quote:

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> This game blows me away...the world is real.

quote:

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> In article <0h8np0lufrksgvko0suvgbr8okp7458taj@4ax.com>, nospam@nospam.com
> () wrote:
>
>
> The more I play, the more (relatively minor) issues I have, but it's
> certainly a spectacular technical achievement. I highly recommend it for
> that alone.
>
> Andrew McP
>
> PS My biggest issue is what might be motion sickness, which I've never
> suffered from before. Someone suggested it might be because HL2 looks so
> real it confuses more brains than previous games. Your head expects to
> feel the motion because it's so realistic. They might be onto something.

quote:

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> Sorry but I was so pissed off about the ridiculous amount of time to
> finally get the game downloaded and activated I went off.
>
> This game blows me away...the world is real. The Graphics amazing.
>
> PAPADOC

quote:

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> Sorry but I was so pissed off about the ridiculous amount of time to
> finally get the game downloaded and activated I went off.
>
> This game blows me away...the world is real. The Graphics amazing.
>
> PAPADOC

quote:

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> If you're interested, there's a pretty cool segment/interview with Valve
> on video.msn.com about the code leak. I think this link will work, but if
> not just go to video.msn.com and click on GAMING under biz-tech:
>
> http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?pr...Item=NBC%20News

quote:

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> Sorry but I was so pissed off about the ridiculous amount of time to
> finally get the game downloaded and activated I went off.
>
> This game blows me away...the world is real. The Graphics amazing.
>
> PAPADOC

quote:

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>The more I play, the more (relatively minor) issues I have, but it's
>certainly a spectacular technical achievement. I highly recommend it for
>that alone.
>
>Andrew McP
>
>PS My biggest issue is what might be motion sickness, which I've never
>suffered from before. Someone suggested it might be because HL2 looks so
>real it confuses more brains than previous games. Your head expects to
>feel the motion because it's so realistic. They might be onto something.

quote:

---

> Sorry but I was so pissed off about the ridiculous amount of time to
> finally get the game downloaded and activated I went off.
>
> This game blows me away...the world is real. The Graphics amazing.
>
> PAPADOC

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> That said there has only been one wow moment so far

quote:

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> Wow, so real you get sick hehe....

quote:

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> XXXX Valve and XXXX Steam

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>On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:28:36 GMT, "James Calivar" <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
><nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:0h8np0lufrksgvko0suvgbr8okp7458taj@4ax.com...
>
>I just returned my copy. XXXX Valve and XXXX Steam. This game can wait the 18
>months it takes to make it a back-shelf $19.99 bargain. Maybe by that time the
>Steam servers will finally be empty.
>
>http://www.XXXXvalve.com/
>

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> That's what you get for wasteing your time and money on a brainless
> FPS when you have Falcon 4.0 to install and learn!!! I just bought
> EEAH on EBay (for $1.50 !!) to add to my EECH game, friggin thing is
> great and runs perfectly on XP!
>
> Priorities man, PRIORITIES!!!
> ;-)
>
> Icer
>

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>On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:08:43 -0500, "James Calivar" <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
><G. Patricks> wrote in message
>news:bodpp0lfper2p4oq264j2eq0ndut6hj5jl@4ax.com...
>
>I'm still waiting on delivery of my new AlienWare - and they seem to be
>lagging in getting it assembled. I'm going to have to make a call today and
>badger them.
>
>As soon as the new PC is up and running I will install F4 as you specified
>earlier and ring you up in ICQ.
>
>James
>

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> Before you install drop me a note with your ICQ #.. I seem to have
> lost you from my contact list during my last "purge".. If it's MP you
> are interested in I would rather you install one of the SP setups,
> they are more stable for sure in MP (and maybe in SP also). Also, if
> you are interested in flying planes other than the F16 (A10, F15, F18,
> etc) then you may want to take a look at the new Aeyes cockpits. The
> new installer is excellent, allows for installation into any of the F4
> versions (BMS or SP) easily.
>
> Looking forward to it..
> Icer - 404407
>

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>On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:07:04 -0500, "James Calivar" <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>I'm interested in both online and offline capabilities. So maybe I should
>do two separate installs (if that's possible)? I'm thinking of joining up
>with one of the virtual F4 squads listed here recently (Free Birds, or Stray
>Dogs), so I'll need multiplayer capability for that - but I'm also
>interested in checking out this much-vaunted dynamic campaign that is
>available in single player.
>
>My ICQ account is dead - I'll create a new one when I get the new system.
>
>James
>

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> That adds a new variable. If you plan on joining up with the FB's or
> SD's you need to do an install exactly as THEY specify. Yes, you can
> easilty do multiple installs... I already have a FB install that I
> use, it's based on the SP3 exe (as all the SP's following SP3 are)
> with some twists. Its quite stable online and off.
>

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> I'm curios about your statement - "but I'm also interested in checking
> out this much-vaunted dynamic campaign that is available in single
> player."
>
> You do realize that the dynamic campaign is 100% available (and ALL I
> play online BTW) in ONLINE MP, yes? It sounded like you have the
> notion you must play SP to get the dynamic campaigns.. maybe I just
> read it wrong.
>

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> There is nothing like flying an F4 Campaign online with a human
> wingman/wingmen trying to accomplish something, calling out on voice
> comms (for HELP! usually.. lol), and eventually landing if all went as
> planned.
>
> Lemme know when the "Alien" arrives!
> Icer
>

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>OK, that's good. Is a full F4 install terribly huge?

quote:

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>
>Your assumption about my assumption is correct. I was undeer the impression
>that in order to play a campaign that you had to be single-player only.

quote:

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>
>I just got off of the phone with them, since my order has been in limbo for
>several days. It seems that there was a backorder on my 6800GT that will
>take the delivery date into the December 7th timeframe. Damnit!

quote:

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>I just stopped playing because of motion sickness...
>
>Wow, so real you get sick hehe....
>
>PAPADOC

quote:

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>A friendly tip
>
>http://tinyurl.com/
>

quote:

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> This seems to be a common
> issue.

quote:

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> I just returned my copy. XXXX Valve and XXXX Steam. This game can wait
> the 18 months it takes to make it a back-shelf $19.99 bargain. Maybe by
> that time the Steam servers will finally be empty.

quote:

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>
>As with the other complaints, for every one person reporting problems
>there will be many who don't. However apparently there's a mention of it
>in the retail booklet somewhere; even beta testers reported it. Given that
>would be a relatively small sample, it may be an indication that this is
>more widespread than normal reports of gaming motion sickness.
>
>Andrew McP

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>I swear- people seem to forget the amount of work it took to play computer
>games in the past. Steam is nothing. I remember it taking me about a month
>of online research and boot disk tinkering to get Privateer 1 to run with
>enough resources for both sound *and* the joystick. Incredible.
>

quote:

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> I swear- people seem to forget the amount of work it took to play computer
> games in the past. Steam is nothing. I remember it taking me about a month
> of online research and boot disk tinkering to get Privateer 1 to run with
> enough resources for both sound *and* the joystick. Incredible.
>

quote:

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> The longest I had to spend was probably a few hours, why should we go back
> to the bad old days?

quote:

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>The reason its happening I believe is your body seems to glide
>smoothly instead of bouncing up and down like you do in other FPS.
>
>PAPADOC

quote:

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>It's the first time this
>authentication method has been used for ANY game.

quote:

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> "rob" <roball@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:GLdnd.3653$9A.147234@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> Not saying we should. All I'm saying is that we don't have it that bad waiting
> a little while for the game to authenticate during the install.
>

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> XXXX Steam.

quote:

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> You mean they are still using the old "skating
> on ice" physics engine?

quote:

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>Another reason for me not to buy HL2 then. This seems to be a common
>issue.

quote:

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>The Main reason for you not to buy HF2 is your piss poor Canuck Computer....and
>your lack of imagination in choosing this latest iteration of the NOS.
>hehehehe...
>
>PAPADOC

quote:

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> "rob" <roball@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:GLdnd.3653$9A.147234@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> Not saying we should. All I'm saying is that we don't have it that bad
> waiting a little while for the game to authenticate during the install.
>

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> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:44:45 -0600, PAPADOC <PAPADOC@jimbobs.drive.by>
> wrote:
>
>
> I'm on mood stabilizing meds so it's not my fault I can't come up with
> a better name. But I've never really been into the action FPS games
> all that much anyway. When I finally got around to buying HL it didn't
> make me piss my pants like it did you. I enjoy FPS games like
> "Splinter Cell" and "Thief: The Dark Project" though.

quote:

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>Thief is fun. Very moody.
>

quote:

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> On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 00:06:51 GMT, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Yea, it requires one to think more than the average FPS too. Same with
> Splinter Cell. I've got "SC: Pandora Tomorrow" on my Xmas wish list.

quote:

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> "Trout" <fish@noemail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:793tp0dmnacuc2mb4m1b7uk0q6c27ebmls@4ax.com...
>
> There are just too damned many good games out there right now. I don't
> have the f*cking time for all this nonsense! Doom3, HL2, FarCry, CoD,
> Halo2 - where does it all end!!??
>
> I've decided to take up one new "major" game this coming year, and that's
> Falcon 4.0. I already play a buttload of IL2-FB/AEP/PF, so I figure now
> it's tie tostart in with the jets. The other games listed above will have
> to fit in as time permits.
>

quote:

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> Sorry but I was so pissed off about the ridiculous amount of time to
> finally get the game downloaded and activated I went off.
>
> This game blows me away...the world is real. The Graphics amazing.
>
> PAPADOC

quote:

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> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:09:55 -0500, "Tempest"
> <gtg713b@prism.gatech.NOSPAM.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> No it's not. Joint Ops requires you to enter a code and login with
> username and password too. It also has an online updating system.
>

quote:

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> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:17:58 +1300, "rob" <roball@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
> It's not really friendly though. That tiny url could point to
> malicious code for all we know.

quote:

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> It's not really friendly though. That tiny url could point to
> malicious code for all we know.

quote:

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> XXXX Valve and XXXX Steam

quote:

---

> Trout wrote:
>
>
> The folks over on alt.hacker use tinyurl a lot. If there was malicious
> code they'd be the first to report it.
>
> Tara
> --
> http://users4.ev1.net/~taragem/yager.htm

quote:

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> First time I booted up Falcon 3....muahahahaha.
>
> PAPADOC
>
>

quote:

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>I don't think he means that tinyurl is malicious code, but that you could
>put a link to a website that would run malicious code, but by using Tinyurl,
>there wouldn't be any clues from looking at the web address.

quote:

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>hours... hours!!! of tweaking configsys and autoexec.bat, running QEMM, etc.
>all to see engine nacelles on the B-52s...
>
>Ahhhh those were the days, when men were men, and flight sim enthusiast were
>geeks.

quote:

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> On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:17:53 -0600, "Jay Williams"
> <Voodoo141@buggeroffspammercox.net> wrote:

quote:

---

> I once read a 300 page book that was on nothing but dos memory
> management. I became quite good at it after reading that book though.

quote:

---

> Sorry but I was so pissed off about the ridiculous amount of time to
> finally get the game downloaded and activated I went off.
>
> This game blows me away...the world is real. The Graphics amazing.
>
> PAPADOC

quote:

---

> If you're interested, there's a pretty cool segment/interview with Valve
> on video.msn.com about the code leak. I think this link will work, but if
> not just go to video.msn.com and click on GAMING under biz-tech:
>
> http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?pr...Item=NBC%20News

quote:

---

> Sorry but I was so pissed off about the ridiculous amount of time to
> finally get the game downloaded and activated I went off.
>
> This game blows me away...the world is real. The Graphics amazing.
>
> PAPADOC

quote:

---

> Trout wrote:
>
>
> I think I had that book. I made a good living off those skills! ;-)
>
>

quote:

---

>On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:28:36 GMT, "James Calivar" <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
><nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:0h8np0lufrksgvko0suvgbr8okp7458taj@4ax.com...
>
>I just returned my copy. XXXX Valve and XXXX Steam. This game can wait the 18
>months it takes to make it a back-shelf $19.99 bargain. Maybe by that time the
>Steam servers will finally be empty.
>
>http://www.XXXXvalve.com/
>

quote:

---

>On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:08:43 -0500, "James Calivar" <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
><G. Patricks> wrote in message
>news:bodpp0lfper2p4oq264j2eq0ndut6hj5jl@4ax.com...
>
>I'm still waiting on delivery of my new AlienWare - and they seem to be
>lagging in getting it assembled. I'm going to have to make a call today and
>badger them.
>
>As soon as the new PC is up and running I will install F4 as you specified
>earlier and ring you up in ICQ.
>
>James
>

quote:

---

> The longest I had to spend was probably a few hours, why should we go back
> to the bad old days?

quote:

---

>The reason its happening I believe is your body seems to glide
>smoothly instead of bouncing up and down like you do in other FPS.
>
>PAPADOC

quote:

---

> That's what you get for wasteing your time and money on a brainless
> FPS when you have Falcon 4.0 to install and learn!!! I just bought
> EEAH on EBay (for $1.50 !!) to add to my EECH game, friggin thing is
> great and runs perfectly on XP!
>
> Priorities man, PRIORITIES!!!
> ;-)
>
> Icer
>

quote:

---

>It's the first time this
>authentication method has been used for ANY game.

quote:

---

> "rob" <roball@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:GLdnd.3653$9A.147234@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> Not saying we should. All I'm saying is that we don't have it that bad waiting
> a little while for the game to authenticate during the install.
>

quote:

---

> XXXX Steam.

quote:

---

> This seems to be a common
> issue.

quote:

---

> You mean they are still using the old "skating
> on ice" physics engine?

quote:

---

> Before you install drop me a note with your ICQ #.. I seem to have
> lost you from my contact list during my last "purge".. If it's MP you
> are interested in I would rather you install one of the SP setups,
> they are more stable for sure in MP (and maybe in SP also). Also, if
> you are interested in flying planes other than the F16 (A10, F15, F18,
> etc) then you may want to take a look at the new Aeyes cockpits. The
> new installer is excellent, allows for installation into any of the F4
> versions (BMS or SP) easily.
>
> Looking forward to it..
> Icer - 404407
>

quote:

---

> That adds a new variable. If you plan on joining up with the FB's or
> SD's you need to do an install exactly as THEY specify. Yes, you can
> easilty do multiple installs... I already have a FB install that I
> use, it's based on the SP3 exe (as all the SP's following SP3 are)
> with some twists. Its quite stable online and off.
>

quote:

---

> I'm curios about your statement - "but I'm also interested in checking
> out this much-vaunted dynamic campaign that is available in single
> player."
>
> You do realize that the dynamic campaign is 100% available (and ALL I
> play online BTW) in ONLINE MP, yes? It sounded like you have the
> notion you must play SP to get the dynamic campaigns.. maybe I just
> read it wrong.
>

quote:

---

> There is nothing like flying an F4 Campaign online with a human
> wingman/wingmen trying to accomplish something, calling out on voice
> comms (for HELP! usually.. lol), and eventually landing if all went as
> planned.
>
> Lemme know when the "Alien" arrives!
> Icer
>

quote:

---

>
>As with the other complaints, for every one person reporting problems
>there will be many who don't. However apparently there's a mention of it
>in the retail booklet somewhere; even beta testers reported it. Given that
>would be a relatively small sample, it may be an indication that this is
>more widespread than normal reports of gaming motion sickness.
>
>Andrew McP

quote:

---

> Set the FOV to 90 degrees

quote:

---

>What was the most conventional memory you managed to free up in DOS (and
>still have a functional system)... I managed 637k once... Seems like I had
>to forgo either the mouse driver or smartdrv though...

quote:

---

> On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 00:06:51 GMT, "James Calivar"
> <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Yea, it requires one to think more than the average FPS too. Same with
> Splinter Cell. I've got "SC: Pandora Tomorrow" on my Xmas wish list.

quote:

---

> Wow, so real you get sick hehe....

quote:

---

> That said there has only been one wow moment so far

quote:

---

> It may even be that -- as you pointed out before -- the lack of head
> bobbing took a while to get used to. I'm really not sure. But I played
> for quite a while yesterday and didn't feel unwell. Fingers crossed
> it'll continue that way.

quote:

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> Set the FOV to 90 degrees