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>
> Mr. Sylvestre wrote:
> denoting
> It would
> Canadian
> way,
>
> Actually it's a cliche for changing the subject. I.E. showing you are
> no longer interested in the current topic.
>

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>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4169107.stm
>
>A sad sad day for republicans everywhere.

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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4169107.stm
>
> A sad sad day for republicans everywhere.

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> nospam@nospam.com wrote:
>
> Please don't. That could trigger a civil war there. Oh, wait...
>
>
> This one is a bit cryptic for us non-americans. I take it you are
> referring to the Doug Avery poem "A Black Marble Wall" ? Sadly

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>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~dougavery/poems.html#Black
>
> Regards,
> Mr. Sylvestre

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>And judging from your reply you can't think.
>Your comments about this show you have no viewpoint at all.

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>And you have no opinion at all. The reports stated or should have
>stated that "none were found"- that is a far cry from "none existed".
>We have positive proof that they did exist and were not accounted for-
>ask the Kurds about poison gas.

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>Grasshopper, how many pebbles do I hold in my hand? Why did we find
>gas masks that they had stored- did they think we would use poison gas
>against them. Yeah, right.

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> And you have no opinion at all. The reports stated or should have
> stated that "none were found"- that is a far cry from "none existed".
> We have positive proof that they did exist and were not accounted for-
> ask the Kurds about poison gas.
> Grasshopper, how many pebbles do I hold in my hand? Why did we find
> gas masks that they had stored- did they think we would use poison gas
> against them. Yeah, right.
>

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>
> "James Calivar" <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:TUFFd.5972$KJ2.4206@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> Your "long run" is likely to be twenty years of civil war. I wouldn't
> call that freedom. May or may not be better than Saddam.
>
> Stocky is in part right in that we aren't committed enough What he fails
> to realize is that it's not the tactics, its the number of troops we
> failed to commit to get the job done.. If we didn't have 250.000 troops
> to commit we should have asked congress to add divisions to the army
> before invading Iraq.>

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> http://tinyurl.com/7ots
>

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> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:13:07 GMT, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Denial is a wonderful thing.

Something with which you're all too familar, I'm sure. It must feel really
good that this "proof" that there never were any WMDs in Iraq (yeah, sure,
keep telling yourself that) somehow vindicates your reticence to enter that
country in the first place.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Maybe in 10 or 15 years they may have something that looks like
> freedom. GW XXXXed up that country in a major way.
>

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> Oh did anyone see the report from the CIA think tank (hmmm) today that
> says Iraq has "Become a terrorist magnet and training ground"
> replacing Afghanistan and giving them first hand knowledge and
> experience.
>

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> So good old GW attacked a country that didn't have terrorist,

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> didn't have WMD

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> didn't have atomic weapons

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> didn't have anything to do with 9/11and

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> turned it into a terrorist training ground.

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> And to think he
> did all for the people of Iraq (well the ones he doesn't kill)
>
> What guy !

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> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:08:48 GMT, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> You opinion isn't worth sh*t.
> EVERY report that has come out states very clearly their were NONE.
> Start facing reality

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>
>So Hitler who are you talking to in this reply?
>BTW you would have made a great SS officer

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>
> CIA Think Tank...oxymoron?
>
> PAPADoc
>
> My Blog all about politics and the terror war.
> www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html

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><no@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:2i6hu0h5koobps8anoa9flho67n6hvqpd2@4ax.com...
>
>Wrong.
>

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>
><no@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:2s4hu01bd62b6g7acgn13leus2lff8oto2@4ax.com...
>
>Something with which you're all too familar, I'm sure. It must feel really
>good that this "proof" that there never were any WMDs in Iraq (yeah, sure,
>keep telling yourself that) somehow vindicates your reticence to enter that
>country in the first place.

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>

Nice assumption there but even if they do, that was not the reason for
invading Iraq so quit trying to justify that Bullshit reasoning for
invading Iraq. They lived under Saddam for 30 years what took so long
?
Obviously if we wanted to save the people of Iraq we could have done
it much sooner, don't you think?
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>Hardly. People there certainly don't have to worry abut the Saddam Gestapo
>waking them up in the middle of the night anymore.

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>In any event, it was
>estimated that any insurgency takes approximately 9 years to quell in its
>entirety. I'd say we're a little less than a third of the way done.

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>
>
>At least we've got run of the country. Let the terrorists come. We will
>continue to kill them, unlike the situation which you would have, where they
>are free to run amok in a country without any worry of being caught or
>punished at all.
>

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>
>Still highly debatable

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>
>
>DID. But I guess the sarin-tipped shells arent' enough for you?

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>
>
>Not yet.

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>
>
>Unprovable.

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>
>
>No. Al Quadea, and more popularly, Zarquawi (or however they're spelling
>that raghead's name these days) turned Iraq into a terrorist training
>ground. If we had invaded Iran instead, you would see the identical
>situation there.

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>
>
>Keep that head in the sand, emu. We'll cover for you while the rest of your
>ilk is hiding.

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>
>James
>

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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:49:49 GMT, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Show one that says they were there any later than 1996
>
>
>

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><no@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:q1rku09er86nkrh0kjvjb4591erarfvsvp@4ax.com...
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Done with this conversation. Tired of talking to a no-name idiot.

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>LOL
>Why don't you just say
>"I couldn't find any so now I'm running away to hide so that I don't
>have to face reality."
>
>Bye Bye Jimmy

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> And you have no opinion at all. The reports stated or should have
> stated that "none were found"- that is a far cry from "none existed".
> We have positive proof that they did exist and were not accounted for-
> ask the Kurds about poison gas.
> Grasshopper, how many pebbles do I hold in my hand? Why did we find
> gas masks that they had stored- did they think we would use poison gas
> against them. Yeah, right.
>

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> Unwinnable? Wow you mean that a band of rag tag misfits blowing themselves up
> can defeat the most powerful nation in the world? hehe...

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>Spain 1808... The same speech was in Napoleon mouth... 1814, he left Spain.
>
>Military history should be part of any good miltary teaching...

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> PAPADOC a écrit :
themselves up[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Spain 1808... The same speech was in Napoleon mouth... 1814, he left

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>
> Military history should be part of any good miltary teaching...

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> As a Jew

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> I am deeply offended by your reference to Himmler.

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> As an
> American

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> with the mightiest miliatary that EVER existed, I am deeply embarrased
> at a daily flow of American blood from poorly equiped, rag tag
> terrorists with small arms killing us at will while we are impotent to
> fight them. While they attack us with great cunning without regard for
> any civilized rules we continue to be killed while being the "good
> guys"- it reminds me of the British during our revolutionary war. We
> hit them and ran from deep cover while they stood in line with red
> uniforms. We seem to have forgotten how to fight and win a war.

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> We can
> not infiltrate, we can not ambush, we can not destroy suspected
> concentrations of enemy without suffering from protests. We cower in
> fear that our enemy will not like us if we kill them.
> We remain the good guys while our enemies hate us in larger and larger
> numbers and devise ever clever methods of killing us.
> If we want to be the good guys then we should all stick our head in the
> sand while our enemies saw them off with long knives.
> If we stopped being saints then maybe we can save our lives and country
> by fighting for our lives and liberty- do you think?
>

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> This is what you want right?
>
> http://desinroc.free.fr/anglais/chrono3/Das_Reich.html
>

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> Unwinnable? Wow you mean that a band of rag tag misfits blowing themselves up
> can defeat the most powerful nation in the world? hehe...
>
> What were the Soviets thinking when they amassed all those Divisions...all they
> needed were a few rag tag platoons of suicide bombers and they could have won
> the cold war. Wow...

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> The only way we lose is if we forget why we are fighting in the first place.

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> If
> we give up we lose...

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> if we keep fighting they lose.

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> We have kept the terrorists
> completely offbalance since 9/11.

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> Or are you thinking that they didnt want to
> bomb all the major events we have had since? Republican Convention nothing not
> one damn thing happened, Democratic convention nothing not one damn thing

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> (understandable in one sense since many of the Democrats are on Osama's side),

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> Super Bowls, World Series, New Years in Times square and none of those events
> saw even a XXXXing loser with a bomb belt on.

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> They are fighting for all they are worth for the most important prize. Iraq.

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> We
> beat them there and its all downhill from there since we would roll up Syria and
> Iran pretty darn quickly after that.

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> PAPADOC

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> hehe Dear man you are the one who is irrelevent. You see that many of us who
> understand the reasons that Saddam had to be deposed have seen all of our policy
> wishes come true under President Bush. Arguing with the likes of appeasers like
> you is absolutely irrelevent. We deposed Saddam, we continue to kill the
> terrorists who are in Iraq, President Bush won with a very convincing margin and
> now the leaders of Iran and Syria should be looking for places to hide.
>
> Have fun being irrelevent. Its probably cruel to point out that had Kerry won he
> might have also followed the same course we are on in Iraq. After all letting up
> the pressure on the terrorists might be a bad thing to do for Democrats.
>
>
> PAPADOC
>
>
>
> My Blog all about politics and the terror war.
> www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html

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>
>funny you mention the USSR - hay nitwit, remember what happend to them
>in Afghanistan? Just look at Chechnia for a refreasher course.

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>or better yet Iraq.

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>
>Why aer we fightingthere anyway chump?

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>WMD?........yes.........umm......no

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>911......yes!.............hhhhhmmmmmmm......no

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>Osama......YEs!........um.........no.......

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>al Qaeda......YES!.....um.......no

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>so? why and what the XXXX are we in Iraq for Bubba?
>the smarter ones know why we are there. and it ain't pretty.......unless
>you own Haliburton stock.

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[vbcol=seagreen]
>we lost already - two yrs ago when we illegally and unConstitutionally
>invaded another soveriegn nation (a clear violation of Article 6
>paragraph 2).

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>we will lose - regardless now............fine by me.
>I don't support Colonial Wars, I'm a American! Not a Robber Baron Wig!

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>
>no we lose either way. We lose the war or we lose our soul as a Nation
>and become Nazis.
>losing the colonial oil war is the better alternative.

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[vbcol=seagreen]
>how? by illegally invading a Nation which had no terrorists?
>

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[vbcol=seagreen]
>relivance to Iraq? NONE.
>

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[vbcol=seagreen]
>XXXXXXX.

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>Only one who seems to support Osama is your Hero the Chimp-in-Chief, the
>PussiHawk who can't even bring himself to mention the Son of a XXXXX by
>Name!!

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>"Osama dead or alive"....HAHA!!....what a phoney Pussihawk our President
>is!!

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[vbcol=seagreen]
>no relivance to Iraq - NONE.

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[vbcol=seagreen]
>may NOW they are - but who XXXXed up by UnConstitutionally invading
>another Nation under lies therebye encourageding them to??

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[vbcol=seagreen]
>you are insane - or a fool - probably both!

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>
>
>
>
>well - you sig sure looks proper. Named after one of the most notorious
>murdering dictators the world has even known.

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> hehe...Yup WMD's not found, we are giving back Iraq to Saddam.
>
> On the other hand what about those Mets?
>
> PAPADOC
>
>

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> As a Jew I am deeply offended by your reference to Himmler. As an
> American , a former soldier with an honrable discharge, from a country
> with the mightiest miliatary that EVER existed, I am deeply embarrased
> at a daily flow of American blood from poorly equiped, rag tag
> terrorists with small arms killing us at will while we are impotent to
> fight them. While they attack us with great cunning without regard for
> any civilized rules we continue to be killed while being the "good
> guys"- it reminds me of the British during our revolutionary war. We
> hit them and ran from deep cover while they stood in line with red
> uniforms. We seem to have forgotten how to fight and win a war. We can
> not infiltrate, we can not ambush, we can not destroy suspected
> concentrations of enemy without suffering from protests. We cower in
> fear that our enemy will not like us if we kill them.
> We remain the good guys while our enemies hate us in larger and larger
> numbers and devise ever clever methods of killing us.
> If we want to be the good guys then we should all stick our head in the
> sand while our enemies saw them off with long knives.
> If we stopped being saints then maybe we can save our lives and country
> by fighting for our lives and liberty- do you think?
>

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> "buster" <buster@jupiter.net> wrote in message
> news:uBiFd.11130$tF.9346@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> You can't prove someone wrong by lack of something turning up yet,
> dumbass. Just because the official search is off doesn't mean that they
> weren't there in the first place, just not discovered.
>
> In any case, it's largely irrelvant at this point. Iraq has been freed
> from the chains of a dictator, and even though there is still a
> significant amount of residual leftover from that regime, in the long run
> the Iraqis will enjoy their freedom.

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>
> James
>

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> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:00qbu0l8cbcd91uel0q5dnvfeub0vgkarl@4ax.com...
>
> What is sad is the fact that none of these posters has uttered a XXXXing
> peep on this newsgroup in months

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> handed to them in the election.

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> vindication for their stance, they come out of the woodwork.

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>
> Welcome back, fools.

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>
>

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>It's also been reported that military big-wigs are planning on working
>out an exit strategy as they're realizing it's an unwinable war.
>.
>Tara
>--
>War would end if the dead could return. - Stanley Baldwin

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>
> "James Calivar" <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:TUFFd.5972$KJ2.4206@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> Your "long run" is likely to be twenty years of civil war. I wouldn't
> call that freedom. May or may not be better than Saddam.
>
> Stocky is in part right in that we aren't committed enough What he fails
> to realize is that it's not the tactics, its the number of troops we
> failed to commit to get the job done.. If we didn't have 250.000 troops
> to commit we should have asked congress to add divisions to the army
> before invading Iraq.>

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> http://tinyurl.com/7ots
>

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> "Leadfoot" <nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
> news:JZGFd.4076$nt.992@fed1read06...
>
> I agree with you there - why for example a full assault on Fallujah wasn't
> made the day after the 4 contracters were killed and hung out in the open
> is XXXXing beyond me. To ask the current soldiers who have been busting
> XXX for almost 2 years to extend their duty is an insult and an outrage.
>
> That said, this is all beside the point. The WMDs were (in my opinion)
> there from Day 1. They were most likely moved to Syria or Jordan or Iran.
> XXXX - Saddam had months to hide them. And given his sneaky background in
> other venues, it's no surprise to me that he was able to cover them up.
>
>
> No thanks. I don't do TinyURL. But let me guess - NY Times? The UK
> Register? Even better, maybe The Guardian?

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>
>

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> Ah a scholar, what a pleasure. Now brainiac explain who defeated Bonaparte in
> Spain. Duke of what??? And no Brainiac dont say the Duke of Earl.

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> "NN Tym" <NOSPAMnn_tymNOSPAM@NOSPAMnoos.fr> wrote in message
> news:41ebe821$0$29579$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net...
>
>
> themselves up
>
>
> Spain.
>
>
>
> LOL - just because something happened somewhere once, does not mean that the
> same thing will happen again somewhere else. So your little coincidence is
> completely irrelevant. Now please go along and leave the real work to the
> Americans.

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>Education is at its lowest it seems these days...
>
>French army was beaten several times by British, but each time British
>had to withdraw, sometimes very hastily. Once so hastily, that the
>retreat broke the British army, and Wellington had to wait for quite a
>while before he could get back on the field...
>
>What broke the French Army was the Spanish guerilla, nothing else.
>
>Buy yourself a good book on the subject please, there is lot to learn
>from what happened in Spain. Especially if you compare what Marshal
>Suchet did on the East part of Spain, and what other marshals did on the
>Western and central parts of Spain...
>
>And finally why the Spaniards fought for a King they despised, but was
>theirs... Napoleon thought he was right to throw down a wicked King and
>replace his corrupted administration with sound and true laws. He never
>understood why the Spanish poeple fought so fiercely...

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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:09:56 GMT, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> LOL
> Why don't you just say
> "I couldn't find any so now I'm running away to hide so that I don't
> have to face reality."
>
> Bye Bye Jimmy
>

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> James Calivar a écrit :
>
> So strikingly similar...
>
> There is a saying : "those you forget history are bound to repeat it"...

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> Gaffo quick take a look I think a Jew is trying to steal your money....
>
>
>
>
> Funny you mention Afghanistan, they just had elections for the first time in
> their history. Brought to them by the USA. Russians are incompetent after WW2
> they never advanced either tactics or training..witness that debacle at the
> school house. Their supposedly bad XXX spetznaz got their asses handed to them
> by a bunch of rag tag suicide losers.
>
>
>
>
> Iraq? What is happening in Iraq loser boy. We are forcing the terrorists to
> defend and to come out and fight. Better that we bring them out to fight than to
> allow them to pick and choose their battles.
>
>
>
>
> Because Saddam has been one of the main supporters of International Terrorism,
> he has trained them, he has given them missions, equipment, haven.
>
>
>
>
> Yea those were spitballs he was throwing at the Kurds and Iranians.
>
>
>
>
> Yea just because he had one of the previous WTC Bombers on the payroll giving
> him sanctuary in Baghdad is no reason to believe he had any knowledge or
> interest in blowing up one of the symbols of the US. Nahhh. Just because the
> Ambassador who met with Atta was ejected from the Czech state as a persona non
> grata for his proven plots against bombing Radio Free Europe using Islamic
> fundamentalists doesn't mean that Saddam was involved in Terrorism. nahh.
>
>
>
>
> Osama no? Not quite there big boy.
>
>
>
>
> hehe Yea Zarqawi isn't associated with Al Queda, he isn't a fundamentalist
> nutjob, he hasnt been given a blessing by Bin Laden...nah.
>
>
>
>
> Oooh Haliburton, now we are on to the real reasons...gotta help them Jews make
> more money eh there Mr. Brownshirt?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> hehe Ah a Legal Scholar. Dont give up your day job.
>
>
>
>
> Ah so now its out you think its fine and dandy to lose this war we are in
> against the Islamofacists. At least you are honest in declaring your
> allegiences.
>
>
>
>
> Colonial Oil War....wow....you really have this thing figured out eh?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> They had terrorists, they trained terrorists, they supported terrorists, they
> harbored terrorists and they engaged in terrorist activities. We forced the
> terrorists to defend themselves and die in the process.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well only in your fevered jew hating mind.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Truth hurts eh Moveon boy.
>
>
>
>
> Hehehe....Wow he sure seems to be doing lots more to defang that bastard than
> any previous Republican or Democratic President. Course now that we know your
> allegences we know why you are so pissed at President Bush. He is beating your
> side up...both in the election and at war. Must suck to be you.
>
>
>
>
> Ah at least he isnt wishing for the terrorists to win or declaring like you do
> that its all a Jewish plot to take over the world. muahahaha.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Keep saying Brownshirt....maybe you will convince yourself. The American people
> disagree with you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> More legal advice?? hehe..Lets see we used to have a group of terrorists who
> stayed in hiding only to come out when they decided to attempt to murder
> thousands or more....now we have them forced to defend their honor standing
> against our best and brightest. Lets see which situation would you prefer? Oh
> thats right you want us to lose...you prefer that they stayed in hiding to
> attack and murder this nation run by jews eh Jew Hater?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> hehe....Probably.
>
>
>
>
> Well now not to take away from my namesake but the world has known quite a few
> more notable ones...take for instance Saddam.
>
> PAPADOC
>
> My Blog all about politics and the terror war.
> www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html

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> As a Jew I am deeply offended by your reference to Himmler.

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> As an
> American , a former soldier with an honrable discharge, from a

quote:

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> with the mightiest miliatary that EVER existed, I am deeply

quote:

---

> at a daily flow of American blood from poorly equiped, rag tag
> terrorists with small arms killing us at will while we are impotent

quote:

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> fight them.

quote:

---

> While they attack us with great cunning without regard for
> any civilized rules we continue to be killed while being the "good
> guys"-

quote:

---

> it reminds me of the British during our revolutionary war. We
> hit them and ran from deep cover while they stood in line with red
> uniforms.

quote:

---

> We seem to have forgotten how to fight and win a war.

quote:

---

> We can not infiltrate, we can not ambush, we can not destroy

quote:

---

> concentrations of enemy without suffering from protests.

quote:

---

> We cower in fear that our enemy will not like us if we kill them.

quote:

---

> We remain the good guys while our enemies hate us in larger and

quote:

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> numbers and devise ever clever methods of killing us.

quote:

---

> If we want to be the good guys then we should all stick our head in

quote:

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> sand while our enemies saw them off with long knives.

quote:

---

> If we stopped being saints then maybe we can save our lives and

quote:

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> by fighting for our lives and liberty- do you think?

quote:

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>"buster" <buster@jupiter.net> wrote in message
>news:uBiFd.11130$tF.9346@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
>You can't prove someone wrong by lack of something turning up yet, dumbass.
>Just because the official search is off doesn't mean that they weren't there
>in the first place, just not discovered.

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>
>In any case, it's largely irrelvant at this point. Iraq has been freed from
>the chains of a dictator, and even though there is still a significant
>amount of residual leftover from that regime, in the long run the Iraqis
>will enjoy their freedom.

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>
>James
>

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>And judging from your reply you can't think.
>Your comments about this show you have no viewpoint at all.

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>you are a delusinoal fool Pappy. and a afraid of the big bad boogeyman
>under your bed.
>
>
>grow a brain tard - you sound like a McCarthite nitwit......"sky as
>falling sky is falling reds under my bed reds under my bed!!"
>
>
>
>and a Brownshirt as well i might ad.
>
>
>
>...................you are not worth my time.................byebye
>lozer.......

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> We can
> not infiltrate, we can not ambush, we can not destroy suspected
> concentrations of enemy without suffering from protests. We cower in
> fear that our enemy will not like us if we kill them.

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> We remain the good guys while our enemies hate us in larger and larger
> numbers and devise ever clever methods of killing us.

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> If we want to be the good guys then we should all stick our head in the
> sand while our enemies saw them off with long knives.
> If we stopped being saints then maybe we can save our lives and country
> by fighting for our lives and liberty- do you think?

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> Ah clever lad so then you argue that it was the Spanish guerillas that won the
> war and that far from playing a minor supporting role to the British it was they
> who won the war in Spain?

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> You must be a Spaniard to believe such nonsense. Too bad Napoleon didn't
> understand the Spanish better for had he known he could have merely murdered a
> few hundred of them and the Spanish would have voted to retreat and appease him.

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>
> Just as they did the Al Queda.
>
> PAPADOC

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>Then you "tasked" me with finding evidence to support my
> OPINION. I guess you're just a bit too dim to see the stupidity and
> futility in such a goosechase?

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>
> And finally why the Spaniards fought for a King they despised, but was
> theirs... Napoleon thought he was right to throw down a wicked King and
> replace his corrupted administration with sound and true laws. He never
> understood why the Spanish poeple fought so fiercely...

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>
> B.T.K.

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>
> They had NONE when the UN told them
>

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> "NN Tym" <NOSPAMnn_tymNOSPAM@NOSPAMnoos.fr> wrote in message
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>
> Napolean was not there to help and get no gain....... He had every
> intention of ruling Spain in the end. Make no mistake about it.
>
> Meanwhile...........
> This has absolutely nor bearing, or relavance to what is happening
> in Iraq right now. The Iraqi people truely hated their ruler, and were
> happy to have the Colation throw him out.

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> The problem now is not
> the Iraqi people themselves, but foreign arab terrorists terrorizing them
> and trying to keep them from becomming self a determining people.

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> Notice that the terrorist leader Zarquawi is not an Iraqi ?
> Nor is the coalition there to rule Iraq, but to help the Iraqi people
> rule themselves, and interact freely with the rest of the world.

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> The terrorists themselves are 99% non Iraqi,

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> and going there to stop
> a democratic process from taking hold, and to attack American troops.
> And sadly the average Iraqi citizen pays the price

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> of these non Iraqi
> terrorists in their midst. Their casualty toll is far higher than the
> coalition.

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> People should also consider that no bordaring arab state wants to see
> self determination by the Iraqi people either, might give their own
> people something to think about. Last thing Syria, and Iran want !
> Both these countries are spending cash, and resources to *beat*
> the Iraqi people down, and keep free elections from happining.
> Free elections in Iraq (what the Iraqi's want)

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> will have a ripple
> effect in the rest of the arab world, and successfull elections and
> self determination will casue huge problems for Iran and Syra...
>
> And lets not forget history while we are at it. Remember that almost
> ALL of the current problems in Africa, and the ME are a direct result
> of the colonialist expansion, abuse and control by EUROPEANS !
>
> IT was not the USA that caused the problems in these places..........
> European land grabs, and the rape of natural resources in the above
> mentioned places turned those people against westerners.

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>There were no Americans dying at the hands of Iraqis, not until we
>invaded their soil. That's not opinion, it's fact.

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> <no@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> Then what would you call the dozen or so chemical arty rounds
> the troops found ? They were WMD pure and simple.....
> A dozen is not none, just finding one meant that he had them.
> And we found more than one.

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>
> We know he use them on his own people, and the Iranians,
> and we know he was persuing WMD bio programs.

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>
> I dont understand how you people can almost apologize for
> a creul and ruthless dictator..................
>

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> <no@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Then what would you call the dozen

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> or so chemical arty rounds
> the troops found ?
>
> They were WMD pure and simple.....
>
> A dozen is not none, just finding one meant that he had them.
> And we found more than one.
>
> We know he use them on his own people, and the Iranians,
> and we know he was persuing WMD bio programs.

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> I dont understand how you people can almost apologize for
> a creul and ruthless dictator..................

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>
> Same goes with the Pentagon hit.
> No plane wreckage was found but scraps of metal that may have come from a
> missile. But no one will ever know now.
> Planes don't punch 8 foot holes trough several walls Or fly 500MPH,several
> feet above the ground. Would have to be some pilot and not some terrorist
> that could not pass his flying lessons.

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> This may seem incredulous but your own government brought the Twin Towers
> down.

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>
>
> You have one in the Whitehouse as we type.
> A puppet and the string puller is the Vice.
> But what would you understand about your own government. You were
> brainwashed since the time you wore diapers.

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> It's also been reported that military big-wigs are planning on

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> out an exit strategy as they're realizing it's an unwinable war.
> .
> Tara
> --
> War would end if the dead could return. - Stanley Baldwin