quote:

---

> I've long thought there was a memory leak in IL2-FB, not a bad one, but
> enough that after a few missions it was time to exit and recapture some of
> that memory. Since PF is based on the same engine, I'd bet there was one
> there as well.
>
> "HockeyTownUSA" <magma@killspam.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:n9ednebo-6wAhRPcRVn-sA@comcast.com...
>
>

quote:

---

> Good to know I'm not alone. That sucks. I know those memory leaks aren't
> always the easiest to target in programming, but dammit, if that is the
> case I sure hope they fix it. Oleg seems good about delivering a quality
> product, but would rather they spend a little more time with bugs like
> this than trying to sell new product. Starting to sound cliche, but its
> the truth.
>
>
> "Jay Williams" <Voodoo141@buggeroffspammercox.net> wrote in message
> news:wBqjd.13199$931.4430@lakeread01...
>
>

quote:

---

> fixing bugs after the game is bought doesn't bring in new revenue
>

quote:

---

>I'm liking PF. The time skip feature is all I've ever wanted from the IL2
>series and now I have it. Haven't managed a carrier landing yet, but will
>continue trying. I only wish they'd included an RNZAF campaign but the
>Aussie one will do.
>
>One question tho, were the Jap planes really so flimsy? they explode mighty
>easy.
>

quote:

---

>Time Skip is a great feature, but they need to show the map while it is
>operating otherwise I spend 50% of my time staring at a blank screen.
>

quote:

---

>It's fine as far as an add-on is concerned. But I am disappointed at the lack
>of campaigns for the new countries and planes. I'll take it even at $40.00 for
>the extra planesets it gives me but I'm not overly wowed.
>
>

quote:

---

> Have I missed something or did you miss the fact that you have new
> campaigns for both the Japanese and USN side as either a Bomber Pilot
> or Fighter pilot. Why dont they qualify for you?
>
> General question has the close up Gunsight been in the game long? That
> is terrific and am using it already.
>
> PAPADOC
>
>

quote:

---

> hehe....Landed my shot up SBD first time first try with holes in the
> wings...darn that was fun. Took a screenshot of it then forgot to
> paste it.
>
> Darn fun sim...though it was a bit strange to be asked to defend the
> carrier with an SBD.
>
> PAPADOC
>
>

quote:

---

> hehe....Landed my shot up SBD first time first try with holes in the
> wings...darn that was fun. Took a screenshot of it then forgot to
> paste it.
>
> Darn fun sim...though it was a bit strange to be asked to defend the
> carrier with an SBD.
>
> PAPADOC
>
>
IL2[vbcol=seagreen]
will[vbcol=seagreen]
mighty[vbcol=seagreen]
>

quote:

---

> hehe....Landed my shot up SBD first time first try with holes in the
> wings...darn that was fun. Took a screenshot of it then forgot to
> paste it.
>
> Darn fun sim...though it was a bit strange to be asked to defend the
> carrier with an SBD.
>
> PAPADOC
>
>
IL2[vbcol=seagreen]
will[vbcol=seagreen]
mighty[vbcol=seagreen]
>

quote:

---

>
>Do me a favor, and start including WHO said your quotes as well as including the
>quoted text you're responding to. I can't tell who's saying what, although in
>this case I *think* I remember posting the quoted text.
>
>Thanks
>
>James
>
><nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:9s4dp09371ofcisj65vn6u20uk8gsjkn9s@4ax.com...
>

quote:

---

>Not really strange for the SBD to defend the carriers. The Lex and Yorktown
>both had their bombers on anti-torp plane defense during the Coral Sea
>battle. Some did pretty good while most of them didn't see much action
>since the Japanese planes came in a little higher than expected and sorta
>hopped right over them.
>Silvertip
><nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:7l4dp0lil0nfq5hf98bk90rovgs60olg0o@4ax.com...
>IL2
>will
>mighty
>

quote:

---

>
>I *still* haven't managed one with full realism and cockpit on. I might
>have done one but forgot to drop my hook so went flying off the end again.
>

quote:

---

>
> Well James the easiest way to do that is for you to sign each of your
> posts. Because that was indeed your post, I didnt edit anything out .
>
> You just didnt sign it....
>
> Now why doesnt the included Japanese and US Bomber and Fighter Pilot
> Campaigns qualify?
>
> PAPADOC

quote:

---

> To the OP, yes the Zero was that flimsy. The reason was no self-sealing
> tanks, and, unfortunately for the pilot, no armor. The AVG, and later the
> Navy boys, found that a burst in the cockpit area or the wing root area
> would usually bring the a/c down either with a dead pilot or as a flamer.
> Silvertip

quote:

---

>Uh...sorry, no. The easiest way is for you not to snip the "So-and-So wrote in
>message"... part of your automatic reply.
>
>What newsgroup software are you using? Every one I've used does this by
>default.
>
>"PAPADOC" <jimbob@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:2epdp0hs5sgg8re7i2j5qkgmjpskk0fckq@4ax.com...
>

quote:

---

> Have I missed something or did you miss the fact that you have new
> campaigns for both the Japanese and USN side as either a Bomber Pilot
> or Fighter pilot. Why dont they qualify for you?

quote:

---

>
> General question has the close up Gunsight been in the game long? That
> is terrific and am using it already.

quote:

---

> Also, unless I'm mistaken, I believe that they were made mostly of wood. I
> do know that hey were called "The Flying Matchbox".
>
> Phantom
>
>
> "Silvertip" <sparksr1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ieBld.26030$KJ6.22313@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>

quote:

---

> I was sort of surprised that I managed to get it down, wish I would
> have turned on the recorder. Next landing I went off the end when I
> forgot to put down the hook.
>
> Actually I believe I did put it down but for some reason when I put
> Hat left to look out the window at the sights it raises or lowers
> it....wierd. Why have joysticks assignments gotten so hard to get
> right, not CH fault that wacky Russian philosophy about assignments?
>
> PAPADOC
>
>

quote:

---

> Thanks for the information. Now I am wondering if it is possible to
> have Kamikazes? Does PF support those?
>
> I cant wait till we get US Torpedo Planes....masochistic fool that I
> am.
>
> PAPADOC
>

quote:

---

>PAPADOC <jimbob@cox.net> wrote in
>news:dlpdp0tkutguvg5as60bf3cmghin7j8q98@4ax.com:
>
>
>I'll tell ya'll that I made my first landing, then missed A BUNCH. I think
>you really gotta get the AOA right or the hook misses. Oh, and landing too
>close to the bow seems to mess it up too. Of course, I COULD actually
>watch the training, but wheres the fun in that?
>
>Chuck

quote:

---

>PAPADOC <jimbob@cox.net> wrote in news:4jpdp0l4gv5oq72l0lhal5si32lctr0a8b@
>4ax.com:
>
>
>I 'think' I read somewhere that if the last waypoint has an attack action,
>it will Kamikaze.
>
>Chuck

quote:

---

> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 07:17:50 -0600, Chuck <Nonyabiz@all.com> wrote:
>
think[vbcol=seagreen]
too[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Sort of like RLtm the first carrier landing was supposed to be "easier"

quote:

---

> second one...something about getting aboard the ship and realizing how

quote:

---

> was moving. hehe....
>
> Anyone know if you can program the AI to Kamikazi?
>
> PAPADOC
>
> My Blog all about politics and the terror war.
> www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html

quote:

---

>
> Are you confused James some posts you sign some posts you dont...thats your
> problem not mine. If it is important to you then I suggest you sign each of
> your
> posts of quit complaining. Or just remember what you write. Do try and keep
> up.
>
> Again all of this avoids the question why dont the included campaigns qualify
> as
> a stand alone product? To me the ability to fly either of 2 different roles
> for
> two different countries certainly qualifies, why doesnt it for you?
>
> PAPADOC
>
>
> My Blog all about politics and the terror war.
> www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html

quote:

---

>Papa:
>
>With all due respect, take a look at the text my newsreader is including in this
>reply. Do you see how it says ""PAPADOC" <PAPADOC@jimbobs.drive.by> wrote in
>message ..."? That is what I'm talking about. Others reading my reply can tell
>who wrote the text I'm replying to by looking at this line - they don't have to
>search around for a "signature" from you. Every newsreader I ever used
>(Outlook, Forte, Pan and XNews to name a couple) do this for you automatically.
>However, in your replies, there is no reference to the quoted person at all.
>That suggests either your newsreader is not doing this for you, or you are
>somehow cutting out this text when posting.
>
>I'm only suggesting this because your posts seem to be the only ones that don't
>do this. Out of the dozens of posts and replies I make here on an almost daily
>basis, it becomes very difficult to remember exactly what I said in each one,
>especially when snipped or quoted only in part.
>
>If you don't care to follow the conventions of everyone else that's fine - but
>it only detracts from your posts in that we sometimes have no idea who or what
>you're talking about or replying to. Coming from someone like yourself who has
>a lot to say, it's a shame to lose some or all of your audience just because of
>a misconfiguration or an editing mistake.
>
>Regards,
>
>James
>
>"PAPADOC" <PAPADOC@jimbobs.drive.by> wrote in message
>news:cn1ep059v931i54s45h9pvt4h0qdl92pf3@4ax.com...
>

quote:

---

> If you don't care to follow the conventions of everyone else that's fine

quote:

---

> Next thing you know I will be getting a lecture on top posting....

quote:

---

> You are getting funnier by the minute. First you cant remember what you

quote:

---

> and now you are blaming me for not helping you remember.
>
> All the while not answering the question.
>
> Btw I do cut off that bit of nonsense since its useless information. MOST

quote:

---

> can remember their own posts. If you think it matters that people KNOW it

quote:

---

> you who posted it then SIGN IT!
>

quote:

---

> All the while not answering the question. Ok so you dont want to answer

quote:

---

> question. Fine. You realized that it was absurd to claim that there wasnt
> anything substantial to PF and are trying to back out by telling me the

quote:

---

> post on the USENET. Weeeeeeee....yea lets review.
>

quote:

---

> Next thing you know I will be getting a lecture on top posting....ooops no

quote:

---

> don't follow that convention either...hehe. So then James what do you

quote:

---

> about PF?
>
> PAPADOC
>

quote:

---

>
>I love PF but I won't be discussing it with you. You're too argumentantive
>and you're too obstinate.
>
>Out.
>
>

quote:

---

>
>
>
>Top Poster..................................................

quote:

---

> Thanks for the information. Now I am wondering if it is possible to
> have Kamikazes? Does PF support those?
>
> I cant wait till we get US Torpedo Planes....masochistic fool that I
> am.
>
> PAPADOC
>
Yorktown[vbcol=seagreen]
the[vbcol=seagreen]
>

quote:

---

>I don't have PF yet, but if you choose the Japanese side and the mission
>objective is to fly into a carrier, won't it make for a short campaign?
>
>
>"PAPADOC" <jimbob@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:4jpdp0l4gv5oq72l0lhal5si32lctr0a8b@4ax.com...
>Yorktown
>the
>

quote:

---

> Thanks for the information. Now I am wondering if it is possible to
> have Kamikazes? Does PF support those?
>
> I cant wait till we get US Torpedo Planes....masochistic fool that I
> am.
>
> PAPADOC
>

quote:

---

>PAPADOC <jimbob@cox.net> wrote in news:4jpdp0l4gv5oq72l0lhal5si32lctr0a8b@
>4ax.com:
>
>
>I 'think' I read somewhere that if the last waypoint has an attack action,
>it will Kamikaze.
>
>Chuck

quote:

---

> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 07:17:50 -0600, Chuck <Nonyabiz@all.com> wrote:
>
think[vbcol=seagreen]
too[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Sort of like RLtm the first carrier landing was supposed to be "easier"

quote:

---

> second one...something about getting aboard the ship and realizing how

quote:

---

> was moving. hehe....
>
> Anyone know if you can program the AI to Kamikazi?
>
> PAPADOC
>
> My Blog all about politics and the terror war.
> www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html

quote:

---

>
>I love PF but I won't be discussing it with you. You're too argumentantive
>and you're too obstinate.
>
>Out.
>
>

quote:

---

>I don't have PF yet, but if you choose the Japanese side and the mission
>objective is to fly into a carrier, won't it make for a short campaign?
>
>
>"PAPADOC" <jimbob@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:4jpdp0l4gv5oq72l0lhal5si32lctr0a8b@4ax.com...
>Yorktown
>the
>

quote:

---

>It's fine as far as an add-on is concerned. But I am disappointed at the lack
>of campaigns for the new countries and planes. I'll take it even at $40.00 for
>the extra planesets it gives me but I'm not overly wowed.
>
>

quote:

---

> Next thing you know I will be getting a lecture on top posting....

quote:

---

> You are getting funnier by the minute. First you cant remember what you

quote:

---

> and now you are blaming me for not helping you remember.
>
> All the while not answering the question.
>
> Btw I do cut off that bit of nonsense since its useless information. MOST

quote:

---

> can remember their own posts. If you think it matters that people KNOW it

quote:

---

> you who posted it then SIGN IT!
>

quote:

---

> All the while not answering the question. Ok so you dont want to answer

quote:

---

> question. Fine. You realized that it was absurd to claim that there wasnt
> anything substantial to PF and are trying to back out by telling me the

quote:

---

> post on the USENET. Weeeeeeee....yea lets review.
>

quote:

---

> Next thing you know I will be getting a lecture on top posting....ooops no

quote:

---

> don't follow that convention either...hehe. So then James what do you

quote:

---

> about PF?
>
> PAPADOC
>

quote:

---

> Have I missed something or did you miss the fact that you have new
> campaigns for both the Japanese and USN side as either a Bomber Pilot
> or Fighter pilot. Why dont they qualify for you?
>
> General question has the close up Gunsight been in the game long? That
> is terrific and am using it already.
>
> PAPADOC
>
>

quote:

---

> hehe....Landed my shot up SBD first time first try with holes in the
> wings...darn that was fun. Took a screenshot of it then forgot to
> paste it.
>
> Darn fun sim...though it was a bit strange to be asked to defend the
> carrier with an SBD.
>
> PAPADOC
>
>

quote:

---

> hehe....Landed my shot up SBD first time first try with holes in the
> wings...darn that was fun. Took a screenshot of it then forgot to
> paste it.
>
> Darn fun sim...though it was a bit strange to be asked to defend the
> carrier with an SBD.
>
> PAPADOC
>
>
IL2[vbcol=seagreen]
will[vbcol=seagreen]
mighty[vbcol=seagreen]
>

quote:

---

>
>Do me a favor, and start including WHO said your quotes as well as including the
>quoted text you're responding to. I can't tell who's saying what, although in
>this case I *think* I remember posting the quoted text.
>
>Thanks
>
>James
>
><nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:9s4dp09371ofcisj65vn6u20uk8gsjkn9s@4ax.com...
>

quote:

---

>Not really strange for the SBD to defend the carriers. The Lex and Yorktown
>both had their bombers on anti-torp plane defense during the Coral Sea
>battle. Some did pretty good while most of them didn't see much action
>since the Japanese planes came in a little higher than expected and sorta
>hopped right over them.
>Silvertip
><nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:7l4dp0lil0nfq5hf98bk90rovgs60olg0o@4ax.com...
>IL2
>will
>mighty
>

quote:

---

>
>I *still* haven't managed one with full realism and cockpit on. I might
>have done one but forgot to drop my hook so went flying off the end again.
>

quote:

---

> To the OP, yes the Zero was that flimsy. The reason was no self-sealing
> tanks, and, unfortunately for the pilot, no armor. The AVG, and later the
> Navy boys, found that a burst in the cockpit area or the wing root area
> would usually bring the a/c down either with a dead pilot or as a flamer.
> Silvertip

quote:

---

>Uh...sorry, no. The easiest way is for you not to snip the "So-and-So wrote in
>message"... part of your automatic reply.
>
>What newsgroup software are you using? Every one I've used does this by
>default.
>
>"PAPADOC" <jimbob@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:2epdp0hs5sgg8re7i2j5qkgmjpskk0fckq@4ax.com...
>

quote:

---

>Time Skip is a great feature, but they need to show the map while it is
>operating otherwise I spend 50% of my time staring at a blank screen.
>

quote:

---

> If you don't care to follow the conventions of everyone else that's fine

quote:

---

> Also, unless I'm mistaken, I believe that they were made mostly of wood. I
> do know that hey were called "The Flying Matchbox".
>
> Phantom
>
>
> "Silvertip" <sparksr1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ieBld.26030$KJ6.22313@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>

quote:

---

> Thanks for the information. Now I am wondering if it is possible to
> have Kamikazes? Does PF support those?
>
> I cant wait till we get US Torpedo Planes....masochistic fool that I
> am.
>
> PAPADOC
>

quote:

---

> Thanks for the information. Now I am wondering if it is possible to
> have Kamikazes? Does PF support those?
>
> I cant wait till we get US Torpedo Planes....masochistic fool that I
> am.
>
> PAPADOC
>
Yorktown[vbcol=seagreen]
the[vbcol=seagreen]
>

quote:

---

> I'm only suggesting this because your posts seem to be the only ones that
> don't do this. Out of the dozens of posts and replies I make here on an
> almost daily basis, it becomes very difficult to remember exactly what I
> said in each one, especially when snipped or quoted only in part.

quote:

---

>Correct communication based on accepted norms certainly makes things easier.
>This link seems to be recommended often.
>http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/nquote.html
>
>OE, which I use as well, is more geared toward Email, with the cursor
>plunked on top of the text when you reply.
>Folks not reading up on the "norms" of Usenet, follow the Email method.
>As a result we get a dogs breakfast of posting styles (I'm certainly guilty
>of that).
>
>I found this utility for OE that helps tidy things up.
>http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>
>Wish M$ would make the option to place the cursor at the bottom of the text,
>when replying.
>
>I'll add these two links to the FAQ on Dec. 1st.
>
>
>

quote:

---

> Next thing you know I will be getting a lecture on top posting....

quote:

---

> You are getting funnier by the minute. First you cant remember what you

quote:

---

> and now you are blaming me for not helping you remember.
>
> All the while not answering the question.
>
> Btw I do cut off that bit of nonsense since its useless information. MOST

quote:

---

> can remember their own posts. If you think it matters that people KNOW it

quote:

---

> you who posted it then SIGN IT!
>

quote:

---

> All the while not answering the question. Ok so you dont want to answer

quote:

---

> question. Fine. You realized that it was absurd to claim that there wasnt
> anything substantial to PF and are trying to back out by telling me the

quote:

---

> post on the USENET. Weeeeeeee....yea lets review.
>

quote:

---

> Next thing you know I will be getting a lecture on top posting....ooops no

quote:

---

> don't follow that convention either...hehe. So then James what do you

quote:

---

> about PF?
>
> PAPADOC
>

quote:

---

>
>I love PF but I won't be discussing it with you. You're too argumentantive
>and you're too obstinate.
>
>Out.
>
>

quote:

---

>
>
>
>Top Poster..................................................

quote:

---

>
> Are you confused James some posts you sign some posts you dont...thats your
> problem not mine. If it is important to you then I suggest you sign each of
> your
> posts of quit complaining. Or just remember what you write. Do try and keep
> up.
>
> Again all of this avoids the question why dont the included campaigns qualify
> as
> a stand alone product? To me the ability to fly either of 2 different roles
> for
> two different countries certainly qualifies, why doesnt it for you?
>
> PAPADOC
>
>
> My Blog all about politics and the terror war.
> www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html

quote:

---

>Papa:
>
>With all due respect, take a look at the text my newsreader is including in this
>reply. Do you see how it says ""PAPADOC" <PAPADOC@jimbobs.drive.by> wrote in
>message ..."? That is what I'm talking about. Others reading my reply can tell
>who wrote the text I'm replying to by looking at this line - they don't have to
>search around for a "signature" from you. Every newsreader I ever used
>(Outlook, Forte, Pan and XNews to name a couple) do this for you automatically.
>However, in your replies, there is no reference to the quoted person at all.
>That suggests either your newsreader is not doing this for you, or you are
>somehow cutting out this text when posting.
>
>I'm only suggesting this because your posts seem to be the only ones that don't
>do this. Out of the dozens of posts and replies I make here on an almost daily
>basis, it becomes very difficult to remember exactly what I said in each one,
>especially when snipped or quoted only in part.
>
>If you don't care to follow the conventions of everyone else that's fine - but
>it only detracts from your posts in that we sometimes have no idea who or what
>you're talking about or replying to. Coming from someone like yourself who has
>a lot to say, it's a shame to lose some or all of your audience just because of
>a misconfiguration or an editing mistake.
>
>Regards,
>
>James
>
>"PAPADOC" <PAPADOC@jimbobs.drive.by> wrote in message
>news:cn1ep059v931i54s45h9pvt4h0qdl92pf3@4ax.com...
>

quote:

---

> If you don't care to follow the conventions of everyone else that's fine

quote:

---

> Thanks for the information. Now I am wondering if it is possible to
> have Kamikazes? Does PF support those?
>
> I cant wait till we get US Torpedo Planes....masochistic fool that I
> am.
>
> PAPADOC
>
Yorktown[vbcol=seagreen]
the[vbcol=seagreen]
>

quote:

---

>I don't have PF yet, but if you choose the Japanese side and the mission
>objective is to fly into a carrier, won't it make for a short campaign?
>
>
>"PAPADOC" <jimbob@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:4jpdp0l4gv5oq72l0lhal5si32lctr0a8b@4ax.com...
>Yorktown
>the
>