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Peter

2004-10-21, 5:47 pm

Hi,

Having problems with a new P4 3.0 GHz system, Asus P4P800SE mobo, 9600XT.
Flying Lomac or IL2:FB with a Saitek Evo USB Joystick - whole computer
hangs after a few minutes of play. Reset button is the only thing that
helps. Without the joystick; no problems.

Any suggestions?

eh, I mean, HELP!

-peter



Simon Robbins

2004-10-21, 5:47 pm

"Peter" <nomail@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:2tqkdgF23iknsU1@uni-berlin.de...
quote:

> Having problems with a new P4 3.0 GHz system, Asus P4P800SE mobo, 9600XT.
> Flying Lomac or IL2:FB with a Saitek Evo USB Joystick - whole computer
> hangs after a few minutes of play. Reset button is the only thing that
> helps. Without the joystick; no problems.


I have the same hang problem, but not just with Lock-On. I'd assume it was a
DirectX issue of some kind. I hadn't made a connection with the joystick.
I'll have to unplug it and see if that helps. I don't have any of those lock
ups in MSFS2004 though, and I'm using the stick in that.

Does your sound do a rapid loop stutter when it locks also?

Si



Peter

2004-10-21, 5:47 pm

2004-10-21, Simon Robbins wrote:
quote:

> "Peter" <nomail@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:2tqkdgF23iknsU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
> I have the same hang problem, but not just with Lock-On. I'd assume it was a
> DirectX issue of some kind. I hadn't made a connection with the joystick.
> I'll have to unplug it and see if that helps. I don't have any of those lock
> ups in MSFS2004 though, and I'm using the stick in that.


Same here, not in MS2004.

But I found something on some forum - it could have to do with
HyperThreading in newer P4 processors. My system is 2 weeks old - I guess
that qualifies as new :-) I went into the BIOS and switched off HT - so
far no lock ups, but it has only been 20 minutes...
quote:

> Does your sound do a rapid loop stutter when it locks also?


No, the sound siappears completely.

Regards,
-peter

Dan

2004-10-21, 5:47 pm

> But I found something on some forum - it could have to do with
quote:

> HyperThreading in newer P4 processors. My system is 2 weeks old - I guess
> that qualifies as new :-) I went into the BIOS and switched off HT - so
> far no lock ups, but it has only been 20 minutes...
>


Its a known bug - Hyperthreading and Saitek dont get along! I believe that
Saitek are releasing a fixed driver set.

Have a look on their website, www.saitekusa.com

Dan


Peter

2004-10-22, 12:46 am

2004-10-21, Dan wrote:
quote:

>
> Its a known bug - Hyperthreading and Saitek dont get along! I believe that
> Saitek are releasing a fixed driver set.
>
> Have a look on their website, www.saitekusa.com


Yes, they seem to be related. I tried a new beta driver and control panel,
(from the Saitek site) but that didn't help. Switching off HT in the BIOS
did the trick, but that's not a good solution :-)

-peter

Simon Robbins

2004-10-22, 12:46 am

"Dan" <dan@virigin.org> wrote in message
news:hUVdd.641$oI6.228@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
quote:

> Its a known bug - Hyperthreading and Saitek dont get along! I believe

that
quote:

> Saitek are releasing a fixed driver set.


Thanks for the info, that's really useful. I'll give it a go tomorrow.

Si


DR

2004-10-22, 6:46 am

I had the same mobo but a 9800 pro and had lockups within 2 minutes of
playing any game. I eventually removed the video card for an Nvidia one and
that solved the problem. It was a disappointing solution because the 9800
was a better card.




Simon Robbins

2004-10-24, 12:46 am

"Dan" <dan@virigin.org> wrote in message
news:hUVdd.641$oI6.228@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
quote:

> Its a known bug - Hyperthreading and Saitek dont get along! I believe

that
quote:

> Saitek are releasing a fixed driver set.


Thanks for the info, that's really useful. I'll give it a go tomorrow.

Si


AM

2004-10-25, 12:46 am


"Peter" <durians.nomail@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:2u1utcF25esr5U1@uni-berlin.de...
quote:

> 2004-10-24, Simon Robbins wrote:
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>
> Try switching off hyperthreading in the BIOS just to see if it cures the
> problem.
>
> (I have a 865PE mobo, and a 9600XT card - problems disappeared after I did
> just that.)
>
> -peter
>



I had one crash problem like this, ans was going to try what
you said. Then a few days later (ie; today) I tried again. and
no problems and hangs at all one a long Bf 110 mission.









































































Peter

2004-10-25, 6:47 am

2004-10-21, Simon Robbins wrote:
quote:

> "Peter" <nomail@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:2tqkdgF23iknsU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
> I have the same hang problem, but not just with Lock-On. I'd assume it was a
> DirectX issue of some kind. I hadn't made a connection with the joystick.
> I'll have to unplug it and see if that helps. I don't have any of those lock
> ups in MSFS2004 though, and I'm using the stick in that.


Same here, not in MS2004.

But I found something on some forum - it could have to do with
HyperThreading in newer P4 processors. My system is 2 weeks old - I guess
that qualifies as new :-) I went into the BIOS and switched off HT - so
far no lock ups, but it has only been 20 minutes...
quote:

> Does your sound do a rapid loop stutter when it locks also?


No, the sound siappears completely.

Regards,
-peter

Simon Robbins

2004-10-27, 12:47 am

"Peter" <nomail@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:2tqkdgF23iknsU1@uni-berlin.de...
quote:

> Having problems with a new P4 3.0 GHz system, Asus P4P800SE mobo, 9600XT.
> Flying Lomac or IL2:FB with a Saitek Evo USB Joystick - whole computer
> hangs after a few minutes of play. Reset button is the only thing that
> helps. Without the joystick; no problems.


I have the same hang problem, but not just with Lock-On. I'd assume it was a
DirectX issue of some kind. I hadn't made a connection with the joystick.
I'll have to unplug it and see if that helps. I don't have any of those lock
ups in MSFS2004 though, and I'm using the stick in that.

Does your sound do a rapid loop stutter when it locks also?

Si



Dan

2004-10-27, 12:47 am

> But I found something on some forum - it could have to do with
quote:

> HyperThreading in newer P4 processors. My system is 2 weeks old - I guess
> that qualifies as new :-) I went into the BIOS and switched off HT - so
> far no lock ups, but it has only been 20 minutes...
>


Its a known bug - Hyperthreading and Saitek dont get along! I believe that
Saitek are releasing a fixed driver set.

Have a look on their website, www.saitekusa.com

Dan


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