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| herzogzwei@gmail.com 2005-03-30, 6:35 pm |
| no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
400k allocated for Europe.
http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
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<herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112222594.377369.60700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
> 400k allocated for Europe.
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> http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
It makes sense to not manufacture anymore if shops have plenty. But I am
not sure it is a wise decision in the long term. The xbox still has a good
few years in it yet. Obviously they will be pushing customers to the next
xbox, what will happen to game development for the current xbox?
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<herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
> 400k allocated for Europe.
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> http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
Oh hang on, its Spong, I shall await confirmation from better resources :-)
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| Phil Da Lick! 2005-03-30, 9:54 pm |
| herzogzwei@gmail.com wrote:
quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
> 400k allocated for Europe.
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> http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
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That says to me that XB2 may be backwards compatible. Either that or a
huge disregard for their valued third parties is on the cards.
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| Hank the Rapper 2005-03-30, 9:54 pm |
| herzogzwei@gmail.com wrote:
quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left
> worldwide, 400k allocated for Europe.
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> http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
You're a real XXXXing sociopath, Cygnus. First you post this as news in your
"shootemup" moniker. Then you change you name (for the 356th time) and make
it a troll post.
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| HockeyTownUSA 2005-03-30, 9:54 pm |
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<herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112222594.377369.60700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
> 400k allocated for Europe.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
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I'd be surprised if they weren't working on a slimmer, smaller, lighter
model like PS2 did.
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| Jordan 2005-03-31, 3:50 am |
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Beck wrote:
quote:
> <herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112222594.377369.60700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
worldwide,[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> It makes sense to not manufacture anymore if shops have plenty. But
I am
quote:
> not sure it is a wise decision in the long term. The xbox still has
a good
quote:
> few years in it yet. Obviously they will be pushing customers to the
next
quote:
> xbox, what will happen to game development for the current xbox?
Hey, at least they aren't trying to sell 10 year old hardware as "new"
(PSOne). All this means is that the new Xbox will be out this year, no
bones about it.
- Jordan
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| Doug Jacobs 2005-03-31, 3:50 am |
| In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Beck <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
quote:
> It makes sense to not manufacture anymore if shops have plenty. But I am
> not sure it is a wise decision in the long term. The xbox still has a good
> few years in it yet. Obviously they will be pushing customers to the next
> xbox, what will happen to game development for the current xbox?
Plenty?
The shops near my place have zero Xboxs for sale. I'm talking Frys, Best
Buy, EBGames, Toys R Us... Costco had a few bundles last month, so I
bought one (came with KOTOR, extra controller, DVD thingie, and useless
KOTOR guide) The guy at EBGames was stumped why he didn't have any. He
said they were gettting maybe 1 every few weeks - and it was sold before
they got it off the truck. He offered to put me on the waiting list, but
there were 6 others on the list already.
It definitely doesn't seem like there's a shortage of interest to me. And
if they do have 2mil Xboxes laying around, it certainly seems they could
sell a portion of them..?
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| <herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
> 400k allocated for Europe.
Shit, Glad I have 2!
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| NightSky 421 2005-03-31, 3:50 am |
| "Beck" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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quote:
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> It makes sense to not manufacture anymore if shops have plenty. But I am
> not sure it is a wise decision in the long term. The xbox still has a
good
quote:
> few years in it yet. Obviously they will be pushing customers to the next
> xbox, what will happen to game development for the current xbox?
>
Since the original Xbox has an established user base, and the new Xbox
obviously won't at first, game development for the original Xbox should not
be an issue for a while.
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| Doug Jacobs 2005-03-31, 3:50 am |
| In alt.games.video.xbox Phil Da Lick! <phil_the_lickWHOHATESSPAMESOREMOVETHECAPS@hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:
> That says to me that XB2 may be backwards compatible. Either that or a
> huge disregard for their valued third parties is on the cards.
This *is* Microsoft we're talking about here. They don't seem to grok the
console market at all.
Even if XBox360 is backwards compatible, what are folks supposed to do -
wait 6 months before buying a console? Microsoft *does* realize that new
console sales means more game sales, right? I mean, even if Xbox360 was
backwards compatible, and I was going to wait to get one, I wouldn't be
buying any XBox stuff until then. And in the meantime, I'd continue buying
games for the consoles I already had.
However, based on the few details that have been released about XBox360,
it seems *very* unlikely to me that it'll be backwards compatible - at
least, not the version that'll launch later this year. The wacky
Xbox360/Media Center *might* be able to pull it off, but that wasn't
slated for release until next year. And, let's face it, who's going to
still be selling Xbox games by then if there aren't any XBox consoles to
be had between now and then?
Well, maybe this will drive game prices down faster on Xbox. Maybe Halo
will finally go to $20 like it was supposed to have 2 years ago...
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| Doug Jacobs 2005-03-31, 3:50 am |
| In alt.games.video.xbox HockeyTownUSA <magma@killspam.comcast.net> wrote:
quote:
> I'd be surprised if they weren't working on a slimmer, smaller, lighter
> model like PS2 did.
I think it's too late for such a thing. Assuming XBox360 launches this
october or so, that'd realistically give Xbox until 4th quarter next year
- at best - before the market is all but dried up. I know PSOnes were
still selling for a long time after PS2 launched, but I think that market
too basically dried up after the PS2 had been out for a year, and hit its
first price drop. Even then, PS2 was backwards compatible, so there was
more of a reason to squeeze out a few last PS1 games. If XBox360 isn't
backwards compatible, most people are just going to buy the new console
which forces them totally ignore the older Xbox games. (Not that this
will be that big of a deal - Xbox360's game lineup so far reads like the
Xbox's current lineup, incremented by 1.)
I also don't think it'd be financially smart to retool and rerelease the
XBox. Wouldn't that require Intel and nVidia to work on redesigning their
chips - both of which are a good 5 years old now? I'm not saying it's
impossible, but given the expense I can't see them being able to save that
much on manufacturing to make it a viable product - unless they don't mind
continuing to lose money on essentially a 5 year old product...
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| Zackman 2005-03-31, 3:50 am |
| Hank the Rapper wrote:
quote:
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> You're a real XXXXing sociopath, Cygnus.
Sociopaths are generally quite intelligent. I think the clinical term you're
looking for here is "teat-suckling retard".
-Z-
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| Donald Richter 2005-03-31, 6:54 am |
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<herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112222594.377369.60700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
> 400k allocated for Europe.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
>
April fool, bilgefake.
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| Jacob Oost 2005-03-31, 9:46 pm |
| Doug Jacobs wrote:
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> Even if XBox360 is backwards compatible,
That will be very tricky considering the X-Box 2 will use a PowerPC. To
accomplish this they will either need some kind of emulation (which is
bound to *not* work, this is MS we're talking about), or include some
Intel hardware. Also, they are ditching the HD, according to all the
rumors (though this may have been confirmed). No, I don't think the XB2
will be backwards compatible, as backwards compatibility was never much
of an issue with them on their PC OSes (some games that worked on 98
does not work on XP, that's crazy).
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| Blig Merk 2005-03-31, 9:46 pm |
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Phil Da Lick! wrote:
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> herzogzwei@gmail.com wrote:
worldwide,[vbcol=seagreen]
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> That says to me that XB2 may be backwards compatible. Either that or
a
quote:
> huge disregard for their valued third parties is on the cards.
That is wishful thinking based on what ATI has already stated about not
being able to be backwardly compatible with the specialized Geforce3
that was in the XFLop. Besides, what are you smoking, it must be some
good stuff. This is Microsoft we are talking about here. They have
absolutely no problem abandoning a particular piece of hardware and
replacing it with a new model that doesn't work the same way as the
previous model. They have a well established past record of this. Not
only that, they have even less problem abandoning third party
developers. They are viewed as leeches anyway, riding on the back of an
elephant. Maybe XFLops aren't being pulled from retail shelves but that
doesn't necessarily mean they haven't stopped production. That sounds
quite possible from the news that is coming out. They are still losing
quite a bit of money for every box they produce, so it is in their
financial interest to stop production at this point and cruise on
whatever positive cash is coming in from the sale of game software.
This does leave a lot of developers in the lurch if their schedule had
them coming out with an original XFLop game sometime next year. Even
this probably plays into Microsoft hands, since they also have a well
established past track record of swallowing up software companies when
they are pivoting between success and failure. No, it is pretty clear
that Microsoft is betting on the next generation for them to get a
foothold in the console market. It is kind of humorous that the world
domination rhetoric has died down to almost a squeaking rat sound
though.
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| Zackman 2005-04-01, 3:47 am |
| Blig Merk wrote:
quote:
> Not only that, they have even less problem abandoning third
> party developers.
No console maker works more closely with developers than Microsoft. Feel
free to ask any developer who has dealt with MS, and they will happily
confirm that. MS knows they're in the underdog position and have to bend
over backwards to please developers.
quote:
> They are viewed as leeches anyway, riding on the
> back of an elephant.
Maybe in your secret society treehouse in your mom's backyard, yeah. Not so
much in the real world, I'm afraid.
God, I can't believe we have to endure yet another console generaiton of
your paranoid schizophrenic assXXXXery. I think at some point before the
Xbox 360 launch I'm going to have to compile a Bligmerk FAQ with all of your
hilariously inaccurate Xbox doom and gloom predictions, just so the
newcomers to the newsgroup know how batshit you are.
-Z-
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| Phil Da Lick! 2005-04-01, 5:48 pm |
| Jacob Oost wrote:
quote:
> Doug Jacobs wrote:
>
>
>
> That will be very tricky considering the X-Box 2 will use a PowerPC. To
> accomplish this they will either need some kind of emulation (which is
> bound to *not* work, this is MS we're talking about), or include some
> Intel hardware. Also, they are ditching the HD, according to all the
> rumors (though this may have been confirmed). No, I don't think the XB2
> will be backwards compatible, as backwards compatibility was never much
> of an issue with them on their PC OSes (some games that worked on 98
> does not work on XP, that's crazy).
>
Then ceasing production of the XB is not a smart move - unless they have
advised game developers of it well in advance.
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| Doug Jacobs 2005-04-01, 9:48 pm |
| In alt.games.video.xbox Phil Da Lick! <phil_the_lick@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:
> Then ceasing production of the XB is not a smart move - unless they have
> advised game developers of it well in advance.
Like I said...this *IS* Microsoft we are talking about here.
I'd simply add this development to the pile of examples in which Microsoft
shows that they just don't understand the console market.
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| Phil Da Lick! 2005-04-07, 5:56 pm |
| Jacob Oost wrote:
quote:
> Doug Jacobs wrote:
>
>
>
> That will be very tricky considering the X-Box 2 will use a PowerPC. To
> accomplish this they will either need some kind of emulation (which is
> bound to *not* work, this is MS we're talking about), or include some
> Intel hardware. Also, they are ditching the HD, according to all the
> rumors (though this may have been confirmed). No, I don't think the XB2
> will be backwards compatible, as backwards compatibility was never much
> of an issue with them on their PC OSes (some games that worked on 98
> does not work on XP, that's crazy).
>
Then ceasing production of the XB is not a smart move - unless they have
advised game developers of it well in advance.
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| Doug Jacobs 2005-04-07, 5:56 pm |
| In alt.games.video.xbox Phil Da Lick! <phil_the_lick@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:
> Then ceasing production of the XB is not a smart move - unless they have
> advised game developers of it well in advance.
Like I said...this *IS* Microsoft we are talking about here.
I'd simply add this development to the pile of examples in which Microsoft
shows that they just don't understand the console market.
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<herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112222594.377369.60700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
> 400k allocated for Europe.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
Oh hang on, its Spong, I shall await confirmation from better resources :-)
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| HockeyTownUSA 2005-04-07, 5:56 pm |
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<herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112222594.377369.60700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
> 400k allocated for Europe.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
>
I'd be surprised if they weren't working on a slimmer, smaller, lighter
model like PS2 did.
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| Jordan 2005-04-07, 5:57 pm |
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Beck wrote:
quote:
> <herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112222594.377369.60700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
worldwide,[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> It makes sense to not manufacture anymore if shops have plenty. But
I am
quote:
> not sure it is a wise decision in the long term. The xbox still has
a good
quote:
> few years in it yet. Obviously they will be pushing customers to the
next
quote:
> xbox, what will happen to game development for the current xbox?
Hey, at least they aren't trying to sell 10 year old hardware as "new"
(PSOne). All this means is that the new Xbox will be out this year, no
bones about it.
- Jordan
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| Doug Jacobs 2005-04-07, 5:57 pm |
| In alt.games.video.xbox Phil Da Lick! <phil_the_lickWHOHATESSPAMESOREMOVETHECAPS@hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:
> That says to me that XB2 may be backwards compatible. Either that or a
> huge disregard for their valued third parties is on the cards.
This *is* Microsoft we're talking about here. They don't seem to grok the
console market at all.
Even if XBox360 is backwards compatible, what are folks supposed to do -
wait 6 months before buying a console? Microsoft *does* realize that new
console sales means more game sales, right? I mean, even if Xbox360 was
backwards compatible, and I was going to wait to get one, I wouldn't be
buying any XBox stuff until then. And in the meantime, I'd continue buying
games for the consoles I already had.
However, based on the few details that have been released about XBox360,
it seems *very* unlikely to me that it'll be backwards compatible - at
least, not the version that'll launch later this year. The wacky
Xbox360/Media Center *might* be able to pull it off, but that wasn't
slated for release until next year. And, let's face it, who's going to
still be selling Xbox games by then if there aren't any XBox consoles to
be had between now and then?
Well, maybe this will drive game prices down faster on Xbox. Maybe Halo
will finally go to $20 like it was supposed to have 2 years ago...
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| Zackman 2005-04-07, 5:57 pm |
| Hank the Rapper wrote:
quote:
>
> You're a real XXXXing sociopath, Cygnus.
Sociopaths are generally quite intelligent. I think the clinical term you're
looking for here is "teat-suckling retard".
-Z-
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| Donald Richter 2005-04-07, 5:57 pm |
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<herzogzwei@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112222594.377369.60700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> no more Xbox consoles will be produced. 2 million Xbox left worldwide,
> 400k allocated for Europe.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/5xko6
>
April fool, bilgefake.
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