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> Xenon wrote:
>
> Man, Capcom is lame. They shouldn't have made the deal in the first
> place if they didn't feel it was a good idea. Now to go back on it....

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>Xenon wrote:
>
>Man, Capcom is lame. They shouldn't have made the deal in the first
>place if they didn't feel it was a good idea. Now to go back on it....

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> more:
> http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/1...ws_6111911.html
>
> Resident Evil 4 coming to PS2
>
> Formerly GameCube-exclusive entry in Capcom's survival horror series will
> appear on PlayStation 2 in 2005.
> Capcom announced today that the long-awaited follow-up to its popular
> survival horror franchise, originally planned to appear only on the

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> console, is also headed to Sony's PlayStation2.
>
> The PS2 version of Resident Evil 4 is currently slated to be released at

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> end of 2005 in Japan, the US, and Europe. The GameCube version is still
> scheduled for a January 2005 release in the US and Japan, followed by a
> spring release in Europe.
>
> In a statement released today, Capcom said that the decision to make
> Resident Evil 4 go cross-platform was based on requests from fans

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> market considerations, and shareholder requests. The statement made

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> of the fact that each version of the game will be developed to take
> advantage of the strengths of the respective platform.
>
> In September 2001, Capcom held a press conference in Tokyo to announce

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> the Resident Evil series would thereafter be released exclusively for the
> Nintendo GameCube. Capcom first produced a visually overhauled remake of

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> very first Resident Evil title, which was originally released for the
> PlayStation in the mid '90s, and followed suit with a brand-new prequel
> called Resident Evil 0 and ports of Resident Evil 2, 3, and Code:

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>
> But as soon as the deal was cemented between Capcom and Nintendo, cracks
> started to appear. Early in 2002, Capcom announced that an online Resident
> Evil title, Resident Evil: Outbreak, was exclusively headed to the
> PlayStation 2. Later that year, the publisher seemed to reaffirm its
> relationship with Nintendo when it announced four more GameCube-exclusive
> games alongside Resident Evil 4. Then one of them, Dead Phoenix, was
> canceled, and PS2 versions of two of the other games, Viewtiful Joe and
> Killer 7, were subsequently announced. Nevertheless, if Capcom sticks to

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> current release plan, Resident Evil 4 will remain exclusive to the

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> hardware for roughly one year.
>
>
>
>
>

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> no longer is Resident Evil 4 a GameCube exclusive.
> English
> http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/...f_e041101_1.gif

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> Eiji Hayashi wrote:
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>
> Actually, whilst i agree there are some great games on the PS2 which
> make it worth owning the PS2 whooped the dreamcast for instance BEFORE
> any of those games were released, & it was a sucess before there were
> that many good games on it, so yes i would say marketing is one of the
> main reasons why the ps2 is so popular.
>
>
> So many people think that the ps2 IS the best games console out there.
>
> Now whilst it may be true for some people, depending on their taste in
> games, this may well be the case, but for others its simply becasue they
> have no idea what is really out for the gamecube

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> Don't expect the game til early 2006, no way this developer with its past
> history can port a game like this that fast. And you have to realise that
> its won't be as good as the GC version. I can see it having framerate
> troubles, lower grade grapchis, possible troubles with it being a port.

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> of course, why wait over a year to play it?
>
> I just don't get it, why not just port it to the PS3 as a launch title, at
> least then the game would have some justice.

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> if graphics mattered, game like Zelda WW and the GTA series, wouldn't have
> sold so well.

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> no longer is Resident Evil 4 a GameCube exclusive.
>
> http://www.gamefront.de/
>
> Japanese
> http://img101.exs.cx/img101/7295/yo...thisfromGAF.gif
>
> English
> http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/...f_e041101_1.gif

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> "Ice Wipe Inc." <birdworm12@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5_ohd.6712$K7.6309@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>
> And
>
>
>
> gameplay is all that matters to most people.

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> dementia wrote:
past[vbcol=seagreen]
that[vbcol=seagreen]
at[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Not sure I agree with that.

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> Don't expect the game til early 2006, no way this developer with its past
> history can port a game like this that fast. And you have to realise that
> its won't be as good as the GC version. I can see it having framerate
> troubles, lower grade grapchis, possible troubles with it being a port.

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> of course, why wait over a year to play it?
>
> I just don't get it, why not just port it to the PS3 as a launch title, at
> least then the game would have some justice.

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>I seriously doubt the PS2 hardware could run RE4, that's why Capcom picked
> the GC. No way they could reproduce it with taking another 2 years, and
> seeing as the PS3 is around the corner...
>
> "Xenon" <xenonxbox2@xboxnext.com> wrote in message
> news:18adnYOBdZSpXRjcRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> GameCube
> the
> worldwide,
> mention
> that
> the
> Veronica.
> the
> GameCube
>
>

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> dementia wrote:
port.[vbcol=seagreen]
title,[vbcol=seagreen]
there[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I'm not sure I agree that 'most people' only care about gameplay. I
> think graphics are still highly prized, and if the graphics aren't good
> enough, then a lot of people will say the game sucks.

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> "John Salerno" <johnjsal@NOSPAMrcn.com> wrote in message
> news:wcadnYkaou7uOhvcRVn-pQ@rcn.net...
>
>
> port.
>
>
> title,
>
>
> there
>
>
>
> Explain to me how the gameboy does so well then
>
>

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> If it can't, why Capcom making it for the PS2?
>

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> The GBA isn't about graphics at all, the point of the system is that its
> PORTABLE. The gameplay is the most important thing on the GBA, with
> grapchis coming a distance second. It doesn't matter if a GBA game uses a
> cool 3D engine, if the game is boring no one will buy it once the hype
> settles.
>

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> Ice Wipe Inc. wrote:
>
>
> i would say that gameplay is the most important thing on any system for
> any game...
>
> unfortunately in this largely cosmetic world appearance sells, and so
> graphics help to generate sales...

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> The GBA isn't about graphics at all, the point of the system is that its
> PORTABLE. The gameplay is the most important thing on the GBA, with
> grapchis coming a distance second. It doesn't matter if a GBA game uses a
> cool 3D engine, if the game is boring no one will buy it once the hype
> settles.

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> Jimmery wrote:
>
>
>
> ------------------------
>
> but, on the other hand, take 2 systems, 1 can handle the game with
> better visuals, is cheaper & is out earlier.
>
>
> the other has to (i expect, lets face it we dont know for certain) have
> it cut down slightly, is out 12 months later & costs more, but has the
> "cooler", better marketed brand name.
>
> which sells more copies....... the latter of course, go figure..... :/
>
> I think the marketing of the ps2 is superb, hats off to sony, they have
> managed to not only win the console war, but have practically destroyed
> the opposition - & killed off the Sega DC completely, & yet for the most
> part the ps2 is (imo - others feel free to disagree) the inferior
> console to both the GC & the xbox.
>

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> Basically, for most gamers, graphics matter a lot. Other than that, you
> can easily quote statistics to support whatever point you want, like you
> are doing.

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> Eiji Hayashi wrote:
>
> Actually, whilst i agree there are some great games on the PS2 which
> make it worth owning the PS2 whooped the dreamcast for instance BEFORE
> any of those games were released, & it was a sucess before there were
> that many good games on it, so yes i would say marketing is one of the
> main reasons why the ps2 is so popular.

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> So many people think that the ps2 IS the best games console out there.

quote:

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> Now whilst it may be true for some people, depending on their taste in
> games, this may well be the case, but for others its simply becasue they
> have no idea what is really out for the gamecube or the xbox.

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> Many people just think the Gamecube is for kids, & the xbox is a PC with
> only PC style games, & that the PS2 is the most powerful console out of
> the bunch. Clearly that is just superior brand awarness of the ps2.

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> "John Salerno" <johnjsal@NOSPAMrcn.com> wrote in message
> news:_OednRfdpJdtbxvcRVn-sw@rcn.net...
>
>
> realise
>
>
> framerate
>
>
>
> Ok, explain to me why Pokemon games have the highest sales of GBA games when
> the graphics are just "OK"
> I'm sorry JS but your reasoning just doesn't hold up. I know some people
> really care about graphics but it's the gameplay that makes the game worth
> the coin, even my 11 year old knows that.
>
>

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>
> They make games for the GameCube?
> I checked EB games coming soon list back in Sept to see what was coming out
> for all the systems.
> From sept thru Jan 31st for both the XBox and PS2 the list was a dozen+
> pages long, for the Cube it was only 3 pages. The GameCube needs more
> support! The PS2 is number 1 because it has that support and a ton of great
> games to play!
>
>

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>
> I'm not one of those ppl, my cousin owns a GC and I have five friends
> that own XBOX so I'm fairly aware of what each has to offer
>

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>
> I certainly see how brand awareness can enhence the positive
> perception of a particular console, but I don't see how it will
> negatively affect the perception of other consoles

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>
>
> & it is the best supported becasue it has the highest sales, which imo
> is because its the best marketed & has the "cooler" image. (its a big
> circle - there is a song about a hole & a bucket which springs to mind!)
>
> image is everything, just look at the people who want a new ps two or
> what ever its called just becasue it looks cooler.
>
>
> all this is just imo & am not trying to start an argument, just a
> discussion ;)
>
> Christ imo the proof in the pudding is that the original ps1 continued
> to outself the Sega DC even when it cost peanuts, & had some of the best
> arcade games on it ever. just goes to show if you can get brand awarness
> you have won half the battle already.
>
>
> i think sony will have to work harder with the PS3 tho, i am genuinely
> interested to see what happens in an Xbox 2 vs PS3 battle.
>
> its all great for the consumer tho, the worst that could happen would be
> a monopoly on any console.
>

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> "John Salerno" <johnjsal@NOSPAMrcn.com> wrote in message
> news:wcadnYkaou7uOhvcRVn-pQ@rcn.net...
>
>
> port.
>
>
> title,
>
>
> there
>
>
>
> Explain to me how the gameboy does so well then
>
>

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> If it can't, why Capcom making it for the PS2?
>

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> I seriously doubt the PS2 hardware could run RE4, that's why Capcom picked
> the GC. No way they could reproduce it with taking another 2 years, and
> seeing as the PS3 is around the corner...

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> dementia wrote:
realise[vbcol=seagreen]
framerate[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I'm talking about the console systems. There are much higher
> capacilities on these systems, and if people don't get the best graphics
> possible on the system, then they might not think it's as good a game as
> it really is. The same can still be said for the GBA. "Good" graphics
> can only be relative to the system, and I'm sure most people would shy
> away from old GB games, or newer GBA games that don't have good graphics.

quote:

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> Ice Wipe Inc. wrote:
>
>
> i would say that gameplay is the most important thing on any system for
> any game...
>
> unfortunately in this largely cosmetic world appearance sells, and so
> graphics help to generate sales...

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> dementia wrote:
realise[vbcol=seagreen]
framerate[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I'm talking about the console systems. There are much higher
> capacilities on these systems, and if people don't get the best graphics
> possible on the system, then they might not think it's as good a game as
> it really is. The same can still be said for the GBA. "Good" graphics
> can only be relative to the system, and I'm sure most people would shy
> away from old GB games, or newer GBA games that don't have good graphics.

quote:

---

> The GBA isn't about graphics at all, the point of the system is that its
> PORTABLE. The gameplay is the most important thing on the GBA, with
> grapchis coming a distance second. It doesn't matter if a GBA game uses a
> cool 3D engine, if the game is boring no one will buy it once the hype
> settles.

quote:

---

> Jimmery wrote:
>
>
>
> ------------------------
>
> but, on the other hand, take 2 systems, 1 can handle the game with
> better visuals, is cheaper & is out earlier.
>
>
> the other has to (i expect, lets face it we dont know for certain) have
> it cut down slightly, is out 12 months later & costs more, but has the
> "cooler", better marketed brand name.
>
> which sells more copies....... the latter of course, go figure..... :/
>
> I think the marketing of the ps2 is superb, hats off to sony, they have
> managed to not only win the console war, but have practically destroyed
> the opposition - & killed off the Sega DC completely, & yet for the most
> part the ps2 is (imo - others feel free to disagree) the inferior
> console to both the GC & the xbox.
>

quote:

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> "John Salerno" <johnjsal@NOSPAMrcn.com> wrote in message
> news:_OednRfdpJdtbxvcRVn-sw@rcn.net...
>
>
> realise
>
>
> framerate
>
>
>
> Ok, explain to me why Pokemon games have the highest sales of GBA games when
> the graphics are just "OK"
> I'm sorry JS but your reasoning just doesn't hold up. I know some people
> really care about graphics but it's the gameplay that makes the game worth
> the coin, even my 11 year old knows that.
>
>

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> On 2/11/04 8:09 pm, in article IYqdncB5TejjdBrcRVn-3w@rcn.net, "John
> Salerno" <johnjsal@NOSPAMrcn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> No, for most gamers image matters the most. Which is why PS2 has outsold
> everything out there by miles, and why we get the likes of MOH and NFSU
> routinely topping the charts, because they're the 'in' game at that

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> The graphics in GTA:SA aren't great, the models are average and the draw
> distance is about five metres, but you get to mow people down, so it's

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> so it sells.
>
> Zo
>

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> In the end in the US, blood and violence sells.

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> Eiji Hayashi wrote:
news:<bVfid.10172$K7.2368@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...[vbcol=seagreen]
game to[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Actually, whilst i agree there are some great games on the PS2 which
> make it worth owning the PS2 whooped the dreamcast for instance BEFORE
> any of those games were released, & it was a sucess before there were
> that many good games on it, so yes i would say marketing is one of the
> main reasons why the ps2 is so popular.
>
>
> So many people think that the ps2 IS the best games console out there.
>
> Now whilst it may be true for some people, depending on their taste in
> games, this may well be the case, but for others its simply becasue they
> have no idea what is really out for the gamecube

quote:

---

> Eiji Hayashi wrote:
>
> Actually, whilst i agree there are some great games on the PS2 which
> make it worth owning the PS2 whooped the dreamcast for instance BEFORE
> any of those games were released, & it was a sucess before there were
> that many good games on it, so yes i would say marketing is one of the
> main reasons why the ps2 is so popular.

quote:

---

> So many people think that the ps2 IS the best games console out there.

quote:

---

> Now whilst it may be true for some people, depending on their taste in
> games, this may well be the case, but for others its simply becasue they
> have no idea what is really out for the gamecube or the xbox.

quote:

---

> Many people just think the Gamecube is for kids, & the xbox is a PC with
> only PC style games, & that the PS2 is the most powerful console out of
> the bunch. Clearly that is just superior brand awarness of the ps2.

quote:

---

>
> They make games for the GameCube?
> I checked EB games coming soon list back in Sept to see what was coming out
> for all the systems.
> From sept thru Jan 31st for both the XBox and PS2 the list was a dozen+
> pages long, for the Cube it was only 3 pages. The GameCube needs more
> support! The PS2 is number 1 because it has that support and a ton of great
> games to play!
>
>

quote:

---

>
> I'm not one of those ppl, my cousin owns a GC and I have five friends
> that own XBOX so I'm fairly aware of what each has to offer
>

quote:

---

>
> I certainly see how brand awareness can enhence the positive
> perception of a particular console, but I don't see how it will
> negatively affect the perception of other consoles

quote:

---

>
>
> & it is the best supported becasue it has the highest sales, which imo
> is because its the best marketed & has the "cooler" image. (its a big
> circle - there is a song about a hole & a bucket which springs to mind!)
>
> image is everything, just look at the people who want a new ps two or
> what ever its called just becasue it looks cooler.
>
>
> all this is just imo & am not trying to start an argument, just a
> discussion ;)
>
> Christ imo the proof in the pudding is that the original ps1 continued
> to outself the Sega DC even when it cost peanuts, & had some of the best
> arcade games on it ever. just goes to show if you can get brand awarness
> you have won half the battle already.
>
>
> i think sony will have to work harder with the PS3 tho, i am genuinely
> interested to see what happens in an Xbox 2 vs PS3 battle.
>
> its all great for the consumer tho, the worst that could happen would be
> a monopoly on any console.
>

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>
> "Ice Wipe Inc." <birdworm12@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5_ohd.6712$K7.6309@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
past[vbcol=seagreen]
that[vbcol=seagreen]
> And
at[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> but would the game do the console justice? Sure, RE4 looks great now, but
> next to a bunch of brand new next-gen console games I can't imagine it

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> have the same impact.
>
>

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> Eiji Hayashi wrote:
>
> Actually, whilst i agree there are some great games on the PS2 which make
> it worth owning the PS2 whooped the dreamcast for instance BEFORE any of
> those games were released, & it was a sucess before there were that many
> good games on it, so yes i would say marketing is one of the main reasons
> why the ps2 is so popular.
>

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> Its the games that matter in the end, not the console. If porting a game to
> a system that can't reproduce the original, then your wasting your time.
>
> Marketting made the PS2, not the games.

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> "Ice Wipe Inc." <birdworm12@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bVfid.10172$K7.2368@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
>
>
>
> oh really.. you think the PS2 would still be the PS2 without GTA, MGS,
> FFX, GT, Jak, R&C, etc.. hum interesting..
>
> BTW.. I have an igloo I'm selling in the republic of Congo, real
> cheap, are you interested?