quote:

---

> Hello,
>
> Outlook Express is really p*ss*ng me off now. It is hanging when browsing
> USENET all the time.

quote:

---

> Hello,
>
> Outlook Express is really p*ss*ng me off now. It is hanging when browsing
> USENET all the time.
>
> What is the best reader which meets the following:
>
> - Is legitimately free or easily available non legitimately for free

quote:

---

> I only visit TEXT newsgroups, have no interest in Binary groups at the
> moment

quote:

---

> Hello,
>
> Outlook Express is really p*ss*ng me off now. It is hanging when browsing
> USENET all the time.
>
> What is the best reader which meets the following:
>
> - Is legitimately free or easily available non legitimately for free
>
> - Supports WATCHING a message
>
> - Is a piece of cake to install and use
>
> - Performs well and does not hog memory
>
>
> I only visit TEXT newsgroups, have no interest in Binary groups at the
> moment
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary.
>
>

quote:

---

> Hello,
>
> Outlook Express is really p*ss*ng me off now. It is hanging when browsing
> USENET all the time.
>
> What is the best reader which meets the following:
>
> - Is legitimately free or easily available non legitimately for free
>
> - Supports WATCHING a message
>
> - Is a piece of cake to install and use
>
> - Performs well and does not hog memory
>
>
> I only visit TEXT newsgroups, have no interest in Binary groups at the
> moment
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary.

quote:

---

> Hello,
>
> Outlook Express is really p*ss*ng me off now. It is hanging when browsing
> USENET all the time.
>

quote:

---

> What is the best reader which meets the following:
>
> - Is legitimately free or easily available non legitimately for free
>

quote:

---

> - Supports WATCHING a message
>

quote:

---

> - Is a piece of cake to install and use
>
> - Performs well and does not hog memory

quote:

---

> Hello,
>
> Outlook Express is really p*ss*ng me off now. It is hanging when browsing
> USENET all the time.
>
> What is the best reader which meets the following:
>
> - Is legitimately free or easily available non legitimately for free
>
> - Supports WATCHING a message
>
> - Is a piece of cake to install and use
>
> - Performs well and does not hog memory
>
>
> I only visit TEXT newsgroups, have no interest in Binary groups at the
> moment
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary.

quote:

---

> On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 16:04:15 GMT, G wrote:
>
>
> I use 40tude Dialog, it is like agent, but has a little more power. One
> nice feature is to watch subthreads, while ignoring others. It also gives
> warnings about excessive crossposting etc ;)
>
> As for its licence, this if from their webpage
> http://40tude.com/dialog/index.htm :
>
> 40tude Dialog is shareware for commercial users and freeware for private
> users, however donations are greatly appreciated.

quote:

---

> G wrote:
>
> I suggest you ditch Windows and install Linux. I'm a Mandrake man myself.

quote:

---

>
> Thief wannabe.
>
>
> Is this the same as "reading" a message?

quote:

---

>G wrote:
>
>I suggest you ditch Windows and install Linux. I'm a Mandrake man myself.
>
>
>Thief wannabe.
>
>
>Is this the same as "reading" a message?

quote:

---

>
>
>I use Mozilla's newsreader.

quote:

---

>
> Watching, highlights messages and gives them priority so you can read
> them first if you want.
>
> Agent does this very well. Also freeAgent is...er....free
>
> (Does the same as Agent but doesn't support email and a few other
> things)

quote:

---

>
>
> Or he could get MacOS X which is BSD Unix with a beautiful GUI ;-)

quote:

---

> Still, getting Linux if you only have a PC box isn't a bad idea these
> days. Mandrake's nice - but I advise shopping around and asking a bit
> more before you settle on a particular distribution. They've all their
> own strengths and weaknesses depending on what you want out of your OS.

quote:

---

>
>You Apple freaks have to stop bragging about that OS, like it was
>Apple-created. :-P Linux is more customizable. BTW, what kind of
>gamer has a Macintosh?

quote:

---

> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>
> You Apple freaks have to stop bragging about that OS, like it was
> Apple-created. :-P Linux is more customizable.

quote:

---

> BTW, what kind of
> gamer has a Macintosh?

quote:

---

> I mean, I hate Windows but I at least keep the
> partition so I can play all those great PC games made for DOS and
> Windows.

quote:

---

>Mac users have to take whatever scraps they can get. And you
> do know there are now more desktop users using Linux than Mac OS right
> now, eh? :-D

quote:

---

> Mandrake is the Apple of the Linux distros. I like it because it comes
> with some great system software to make managing your settings and such
> way easier.

quote:

---

> Arguable, yes, but only at the expense of stability and robustness. It's
> a well known adage that when a BSD developer writes a device driver he
> starts grokking the hardware. The linux developer starts by writing a 3D
> accelerated swoopy installer with transparency effects and phong shading
>
>

quote:

---

>
>
>
> Me?
>

quote:

---

> I use consoles for playing games.
>

quote:

---

>
>
>
> What a load of bollocks. There are a lot of hobbyists and tinkerers
> *playing* with linux and reinstalling every five minutes, sure. Mac
> users tend to use the machine to perform a task, rather than as
> something to tinker with.

quote:

---

>
>
>
>
> Until, of course, the gui tool doesn't work properly, at which point you
> realise the much vaunted linux filesystem standard is a beast of myth.

quote:

---

>
> Ah, I see the BSD propaganda has been sufficiently lodged into your head.

quote:

---

> Sir Chewbury Gubbins wrote:
>
> Ah, I see the BSD propaganda has been sufficiently lodged into your head.

quote:

---

>
> Why?

quote:

---

and computers for working.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> The PC had a run of great games in the 90s that is unparalleled on any
> system, I include the NES and SNES in that.

quote:

---

> NOT bollocks. IDC says Linux became the number 2 desktop OS in 2003,
> and should have 6% of the desktop OS market in 2007.

quote:

---

>
> Geez, you Apple people tick me off, you're so ignorant of anything that
> isn't Apple.

quote:

---

> Jacob Oost <zork@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>
> He's clearly thinking of windows anyway; I don't think I've _ever_ seen
> a graphical installer for a linux DD -- in fact I don't think I've ever
> seen a DD installer at all, as pretty much all linux DDs come packaged
> with the kernel.
>
> I think of the BSD vs. linux developer argument as being "Grumpy Bears
> vs. Rabid Weasels": Historically BSD developers have been on average a
> bit more clueful, but conservative, and far fewer in number; they would
> move steadily and slowly using the techniques that had served well for
> 20 years running. Linux developers were much greater in number, and had
> far greater energy and enthusiasm, but tended not to be as experienced.
>
> So BSD development would approach the, er, victim and slowly but surely
> crush him to death in a vise grip, and Linux developers would swarm over
> him in a dizzy blur, rapidly stripping flesh from bone.
>
> Of course this is changing with time; linux has in the last 5 years
> received a _lot_ of attention from very, very clueful people. If you
> read the linux-kernel mailing list, there's still a lingering taste of
> the old rabid weasel days, but it's very clear how high the general
> level of clue is (what's most amazing to me is the sheer number of
> people posting regularly to that list who are about 500 times smarter
> than I am :-/).

quote:

---

> BTW, I'm not trying to offend you here. I probably should have put some
> smilies in that last post or something.

quote:

---

>
> Linux works well (really well) as a server, but once you start sticking
> ridiculous windows managers and the like on top, it all starts to come
> apart. These days, Linux suffers from exactly the same problem as
> windows - trying to support an infinite number of random hardware. The
> Apple systems benefit from having the hardware made by the guys who make
> the software - the same situation as with Sun kit.

quote:

---

> Linux works well (really well) as a server, but once you start sticking
> ridiculous windows managers and the like on top, it all starts to come
> apart. These days, Linux suffers from exactly the same problem as
> windows - trying to support an infinite number of random hardware. The
> Apple systems benefit from having the hardware made by the guys who make
> the software - the same situation as with Sun kit.
>
> Choobs
>

quote:

---

> Sir Chewbury Gubbins wrote:
>
> There's no reason Linux *has* to have a bloated window manager, there
> are hundreds to choose from. People just like KDE because it is easy
> and has great features, not to mention it comes with loads of software.
> Same for Gnome, I guess, although I always thought Gnome was ugly and
> didn't handle virtual desktops very well.

quote:

---

> Hello,
>
> Outlook Express is really p*ss*ng me off now. It is hanging when browsing
> USENET all the time.
>
> What is the best reader which meets the following:
>
> - Is legitimately free or easily available non legitimately for free
>
> - Supports WATCHING a message
>
> - Is a piece of cake to install and use
>
> - Performs well and does not hog memory
>
>
> I only visit TEXT newsgroups, have no interest in Binary groups at the
> moment
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary.
>
>

quote:

---

> Hello,
>
> Outlook Express is really p*ss*ng me off now. It is hanging when browsing
> USENET all the time.
>
> What is the best reader which meets the following:
>
> - Is legitimately free or easily available non legitimately for free
>
> - Supports WATCHING a message
>
> - Is a piece of cake to install and use
>
> - Performs well and does not hog memory
>
>
> I only visit TEXT newsgroups, have no interest in Binary groups at the
> moment
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary.

quote:

---

>G wrote:
>
>I suggest you ditch Windows and install Linux. I'm a Mandrake man myself.
>
>
>Thief wannabe.
>
>
>Is this the same as "reading" a message?

quote:

---

>
>
>I use Mozilla's newsreader.

quote:

---

>
> Watching, highlights messages and gives them priority so you can read
> them first if you want.
>
> Agent does this very well. Also freeAgent is...er....free
>
> (Does the same as Agent but doesn't support email and a few other
> things)

quote:

---

>
>You Apple freaks have to stop bragging about that OS, like it was
>Apple-created. :-P Linux is more customizable. BTW, what kind of
>gamer has a Macintosh?

quote:

---

>
> Ah, I see the BSD propaganda has been sufficiently lodged into your head.

quote:

---

> BTW, I'm not trying to offend you here. I probably should have put some
> smilies in that last post or something.

quote:

---

>
>
> Or he could get MacOS X which is BSD Unix with a beautiful GUI ;-)

quote:

---

> Still, getting Linux if you only have a PC box isn't a bad idea these
> days. Mandrake's nice - but I advise shopping around and asking a bit
> more before you settle on a particular distribution. They've all their
> own strengths and weaknesses depending on what you want out of your OS.

quote:

---

> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>
> You Apple freaks have to stop bragging about that OS, like it was
> Apple-created. :-P Linux is more customizable.

quote:

---

> BTW, what kind of
> gamer has a Macintosh?

quote:

---

> I mean, I hate Windows but I at least keep the
> partition so I can play all those great PC games made for DOS and
> Windows.

quote:

---

>Mac users have to take whatever scraps they can get. And you
> do know there are now more desktop users using Linux than Mac OS right
> now, eh? :-D

quote:

---

> Mandrake is the Apple of the Linux distros. I like it because it comes
> with some great system software to make managing your settings and such
> way easier.

quote:

---

> Sir Chewbury Gubbins wrote:
>
> Ah, I see the BSD propaganda has been sufficiently lodged into your head.

quote:

---

>
> Why?

quote:

---

and computers for working.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> The PC had a run of great games in the 90s that is unparalleled on any
> system, I include the NES and SNES in that.

quote:

---

> NOT bollocks. IDC says Linux became the number 2 desktop OS in 2003,
> and should have 6% of the desktop OS market in 2007.

quote:

---

>
> Geez, you Apple people tick me off, you're so ignorant of anything that
> isn't Apple.

quote:

---

> Jacob Oost <zork@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>
> He's clearly thinking of windows anyway; I don't think I've _ever_ seen
> a graphical installer for a linux DD -- in fact I don't think I've ever
> seen a DD installer at all, as pretty much all linux DDs come packaged
> with the kernel.
>
> I think of the BSD vs. linux developer argument as being "Grumpy Bears
> vs. Rabid Weasels": Historically BSD developers have been on average a
> bit more clueful, but conservative, and far fewer in number; they would
> move steadily and slowly using the techniques that had served well for
> 20 years running. Linux developers were much greater in number, and had
> far greater energy and enthusiasm, but tended not to be as experienced.
>
> So BSD development would approach the, er, victim and slowly but surely
> crush him to death in a vise grip, and Linux developers would swarm over
> him in a dizzy blur, rapidly stripping flesh from bone.
>
> Of course this is changing with time; linux has in the last 5 years
> received a _lot_ of attention from very, very clueful people. If you
> read the linux-kernel mailing list, there's still a lingering taste of
> the old rabid weasel days, but it's very clear how high the general
> level of clue is (what's most amazing to me is the sheer number of
> people posting regularly to that list who are about 500 times smarter
> than I am :-/).

quote:

---

> Arguable, yes, but only at the expense of stability and robustness. It's
> a well known adage that when a BSD developer writes a device driver he
> starts grokking the hardware. The linux developer starts by writing a 3D
> accelerated swoopy installer with transparency effects and phong shading
>
>

quote:

---

>
>
>
> Me?
>

quote:

---

> I use consoles for playing games.
>

quote:

---

>
>
>
> What a load of bollocks. There are a lot of hobbyists and tinkerers
> *playing* with linux and reinstalling every five minutes, sure. Mac
> users tend to use the machine to perform a task, rather than as
> something to tinker with.

quote:

---

>
>
>
>
> Until, of course, the gui tool doesn't work properly, at which point you
> realise the much vaunted linux filesystem standard is a beast of myth.

quote:

---

> Sir Chewbury Gubbins wrote:
>
> There's no reason Linux *has* to have a bloated window manager, there
> are hundreds to choose from. People just like KDE because it is easy
> and has great features, not to mention it comes with loads of software.
> Same for Gnome, I guess, although I always thought Gnome was ugly and
> didn't handle virtual desktops very well.