quote:

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>I stayed awake most of last night thinking about her murder. Does that
>sound like something a troll would do?

quote:

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>All right then. Glad we were able to clarify it. For a minute I thought
>I was being insulted.

quote:

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>I stayed awake most of last night thinking about her murder. Does that
>sound like something a troll would do?
>While I fully expected a reaction to what I said, this situation pains
>me deeply. I do wonder what other Americans are thinking about this.
>Those who are on the side of an American life join me in expressing
>indignation over this. Or are our lives that cheap that people can take
>it away for inconvenience? Even convicted murderers on death row are
>given food and water while Terry is denied it. She is denied due
>process, const. rights and the murder by our government.

quote:

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> I stayed awake most of last night thinking about her murder. Does that
> sound like something a troll would do?
> While I fully expected a reaction to what I said, this situation pains
> me deeply. I do wonder what other Americans are thinking about this.
> Those who are on the side of an American life join me in expressing
> indignation over this. Or are our lives that cheap that people can
> take it away for inconvenience? Even convicted murderers on death row
> are given food and water while Terry is denied it. She is denied due
> process, const. rights and the murder by our government.

quote:

---

> I stayed awake most of last night thinking about her murder. Does that
> sound like something a troll would do?
> While I fully expected a reaction to what I said, this situation pains
> me deeply. I do wonder what other Americans are thinking about this.
> Those who are on the side of an American life join me in expressing
> indignation over this. Or are our lives that cheap that people can
> take it away for inconvenience? Even convicted murderers on death row
> are given food and water while Terry is denied it. She is denied due
> process, const. rights and the murder by our government.

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> Stockman91790@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
> It makes me sick.
>
> How ironic, the final hours seem to be occuring during the Easter
> weekend....

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> Don Burnette wrote:
>
> So you dont believe in living wills?

quote:

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> Don Burnette wrote:
>
> So you dont believe in living wills?

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> artie beamer wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Yes, of course I do. I think everyone needs to have a living will.
>
> There is no recorded living will in this case, only the word of her
> husband...

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> Don Burnette wrote:
>
> That is a lie. There are 2 others who testified that they had similar
> conversations with Terri. And all of their testimony held up in court.
> The Schindlers have been unable to dispute any of their claims for the
> last 10 years.

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> artie beamer wrote:
>
>
> Yes, of course I do. I think everyone needs to have a living will.
>
> There is no recorded living will in this case, only the word of her
> husband...

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> artie beamer wrote:
>
>
> Really? I must have missed seing news of their testimony..
>
> Last night, FNC had a health worker on, that had worked with her and
> Michael a few years ago. She stated that Michael had expressed to her he
> did not know what to do with her, as they had never discussed death and
> what she would want to do in a case like this...
>
> The whole thing is a travesty imho.. to me, it is not like there is a
> machine pumping air into her, or beating her heart for her, where she is
> lying comatose and will die upon removal fairly rapidly. She responds to
> movement, and at least from what I have seen seems to recognize family, by
> the change in expression on her face, albeit so slight.
>
> They had a woman and her husband on the other night, she had been in a
> similar situation - she stated how she was completely alert and aware of
> her surroundings and what was going on, but could not convey any of that
> through her body... she was trapped inside, and could not communicate or
> let people know she was completely aware. She even had surgery without
> anesthesia, as the doctors thought she was not aware of anything. But she
> was...
>
> She did recover, and is leading a normal life now. I just couldn't imagine
> being in a position like that, and pray that Terri is not going through
> the same.
>
> In my mind, if there is not "proof" of a written living will, all efforts
> should be made for the side of life...
>
> One things is for sure, I will be doing a living will. I believe in them,
> but it is one thing I have never gotten around to actually doing, and I
> have been through some scary stuff last few years. And I don't think I
> have ever conveyed to anyone, what my desire and wishes would be should I
> be in a similar situation.
>
> I know my mother has one, and in hers, she does not want to be kept alive
> by a machine - the only thing she does not want taken away, is food and
> water - hers has always stipulated this.
>
> Unfortunately, in Terri's case, no matter which side prevails, there will
> always be controversy.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Don Burnette
>
> "When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the
> way of the man that's doing it."
>
>

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> I saw one other person say it besides the Husband not two others. Its
> still hearsay and it wouldnt hold water in a trial...
>
> And the nurse who took care of Terry for 15 months said she directly
> over heard the Husband say "When is that XXXXX going to die".
>
> Take it for what its worth but marriage is a joke and the idea that a
> piece of paper makes it legal to kill someone over the objections of
> the PARENTS THAT BROUGHT HER INTO THIS WORLD is plain retarded and
> disgusts me.

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> I saw one other person say it besides the Husband not two others. Its
> still hearsay and it wouldnt hold water in a trial...
>
> And the nurse who took care of Terry for 15 months said she directly
> over heard the Husband say "When is that XXXXX going to die".
>
> Take it for what its worth but marriage is a joke and the idea that a
> piece of paper makes it legal to kill someone over the objections of
> the PARENTS THAT BROUGHT HER INTO THIS WORLD is plain retarded and
> disgusts me.

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> Mitch_A wrote:
>
>
> Very good point...
>
> Don
>
>
>

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> I saw one other person say it besides the Husband not two others. Its still
> hearsay and it wouldnt hold water in a trial...
>
> And the nurse who took care of Terry for 15 months said she directly over
> heard the Husband say "When is that XXXXX going to die".
>
> Take it for what its worth but marriage is a joke and the idea that a piece
> of paper makes it legal to kill someone over the objections of the PARENTS
> THAT BROUGHT HER INTO THIS WORLD is plain retarded and disgusts me.
>
> How XXXXing sad is it the Democrats demand her death because they are
> dickhead politicians that are lost in space.
>
>
> Mitch

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> Mitch_A wrote:
>
> It is not hearsay. This is admissable in a trail because TERRI CANT TALK.
> How else are they gonna find out what she said? Go to law school and learn
> its not hearsay. Its just another buzzword. There is a florida statute
> that says in the event someone doesnt have a living will then the SPOUSE
> is the one that decides, then the children, then the parents. THAT WAS
> PASSED IN 1992. HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE HAVE USED IT.

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> As a basic human right we have a right to "LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE
> PERSUIT OF HAPPYNESS."

quote:

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>artie beamer wrote:
>
>
>Really? I must have missed seing news of their testimony..

quote:

---

>
>Last night, FNC had a health worker on, that had worked with her and Michael
>a few years ago. She stated that Michael had expressed to her he did not
>know what to do with her, as they had never discussed death and what she
>would want to do in a case like this...
>
>The whole thing is a travesty imho.. to me, it is not like there is a
>machine pumping air into her, or beating her heart for her, where she is
>lying comatose and will die upon removal fairly rapidly. She responds to
>movement, and at least from what I have seen seems to recognize family, by
>the change in expression on her face, albeit so slight.
>
>They had a woman and her husband on the other night, she had been in a
>similar situation - she stated how she was completely alert and aware of her
>surroundings and what was going on, but could not convey any of that through
>her body... she was trapped inside, and could not communicate or let people
>know she was completely aware. She even had surgery without anesthesia, as
>the doctors thought she was not aware of anything. But she was...
>
>She did recover, and is leading a normal life now. I just couldn't imagine
>being in a position like that, and pray that Terri is not going through the
>same.
>
>In my mind, if there is not "proof" of a written living will, all efforts
>should be made for the side of life...
>
>One things is for sure, I will be doing a living will. I believe in them,
>but it is one thing I have never gotten around to actually doing, and I have
>been through some scary stuff last few years. And I don't think I have ever
>conveyed to anyone, what my desire and wishes would be should I be in a
>similar situation.
>
>I know my mother has one, and in hers, she does not want to be kept alive by
>a machine - the only thing she does not want taken away, is food and water -
>hers has always stipulated this.
>
>Unfortunately, in Terri's case, no matter which side prevails, there will
>always be controversy.

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>Mitch_A wrote:
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>
>
>Very good point...

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>
>Don
>
>

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> Terri has a right to die in piece.
>
>
>

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> I stayed awake most of last night thinking about her murder. Does that
> sound like something a troll would do?
> While I fully expected a reaction to what I said, this situation pains
> me deeply. I do wonder what other Americans are thinking about this.
> Those who are on the side of an American life join me in expressing
> indignation over this. Or are our lives that cheap that people can
> take it away for inconvenience? Even convicted murderers on death row
> are given food and water while Terry is denied it. She is denied due
> process, const. rights and the murder by our government.

quote:

---

> I stayed awake most of last night thinking about her murder. Does that
> sound like something a troll would do?
> While I fully expected a reaction to what I said, this situation pains
> me deeply. I do wonder what other Americans are thinking about this.
> Those who are on the side of an American life join me in expressing
> indignation over this. Or are our lives that cheap that people can
> take it away for inconvenience? Even convicted murderers on death row
> are given food and water while Terry is denied it. She is denied due
> process, const. rights and the murder by our government.

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>Do you need a law to keep you alive or does a statement of rights do
>it?
>Is the Dec. of Indep. a worthless piece of paper or guide our laws.
>What if it said a different statement like "we have a right to murder
>you anytime we feel like doing it?"
>Liberty has nothing to do with life or death- that is what the life
>word has to do with it.
>Your statement if put in a living will would certainly be your wish if
>in Terri's state. Maybe for someone else they may wish to die or live.
>If you are so anxious to murder someone why don't you smash in her head
>with a hammer, hang her, or shoot her in her eye? Or is it just ok if
>someone does it for you based on your wish alone? The ones who really
>deserve to die are on death row where someone who killed in a minute
>spend the rest of their lives and die of old age if they ever are to
>die. Hitler killed "defective" humans- do we now follow in those
>footsteps? We are AMERICANS- we don't do that. WE DON'T DO THAT. I
>PROTEST THE MURDER OF TERRI SHIAVO. SHE HAS A RIGHT TO LIVE- IT IS A
>BASIC RIGHT.

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> Subject: Re: OT: Shiavo right to live
> From: "Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net>
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim
>
> Mitch_A wrote:
>
>
> Very good point...
>
> Don

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> I saw one other person say it besides the Husband not two others. Its
> still hearsay and it wouldnt hold water in a trial...

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> Do you need a law to keep you alive or does a statement of rights do
> it?

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> What if it said a different statement like "we have a right to murder
> you anytime we feel like doing it?"

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> You must have known this is coming.
> I can not not say the following.
> As a proud American, this day I am NOT so proud and hide my head in
> shame.

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> As a basic human right we have a right to "LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE
> PERSUIT OF HAPPYNESS."

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> Shiavo is an American citizen and according to our judicial branch she
> is denied the right to life. Our executive branch has done all they
> could to save her, and our congress has done their best for her. I am
> not a religious person, I do not support any group, I am not on the
> right or left. It is insanity to oppose people trying to save her life.
> I personally have treated many people with her state of awarness- she
> is not unique. I have stopped life support on orders from a doctor in
> the past. I have watched news footage of her and can make up my own
> mind on her condition. I have listened to doctors who have conflicting
> opinions.

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> SHE IS A HUMAN BEING WITH THE RIGHT TO LIFE.

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> Our lives should NOT depend on our awareness- otherwise we all could be
> killed every time we are asleep and not aware of our surroundings. What
> the judicial is doing is killing her, plain murder and do not think of
> it in any other way, or justifing or rationalizing it. Not feeding her
> is the same as taking away her life- the same as taking away the air we
> breath from someone else.

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> It does not matter the degree of cruelty when killing her- the result
> is the same and expected- death.
> I have heard the rationalization- she has lived for 15 yrs. like this

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> and that is long enough. Who is going to care for her?
> The answer is WE are to care for her. As her parents want to care for
> her- she is one of ours and our government is responsible for her.
> We do not tolerate suicide and we should not tolerate murder- but in
> her case we are making an exception it seems.

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> Her mother has said "stop this insanity" and I agree it is insanity.
> When she dies, not if she dies, the judges involved will be guilty of
> her murder.
> I am ashamed that people are supporting the murder of Terry Shiavo who
> is one of us, who is protected by our Constitution with a right to
> life.
> I am not proud to be an American on this day.

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>Stockman91790@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>I am almost sick.
>

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> Of course it is murder- taking away someones life without due process
> is murder.

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> It does not matter just what Terris wishes are by itself- suicide is
> not condoned either.

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> It takes an agreement between a patient, a doctor treating her, and
> family to terminate her life for good reasons.

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> I, for one, who has medical training do not agree as to her state

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> seeing her on tv. Of course I am not a dr., and do not have the
> training that a dr. does.

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> I do not accept the opinion that her
> reactions are random. I have seen her respond to stimulit and no one
> can tell me different about it regardless of their status.

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> Even a dr. can be prosecuted for physican assisted
> suicide.

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> Stockman91790@yahoo.com wrote:
process[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> There has been due process up to the Supreme Court.

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is[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> If I'm in a PVS with no hope of recovery then I must be kept alive
> against my wishes? I have to give up my beliefs to the religious
> beliefs of others?

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>
> The patient already agreed, the doctor obviously agreed by allowing

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> feeding tube removed and her closest kin, her husband, agreed.

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> from
>
> What we see on TV can be very misleading. How long ago were the
> segments taped? And she was obviously groomed (makeup) for TV.

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one[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> You cannot make an accurate diagnosis without seeing the patient
> personally.

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>
> Not in Oregon. Only if the rest of the nation were as enlightened as
> the people in OR.

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> You are confusing due process under the law with a judges ruling on
> putting back a feeding tube or refusing to even hear the case.

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> Not on a speeding ticket but on a death sentence-How loud would you
> scream if they did that to you?

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> She stated no wishes that would hold up in a court of law.

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> No one is talking about beliefs.

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> The pt. gave no legal indication on the matter

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> Yes it can but if her condition has changed then where are the recent
> segments and why would they now mislead her apparant condition? Why
> does her father say they will not allow recent pix of her? He has
> stated she is responsive, and begging for help- show him wrong on

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> life or death matter.

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> I don't see any evidence of grooming- I can see
> all the imperfections in her face.

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> They have disregarded any dr. that says she is
> aware and accepted only those who differ.

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> She is in Florida, not Oregon and I am not familiar with Oregon law.

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> Stockman91790@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> [snip!]
>
> This was not a criminal case. The judges obviously considered both
> sides and consistantly ruled that there wasn't enough cause to deny
> what Mr. Shiavo said were his wife's wishes.

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>
> Your analogy has no bearing on the facts of the case.

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>
> The courts disagreed with you. Without having the court case and
> transcripts in front of me I'd have to side with the judgments of the
> courts over your opinion.

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>
> Religious beliefs certainly are a factor. Bush and many republicans

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> evangelical christians.

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>
> Again, the courts do not agree.

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recent[vbcol=seagreen]
> this
>
> All unsubstantiated allegations that you've surmised through media
> reports.

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>
> She was wearing lipstick and her hair was combed.

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>
> Again, unsubstantiated allegations.

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law.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Oregon passed a death with dignity law. So far over 300 people have
> used it. However, religious zealots (Bush, former AG Ashcroft, etc)

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> fighting it, though they've lost in every court and its now before

quote:

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> Supreme Court.

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> Stockman91790@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> [snip!]
>
> This was not a criminal case. The judges obviously considered both
> sides and consistantly ruled that there wasn't enough cause to deny
> what Mr. Shiavo said were his wife's wishes.
>
>
> Your analogy has no bearing on the facts of the case.
>
>
> The courts disagreed with you. Without having the court case and
> transcripts in front of me I'd have to side with the judgments of the
> courts over your opinion.
>
>
> Religious beliefs certainly are a factor. Bush and many republicans are
> evangelical christians.
>
>
> Again, the courts do not agree.
>
> this
>
> All unsubstantiated allegations that you've surmised through media
> reports.
>
>
> She was wearing lipstick and her hair was combed.
>
>
> Again, unsubstantiated allegations.
>
>
> Oregon passed a death with dignity law. So far over 300 people have
> used it. However, religious zealots (Bush, former AG Ashcroft, etc) are
> fighting it, though they've lost in every court and its now before the
> Supreme Court.
>
> Tara
> --
> Yager review and screen shots
> http://users4.ev1.net/~taragem/yager.htm
>

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> Stockman91790@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> [snip!]
>
> This was not a criminal case. The judges obviously considered both
> sides and consistantly ruled that there wasn't enough cause to deny
> what Mr. Shiavo said were his wife's wishes.
>
>
> Your analogy has no bearing on the facts of the case.
>
>
> The courts disagreed with you. Without having the court case and
> transcripts in front of me I'd have to side with the judgments of the
> courts over your opinion.
>
>
> Religious beliefs certainly are a factor. Bush and many republicans are
> evangelical christians.
>
>
> Again, the courts do not agree.
>
> this
>
> All unsubstantiated allegations that you've surmised through media
> reports.
>
>
> She was wearing lipstick and her hair was combed.
>
>
> Again, unsubstantiated allegations.
>
>
> Oregon passed a death with dignity law. So far over 300 people have
> used it. However, religious zealots (Bush, former AG Ashcroft, etc) are
> fighting it, though they've lost in every court and its now before the
> Supreme Court.
>
> Tara
> --
> Yager review and screen shots
> http://users4.ev1.net/~taragem/yager.htm
>

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> Due Process does apply here. It applies in any legal proceeding by
> operation of the 14th amendment due process clause, whether criminal

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> civil in nature.

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> Be that as it may, imagine yourself in her position someone telling

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> that a stranger decided to murder you and you saying NO- but no words
> coming out of your mind. Would you think, oh well, they decided that

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> what they will do because you wanted it. But they are the "COURTS"

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> they say it is ok to kill you.

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> no one is claiming religious grounds to do it.

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> What allegations have I made? In my opinion she is responsive based

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> what I have seen

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> Did that really change anything? We don't kill someone because they

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> ugly- makeup or not.

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> You, evidently have not seen tv interviews with some of the
> neurosurgeons who said she is responsive.

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>From what I understand, none of these neurosurgeons have spent more

quote:

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>I stayed awake most of last night thinking about her murder. Does that
>sound like something a troll would do?

quote:

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> Don Burnette wrote:
>
> So you dont believe in living wills?

quote:

---

>I stayed awake most of last night thinking about her murder. Does that
>sound like something a troll would do?
>While I fully expected a reaction to what I said, this situation pains
>me deeply. I do wonder what other Americans are thinking about this.
>Those who are on the side of an American life join me in expressing
>indignation over this. Or are our lives that cheap that people can take
>it away for inconvenience? Even convicted murderers on death row are
>given food and water while Terry is denied it. She is denied due
>process, const. rights and the murder by our government.

quote:

---

> I stayed awake most of last night thinking about her murder. Does that
> sound like something a troll would do?
> While I fully expected a reaction to what I said, this situation pains
> me deeply. I do wonder what other Americans are thinking about this.
> Those who are on the side of an American life join me in expressing
> indignation over this. Or are our lives that cheap that people can
> take it away for inconvenience? Even convicted murderers on death row
> are given food and water while Terry is denied it. She is denied due
> process, const. rights and the murder by our government.

quote:

---

> Stockman91790@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
> It makes me sick.
>
> How ironic, the final hours seem to be occuring during the Easter
> weekend....

quote:

---

> Don Burnette wrote:
>
> So you dont believe in living wills?

quote:

---

> Don Burnette wrote:
>
> That is a lie. There are 2 others who testified that they had similar
> conversations with Terri. And all of their testimony held up in court.
> The Schindlers have been unable to dispute any of their claims for the
> last 10 years.

quote:

---

> Mitch_A wrote:
>
>
> Very good point...
>
> Don
>
>
>

quote:

---

> I saw one other person say it besides the Husband not two others. Its still
> hearsay and it wouldnt hold water in a trial...
>
> And the nurse who took care of Terry for 15 months said she directly over
> heard the Husband say "When is that XXXXX going to die".
>
> Take it for what its worth but marriage is a joke and the idea that a piece
> of paper makes it legal to kill someone over the objections of the PARENTS
> THAT BROUGHT HER INTO THIS WORLD is plain retarded and disgusts me.
>
> How XXXXing sad is it the Democrats demand her death because they are
> dickhead politicians that are lost in space.
>
>
> Mitch

quote:

---

> As a basic human right we have a right to "LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE
> PERSUIT OF HAPPYNESS."

quote:

---

>artie beamer wrote:
>
>
>Really? I must have missed seing news of their testimony..

quote:

---

>
>Last night, FNC had a health worker on, that had worked with her and Michael
>a few years ago. She stated that Michael had expressed to her he did not
>know what to do with her, as they had never discussed death and what she
>would want to do in a case like this...
>
>The whole thing is a travesty imho.. to me, it is not like there is a
>machine pumping air into her, or beating her heart for her, where she is
>lying comatose and will die upon removal fairly rapidly. She responds to
>movement, and at least from what I have seen seems to recognize family, by
>the change in expression on her face, albeit so slight.
>
>They had a woman and her husband on the other night, she had been in a
>similar situation - she stated how she was completely alert and aware of her
>surroundings and what was going on, but could not convey any of that through
>her body... she was trapped inside, and could not communicate or let people
>know she was completely aware. She even had surgery without anesthesia, as
>the doctors thought she was not aware of anything. But she was...
>
>She did recover, and is leading a normal life now. I just couldn't imagine
>being in a position like that, and pray that Terri is not going through the
>same.
>
>In my mind, if there is not "proof" of a written living will, all efforts
>should be made for the side of life...
>
>One things is for sure, I will be doing a living will. I believe in them,
>but it is one thing I have never gotten around to actually doing, and I have
>been through some scary stuff last few years. And I don't think I have ever
>conveyed to anyone, what my desire and wishes would be should I be in a
>similar situation.
>
>I know my mother has one, and in hers, she does not want to be kept alive by
>a machine - the only thing she does not want taken away, is food and water -
>hers has always stipulated this.
>
>Unfortunately, in Terri's case, no matter which side prevails, there will
>always be controversy.

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>Very good point...

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>Don
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>Do you need a law to keep you alive or does a statement of rights do
>it?
>Is the Dec. of Indep. a worthless piece of paper or guide our laws.
>What if it said a different statement like "we have a right to murder
>you anytime we feel like doing it?"
>Liberty has nothing to do with life or death- that is what the life
>word has to do with it.
>Your statement if put in a living will would certainly be your wish if
>in Terri's state. Maybe for someone else they may wish to die or live.
>If you are so anxious to murder someone why don't you smash in her head
>with a hammer, hang her, or shoot her in her eye? Or is it just ok if
>someone does it for you based on your wish alone? The ones who really
>deserve to die are on death row where someone who killed in a minute
>spend the rest of their lives and die of old age if they ever are to
>die. Hitler killed "defective" humans- do we now follow in those
>footsteps? We are AMERICANS- we don't do that. WE DON'T DO THAT. I
>PROTEST THE MURDER OF TERRI SHIAVO. SHE HAS A RIGHT TO LIVE- IT IS A
>BASIC RIGHT.

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> Jay Williams wrote:
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> or
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> I didn't say there was no due process (as you stated) -- my beef was
> calling it a "criminal" case.
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> Tara
> --
> Yager review and screen shots
> http://users4.ev1.net/~taragem/yager.htm
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> artie beamer wrote:
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> Yes, of course I do. I think everyone needs to have a living will.
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> There is no recorded living will in this case, only the word of her
> husband...

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> I highly
> recommend reading it and thank Chuck for posting it originally.
>
> The website www.abstractappeal.com has a geat deal of useful
> information on this case and Florida law in general.

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>It has nothing to do with religion or personal wishes-

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> My point: life is valuable- we can't throw it away without a

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> reason.

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> There is now a final chance in court again but I am afraid that it is
> too late as she is now at death's door.