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2004 Reflections that Solon.com didn't publish
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| Christopher Martin 2005-01-20, 12:45 am |
| Gamespot apparently managed to get ahold of the comments about 2004 that
weren't published when a few game insiders gave interviews to Salon.com.
Here's the article:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/0...ws_6116249.html
The columnist who's quoted on here as saying JFK: Reloaded is one of his
top 5 games of 2004 needs to be seen by a psychologist...quickly. The man's
not only deluded into thinking it's a good game (it lasts a grand total of 1
minute from what I've read!) but very, very badly disturbed.
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| Doug Jacobs 2005-01-21, 12:45 am |
| Christopher Martin <cjmartin04@verizon.net> wrote:
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> The columnist who's quoted on here as saying JFK: Reloaded is one of his
> top 5 games of 2004 needs to be seen by a psychologist...quickly. The man's
> not only deluded into thinking it's a good game (it lasts a grand total of 1
> minute from what I've read!) but very, very badly disturbed.
You're expecting Salon.com columnists to know something about games?
That's like asking the folks at the new Tech TV to discuss foreign policy...
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| Christopher Martin 2005-01-21, 12:45 am |
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"Doug Jacobs" <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
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> Christopher Martin <cjmartin04@verizon.net> wrote:
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> You're expecting Salon.com columnists to know something about games?
> That's like asking the folks at the new Tech TV to discuss foreign
> policy...
LMAO....Point taken.  But my point wasn't about the game itself
really, it's that to like a game where the whole idea is to recreate the
assassination of JFK is well, really really disturbed. A game that offers
money to somebody that can recreate the magic bullet theory faithfully is
just sick. (The developers of the game have offered money to any gamer that
can use their game to prove the single shooter magic bullet theory offered
by the Warren Commission can be done.)
At least in most games when you're shooting people who have really
existed they're truly evil people like Saddam or Osama Bin Laden, etc. and I
can only think of one game where Osama's appeared and I don't think Saddam's
ever been in one. I don't even think there are any WW II games where an
objective is to assassinate Hitler or another member of the Nazi leadership.
(Although give the guys at MOH a minute...that'll be in their next likely
clunker "Dogs of War"...and not a necessarily bad idea either, lol.)
IMO, liking a game like JFK: Reloaded is worse than the idiot who wrote
into a game mag last month asking when developers were going to produce WW
II games that allowed you to play as a German soldier. The mag appropriately
responded it was a truly horrific idea and very likely never going to see
the light of day from a major publisher. If I tried to play a game where I
had to be a German WW II soldier I think I'd have to shower for a week
straight afterwards.
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| Doug Jacobs 2005-01-21, 5:45 pm |
| Christopher Martin <cjmartin04@verizon.net> wrote:
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> LMAO....Point taken. But my point wasn't about the game itself
> really, it's that to like a game where the whole idea is to recreate the
> assassination of JFK is well, really really disturbed. A game that offers
> money to somebody that can recreate the magic bullet theory faithfully is
> just sick. (The developers of the game have offered money to any gamer that
> can use their game to prove the single shooter magic bullet theory offered
> by the Warren Commission can be done.)
Hm. Nifty. The Conspiracy Construction Kit. The world needs more
Construction Kits...though, I don't know about this one ;)
quote:
> At least in most games when you're shooting people who have really
> existed they're truly evil people like Saddam or Osama Bin Laden, etc. and I
> can only think of one game where Osama's appeared and I don't think Saddam's
> ever been in one. I don't even think there are any WW II games where an
> objective is to assassinate Hitler or another member of the Nazi leadership.
> (Although give the guys at MOH a minute...that'll be in their next likely
> clunker "Dogs of War"...and not a necessarily bad idea either, lol.)
Saddam, at least as a parody, has shown up in a few games. There was a
quick & dirty Mac freeware/political statement toy that let you blow up
tanks while avoiding oilfields. Supposedly, the game had Saddam cussing
at you if you did well enough. Then of course, there's that arcade game
from Midway's 2nd collection, Total Carnage. In that game, you're a
Rambo-like character who invades a small country run by an insane dictator
who keeps yelling things like "we are peaceful people!" and "hey! that's a
milk factory!" You even get to blow the guy up at the end.
quote:
> IMO, liking a game like JFK: Reloaded is worse than the idiot who wrote
> into a game mag last month asking when developers were going to produce WW
> II games that allowed you to play as a German soldier. The mag appropriately
> responded it was a truly horrific idea and very likely never going to see
> the light of day from a major publisher. If I tried to play a game where I
> had to be a German WW II soldier I think I'd have to shower for a week
> straight afterwards.
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| General Protection Fault 2005-01-21, 5:45 pm |
| On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:19:38 -0000, Doug Jacobs wrote:
quote:
> Saddam, at least as a parody, has shown up in a few games. There was a
> quick & dirty Mac freeware/political statement toy that let you blow up
> tanks while avoiding oilfields. Supposedly, the game had Saddam cussing
> at you if you did well enough. Then of course, there's that arcade game
> from Midway's 2nd collection, Total Carnage. In that game, you're a
> Rambo-like character who invades a small country run by an insane dictator
> who keeps yelling things like "we are peaceful people!" and "hey! that's a
> milk factory!" You even get to blow the guy up at the end.
This one always cracks me up:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/...ter/review.html
"If you think a street fight against Osama Bin Laden sounds like a good
time, Fugitive Hunter is your game."
"There's just not much you can say in Fugitive Hunter's defense. It's a short
game with bland mechanics, repetitive levels, and almost zero replay value,
and that's not even taking into account the total absurdity of getting into
a fistfight with Osama Bin Laden. "
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| Christopher Martin 2005-01-22, 12:45 am |
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"General Protection Fault" <generalpf@braids.ertw.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> This one always cracks me up:
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> http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/...ter/review.html
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> "If you think a street fight against Osama Bin Laden sounds like a good
> time, Fugitive Hunter is your game."
>
> "There's just not much you can say in Fugitive Hunter's defense. It's a
> short
> game with bland mechanics, repetitive levels, and almost zero replay
> value,
> and that's not even taking into account the total absurdity of getting
> into
> a fistfight with Osama Bin Laden. "
A year or so after Sept. 11th, I was actually looking forward to a
realistic anti-terror game where you could actually fight Al Quida and
eventually get to kill Osama in a battle in Afghanistan or Pakistan. When I
saw this game, I was midly interested...until I read about it. A game which
included an objective like Splinter Cell where you've got to kill a
terrorist leader up close by sneaking into his camp, or SOCOM where you'd
have to assasinate a terrorist leader from long range would make some sense
having the terrorist leader as Osama...or even a GR game where the objective
was anti-terror instead of North Korea. However, whoever thought that having
Osama doing karate/kung-fu moves was a good idea has been watching WAYYYYY
too many bad 60's American kung-fu movies.
It's kinda sad really that the publisher figured all they had to do was
make a game where you got to fight Osama and it would sell regardless of how
stupid the game's plot was (or even if it had one) and regardless of how
stupid the fight with Osama turned out to be. I mean if we ever catch him,
somehow I'm thinking our Delta Force/US Army Ranger guys aren't going to be
karate chopping the man when they're dragging him out of whatever hole he's
in. ;)
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| Gooserider 2005-01-24, 11:38 am |
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"Christopher Martin" <cjmartin04@verizon.net> wrote in message
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quote:
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> "Doug Jacobs" <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
> news:10v0k7jh5sg8c24@corp.supernews.com...
of[vbcol=seagreen]
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> LMAO....Point taken. But my point wasn't about the game itself
> really, it's that to like a game where the whole idea is to recreate the
> assassination of JFK is well, really really disturbed. A game that offers
> money to somebody that can recreate the magic bullet theory faithfully is
> just sick. (The developers of the game have offered money to any gamer
that
quote:
> can use their game to prove the single shooter magic bullet theory offered
> by the Warren Commission can be done.)
> At least in most games when you're shooting people who have really
> existed they're truly evil people like Saddam or Osama Bin Laden, etc. and
I
quote:
> can only think of one game where Osama's appeared and I don't think
Saddam's
quote:
> ever been in one. I don't even think there are any WW II games where an
> objective is to assassinate Hitler or another member of the Nazi
leadership.
quote:
> (Although give the guys at MOH a minute...that'll be in their next likely
> clunker "Dogs of War"...and not a necessarily bad idea either, lol.)
> IMO, liking a game like JFK: Reloaded is worse than the idiot who
wrote
quote:
> into a game mag last month asking when developers were going to produce WW
> II games that allowed you to play as a German soldier. The mag
appropriately
quote:
> responded it was a truly horrific idea and very likely never going to see
> the light of day from a major publisher. If I tried to play a game where I
> had to be a German WW II soldier I think I'd have to shower for a week
> straight afterwards.
>
The average German soldier was no different than the average American
soldier. A grunt is a grunt is a grunt. Now if you were talking about SS or
concentration camp guards, OK.
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| Doug Jacobs 2005-01-24, 5:46 pm |
| Christopher Martin <cjmartin04@verizon.net> wrote:
quote:
> It's kinda sad really that the publisher figured all they had to do was
> make a game where you got to fight Osama and it would sell regardless of how
> stupid the game's plot was (or even if it had one) and regardless of how
> stupid the fight with Osama turned out to be. I mean if we ever catch him,
> somehow I'm thinking our Delta Force/US Army Ranger guys aren't going to be
> karate chopping the man when they're dragging him out of whatever hole he's
> in. ;)
My idea for an "anti-terroism" game: The Bin Laden Desktop Toy.
Nothing more than a simple picture of Bin Laden's face - doesn't even need
to be photo-realistic, in fact, the more cartooney, the better. When you
move your mouse inside the window, it becomes a boxing glove. Clicking
your mouse anywhere inside the window will result in the sound of someone
being punched, and Bin Laden will say something like "ouch!" or something
about a camel, in a voice more befitting Apu from the Simpsons, because as
far as most Americans are concerned, that's really what Arabs sound like.
Oh yes, and for the deluxe version, if you click the mouse near Bin Laden's
eyes, you'll give him a black eye or break his nose.
Box it up, and sell it at Wallmart for $19.95 ($29.95 for the deluxe
version), and I'll be rich.
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