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> The key thing is this quote: Koei is "looking to appeal to Western
> tastes". With PS3 losing so many exclusive games to 360, is FF next??
>
> http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/koei/t...unch-202763.php
> I just got out of a group interview with the producers of Koei's Fatal
> Inertia and Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War where they told the
> group that the company's first racing game wouldn't make the November
> Japanese launch.

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>
> Both games are PlayStation 3 exclusives at this point, but the company
> indicated they're in discussions with Microsoft to bring the game to
> their platform as well. Koei devs drove home the point multiple times
> that they're looking to appeal to Western tastes, so don't be surprised
> when the 360 announcement hits
>

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> The key thing is this quote: Koei is "looking to appeal to Western
> tastes". With PS3 losing so many exclusive games to 360,

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>
> http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/koei/t...unch-202763.php
> I just got out of a group interview with the producers of Koei's Fatal
> Inertia and Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War where they told the
> group that the company's first racing game wouldn't make the November
> Japanese launch.
>
> Both games are PlayStation 3 exclusives at this point, but the company
> indicated they're in discussions with Microsoft to bring the game to
> their platform as well. Koei devs drove home the point multiple times
> that they're looking to appeal to Western tastes, so don't be surprised
> when the 360 announcement hits

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>
> TheGame wrote:
>
> The 360's getting the PS3's leftovers, princess. Try not to cry too
> hard

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>
>TheGame wrote:
>
>The 360's getting the PS3's leftovers, princess. Try not to cry too
>hard
>

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>
> TheGame wrote:
>
> The 360's getting the PS3's leftovers, princess. Try not to cry too
> hard

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>
> is FF next??
>

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>
> "TheGame" <n0n0n0n0n0@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:1159123288.050242.109480@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Does this really come as any surprise? All i've ever seen of the game is
> highres stills.
>
>
>
>

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> The fact is - there will be very few exclusive games for either system,
> period. It's financially unsound.

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>
> "Brenden D. Chase" <brenden.chaseREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:DrBRg.1630$eZ4.154@dukeread06...
>
>

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>
>"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:ymYRg.12583$v%4.2801@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>financially unsound because casual gamers only buy one console. The thing
>that sucks for the casual gamer is that they've got a large library of ps2
>games, and upgrading to any other console other than PS3 means selling what
>they have, or trying to make room for another box. Casual gamers are just
>that... casual, and are not going to want to fuss much with replacing
>everything they own for one box and two games that they like. I expect a
>repeat of the last gen... Sony takes all.
>

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> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:27:41 -0400, "Brenden D. Chase"
> <brenden.chaseREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> really?
>
> honestly?
>
> i think it will be a lot closer this generation than it was last. i
> don't expect the PS3 to flop (tho Sony are doing their damnedest to
> make it a possibility) but i think there'll be a fairly significant
> sway toward microsoft this time round.

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> Sadly I'm afraid I'm with Brenden. We have a skewed, hardcore
> perception on things. The people who are going to buy PS3 have no idea
> how good the dashboard or Live or Geometry Wars is. They want to play
> GTA and NFS with a dual shock on a machine that says PlayStation on the
> top. It's very, very sad.
>
> --
> Zo

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>
> Zomoniac wrote:
>
>
> Microsoft will only have themselves to blame for any lack of general
> public interest or knowlege in the 360. They have had a massive start
> over Sony and what have they done with that advantage? I'm talking
> advertising wise, promotion wise, informing the general public wise?
>
> Ok I realise that this all falls under the heading advertising. If you
> consider that a company such as Andrex who sell toilet paper and have a
> hell of a lot of competition NEVER stop advertising their product on
> prime time and non-prime time TV, magazines, billboards the lot. For
> crying out loud the Andrex dog has it's own f'king web site and fan
> club!
>
> Now how many adverts have I seen for the 360 in the UK outside of games
> magazines by the company that apparently have the largest budget for
> advertising? Erm well I've seen erm... in the last few months? erm...
> well none!
>
> If it was me the campaign for product knowledge and domination of the
> market place would have started on the release date and would still be
> going now. The odd advert here and there almost as an afterthought just
> doesn't cut the mustard for Joe Bloggs and his kids. They need to be
> constantly reminded that the 360 is out there and why it is such a
> sodding brilliant companion for the broadband connection that little
> Johnny has convinced them to buy. They need it drummed into them that
> it looks great in the sitting room (don't mention it's jet like DVD
> drive though).
>
> It is a well known fact that the UK general public buy products that
> have been rammed down their throughts by rabid advertising companies.
> Sony know this and soon their machine will start. If MS lose this race
> they only have themselves to blame.

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> financially unsound because casual gamers only buy one console. The thing
> that sucks for the casual gamer is that they've got a large library of ps2
> games, and upgrading to any other console other than PS3 means selling what
> they have, or trying to make room for another box. Casual gamers are just
> that... casual, and are not going to want to fuss much with replacing
> everything they own for one box and two games that they like. I expect a
> repeat of the last gen... Sony takes all.

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> Sadly I'm afraid I'm with Brenden. We have a skewed, hardcore
> perception on things. The people who are going to buy PS3 have no idea
> how good the dashboard or Live or Geometry Wars is. They want to play
> GTA and NFS with a dual shock on a machine that says PlayStation on the
> top. It's very, very sad.
>
> --
> Zo
>
> For Sale: FIFA RTWC 06, Fight Night Round 3, Oblivion, FCI:P, NBA Live
> 06 (all 360)

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> Wrong. There are many converts to 360. I owned PS and PS2, never owned
> XB. But I have a 360 cuz I am tired of the crap sony is pulling

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>On 2006-09-26 18:38:32 +0100, "TheGame" <n0n0n0n0n0@excite.com> said:
>
>
>Wrong. You read internet newsgroups, fora, websites, etc. and have far
>more of a clue about Sony and the industry than the casual punter. Do
>you think 95% of people who own a PS2 have any idea that it was delayed
>or would have a clue what you were on about if you started talking
>about giant enemy crabs or real-time weapon change? A large number of
>the clued up PS2 fans who are online and clued up are switching to MS,
>yes, but I don't see that necessarily spreading to the retarded masses.

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> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:47:07 +0100, Zomoniac
> <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> but you expect the "retarded masses" to be willing to pay 500+ quid
> for a PS3 at launch?
>
> i know i certainly don't expect that to happen, Sony are pricing
> themselves out of their own market, tbh.

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> Wrong. You read internet newsgroups, fora, websites, etc. and have far
> more of a clue about Sony and the industry than the casual punter. Do
> you think 95% of people who own a PS2 have any idea that it was delayed
> or would have a clue what you were on about if you started talking
> about giant enemy crabs or real-time weapon change? A large number of
> the clued up PS2 fans who are online and clued up are switching to MS,
> yes, but I don't see that necessarily spreading to the retarded masses.
>
> --
> Zo
>
> For Sale: FIFA RTWC 06, Fight Night Round 3, Oblivion (all 360)

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> but you expect the "retarded masses" to be willing to pay 500+ quid
> for a PS3 at launch?
>
> i know i certainly don't expect that to happen, Sony are pricing
> themselves out of their own market, tbh.
> --
>
> gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
> http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
> Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb

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> If you think that people (not *everyone* of course) do not know that
> PS3 price is going to be far greater than $299, then you must not know
> that local and national news and newspapers, game mags, general mags,
> MTV, etc have reported on PS3 price. You must think console gaming is
> still a niche market when it is actually big biz. Hell, when M$
> announced that Pacman and other old arcade games were coming to XBL,
> the hourly national news of my local news radio covered it. So yes,
> many PS2 owners (not all of course) have bought a 360 after hearing PS3
> price. I personally know of 2 people who did. Another PS2 owner I know
> plan to get a Wii instead of PS3 due to its price.

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>On 2006-09-26 19:59:35 +0100, Chris F <chris@asifimtellingyoulot.com> said:
>
>
>I dunno. I have a skewed opinion, I'm from Bradford, where everyone
>buys a PS2 to play GTA and NFS, innit, but I'm sure given they all seem
>to find the money from somewhere (can't begin to think where) to buy
>brand new Imprezas and Evos, I'm sure they'll manage.

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> Sorry charlie, but "casual gamers" are not going to spend $700 for
> console gaming... Besides,
> who will want to even look at bad looking PS2 games once you play
> next-gen games? I haven't
> touched my PS2 since I got 360.

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>
> Brenden D. Chase wrote:
>

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>
> "TheGame" <n0n0n0n0n0@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:1159292116.551448.175400@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> Exactly.

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> Aye, but people are stupid. How many people bought a PS2 over an Xbox
> because it would play their PS1 library, and then once they got it
> never once played a PS1 game on it? A very, very big number.
>
> --
> Zo
>
> For Sale: FIFA RTWC 06, Fight Night Round 3, Oblivion (all 360)

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> Microsoft will only have themselves to blame for any lack of general
> public interest or knowlege in the 360. They have had a massive start
> over Sony and what have they done with that advantage? I'm talking
> advertising wise, promotion wise, informing the general public wise?

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> It is a well known fact that the UK general public buy products that
> have been rammed down their throughts by rabid advertising companies.
> Sony know this and soon their machine will start. If MS lose this race
> they only have themselves to blame.

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> Wrong. You read internet newsgroups, fora, websites, etc. and have far
> more of a clue about Sony and the industry than the casual punter. Do
> you think 95% of people who own a PS2 have any idea that it was delayed
> or would have a clue what you were on about if you started talking
> about giant enemy crabs or real-time weapon change? A large number of
> the clued up PS2 fans who are online and clued up are switching to MS,
> yes, but I don't see that necessarily spreading to the retarded masses.

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> In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 muthafunkster@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>
> It doesn't make sense to advertise "the console". Sega learned that
> the hard way. "It's Thinking"??? Pu-lease. Show me games. Not geeks
> bouncing on a couch going ga-ga about being able to plug in a phone
> line to their Dreamcast. There weren't any games shown...mainly
> because there weren't any online games at that time - but OOH! ONLINE!
> WOOT!
>
> Anyways. I have seen some 360 game ads even if the game in question
> was for multiple platforms. COD2 was a good example. Gameplay shown
> was from the 360 and the ad ended with the Xbox 360 splash logo. Even
> other games that are avilable on the PS2 showed the Xbox 360 logo so
> obviously Microsoft is spending money here.

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> but you expect the "retarded masses" to be willing to pay 500+ quid
> for a PS3 at launch?

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> i know i certainly don't expect that to happen, Sony are pricing
> themselves out of their own market, tbh.

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[vbcol=seagreen]
> Is that the same ad for COD2 that got pulled last Christmas when a
> bunch of people bought the game and it didn't look like the ad (since
> the 'gameplay' shown was all CGI and not 360) and complained to the ASA?

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> Is that the same ad for COD2 that got pulled last Christmas when a
> bunch of people bought the game and it didn't look like the ad (since
> the 'gameplay' shown was all CGI and not 360) and complained to the ASA?
>
> --
> Zo
>
> For Sale: FIFA RTWC 06, Fight Night Round 3, Oblivion (all 360)

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> <omarenoryt@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1159155166.361391.290790@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Hey Omar I thimk it's time to move beyond AOL. Mkay? Good.