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Going from 9800 Pro to Nvidia?
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| Don Burnette 2005-01-15, 5:47 pm |
| I am strongly looking at adding an Nvidia 6600 GT 256 mb agp card to go
with the 64 bit system I am ugrading to.
Am I correct in thinking I would see a significant performance gain coming
from a 9800 Pro 128 mb card? I do not want to invest 300 bucks or more in a
video card at this time, I am ok with 225 bucks for the above. It is an XFX
6600 GT from Newegg.
My last Nvidia card was the Ti 4400 , have been with ATI since.
Thanks,
--
Don Burnette
"When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the way
of the man that's doing it."
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| Mitch_A 2005-01-15, 5:47 pm |
| Don Burnette wrote:
quote:
> I am strongly looking at adding an Nvidia 6600 GT 256 mb agp card to go
> with the 64 bit system I am ugrading to.
>
> Am I correct in thinking I would see a significant performance gain coming
> from a 9800 Pro 128 mb card? I do not want to invest 300 bucks or more in
> a video card at this time, I am ok with 225 bucks for the above. It is an
> XFX 6600 GT from Newegg.
> My last Nvidia card was the Ti 4400 , have been with ATI since.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
Having just purchased a 6800GT which upgraded a 9700Pro with not so stellar
results Id suggest waiting. Yea its better, but not significantly enough
to justify $350 and sure not double (btw the 6800GT claims twice the perf
of a 9800pro, just nvidias marketing machine hard at work imo). Im taking
the 6800 back in a couple days and am going to go back to ATI and their
X800 Pro. That R300 core was a terrific part for its time.
Mitch
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| Don Burnette 2005-01-15, 5:47 pm |
| Mitch_A wrote:
quote:
> Don Burnette wrote:
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> Having just purchased a 6800GT which upgraded a 9700Pro with not so
> stellar results Id suggest waiting. Yea its better, but not
> significantly enough to justify $350 and sure not double (btw the
> 6800GT claims twice the perf of a 9800pro, just nvidias marketing
> machine hard at work imo). Im taking the 6800 back in a couple days
> and am going to go back to ATI and their X800 Pro. That R300 core
> was a terrific part for its time.
>
> Mitch
Thanks Mitch.
Is the X800 Pro much of an improvement over the 9800 Pro?
--
Don Burnette
"When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the
way of the man that's doing it."
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| Mitch_A 2005-01-16, 12:46 am |
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> Thanks Mitch.
>
> Is the X800 Pro much of an improvement over the 9800 Pro?
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Personally Id probably skip an upgrade from a 9800 to an X800Pro. Maybe to
a X800XT but thats about a sawbuck more than the pro. Youll see an
improvement though its whether that improvement can justify such a big
expense. Hell Don, I skipped a generation just so I could get some wow
factor and even now in hindsight I think I was overly optimistic about the
gains. The difference from medium to maximum quality settings in most
games isnt all that great either. Even the shader 3.0 support in PF was
difficult to really even notice.
Mitch
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| Don Burnette 2005-01-16, 12:46 am |
| Mitch_A wrote:
quote:
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> Personally Id probably skip an upgrade from a 9800 to an X800Pro.
> Maybe to a X800XT but thats about a sawbuck more than the pro. Youll
> see an improvement though its whether that improvement can justify
> such a big expense. Hell Don, I skipped a generation just so I could
> get some wow factor and even now in hindsight I think I was overly
> optimistic about the gains. The difference from medium to maximum
> quality settings in most games isnt all that great either. Even the
> shader 3.0 support in PF was difficult to really even notice.
>
> Mitch
Yeah, I am beginning to think the same - and to get a significant increase
would mean spending >300 bucks on a vid card, something I do not care to do.
Now I have about convinced myself to wait a couple of months on go socket939
Nforce4 pci express for the 64 bit upgrade I want to do. Auughh!!
--
Don Burnette
"When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the
way of the man that's doing it."
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| Werewolf 2005-01-17, 12:47 am |
| Don Burnette wrote:
quote:
> I am strongly looking at adding an Nvidia 6600 GT 256 mb agp card to go
> with the 64 bit system I am ugrading to.
>
> Am I correct in thinking I would see a significant performance gain coming
> from a 9800 Pro 128 mb card? I do not want to invest 300 bucks or more in a
> video card at this time, I am ok with 225 bucks for the above. It is an XFX
> 6600 GT from Newegg.
> My last Nvidia card was the Ti 4400 , have been with ATI since.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
Is this difference from changing the PCI Latency setting in BIOS (i.e
when one boots and hits delete to enter the BIOS setup)? If so how?
--
Werewolf
Peace is Good.
Freedom is BETTER!
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| "Mitch_A" <naman@pacbell.nospam.net> wrote in message
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quote:
> Having just purchased a 6800GT which upgraded a 9700Pro with not so
stellar
quote:
> results Id suggest waiting. Yea its better, but not significantly enough
> to justify $350 and sure not double (btw the 6800GT claims twice the perf
> of a 9800pro, just nvidias marketing machine hard at work imo). Im taking
It is much faster but it depends on the situation. What resolution are you
playing games in? If you're playing hem in 1024*768 w/o AF && AA then I
guess you won't see the difference. Try playing games at 1600*1200 if your
display can pull it off..
quote:
> the 6800 back in a couple days and am going to go back to ATI and their
> X800 Pro. That R300 core was a terrific part for its time.
That would be a bad move because X800 Pro is noticeably SLOWER than 6800GT..
6800 GT is a best buy right now (only 6800 Ultra and X800/850 XTs are
generally faster but by a very small margin), at least till the X800 XL
comes out..
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| alq119_4spam@yahoo.com 2005-01-17, 5:47 pm |
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Don Burnette wrote:
quote:
> I am strongly looking at adding an Nvidia 6600 GT 256 mb agp card to
go
quote:
> with the 64 bit system I am ugrading to.
>
> Am I correct in thinking I would see a significant performance gain
coming
quote:
> from a 9800 Pro 128 mb card?
(snipped)
Have a read of this:
http://techreport.com/etc/comparo/graphics/
It's a comparison & spec chart of most of the video cards you'll find
today. It might help you make a decision.
My own recommendation is to go with a 6800GT if you can stand the cash
bleed. I've just upgraded from a Radeon 9600 128mb to the 6800GT 256mb
and I've been blow away by the performance increases. I can now run PF
with perfect water, Effects=2, Water=1 or 2 and it's smooth, the only
stutters being during a mass takeoff at the beginning of campaign
missions. Lots of planes, lots of dust. I can run with water=3, but not
with a lot of planes in the air. It looks purty, but it gets a bit
choppy, and I don't mean the virtual waves that are generated at that
setting.
For what it's worth, Doom 3 can now be run at Ultra, 1280x1024, even
with that mod that leaves the corpses lying around, and the framerate
so far hasn't dropped below 45 or so.
Specs:
PNY Geforce 6800GT
Athlon XP3200
1 gig PC3200 ram
DFI Lanparty Nforce 2 Ultra motherboard
200gig over 2 hard drives (I have a 4095mb pagefile on a separate disk
from the System disk - it makes a difference)
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| Heiko & Verena Thomas 2005-01-17, 5:47 pm |
| I upgraded from Ati 9800Pro to Nvdia 6800 after reading this article:
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gr...1004/index.html
The Nvidia seems to meet my expectations. I had some problems with the
latest drivers 66.93 though and I had to go back to some earlier version.
Since then, smooth performance and no problems with FS9 or other games.
Cheers,
Heiko
"Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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quote:
> I am strongly looking at adding an Nvidia 6600 GT 256 mb agp card to go
> with the 64 bit system I am ugrading to.
>
> Am I correct in thinking I would see a significant performance gain coming
> from a 9800 Pro 128 mb card? I do not want to invest 300 bucks or more in
> a video card at this time, I am ok with 225 bucks for the above. It is an
> XFX 6600 GT from Newegg.
> My last Nvidia card was the Ti 4400 , have been with ATI since.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> --
> Don Burnette
>
> "When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the way
> of the man that's doing it."
>
>
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| alq119_4spam@yahoo.com 2005-01-17, 5:47 pm |
|
Heiko & Verena Thomas wrote:
quote:
> I upgraded from Ati 9800Pro to Nvdia 6800 after reading this article:
quote:
> http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gr...1004/index.html
>
> The Nvidia seems to meet my expectations. I had some problems with
the
quote:
> latest drivers 66.93 though and I had to go back to some earlier
version.
quote:
> Since then, smooth performance and no problems with FS9 or other
games.
quote:
>
> Cheers,
> Heiko
I'm using 66.93 drivers now. What problems have you had with them? Have
you found any speed increases with other drivers? So far I haven't
experienced any problems, but if I can run the card a bit faster, I'll
try something new.
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| alq119_4spam@yahoo.com 2005-01-17, 5:47 pm |
|
Heiko & Verena Thomas wrote:
quote:
> I upgraded from Ati 9800Pro to Nvdia 6800 after reading this article:
quote:
> http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gr...1004/index.html
>
> The Nvidia seems to meet my expectations. I had some problems with
the
quote:
> latest drivers 66.93 though and I had to go back to some earlier
version.
quote:
> Since then, smooth performance and no problems with FS9 or other
games.
quote:
>
> Cheers,
> Heiko
I'm using 66.93 drivers now. What problems have you had with them? Have
you found any speed increases with other drivers? So far I haven't
experienced any problems, but if I can run the card a bit faster, I'll
try something new.
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| James Calivar 2005-01-17, 5:47 pm |
| <alq119_4spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105986540.537176.197810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
> Heiko & Verena Thomas wrote:
>
> the
> version.
> games.
>
> I'm using 66.93 drivers now. What problems have you had with them? Have
> you found any speed increases with other drivers? So far I haven't
> experienced any problems, but if I can run the card a bit faster, I'll
> try something new.
>
I actually had to roll back to the 66.93 drivers from some Beta 71.20
drivers in order to get CFS3 to run on my new system. So much for
non-WHQL...
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| Lost One 2005-01-18, 12:47 am |
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I went the other direction.
I threw out a V9950TVD 128 after getting disgusted with the lack of stability and being led up, down, and sideways looking for the holy grail "stable drivers" by a bazillion sites and forums.
I threw in a 9800PRO256 and life is much easier.
I don't spend half my life reading troubleshooting boards and trying to find drivers for it. Now, anytime a new set of Omegas come out, I install them without even thinking about it. I haven't had to go backwards once.
I also have far, far, fewer reliability problems. I've given up on nVidia.
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:33:45 +0100, "agh" <agh@kjh.com> wrote:
quote:
>"Mitch_A" <naman@pacbell.nospam.net> wrote in message
>news:%PeGd.11688$5R.2015@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>stellar
>
>It is much faster but it depends on the situation. What resolution are you
>playing games in? If you're playing hem in 1024*768 w/o AF && AA then I
>guess you won't see the difference. Try playing games at 1600*1200 if your
>display can pull it off..
>
>
>That would be a bad move because X800 Pro is noticeably SLOWER than 6800GT..
>6800 GT is a best buy right now (only 6800 Ultra and X800/850 XTs are
>generally faster but by a very small margin), at least till the X800 XL
>comes out..
>
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| Carl Frisk 2005-01-18, 12:47 am |
| I went this path about 3 years ago. I still thing nVidia is crisper but that pure opinion and probably has more to do
with my settings than anything else.
OK that made me think. I use flatscreen and only see nVidea on CRT's. Forget the crisper observation.
--
....Carl Frisk
Anger is a brief madness.
- Horace, 20 B.C.
http://www.carlfrisk.com
"Lost One" <notme@nothere.org> wrote in message news:5nnou0p55006v18stjm2i2o36enlglb3ss@4ax.com...
quote:
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> I went the other direction.
>
> I threw out a V9950TVD 128 after getting disgusted with the lack of stability and being led up, down, and sideways
> looking for the holy grail "stable drivers" by a bazillion sites and forums.
>
> I threw in a 9800PRO256 and life is much easier.
>
> I don't spend half my life reading troubleshooting boards and trying to find drivers for it. Now, anytime a new set
> of Omegas come out, I install them without even thinking about it. I haven't had to go backwards once.
> I also have far, far, fewer reliability problems. I've given up on nVidia.
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:33:45 +0100, "agh" <agh@kjh.com> wrote:
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