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---

> there no voice acting?
>
> Eiji Aonuma: In terms of widescreen mode, I think you'll notice that when
> the game goes into cinematics, the screen shifts and stretches into what
> is technically a 16x9 frame. However, if you were to put that up on a
> widescreen, then when it shifted out of the cinema scenes the top and
> bottom of the standard 3x4 would then pop off the screen. So it is kind of
> widescreen mode [laughs], but maybe not the way you were thinking.
>

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> Hrmf... what is the matter with developers these days? Can't they see that
> people WANT 16:9? I hate it when I have to have big black borders on the
> sides because the stupid developers didn't implement proper widescreen

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>

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> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message news:%tYie.5822
>
> mode.
>
>
> I don't want it. I have a beautiful 4:3 TV and I want to use the whole
> screen (for games, anyway). 4:3 TVs still vastly outnumber 16:9 ones, by
> the way, so "people want 16:9" is an exaggeration.

quote:

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> Just for your information, implementing 16:9 in a game doesn't mean it'll
> get letterboxed if you use the game on 4:3 tvs. All games with 16:9

quote:

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> also support 4:3 by default. The 16:9 is an option, not a forced feature

quote:

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> games. You will still use your whole screen if you use it in 4:3.

quote:

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> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:i9Mje.12972
>
> support
> in
>
>
> Not true. There are 16:9-only games, just not many. But when designing a
> game, you can't properly do both. Aside from the technical issues of
> getting two modes to function well, presentation (and probably
> playability)
> is going to suffer in one mode or the other, depending on which is the
> focus. In movies, the 16:9 is the better format, and 4:3 is usually just
> a
> cropped version of that. Games might eventually end up the same way,
> especially with HDTV resolutions being 16:9 by default. If a game is
> going
> to run in 16:9, I'd prefer that it ONLY do 16:9, rather than try to do
> both
> and suffer for it. But like I said, I play on a 4:3 screen and prefer
> that.
> The widescreen format is too XXXXed-up for me to even consider a
> widescreen
> TV anytime soon.
>
>

quote:

---

> Hmmm, I've yet to see a 16:9 only game. Unless you consider The Getaway as
> one of them, where your screen "grows" a bit wider if you use 16:9 mode.

quote:

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> you give me any examples? Because 99,9% of the games that have a 16:9 mode
> that I've tried don't "downgrade" for 4:3, because that's the default.
> Anyway, at least from where I come, a widescreen mode is almost a given.

quote:

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> if you consider buying a TV, you have to look hard if you're looking for
> anything else than 16:9.

quote:

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> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:yqOje.14221
>
> Can
> And
>
> Resident Evil 4 is 16:9 only, most recently. And no, most games don't
> "downgrade" to 4:3, I know, usually they run worse in 16:9 if anything.
> It's movies that get the shaft in 4:3. I'm just saying that games might
> be
> headed that way too, since they'll be made to support HDTV resolutions in
> the future, all of which are widescreen by default.
> I don't know where you've been shopping for TVs, but it must be the
> widescreen store or something. Probably 3/4 or more of televisions are
> 4:3,
> still. And 90+ percent of TVs in homes are still 4:3.
>
>

quote:

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>
> if you consider buying a TV, you have to look hard if you're looking for
> anything else than 16:9.
>

quote:

---

>
> Fair enough, I didn't think about what country or planet you were from. If
> I walk into a store here in Canada (or the U.S. for that matter) you will
> see plenty of 4:3 sets, with the 16:9 still considered a high-end product.
>

quote:

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>
> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:yqOje.14221$Fe7.90951@news000.worldonline.dk...
>
>
> What have you been smoking??

quote:

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> Resident Evil 4 isn't 16:9. They just made it look that way to seem more
> cinematic. Either that, or they couldn't get the game run at decent speed

quote:

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> full-screen mode. If I want Resident Evil 4 to look "right" i have to use
> 4:3, thus I get black borders on the side AND top and bottom. I could use
> the stretch mode, but usually, the stretch mode makes the graphics unclear
> and shabby (like when you zoom in on pictures on the pc). So no, Resident
> Evil 4 is a 4:3 letterboxed game, not a 16:9 game.

quote:

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> Nothing. When buying a TV here in Norway, even at the biggest chains, 99%

quote:

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> the TVs are 16:9. Unless you're from the same place I live, I think I know
> more than you what's available and what's not.

quote:

---

>
> "Grackle" <nobody@lalaland.ca> wrote in message
> news:Lb1ke.888$Ot6.69041@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> Nothing. When buying a TV here in Norway, even at the biggest chains, 99%
> of the TVs are 16:9. Unless you're from the same place I live, I think I
> know more than you what's available and what's not.
>

quote:

---

> Fair enough, I didn't think about what country or planet you were from. If
> I walk into a store here in Canada (or the U.S. for that matter) you will
> see plenty of 4:3 sets, with the 16:9 still considered a high-end product.

quote:

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> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:SPXje.20080
>
> in
>
> Yeah, that's true. But that's also true of almost all "widescreen format"
> movies. They're really 4:3 with black bars. Hence the subtitles being
> offscreen if you display the movie properly on your widescreen TV. That's
> one of the things I was talking about when I said the widescreen format is
> so XXXXed up.
>
>

quote:

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> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message news:SPXje.20080
>
>
>
> in
>
>
>
> Yeah, that's true. But that's also true of almost all "widescreen format"
> movies. They're really 4:3 with black bars. Hence the subtitles being
> offscreen if you display the movie properly on your widescreen TV. That's
> one of the things I was talking about when I said the widescreen format is
> so XXXXed up.
>
>

quote:

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> All of the games that support widescreen uses the full screen. Resident

quote:

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> 4 simply doesn't support widescreen, and even if it did, it would still

quote:

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> those black borders, because Capcom made the game that. The 16:9 format
> isn't XXXXed up at all. If it's implemented, it works fine. If not, well,
> that's what I find annoying. I don't really understand what your beef is
> with the 16:9 support in games. Every game supports 4:3 by default. Adding
> 16:9 support is something all gamers with a16:9 tv wants, and belive me,
> there are a lot of them. The people who plays on a 4:3 tv will not be
> affected in any way by this.

quote:

---

>movies. They're really 4:3 with black bars. Hence the subtitles being
>offscreen if you display the movie properly on your widescreen TV. That's
>one of the things I was talking about when I said the widescreen format is
>so XXXXed up.
>

quote:

---

>Grackle wrote:
>
>I find it strange whenever I'm in the US to see so many 4:3 TV's, it
>really does seem pretty backwards to me. In Europe 16:9 is the norm, in
>fact I can't think of anyone I know who has a 4:3 TV as their main TV.
>
>One annoying thing though, is that once we got 16:9 TV's, all the DVDs
>seemingly get put into 2.35:1 now, meaning I *still* have black bars,
>aaargh! Often get the US version of a DVD which is more likely to be in
>16:9, due to 2.35:1 looking pretty crap on a 4:3 TV

quote:

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> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message news:%tYie.5822
>
>
>
> mode.
>
>
>
> I don't want it. I have a beautiful 4:3 TV and I want to use the whole
> screen (for games, anyway). 4:3 TVs still vastly outnumber 16:9 ones, by
> the way, so "people want 16:9" is an exaggeration.
>
>

quote:

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> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message news:%tYie.5822
>
> mode.
>
>
> I don't want it. I have a beautiful 4:3 TV and I want to use the whole
> screen (for games, anyway). 4:3 TVs still vastly outnumber 16:9 ones, by
> the way, so "people want 16:9" is an exaggeration.

quote:

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> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message news:%tYie.5822
>
>
>
> mode.
>
>
>
> I don't want it. I have a beautiful 4:3 TV and I want to use the whole
> screen (for games, anyway). 4:3 TVs still vastly outnumber 16:9 ones, by
> the way, so "people want 16:9" is an exaggeration.

quote:

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> Leon Dexter wrote:

quote:

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[vbcol=seagreen]
> Agreed, but developers should start including it. Hell they should at
> least include an option to "stretch" the screen if you so wish. I
> think more and more gamers are going to widescreen TVs, so I think
> more games should at least add it is as an option.

quote:

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> But if you have the display tech to do it, you should be able to. I don't
> know a lot about the hardware behind 16:9, would it be a simple case of
> rendering to a wider buffer than the usual?

quote:

---

> Leon Dexter wrote:
>
>
>
> Agreed, but developers should start including it. Hell they should at
> least include an option to "stretch" the screen if you so wish. I think
> more and more gamers are going to widescreen TVs, so I think more games
> should at least add it is as an option.

quote:

---

> Hrmf... what is the matter with developers these days? Can't they see that
> people WANT 16:9? I hate it when I have to have big black borders on the
> sides because the stupid developers didn't implement proper widescreen

quote:

---

>

quote:

---

> Just for your information, implementing 16:9 in a game doesn't mean it'll
> get letterboxed if you use the game on 4:3 tvs. All games with 16:9

quote:

---

> also support 4:3 by default. The 16:9 is an option, not a forced feature

quote:

---

> games. You will still use your whole screen if you use it in 4:3.

quote:

---

> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:i9Mje.12972
>
> support
> in
>
>
> Not true. There are 16:9-only games, just not many. But when designing a
> game, you can't properly do both. Aside from the technical issues of
> getting two modes to function well, presentation (and probably
> playability)
> is going to suffer in one mode or the other, depending on which is the
> focus. In movies, the 16:9 is the better format, and 4:3 is usually just
> a
> cropped version of that. Games might eventually end up the same way,
> especially with HDTV resolutions being 16:9 by default. If a game is
> going
> to run in 16:9, I'd prefer that it ONLY do 16:9, rather than try to do
> both
> and suffer for it. But like I said, I play on a 4:3 screen and prefer
> that.
> The widescreen format is too XXXXed-up for me to even consider a
> widescreen
> TV anytime soon.
>
>

quote:

---

>
> if you consider buying a TV, you have to look hard if you're looking for
> anything else than 16:9.
>

quote:

---

>
> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:yqOje.14221$Fe7.90951@news000.worldonline.dk...
>
>
> What have you been smoking??

quote:

---

> Hmmm, I've yet to see a 16:9 only game. Unless you consider The Getaway as
> one of them, where your screen "grows" a bit wider if you use 16:9 mode.

quote:

---

> you give me any examples? Because 99,9% of the games that have a 16:9 mode
> that I've tried don't "downgrade" for 4:3, because that's the default.
> Anyway, at least from where I come, a widescreen mode is almost a given.

quote:

---

> if you consider buying a TV, you have to look hard if you're looking for
> anything else than 16:9.

quote:

---

> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:yqOje.14221
>
> Can
> And
>
> Resident Evil 4 is 16:9 only, most recently. And no, most games don't
> "downgrade" to 4:3, I know, usually they run worse in 16:9 if anything.
> It's movies that get the shaft in 4:3. I'm just saying that games might
> be
> headed that way too, since they'll be made to support HDTV resolutions in
> the future, all of which are widescreen by default.
> I don't know where you've been shopping for TVs, but it must be the
> widescreen store or something. Probably 3/4 or more of televisions are
> 4:3,
> still. And 90+ percent of TVs in homes are still 4:3.
>
>

quote:

---

> Nothing. When buying a TV here in Norway, even at the biggest chains, 99%

quote:

---

> the TVs are 16:9. Unless you're from the same place I live, I think I know
> more than you what's available and what's not.

quote:

---

>
> "Grackle" <nobody@lalaland.ca> wrote in message
> news:Lb1ke.888$Ot6.69041@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> Nothing. When buying a TV here in Norway, even at the biggest chains, 99%
> of the TVs are 16:9. Unless you're from the same place I live, I think I
> know more than you what's available and what's not.
>

quote:

---

> Fair enough, I didn't think about what country or planet you were from. If
> I walk into a store here in Canada (or the U.S. for that matter) you will
> see plenty of 4:3 sets, with the 16:9 still considered a high-end product.

quote:

---

> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:SPXje.20080
>
> in
>
> Yeah, that's true. But that's also true of almost all "widescreen format"
> movies. They're really 4:3 with black bars. Hence the subtitles being
> offscreen if you display the movie properly on your widescreen TV. That's
> one of the things I was talking about when I said the widescreen format is
> so XXXXed up.
>
>

quote:

---

>movies. They're really 4:3 with black bars. Hence the subtitles being
>offscreen if you display the movie properly on your widescreen TV. That's
>one of the things I was talking about when I said the widescreen format is
>so XXXXed up.
>

quote:

---

> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message news:SPXje.20080
>
>
>
> in
>
>
>
> Yeah, that's true. But that's also true of almost all "widescreen format"
> movies. They're really 4:3 with black bars. Hence the subtitles being
> offscreen if you display the movie properly on your widescreen TV. That's
> one of the things I was talking about when I said the widescreen format is
> so XXXXed up.
>
>

quote:

---

>
> Fair enough, I didn't think about what country or planet you were from. If
> I walk into a store here in Canada (or the U.S. for that matter) you will
> see plenty of 4:3 sets, with the 16:9 still considered a high-end product.
>

quote:

---

>Grackle wrote:
>
>I find it strange whenever I'm in the US to see so many 4:3 TV's, it
>really does seem pretty backwards to me. In Europe 16:9 is the norm, in
>fact I can't think of anyone I know who has a 4:3 TV as their main TV.
>
>One annoying thing though, is that once we got 16:9 TV's, all the DVDs
>seemingly get put into 2.35:1 now, meaning I *still* have black bars,
>aaargh! Often get the US version of a DVD which is more likely to be in
>16:9, due to 2.35:1 looking pretty crap on a 4:3 TV

quote:

---

> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:yqOje.14221
>
> Can
> And
>
> Resident Evil 4 is 16:9 only, most recently. And no, most games don't
> "downgrade" to 4:3, I know, usually they run worse in 16:9 if anything.
> It's movies that get the shaft in 4:3. I'm just saying that games might
> be
> headed that way too, since they'll be made to support HDTV resolutions in
> the future, all of which are widescreen by default.
> I don't know where you've been shopping for TVs, but it must be the
> widescreen store or something. Probably 3/4 or more of televisions are
> 4:3,
> still. And 90+ percent of TVs in homes are still 4:3.
>
>

quote:

---

> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message
> news:SPXje.20080
>
> in
>
> Yeah, that's true. But that's also true of almost all "widescreen format"
> movies. They're really 4:3 with black bars. Hence the subtitles being
> offscreen if you display the movie properly on your widescreen TV. That's
> one of the things I was talking about when I said the widescreen format is
> so XXXXed up.
>
>

quote:

---

> "Tommy Stenberg" <nobodysfool@dont.exist> wrote in message news:%tYie.5822
>
>
>
> mode.
>
>
>
> I don't want it. I have a beautiful 4:3 TV and I want to use the whole
> screen (for games, anyway). 4:3 TVs still vastly outnumber 16:9 ones, by
> the way, so "people want 16:9" is an exaggeration.
>
>