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| Fred Liken 2005-10-26, 7:33 pm |
| "Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
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> Fred Liken wrote:
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> She certainly is a fruitcake. Very embarrassing.
I mean, can we leave her there. She'd die in a month or so, no? Obviously,
she'd simply come down and that blow to her ego would hopefully end her
crusade of stupidity. Plus, she'd have to come up with all the fine money
for public defecation charges she'll rack up.
Honestly, though, unless she's filed for the permit to do something like
that, she's 100% full of shit about the whole stunt.
She sounds more and more like Job from Arrested Development.
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| Andy Turner 2005-10-26, 7:33 pm |
| On 26 Oct 2005 08:49:26 -0700, "Robert P Holley"
<holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote:
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>Fred Liken wrote:
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>She certainly is a fruitcake. Very embarrassing.
She's got a point though. How long before Bush has sent more troops to
their deaths than people were originally killed on 9/11? Anyone know
the figures?
andyt
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| TheLightsAreOn 2005-10-26, 7:33 pm |
| > On 26 Oct 2005 08:49:26 -0700, "Robert P Holley"
quote:
> <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote:
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> She's got a point though. How long before Bush has sent more troops to
> their deaths than people were originally killed on 9/11? Anyone know
> the figures?
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> andyt
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How long did WWII take before we lost more than were killed at Pearl
Harbor?
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| Fred Liken 2005-10-26, 7:33 pm |
| "Andy Turner" <andyt@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
quote:
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> She's got a point though. How long before Bush has sent more troops to
> their deaths than people were originally killed on 9/11? Anyone know
> the figures?
? Those two things aren't related. Not sure what your point is.
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| Android66 2005-10-27, 7:31 pm |
| Yes, I know the figures. The estimates are that 2,996 people died on
9/11, so the two tallies aren't equal. But it seems that you are
suggesting that, if the war in Iraq does claim more U.S. casualties
than the 9/11 attack which precipitated the "war on terror," it is
either unjust or not worth the heavy price paid (in lives).
2,403 Americans were killed at Pearl Harbor. Shortly thereafter, we
declared war on Japan, Italy, and Germany...not just Japan.
Thankfully, that generation of Americans recognized the threat to
liberty that Hitler represented. If the events had happened today, the
anti-war protesters would want us to allow Germany to take over Europe
and England unchecked (since they never attacked us, after all). An
estimated 405,399 Americans died fighting in WWII--more than 168 times
the number of casualties at Pearl Harbor.
If the war in Iraq is necessary...and that's another question...it
should have nothing to do with "numbers." You don't go to war only
until you've lost enough troops to equal the enemy losses, or until
you've killed enough enemies to make up for the provocation. But, even
if numbers did matter, we would need to lose almost 1,000 more troops
in Iraq before equalling the tally of the 9/11 attacks. And we would
have to lose 504,000 troops in Iraq (168 times the 9/11 dead) to equal
the ratio of WWII dead to Pearl Harbor dead.
Was WWII worth it? I think so, but I didn't personally lose a father or
a son to war. But neither was I rescued from a concentration camp or
living in fear under Nazi tyrrany. Only history can judge the
necessity of war, based on the outcome versus the probable outcome of
no war/defeat. On that basis, it is far too early to judge the war in
Iraq. If the Middle East is more stable in 20 years, if ethnic groups
are no longer being murdered, if women are no longer considered
property, and if terrorists are no longer given safe haven, then I
think it will be worth it.
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| Junkyard Willie 2005-10-27, 11:30 pm |
| I was wondering when she would pull her next publicity stunt; what the
hurricanes, she hasn't been in the news so much anymore.
I give her another week or so before she falls off the radar again; and good
riddance.
"Fred Liken" <nothanks@toocoolforschool.com> wrote in message
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> http://abcnews.go.com/US/IraqCovera...tory?id=1242048
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| Fred Liken 2005-10-31, 7:35 pm |
| "MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
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quote:
> In article <1130341766.883832.177040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> holleyrp@delanet.com says...
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> She lost her son over their.
A lot of people have. She just happens to want to capitalize on it more
than anyone else. How embarrassing to her family, etc.
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> She has every right to voice her feelings.
Yep, she has the right to prove how much of a fruitcake she is and how
little significance she actually has.
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> In this country everybody has a right to voice their feelings.
Not tied to the Whitehouse fence, you don't!
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> If you want to be one of Bush's XXXXed in the head lovers then so be it.
LUVARS!
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> The other 60% of us have had enough.
FREEDOM ISN'T FREEEEEE, SIR!
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| Fred Liken 2005-10-31, 7:35 pm |
| "MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5S49f.12690$gj1.6238@fed1read05...
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> In article <a-udnRhLt6cBEvzeRVn-qw@comcast.com>,
> junkyardwillieNOSPAM@tekken.cc says...
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> Now if Bush would only do the same.....
Wha? So Cheney could be President?
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| Andy Turner 2005-10-31, 7:35 pm |
| On 31 Oct 2005 10:10:03 -0600, "Fred Liken"
<nothanks@toocoolforschool.com> wrote:
quote:
>"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:AR49f.12689$gj1.7215@fed1read05...
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>A lot of people have. She just happens to want to capitalize on it more
>than anyone else.
In what manner?
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> How embarrassing to her family, etc.
How so?
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>Yep, she has the right to prove how much of a fruitcake she is and how
>little significance she actually has.
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>Not tied to the Whitehouse fence, you don't!
Maybe she's simply pissed of with "how little significance she
actually has".
andyt
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| MS#1Fanboy-JoJo 2005-10-31, 7:35 pm |
| In article <43664183$1$232$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>,
nothanks@toocoolforschool.com says...
quote:
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>"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:5S49f.12690$gj1.6238@fed1read05...
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>Wha? So Cheney could be President?
>
>
Won't hurt to see both go.
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| MS#1Fanboy-JoJo 2005-10-31, 7:35 pm |
| In article <43664183$0$232$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>,
nothanks@toocoolforschool.com says...
quote:
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>"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:AR49f.12689$gj1.7215@fed1read05...
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>A lot of people have. She just happens to want to capitalize on it more
>than anyone else. How embarrassing to her family, etc.
>
She doesn't agree with what her son died for and I'm not even sure Bush would
even be able to tell her what the reason is either.
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>Yep, she has the right to prove how much of a fruitcake she is and how
>little significance she actually has.
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58% now say the war was a mistake. She is doing a great job.
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>Not tied to the Whitehouse fence, you don't!
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Tied to the Whitehouse fence? How about spewing secret clearance stuff to the
public?
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>LUVARS!
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>FREEDOM ISN'T FREEEEEE, SIR!
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I don't recall Iraq ever making threats to our freedom? LOL!! You really do
drink the Bush piss.
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| Fred Liken 2005-10-31, 7:35 pm |
| "Andy Turner" <andyt@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In what manner?
..... do you know who she is?
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> How so?
They sent a letter explaining why.
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> Maybe she's simply pissed of with "how little significance she
> actually has".
Perhaps... most egotistical maniacs are.
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| Fred Liken 2005-10-31, 7:35 pm |
| "MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
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quote:
> She doesn't agree with what her son died for and I'm not even sure Bush
> would
> even be able to tell her what the reason is either.
.... so?
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> 58% now say the war was a mistake. She is doing a great job.
lol. You don't honestly believe that she's had anything to do with that...
do you?
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> Tied to the Whitehouse fence? How about spewing secret clearance stuff to
> the
> public?
.... and he's been indicted ... (Nevermind the fact that the charges aren't
about actually "spewing secret clearence stuff" because there was no crime
there, but obstruction of justice, etc,... A little something that Clinton
has shown is ok... or is it just for Clinton? I get confused sometimes by
your ilk's double standards and when which applies. Honestly, this is less
damaging than Clinton was.)
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> I don't recall Iraq ever making threats to our freedom?
Our as in some nationalistic mentality or our as in a human caring
mentality?
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> LOL!! You really do drink the Bush piss.
And you drink mine... I call it trickle down pissenomics.
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| MS#1Fanboy-JoJo 2005-10-31, 7:35 pm |
| In article <43668add$0$250$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>,
nothanks@toocoolforschool.com says...
quote:
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>"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:NPu9f.12942$gj1.6838@fed1read05...
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>... so?
>
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>lol. You don't honestly believe that she's had anything to do with that...
>do you?
>
It hasn't helped... thats for sure.
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>... and he's been indicted ... (Nevermind the fact that the charges aren't
>about actually "spewing secret clearence stuff" because there was no crime
>there, but obstruction of justice, etc,... A little something that Clinton
>has shown is ok... or is it just for Clinton? I get confused sometimes by
>your ilk's double standards and when which applies. Honestly, this is less
>damaging than Clinton was.)
>
Getting some XXX and spilling top secret stuff are two different apples. In
other words spilling the beans on a CIA officer can get somebody killed but
spilling cum on some girls dress just makes somebody happy for a few
seconds(from the looks of that fat XXX I'm not sure Bill should have been so
happy).
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>Our as in some nationalistic mentality or our as in a human caring
>mentality?
>
Our as in our country was safer with Saddam in place. Bush created the largest
recruitment area ever for Al Queda. You need a jerk off to keep all those wild
assholes in check.
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>And you drink mine... I call it trickle down pissenomics.
>
Don't get me going with talk of golden showers. I love the taste of iron in
the morning.
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| Fred Liken 2005-10-31, 7:35 pm |
| "MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote
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> It hasn't helped... thats for sure.
FOR SURE???? Having the Democrats rally around such a nutcase tends to
polerize fence sitters. People don't like idiots telling them what to
think.
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> Getting some XXX and spilling top secret stuff are two different apples.
Oh, no doubt... but please, do stay on topic. One was willfully perjuring
to deny Paula Jones due process after he sexually harassed her. Libby, et
al, talked about a CIA employee that many people already knew was a CIA
employee that hadn't been undercover in a foreign land for an awfully long
time.
Basically, one was a crime, perjury, the other wasn't a crime. There's no
indictment of a crime commited in the Plame case in relation to her "cover"
because there wasn't a crime commited. No one's even pretending there was
one except for the Pink-Os that can't handle the fact that they can't push
their fascist agenda with elections.
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> In
> other words spilling the beans on a CIA officer can get somebody killed
lol. You are ignorant. Plame wasn't in any danger and people knew she was
CIA.
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> but
> spilling cum on some girls dress just makes somebody happy for a few
> seconds(from the looks of that fat XXX I'm not sure Bill should have been
> so
> happy).
More ignorance. It was about Paula Jones, not Monica. Keep up.
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> Our as in our country was safer with Saddam in place.
What? Your statement is simply not true. You don't seem to recognize the
enforcement of the no fly zone was a huge safety risk. And as far as "our
country" proper, it's dropped. There's been less attacks on the US than
before taking out Saddam.
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> Bush created the largest recruitment area ever for Al Queda.
Nice soundbite... no evidence.
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> Don't get me going with talk of golden showers. I love the taste of iron
> in
> the morning.
I can tell.
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| MS#1Fanboy-JoJo 2005-10-31, 11:38 pm |
| In article <4366a64b$0$264$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>,
nothanks@toocoolforschool.com says...
quote:
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>"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote
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>FOR SURE???? Having the Democrats rally around such a nutcase tends to
>polerize fence sitters. People don't like idiots telling them what to
>think.
>
Most people don't need her to realize that Bush was full of BS with this Iraq
thing. Most of those fence sitters don't see a nutcase but they do see a woman
who lost her son in Iraq and has every reason to try and stop the bleeding.
quote:
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>Oh, no doubt... but please, do stay on topic. One was willfully perjuring
>to deny Paula Jones due process after he sexually harassed her. Libby, et
>al, talked about a CIA employee that many people already knew was a CIA
>employee that hadn't been undercover in a foreign land for an awfully long
>time.
>
>Basically, one was a crime, perjury, the other wasn't a crime. There's no
>indictment of a crime commited in the Plame case in relation to her "cover"
>because there wasn't a crime commited. No one's even pretending there was
>one except for the Pink-Os that can't handle the fact that they can't push
>their fascist agenda with elections.
>
The courts will decide that. Sorry Fred.
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>lol. You are ignorant. Plame wasn't in any danger and people knew she was
>CIA.
>
Like I said.. two different apples. If you can't understand the difference
between getting a piece of XXX and outing a CIA officer then the ignorance is
on your part.
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>More ignorance. It was about Paula Jones, not Monica. Keep up.
>
It was about getting a piece of XXX. Nothing more nothing less. Thats why
nothing happened to Bill. Who is ignorant?
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>What? Your statement is simply not true. You don't seem to recognize the
>enforcement of the no fly zone was a huge safety risk. And as far as "our
>country" proper, it's dropped. There's been less attacks on the US than
>before taking out Saddam.
>
Tell the 2000 soldiers that have died that it was a huge safety risk. The jury
is out on attacks on the US however we never have been exactly a hotbed of
attacks.
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>Nice soundbite... no evidence.
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2000 dead soldiers is plenty of evidence. Please keep showing your ignorance.
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>I can tell.
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At least I don't pay for it.
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