine about this, as if there's
>something I can personally do about it.
>
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| Howard Goldstein 2005-04-15, 8:34 pm |
| On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:25:27 -0700, Aldwyn Edain <ae@invalid.email> wrote:
: On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:27:30 GMT, hgoldste@mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein)
: wrote:
:
:
: >But is there a game in the box? That's what I miss(ed) from beautiful
: >LOMAC. I'd do PF if I felt there was a good chance of a lengthy game
: >in the box, useless torp bombers or no. Dive bombers won the pacific
: >anyway didn't they?
:
: No, the atomic bomb did. Two to be exact.
Atomic bombs are modelled in PF?
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| Howard Goldstein 2005-04-15, 8:34 pm |
| On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:00:47 -0400, James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
: "Howard Goldstein" <hgoldste@mpcs.com> wrote in message
: news:1113524850.45740@news.queue.to...
: > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:48:11 -0400, James Calivar
: <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
: > : Don't forget that there's also torpedo bombers missing.
: >
: > But is there a game in the box? That's what I miss(ed) from beautiful
: > LOMAC. I'd do PF if I felt there was a good chance of a lengthy game
: > in the box, useless torp bombers or no. Dive bombers won the pacific
: > anyway didn't they?
: >
:
: As has been discussed ad nauseum on this and other forums, PF by itself is
: weak. But add it to IL2-Forgoitten Battles with the Aces Expansion Pack
: (IL2-FB/AEP + PF), couple it with DCG, and you've got a huge selection of
: planes, maps, missions, campaigns and theaters to pick from. There's easily
: 3 years' worth of gaming in there and that includes playing daily.
Confession: I'm too lazy to try to cobble these addons and others from
my original version of IL2. Is there a "gold" edition with everything
included in one box?
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| Aldwyn Edain 2005-04-15, 8:34 pm |
| On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:40:21 GMT, hgoldste@mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein)
wrote:
quote:
>Atomic bombs are modelled in PF?
No, because PF's doesn't really model the Pacific War. It's just a
dog fighting sim set in the pacific of WWII.
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| Aldwyn Edain 2005-04-15, 8:34 pm |
| On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:45:21 -0400, "James Calivar"
<amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
quote:
>Don't take it out on me, XXXXXXX. Go XXXXX in the Ubi forums (or even
>better, see how long it takes you to get thrown out on your XXX at
>SimHQ.com) if you want anyone who gives a shit about your precious torpedos.
>I'm XXXXing sick of listening to you people whine about this, as if there's
>something I can personally do about it.
>
You're a XXXXing IL2/PF fanboi so who better to take it out on? Oleg
Maddox and Co. don't give a damn about modelling a realistic Pacific
Air War sim. They just want your money.
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| James Calivar 2005-04-16, 12:31 am |
| "Aldwyn Edain" <ae@invalid.email> wrote in message
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quote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:45:21 -0400, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> You're a XXXXing IL2/PF fanboi so who better to take it out on? Oleg
> Maddox and Co. don't give a damn about modelling a realistic Pacific
> Air War sim. They just want your money.
Is that the best you can muster, son? Calling me a "fanboi"? Big deal -
take a XXXXing number and get in line, you complaining little twit. In the
meantime I'll be over here FLYING MY DIVE BOMBERS!!!
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| James Calivar 2005-04-16, 12:31 am |
| "Howard Goldstein" <hgoldste@mpcs.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:00:47 -0400, James Calivar
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> : "Howard Goldstein" <hgoldste@mpcs.com> wrote in message
> : news:1113524850.45740@news.queue.to...
> : > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:48:11 -0400, James Calivar
> : <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> : > : Don't forget that there's also torpedo bombers missing.
> : >
> : > But is there a game in the box? That's what I miss(ed) from beautiful
> : > LOMAC. I'd do PF if I felt there was a good chance of a lengthy game
> : > in the box, useless torp bombers or no. Dive bombers won the pacific
> : > anyway didn't they?
> : >
> :
> : As has been discussed ad nauseum on this and other forums, PF by itself
> is
> : weak. But add it to IL2-Forgoitten Battles with the Aces Expansion
> Pack
> : (IL2-FB/AEP + PF), couple it with DCG, and you've got a huge selection
> of
> : planes, maps, missions, campaigns and theaters to pick from. There's
> easily
> : 3 years' worth of gaming in there and that includes playing daily.
>
> Confession: I'm too lazy to try to cobble these addons and others from
> my original version of IL2. Is there a "gold" edition with everything
> included in one box?
The "Gold" Edition of IL2-FB includes Aces Expansion Pack. It does not
include Pacific Fighters. $29.99 for the Gold Edition, $39.99 (or probably
less by now) for PF.
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| For I said hardcore.
Użytkownik "Lil Rascal" <ert@nern.com> napisał w wiadomości
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quote:
> Why not just buy Pacific Fighters, take her up to 20k feet and kill
> the
> engines and glide down???
>
>
> "ROB" <robrog@poczta.fm> wrote in message
> news:d3is4d$r44$1@opal.futuro.pl...
>
>
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| Aldwyn Edain 2005-04-16, 3:31 am |
| On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 03:02:35 GMT, "James Calivar"
<amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
quote:
>Is that the best you can muster, son? Calling me a "fanboi"? Big deal -
>take a XXXXing number and get in line, you complaining little twit. In the
>meantime I'll be over here FLYING MY DIVE BOMBERS!!!
>
I bet you miss the target 99% of the time. That's why we need torpedo
bombers, much more accurate, and daring.
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| James Calivar 2005-04-16, 8:32 pm |
| "Aldwyn Edain" <ae@invalid.email> wrote in message
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quote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 03:02:35 GMT, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> I bet you miss the target 99% of the time. That's why we need torpedo
> bombers, much more accurate, and daring.
Boo hoo, Poor Aldwyn - can't find anyone to listen to his torpedo rants
anymore, so he takes to cutting down anyone who actually plays IL2.
Big deal.
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| Aldwyn Edain 2005-04-16, 8:32 pm |
| On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:19:33 GMT, "James Calivar"
<amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
quote:
>Boo hoo, Poor Aldwyn - can't find anyone to listen to his torpedo rants
>anymore, so he takes to cutting down anyone who actually plays IL2.
>
>Big deal.
>
DIVE BOMBERS ARE FOR PUSSIES!
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"Aldwyn Edain" <ae@invalid.email> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:19:33 GMT, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
I must admit I never bought Pacific Fighters becuase I didnt really like IL2
or Forgotten Battles - not enough immersion for me. But if I had and
subsequently found out that it didnt include torpedo planes I would have
took it bcak to the shop for a refund. I suggest you sell the game on. I
think people are right to complain if the game they buy doesnt live up to a
minimum expected standard. Not having torpedo planes in a Pacific flight
simulation is pretty damn bad game design IMO. The only way to show the
developers that you dont like what they have done is either to take back the
game or to make damn sure other people dont buy it unless they know what to
expect.
We live in a democracy.
Nats
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| James Calivar 2005-04-18, 3:31 am |
| "Aldwyn Edain" <ae@invalid.email> wrote in message
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quote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:45:21 -0400, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> You're a XXXXing IL2/PF fanboi so who better to take it out on? Oleg
> Maddox and Co. don't give a damn about modelling a realistic Pacific
> Air War sim. They just want your money.
Is that the best you can muster, son? Calling me a "fanboi"? Big deal -
take a XXXXing number and get in line, you complaining little twit. In the
meantime I'll be over here FLYING MY DIVE BOMBERS!!!
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| Aldwyn Edain 2005-04-18, 6:30 am |
| On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 03:02:35 GMT, "James Calivar"
<amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
quote:
>Is that the best you can muster, son? Calling me a "fanboi"? Big deal -
>take a XXXXing number and get in line, you complaining little twit. In the
>meantime I'll be over here FLYING MY DIVE BOMBERS!!!
>
I bet you miss the target 99% of the time. That's why we need torpedo
bombers, much more accurate, and daring.
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| James Calivar 2005-04-19, 6:30 am |
| "Aldwyn Edain" <ae@invalid.email> wrote in message
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quote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 03:02:35 GMT, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> I bet you miss the target 99% of the time. That's why we need torpedo
> bombers, much more accurate, and daring.
Boo hoo, Poor Aldwyn - can't find anyone to listen to his torpedo rants
anymore, so he takes to cutting down anyone who actually plays IL2.
Big deal.
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