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> Is anyone else looking forward to a Moonwalker SEQUEL?! Why isn't that on a
> SEGA CLASSICS disk?
>
>

quote:

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> Is anyone else looking forward to a Moonwalker SEQUEL?! Why isn't that on
> a SEGA CLASSICS disk?
>

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> as sick as he looked coming out that courtroom, it wouldn't suprise me
> if he is dead within the next 5 years.......is it just me, or does he
> and Janet have the exact same nose job? Without Janet's boobs, I
> couldn't tell them apart.
>

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>
> "Fred Liken" <fredliken@toocool4school.com> wrote in message
> news:42adfade$0$90611$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...
>
> Honestly, IMHO it was ok the first time through but was kind of tedious
> after a while and just wasn't that great of a game. Not much replay
> value.

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> "Angel" <Angela7422@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:DYmdnatEQeOzYDDfRVn-rA@wideopenwest.com...
>
> But now it could be in 3D!
>

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> as sick as he looked coming out that courtroom, it wouldn't suprise me
> if he is dead within the next 5 years.......is it just me, or does he
> and Janet have the exact same nose job? Without Janet's boobs, I
> couldn't tell them apart.
>

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> shit, if I was a young boy, I'd bust out the KY and be on Michael's
> doorstep. Give me a huge settlement (5-10 mil) for penetrating my
> orifices any day Michael. I'll have plenty of time to get over it while
> I'm resting in the Cayman Islands enjoying that dough. :> )
>

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> Janet was there too though no? That's what the news
> corrospondent said.
> It looked like Janet to me but I could be mistaken.
>

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> as sick as he looked coming out that courtroom, it wouldn't suprise me
> if he is dead within the next 5 years.......is it just me, or does he
> and Janet have the exact same nose job? Without Janet's boobs, I
> couldn't tell them apart.
>

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> Fred Liken wrote:
>
>
>
> Young boys everywhere RUN AND HIDE!

quote:

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> Is anyone else looking forward to a Moonwalker SEQUEL?! Why isn't that on

quote:

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> SEGA CLASSICS disk?
>
>

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> as sick as he looked coming out that courtroom, it wouldn't suprise me
> if he is dead within the next 5 years.......is it just me, or does he
> and Janet have the exact same nose job? Without Janet's boobs, I
> couldn't tell them apart.

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> theOne wrote:
>
> Beeb correspondent said yesterday he is 5ft 11 and weighs only 6 and half
> stone. He lost 2 stone in about a month. The guy is ill.
>
>

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> I swore Janet and Micheal were the same person for years,untill she
> started
> wearing more revealing clothing in the mid 90's.

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> well, I was thinking like that too until the "mom" got on the stand. If
> there were anyone that single-handedly lost the case for the
> prosecution, it was that money grubbing crack whore. Reasonable doubt
> that it didn't go down like that? I think so.
>
> but hey, civil liberties are nice I heard just the other day, that
> kitchen knives are being outlawed in the UK.That's right..... Kitchen
> Knives.

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> Not too mention, no guns

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> and and no multimedia (movies etc.)

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> considered profane by the gov't. No relevance, I know you're
> in.....Germany?.....but do you have similar laws?

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> matter of time before Brits are all wearing orange jumpsuits and
> barcodes on their necks.

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> The_Rock wrote:
>
> Indeed I would be. But he was probably ill before this all started.
>

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>guns aren't readily available in the local Walmart.

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[vbcol=seagreen]
>True, but if you know where to look you can get your hands on pretty much
>anything :-) But, yep, this is a 4king disgrace. We are treated like
>children who need parental supervision.

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>As opposed to check shirts, driving pick up trucks, carrying shot guns and
>listening to Billy Ray Cyrus?!? :-)

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>i hope one day they will finally get him and punish him
> as he deserves.
>
> but thats america, you can molest as many childs as you
> want as long as you are a celeb.

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> "Christoph K=F6gler" <cronoz@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:d8mj8j$bhn$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>
> He's innocent. That was proven.

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> well I'll take your word for it. They all looked a bit less
> unattractive without the proper lighting compensation (in the sunlight)
> Musta been LaToya although that didn't look like her rack..
>

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>
>
> See, this is why you've become a troll in my eyes. Besides this
> off-topic crossposting thread,

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> you know very well how the judicial
> system works. Michael Jackson was found *not guilty*. He wasn't
> "proven to be innocent."

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> "Christoph Kögler" <cronoz@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:d8mj8j$bhn$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>
> He's innocent. That was proven.

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> See, this is why you've become a troll in my eyes.

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that[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> NO surprise. I've spoken with people about this before. BTW, no
> Wal-Mart around me sells guns and they're not "readily available"
> if you abide by the law.

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> Truthfully, we Americans are a sporty type and
> I don't see the holistic harm. I used to go hunting with my father
> and plan on buying a new weapon very soon.

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> Sure we have the occasional
> shooting go down but I really think gun violence in this country is
> exaggerated way too much.

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> The actual people committing most crimes
> aren't registered users and shouldn't have guns anyways. So what
> would banning guns do? Take away the protection from registered owners
> and leave them in the hands of criminals?

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> Also, looking at gun violence
> according to statistics, we have more than 5x the population of Britain
> so even if guns were allowed over there (or similar population), it
> would be expected that we'd have more deaths attributed to firearms.

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> I don't
> blame your country though. I've seen the senile crowds. Guns and
> Football (Soccer) DO NOT mix. ;)

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and[vbcol=seagreen]
> You watch too much TV.

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> heheh.....yeee haw....
>
> hey did you check out that capmag link I posted?

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> which part of CA did you visit? I'm moving to the Bay area next year.

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> My mom bought it out of curiosity and showed it to me.
> She wasn't such a freak back then and it didn't look half
> bad at all.

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> Mattinglyfan (deez nuts) wrote:
>
>
> That's not a nice thing to say about your mom

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> shit, if I was a young boy, I'd bust out the KY and be on Michael's
> doorstep. Give me a huge settlement (5-10 mil) for penetrating my
> orifices any day Michael. I'll have plenty of time to get over it while
> I'm resting in the Cayman Islands enjoying that dough. :> )
>

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>
>
>
>Fred Liken wrote:
>
>See, this is why you've become a troll in my eyes.

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> "Bram" <spamdustbin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1118846602.179323.106890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> But, we are learning quite a bit about Mattinglyfan and why he's like he
> is.
>

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>
> "theOne" <theone.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1118699156.582783.276740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> I don't know. It depends on how big "it" is, and don't forget the fact
> that after the trial or settlement, you'd be world-famous for being the
> kid who got butt-rammed by MJ. That would kinda suck. On the other hand,
> if you are careful with the money, you can live a lifetime on five million
> bucks and never have to work. But you wouldn't be able to spend like a
> rich person, or you'd go through it all faster than you would ever think.
> A lot of big-buck lottery winners have spent it all and gone broke within
> five to ten years!
>

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>
> "MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:_73se.4559$6o4.1171@fed1read04...
>
> I could've sworn when I called him one a couple months back I was told
> different ;-)
>

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> In article <1118761177.381293.159990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> holleyrp@delanet.com says...
>
> Oops.....I never relized he wasn't one.

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> Nothing explains why you are a dick though.

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>
> "Boody Bandit" <boodybandit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:096dnYkUK8q4Ii3fRVn-1A@suscom.com...
>
> Its like when you friends tell you that your girlfriend is a XXXXX/ho.
> Sometimes you are so enamored that you can't see it until you spend some
> time. If only someone had warned Jojo sooner, he would have more money
> for games.

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>
>
>"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
>news:8dydnU9y8LJHcS3fRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
>
>Remind me to never read one of your replies 1st thing in the morning while
>drinking coffee.
>Excuse while I grab some paper towels, DICK! ;-)
>
>

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> In article <ycSdnQEppMDF-SzfRVn-tg@suscom.com>, boodybandit@hotmail.com
> says...
> I said I never relized he wasn't one.
>

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> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
>
>
> Yes, this has already been explained, my slow friend. You're an XXX hole,
> so you'll be treated as such.

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>You're the one that threw down the gauntlet, don't you remember? Now
>you're all pussying out because I've owned you.
>

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>
> "MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:vCise.11107$6o4.7301@fed1read04...
message[vbcol=seagreen]
told[vbcol=seagreen]
some[vbcol=seagreen]
money[vbcol=seagreen]
while[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I was referring to RPH.

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>
>
> Mattinglyfan (deez nuts) wrote:
boodybandit@hotmail.com[vbcol=seagreen]
message[vbcol=seagreen]
<1118761177.381293.159990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,[vbcol=seagreen]
told[vbcol=seagreen]
XXXXX/ho.[vbcol=seagreen]
some[vbcol=seagreen]
money[vbcol=seagreen]
while[vbcol=seagreen]
views[vbcol=seagreen]
dick[vbcol=seagreen]
trying[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> My judgement was never clouded. When he is being objective in his
> posts I have no problem with him. When I feel he stoops to trolling, I
> will call him on it just like anyone else around here, including
> yourself.
>
> He's no more a "dick" around here than you, Jojo or Bandit.

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> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
>
>
> hahaha, yes, anyone that has a different opinion than you is a XXXXX
> troll.

quote:

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> lol. Typical myopic nonsense I expect from your ilk.

quote:

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>It's the way you can feel all good and snuggly with the rest of your
>girlfriends like jojo, et al.
>
> Hilarious! You couldn't defend your positions, you just said I was a
> XXXXX. Fact was the only XXXXX move was on your part.

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> In article <1118946490.998181.36640@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> holleyrp@delanet.com says...
> some
> while

Bullshit. When he doesn't agree with something you believe, then he is
trolling. When he is doing his normal bait and talk shit to multiple
members of the newsgroup outside of myself, Jojo or Bandit, you don't say a
damned thing. Guess all the shit he said was ok as long as it is not in
direct conflict with what you believe.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> You just proved that your judgement is clouded with that statement.
>

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> I was referring to RPH. I think for a while their shared political views
> clouded Rob's judgment. He didn't see that the guy was an intentional
> dick to everyone and really took to defending him. The whole time, I was
> trying to tell him that his "XXXXX" was a "XXXXX".

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> "MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:vCise.11107$6o4.7301@fed1read04...
>
> I was referring to RPH. I think for a while their shared political views
> clouded Rob's judgment. He didn't see that the guy was an intentional dick
> to everyone and really took to defending him. The whole time, I was trying
> to tell him that his "XXXXX" was a "XXXXX".

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> My comment to you was about your ex-wife and not the current ho (Fred).

quote:

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>
>
>
>Mattinglyfan (deez nuts) wrote:
some[vbcol=seagreen]
while[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>My judgement was never clouded.

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>
>
>
>Mattinglyfan (deez nuts) wrote:
some[vbcol=seagreen]
while[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>My judgement was never clouded. When he is being objective in his
>posts I have no problem with him. When I feel he stoops to trolling, I
>will call him on it just like anyone else around here, including
>yourself.
>
>He's no more a "dick" around here than you, Jojo or Bandit.

quote:

---

>
>
>"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:vCise.11107$6o4.7301@fed1read04...
>
>I was referring to RPH. I think for a while their shared political views
>clouded Rob's judgment. He didn't see that the guy was an intentional dick
>to everyone and really took to defending him. The whole time, I was trying
>to tell him that his "XXXXX" was a "XXXXX".
>
>My comment to you was about your ex-wife and not the current ho (Fred).
>
>

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>
> I'm an XXXXXXX to you because you are such a cock. That still doesn't
> answer why you are ALWAYS a dick to pretty much everyone.

quote:

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> I have never pussied out against your XXXXX XXX.

quote:

---

> Never killfiled you and I respond to every bit out weak shit your lame XXX
> puts out.

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>
> Bullshit. When he doesn't agree with something you believe, then he is
> trolling. When he is doing his normal bait and talk shit to multiple
> members of the newsgroup outside of myself, Jojo or Bandit, you don't say
> a damned thing.

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> For what its worth, you continuing to defend his trollish behavior renders
> whatever other opinions you have about as worthwhile as a cat shit
> sandwich.

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---

>
> No, you are a XXXXX troll whether you are agreeing with me or not.

quote:

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> Now you are officially a usenet lame. You might as well have responded
> with Pwned. Welcome to this Millennium.

quote:

---

>
>"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
>
>
>You really do have a warped view of the world.
>
>

quote:

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>
>
> Mattinglyfan (deez nuts) wrote:
>
> My judgement was never clouded. When he is being objective in his
> posts I have no problem with him. When I feel he stoops to trolling, I
> will call him on it just like anyone else around here, including
> yourself.
>
> He's no more a "dick" around here than you, Jojo or Bandit.
>
> And for what it's worth, he is correct in calling you a pirate for
> stealing movies for your PSP. Burning them from your own DVD collect
> is one thing (and perfectly acceptable), renting movies to rip to a
> memory card is pirating.

quote:

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>
>

quote:

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> For what its worth, you continuing to defend his trollish behavior renders
> whatever other opinions you have about as worthwhile as a cat shit

quote:

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> Unless you are intentionally XXXXing blind (which is probably the case),

quote:

---

> is quite clear that it is not a behavior he reserves for the 3 people you
> mention. Also for what its worth, I couldn't give a shit either way. If

quote:

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> were Jojo or Bandit calling me a Pirate, my response would be "....And?"
> The difference is, Fred is a dick and you are a XXXXing hypocrite. At

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> Fred is constistent about his "dickhood" and would probably fight till the
> death to defend his right to be a dick. That is something Fred excels at
> and he is probably quite proud of it. It is impossible to gauge where you
> stand because you are the John Kerry of the ng for the way you flip flop

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> meet your needs. Fred's a dick (according to you) only when he is calling
> you out for whining or being immature but he is a XXXXing genius when it
> comes to everything else he says. You are a XXXXing hypocrite, plain and
> simple.

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> ohhh I'm sure he's diligently "compiling" a relief pitch(er) in the pen
> as we speak. lol, lemmee go make some popcorn ; I'll be riiiggghht
> back. GO CUBBIES!
>

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> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
>
>
> Oh, but that's your own view point on it. You're not really the one I'd
> come to for objective analysis of the situation. You're very emotional.
>
> Oh yes you did. You started whining about me and told me to quit
> "stalking" you. lol. What a XXXXX move that was. You can't rewrite
> history now, my little XXXXX.
>
>
> Owned.

quote:

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>
>"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote
>
>
>So typical. You're too dumb to take two steps back and look at this
>objectively.
>
>Too emotional, it seems.
>
>

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> I say he's to god damn funny.......cat shit sandwich...now thats worth a
> good
> chuckle!

quote:

---

>
> "Fred Liken" <fredliken@toocool4school.com> wrote in message
> news:42b1c1fc$1$738$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...
>
> Now you are officially a usenet lame. You might as well have responded
> with Pwned. Welcome to this Millennium.

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> He was talking ABOUT you.....not TO YOU.... and if you wan't to look at
> the stats you've probably posted 5-6 replies to his every post that he
> connotes you.....LOL.
>
> You're becoming very feeble at this point, you poor wittle tough guy
>
> MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.......

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---

> Inflammatory? If I am, please don't allow me to take your thunder away.
> After all, you're undisputed king of inflammatory
>
> And secondly, you've given me more props than him in the past schmuck,
> magically appearing more than one of my flame threads. Ohh, how your
> memory deceives you. Why, just look at you know. So rational; so
> pacified. Obviously you're out of your element because in your natural
> state, you're a raving lunatic; starting arguments wherever you can.
> LOL at you too.

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> worked for me

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>
> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
> news:bPudnRbjme-FSCzfRVn-hg@comcast.com...
message[vbcol=seagreen]
I'd[vbcol=seagreen]
emotional.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> He also forgot the "!!!1111111!!!" after "pwned".
>
> But seriously, this limp-wristed excuse for a troll is just looking to get
> attention the easy way, by being an XXXXXXX. You respond to him, you're
> giving him exactly what he wants. Why be his willing slave? Killfile him
> (or her) and be done with it.

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> he's said cat shit b4? I thought that was amusing my damn self. But I'm
> not one to laugh at reruns....Damn my TIVO!

quote:

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> damn Fred, This is a first to play the maturity guise huh? Niice (to
> anyone that hasn't seen your previous posts)! heheheheh.

quote:

---

> But seriously, this limp-wristed excuse for a troll is just looking to get
> attention the easy way, by being an XXXXXXX.

quote:

---

> You respond to him, you're giving him exactly what he wants. Why be his
> willing slave? Killfile him (or her) and be done with it.

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> lol, you're worried about what EVERYONE sez right now; isn't it so
> apparently so?
>
> as far as the girlfriend innuendo, its cuz you gave me the clap.
> Everytime I pee, I think you of you Frederick

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---

>
> "theOne" <theone.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1118963149.140824.55590@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> You know when you feel like you have to shit so bad but not even one lil
> tiny turd will come out no matter how hard you try?
> That is when I think of Freddie ;-)

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> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote
>
>
> Hey, as long as you're an old school XXXXX, you'll be labeled

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> "mo" <ian@istevens.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:d8t40k$i2h$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
>
> I don't care one way or the other. lol. Mattinglyfan just claimed a

quote:

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> back that he was all "l33t" and no one could make fun of him, etc. Now I
> own the XXXXX and he flails like a baby every time I snap my fingers.

quote:

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> Damn,
> I had to bust urban dictionary on that geekified stuff....
>
> 1. l33t
> Hacker slang for "Elite" shortened to "LEET" from "31337" wich is
> actually "ELITE".
> That is some l33t r00tin you h4x0r!
>
>
> LMAO!

quote:

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> In article <42b1e32f$1$691$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>,
> fredliken@toocool4school.com says...
> I say he's to god damn funny.......cat shit sandwich...now thats worth a
> good
> chuckle!

quote:

---

>
> Bullshit. When he doesn't agree with something you believe, then he is
> trolling. When he is doing his normal bait and talk shit to multiple
> members of the newsgroup outside of myself, Jojo or Bandit, you don't say a
> damned thing. Guess all the shit he said was ok as long as it is not in
> direct conflict with what you believe.

quote:

---

>
> Guess he hasn't been reading Fred's posts to most in the group. Or maybe
> Fred has that blinding XXX that makes a man see no wrong.

quote:

---

> I'm starting to get the feeling that you two don't like each other very
> much.

quote:

---

>
>
> Mattinglyfan (deez nuts) wrote:
>
> My judgement was never clouded. When he is being objective in his
> posts I have no problem with him. When I feel he stoops to trolling, I
> will call him on it just like anyone else around here, including
> yourself.
>
> He's no more a "dick" around here than you, Jojo or Bandit.
>
> And for what it's worth, he is correct in calling you a pirate for
> stealing movies for your PSP. Burning them from your own DVD collect
> is one thing (and perfectly acceptable), renting movies to rip to a
> memory card is pirating.
>

quote:

---

>

quote:

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> "Adam Corolla" <nospam@nospam03550265902.com> wrote in message
> news:R8ydnTyEZNfpbSzfRVn-
>
>
> You were the one that was an XXXXXXX to me, so you might want to get off
> your soap box, my friend. I wasn't even an XXXXXXX back. I'm a nice guy.
> You'd see that if you just looked at it objectively.

quote:

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>
>
> Because he is owned, that's why. Quit trying to rationalize with him.
> It's above his ability and below your dignity.
>

quote:

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>
>
> Mattinglyfan (deez nuts) wrote:
>
> I don't say a thing because you are all doing the same thing to each
> other, insult-wise. You call him a name, he calls you a name...back
> and forth it goes. Why should I care that you two are bickering?
>

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>
> XXXX you, you XXXXing cock-sucker. You are a God damn embarrassment to
> school teachers everywhere you God damn prick.

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>
> I hope your family dies a horrible death you XXXXing racist.

quote:

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>
> I am done with you, coach dicknose. Done.
>

quote:

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> "theOne" <theone.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1118960048.542228.193160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Link? I seem to remember a time when you weren't so spastic, and you've
> talked about the XBox media, but other than that, you've seem to be
> getting more just hounding on people.
>

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> "mo" <ian@istevens.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:d8t40k$i2h$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
>
> I don't care one way or the other. lol. Mattinglyfan just claimed a
> while back that he was all "l33t" and no one could make fun of him, etc.
> Now I own the XXXXX and he flails like a baby every time I snap my
> fingers.
>

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> Holley is just too darned tightly wound. The guy needs to take a break
> from his part time usenet RSS newsfeed job/moderator and go outside.
> Too much pirate this and troll that....... [Jake LaMotta] You call this
> a steak?! Forget about it..........

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> "theOne" <theone.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1118758417.726014.200680@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> that
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> That's interesting to note.
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>
> I think this boils down to a cultural difference. I simply can't see the
> pleasure in it. hey, don't get me wrong, I'm no knee jerk reactionary who
> shouts MURDERER when someone shoots a deer, but it's just not something I
> personally would never enjoy and, in truth, I don't know anyone that would
> around here. Hunting is highly stigmatized in this country, especially
> hunting with dogs, and tends to be pursued by the more affluent members of
> society, and as a result seems very elitist. I'm fairly sure that the
> same
> is not true in the States.

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> I was, of course, being vaguely ironic. I was lucky enough to spend three
> months in California last year, so I am well aware of the fact that only
> half of Americans fall into that category.... ;-)
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>hunting license (I assume the UK abides by these requirements) are just
>ridiculous. Classes, fees in excess of 1000 Euro, more classes, then you're
>not even guaranteed to get a license. If you are granted a license, there's
>an even smaller guarantee of bagging a meal.

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> my.my.....whatever gave you that impression. Was it > before or after

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> prissy boys(and Britain) kicked your country's nit wit > XXX in WWII?