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Sega bringing classics to PS2 (U.S. 3D Ages)
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| Scott H 2004-10-23, 5:45 pm |
| "Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com> wrote in message news:<IoednSz2p8lWnO_cRVn-1w@comcast.com>...
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> http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/1...ws_6110353.html
> Sega bringing classics to PS2
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> Sega Classics Collection, containing 10 remakes of classic arcade and
> console titles, will hit in January.
> At an otherwise uneventful press event held yesterday in San Francisco, Sega
> announced that it will publish Sega Classics Collection in the US. Due in
> January 2005 for the PlayStation 2, the title will contain remade versions
> of 10 of Sega's classic arcade and console games: Outrun, Golden Axe, Space
> Harrier, Columns, Fantasy Zone, Virtua Racer, Decathlete, Alien Syndrome,
> Monaco GP, and Bonanza Bros. & Tant R.
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> The collection was originally under the auspices of publisher Conspiracy
> Entertainment. In February 2005, Conspiracy is scheduled to release Sega
> Ages: Phantasy Star Trilogy, with remade versions of the Phantasy Star I,
> II, and IV role-playing games that were originally released on Sega's Master
> System and Genesis consoles.
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> In Japan, the games were released individually as part of the Sega Ages
> collection at 2,500 yen ($23) each. While a price point for Sega Classics
> Collection has not yet been determined, Phantasy Star Trilogy will retail
> for $19.99.
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> 10 of these Sega 3D Ages games for $19.99 ~ $29.99 is a STEAL. heck, I'd
> even pay full price $49.99 for this, so $19.99 is just incredible. better
> yet, Phantasy Star Trilogy, which is sure to be the better collection, will
> be $19.99. leading me to believe the Classic Collection of ten 3D Ages games
> will be priced similarly. $40~50 for 13 games really is a steal. yeah,
> many of the 3D Ages games are at best, decent, while some are downright bad
> (Golden Axe)... but still a great deal.
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I don't know what makes me happier, that they're comming out at all,
that they're coming out on 2 discs at a lower than full retail price,
or that they're coming out in Jan-Feb so I can get the new games I
want this season and not miss out on anything in the slow season. ;)
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| benstylus 2004-10-25, 12:45 am |
| Eiji Hayashi wrote:
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> deadmaker7@yahoo.com (Dan Allen) wrote in message news:<641eabaa.0410171417.4c88d3ef@posting.google.com>...
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> They are.. not as a Sega Ages title but as a full new game.
Well, the Shining Force remake was done - but it is on the GBA not the PS2.
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"benstylus" <blacklion@juno.com> wrote in message
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> Well, the Shining Force remake was done - but it is on the GBA not the
PS2.
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| Scott H 2004-10-25, 6:45 am |
| Eiji Hayashi wrote:
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> weaponx013@yahoo.com (Scott H) wrote in message news:<7fd53a09.0410170447.65c4146e@posting.google.com>...
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> I know what DOESN'T make you happy Scott. The fact that they're coming
> out for your most hated console. But don't fret, having played most of
> them I'll tell you right now that alot of them aren't very good
> anyways. So I'm sure we'll soon be hearing from you how the PS2 messed
> up Sega's old classic games, and BTW.. don't even try and suggest that
> the Saturn version of VF2 is better than the Sega Ages one, its not, I
> have both versions.
You need to get over whatever fetish you have for dogging me Eiji.
I've not insulted you, and our differences, to the extreme that you make
them out of to be, are only in your mind.
Just to clarify, I think that the public could have and should have
supported Sega for the quality of their efforts. I do not think that
either Sega or Sony should be dominating the market for anything they've
done, past or present. Insisting that I am lying in every single post
I've ever posted, and in every single page on my website, that I
actually wish that Sega were grand ruler of the videogame industry is
delusional at best. Your accusations are only making you look bad.
By the way, thanks for the Berserk review, I'll be looking forward to it
hitting Stateside.
Scott
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"and BTW.. don't even try and suggest that
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> the Saturn version of VF2 is better than the Sega Ages one, its not, I
> have both versions."
I have no doubt whatsoever that the PS2 Sega 3D Ages VF2 absolutely
slaughters the Saturn VF2. It's just too bad that the PS2 VF2 looks
noticable worse than the arcade, especially in textures. I blame AM2 for
this not the PS2 hardware since even the texture-poor PS2 can do better than
that.
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| Scott H 2004-10-26, 6:45 am |
| Xenon wrote:
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> "and BTW.. don't even try and suggest that
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> I have no doubt whatsoever that the PS2 Sega 3D Ages VF2 absolutely
> slaughters the Saturn VF2. It's just too bad that the PS2 VF2 looks
> noticable worse than the arcade, especially in textures. I blame AM2 for
> this not the PS2 hardware since even the texture-poor PS2 can do better than
> that.
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The pictures I see, aside from some of the misalignments, look more
like texture filtering was enabled than they indicate that textures were
actually scaled down in any way. What I mean is that if bi-linear
filtering was enabled (I'm pretty sure VF2 arcade didn't anyway), it
would make the textures look lower resolution unless they were actually
*up* sampled. Hopefully somebody will get off their butt and finish a
Model 2 Emulator, so I can put up a comparison page when VF2 PS2 comes
out Stateside.
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| Eiji Hayashi 2004-10-26, 5:45 pm |
| Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<uzadd.59$qr.29@trnddc05>...
quote:
> Eiji Hayashi wrote:
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> You need to get over whatever fetish you have for dogging me Eiji.
> I've not insulted you, and our differences, to the extreme that you make
> them out of to be, are only in your mind.
I'll get over it when you demonstrated even a smidge of
open-mindedness by atleast trying out, without pre-judgement, a small
fraction of the many many games that I and others have recommended to
you over the years instead of just SAYING "yeah.. that sounds
interesting", and going on with posting ridiculously biased and untrue
statements like PS2 doesn't have any innovative and original titles
when for example, I've told you about Katamari Damashi as one of the
most innovative titles of this generation if not the last couple of
generations, months before it came out.
I'll get over it, when you stop making obviously fanboyish comparisons
such as Air Force Delta is just as good as Ace Combat and Tokyo
Extreme Racer is just as good as Gran Tourismo, and SoA and Grandia
are just as good as any FF games.
I'll get over it, when you stop saying popular games are crap, and
somehow thinks games sales is inversely proportional with game
quality.
I'll get over it, when you stop making apologies for Sega consoles and
games on Sega consoles while at the same time short changing
everything on the Sony consoles.
I'll get over it.. when you've taken down that ridiculous web site,
and stop portraying Sony as the evil empire.
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> Just to clarify, I think that the public could have and should have
> supported Sega for the quality of their efforts. I do not think that
> either Sega or Sony should be dominating the market for anything they've
> done, past or present. Insisting that I am lying in every single post
> I've ever posted, and in every single page on my website, that I
> actually wish that Sega were grand ruler of the videogame industry is
> delusional at best. Your accusations are only making you look bad.
I think the existence of that web site proves beyond a shadow of a
doubt who is the one that looks bad
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> By the way, thanks for the Berserk review, I'll be looking forward to it
> hitting Stateside.
My Sega game reviews are meant for Sega fans that have moved on from
Sega consoles and is looking at what new title Sega is bringing to the
new generation. It's not for people that are stuck in the past and
thinks that the end of the DC was the end of good gaming or end of
Sega.
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"Eiji Hayashi" <linm@mcmaster.ca> wrote in message
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> Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'll get over it when you demonstrated even a smidge of
> open-mindedness by atleast trying out, without pre-judgement, a small
> fraction of the many many games that I and others have recommended to
> you over the years instead of just SAYING "yeah.. that sounds
> interesting", and going on with posting ridiculously biased and untrue
> statements like PS2 doesn't have any innovative and original titles
> when for example, I've told you about Katamari Damashi as one of the
> most innovative titles of this generation if not the last couple of
> generations, months before it came out.
>
> I'll get over it, when you stop making obviously fanboyish comparisons
> such as Air Force Delta is just as good as Ace Combat and Tokyo
> Extreme Racer is just as good as Gran Tourismo, and SoA and Grandia
> are just as good as any FF games.
>
> I'll get over it, when you stop saying popular games are crap, and
> somehow thinks games sales is inversely proportional with game
> quality.
SNIP
Man, why don't you grow up? We're talking about VIDEO GAMES. Its not like
he spit on one of your family members' graves. For crying out loud, go out
and get a girlfriend, and stop getting bent out of shape over something as
stupid as this.
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| Joe Ottoson 2004-10-27, 12:45 am |
| linm@mcmaster.ca (Eiji Hayashi) wrote in
news:7666a450.0410200408.39f859b4@posting.google.com:
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> Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<uzadd.59$qr.29@trnddc05>...
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> I'll get over it when you demonstrated even a smidge of
> open-mindedness by atleast trying out, without pre-judgement, a small
> fraction of the many many games that I and others have recommended to
> you over the years instead of just SAYING "yeah.. that sounds
> interesting", and going on with posting ridiculously biased and untrue
> statements like PS2 doesn't have any innovative and original titles
> when for example, I've told you about Katamari Damashi as one of the
> most innovative titles of this generation if not the last couple of
> generations, months before it came out.
This from someone who claims that online play's bad for fighting games..
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> I'll get over it, when you stop making obviously fanboyish comparisons
> such as Air Force Delta is just as good as Ace Combat and Tokyo
> Extreme Racer is just as good as Gran Tourismo, and SoA and Grandia
> are just as good as any FF games.
AFD's underrated. Don't care about GT, SoA is an incredibly well made
RPG. Old schoolish, but it does everything very well. Storyline's about
on par with FF7 etc, so I can't really see why someone would want
someone else to admit that it's inferior. Grandia's not everyone's bag,
bit it is a good RPG series in its own right.
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> I'll get over it, when you stop making apologies for Sega consoles and
> games on Sega consoles while at the same time short changing
> everything on the Sony consoles.
You've never really had to apoligize for Sega's games.
quote:
> My Sega game reviews are meant for Sega fans that have moved on from
> Sega consoles and is looking at what new title Sega is bringing to the
> new generation. It's not for people that are stuck in the past and
> thinks that the end of the DC was the end of good gaming or end of
> Sega.
>
That's just stupid.
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| Scott H 2004-10-27, 12:45 am |
| Eiji Hayashi wrote:
quote:
> Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<uzadd.59$qr.29@trnddc05>...
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> I'll get over it when you demonstrated even a smidge of
> open-mindedness by atleast trying out, without pre-judgement, a small
> fraction of the many many games that I and others have recommended to
> you over the years instead of just SAYING "yeah.. that sounds
> interesting", and going on with posting ridiculously biased and untrue
> statements like PS2 doesn't have any innovative and original titles
> when for example, I've told you about Katamari Damashi as one of the
> most innovative titles of this generation if not the last couple of
> generations, months before it came out.
I've never said this, you blew what I said way out of proportion, and
took it out of context.
quote:
> I'll get over it, when you stop making obviously fanboyish comparisons
> such as Air Force Delta is just as good as Ace Combat and Tokyo
> Extreme Racer is just as good as Gran Tourismo, and SoA and Grandia
> are just as good as any FF games.
I never said that AFD was just as good, I said it was good in its own
right, AC4 wasn't even out at its release, and there's noting
intrinsically wrong with its gameplay. SoA and Grandia are *at least*
just as good as any FF game though. As for TXR and GT, I don't recall
ever making a comparison of those two, they seem like totally different
games to me besides. At best you might find me remarking about the
graphics, or the physics and AI, of each in relation to the other, but
it cannot be said that one is "better" than the other, because they are
virtually nothing alike.
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> I'll get over it, when you stop saying popular games are crap, and
> somehow thinks games sales is inversely proportional with game
> quality.
Here again you've twisted my words. I said that lack popularity does
not determine a game's actual quality, at_all. I have not said that a
game being popular automatically causes it to be a bad game, in my site
or otherwise. These are contradictory statements.
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> I'll get over it, when you stop making apologies for Sega consoles and
> games on Sega consoles while at the same time short changing
> everything on the Sony consoles.
Hah, by listing the capabilities and games of the Sega consoles I'm
making apologies? By listing the specs and games for the Sony consoles,
I'm short changing them? You have absolutely no reason to believe that,
and way to support it. My motives, posted for all to see, were to make
the comparison, first and foremost, because few web pages do so.
Secondly, I want to show the facts that I know that have caused me to
enjoy the Sega consoles just as much as you and yours enjoy your Sony
consoles. Why this explodes into the chaos of doubt and fear in your
mind, I don't know.
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> I'll get over it.. when you've taken down that ridiculous web site,
> and stop portraying Sony as the evil empire.
Not going to happen, except the later part never did. ;)
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> I think the existence of that web site proves beyond a shadow of a
> doubt who is the one that looks bad
Anybody who continues to insist that the Sony consoles dominate, solely
because of their utterly superior performance in all respects?
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> My Sega game reviews are meant for Sega fans that have moved on from
> Sega consoles and is looking at what new title Sega is bringing to the
> new generation. It's not for people that are stuck in the past and
> thinks that the end of the DC was the end of good gaming or end of
> Sega.
You should really listen to yourself and think long and hard about the
meaning of the word bias, which you like to throw around so much. Then,
and only then, will you realize you've done nothing but blow anything
and everything I've said on Usenet and my webpage *way* out of proportion.
I freely admit to preferring the Sega of old over the pale shadow they
are today (Berserk isn't even made by them). I'll also freely admit
that I preferred each and every Sega console to the competing consoles,
for varied and multiple reasons, all of which are posted on my site. I
do not say that those competing consoles are bad in any way, even when
I'm pointing out a questional practice of the manufacturer or the press.
Go on, find on my web page where I say that, it isn't there.
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| Eiji Hayashi 2004-10-27, 12:45 am |
| Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<BvBdd.1332$qr.801@trnddc05>...
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> I've never said this, you blew what I said way out of proportion, and
> took it out of context.
No. I'm just exposing what you've been saying over and over for many
many years. You don't like to admit it but that's exactly what you
think.
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> I never said that AFD was just as good, I said it was good in its own
> right, AC4 wasn't even out at its release, and there's noting
> intrinsically wrong with its gameplay. SoA and Grandia are *at least*
> just as good as any FF game though. As for TXR and GT, I don't recall
As I suspected.. you havn't changed one bit
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> ever making a comparison of those two, they seem like totally different
> games to me besides. At best you might find me remarking about the
> graphics, or the physics and AI, of each in relation to the other, but
> it cannot be said that one is "better" than the other, because they are
> virtually nothing alike.
TXR is a fine series, and I've bet I've played more of them than you
have, but to suggest any part of it is equivalent or even better than
GT is a gross exageration that only biased fanboys will make
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> Here again you've twisted my words. I said that lack popularity does
> not determine a game's actual quality, at_all. I have not said that a
> game being popular automatically causes it to be a bad game, in my site
> or otherwise. These are contradictory statements.
Not as it appears, where you're concerned. We've been through this,
and your dislike for popular games, just because of the fact that
they're popular is well documented.
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> Hah, by listing the capabilities and games of the Sega consoles I'm
> making apologies? By listing the specs and games for the Sony consoles,
> I'm short changing them? You have absolutely no reason to believe that,
> and way to support it. My motives, posted for all to see, were to make
> the comparison, first and foremost, because few web pages do so.
> Secondly, I want to show the facts that I know that have caused me to
> enjoy the Sega consoles just as much as you and yours enjoy your Sony
> consoles. Why this explodes into the chaos of doubt and fear in your
> mind, I don't know.
Right.. I suppose if I opened a web site listing the technical
specifications of a CD compare to vinyl I'm just doing it for
informational purpose huh? I'm not trying to say which is better one
way or another? There is nothing wrong with data. Its how data is put
together to create a suggestion or conclusion that is the important
thing, and in your case we all know what you're trying to suggest, and
what conclusion you would like people to draw.
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> Not going to happen, except the later part never did. ;)
well then.. I must respectfully decline to stop dogging you
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> Anybody who continues to insist that the Sony consoles dominate, solely
> because of their utterly superior performance in all respects?
Nobody will deny that a Sony console dominate the market currently.
You'll have to find a true fanboy with a slight case of mental illness
for that. However, it would take somebody equally daft to suggest that
they're doing it because of "superior performance". So I don't know
what you're trying to say here exactly, other than to somehow deflect
attention from the fact that you're far more nuts as demonstrated by
the existance of that web site.
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> You should really listen to yourself and think long and hard about the
> meaning of the word bias, which you like to throw around so much. Then,
see.. I understand it very well, but I'm convinced you don't have a
clue because you live with it all the time, its part of nature for
you.
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> and only then, will you realize you've done nothing but blow anything
> and everything I've said on Usenet and my webpage *way* out of proportion.
> I freely admit to preferring the Sega of old over the pale shadow they
> are today (Berserk isn't even made by them). I'll also freely admit
Actually it came out after the merger, so it is by them.
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> that I preferred each and every Sega console to the competing consoles,
> for varied and multiple reasons, all of which are posted on my site. I
thnks for admitting that
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> do not say that those competing consoles are bad in any way, even when
> I'm pointing out a questional practice of the manufacturer or the press.
> Go on, find on my web page where I say that, it isn't there.
You do not say bad things about competiting consoles? really? Here..
let me see
1) DC game a) has great looking graphics, unlike its PS2 equivalent b)
2) The DC has so many innovative games.. list a,b,c,d,e,f, whereas
there is no such titles on the PS2
3) Sega game a) (with a gameranking score of 60), is just as good as
its PS2 equivalent (with a gameranking score of 80)
sounds familiar? these are just some of the many "unbiased"
comparisons you made over the years. Now let's multiple that by 365
days in the year for oh.. say about 3 years since the DC's death.
Hmm.. does anybody see a pattern here? I suppose these comparative
statements isn't your idea of saying "anything bad about a console".
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