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| Michael Cargill 2005-03-30, 6:35 pm |
| "Leon Dexter" <leondexterNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Michael Cargill" <mikementalist@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> You're re-wording the same arguement, and so am I. Let me try once more:
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> any videogame company in the world is going to claim to be "best",
Nintendo
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> is the only one with data to back it up in any way. Nobody else can claim
> the simple numbers in sales and critical acclaim that Nintendo can. Would
> that make you happy?
Well, if that's how you are going to try and define who is the best
developer then that is your own choice. But I find that anyone trying to
shoe horn their own definition of 'best' pretty ridiculous.
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> Yes, I'm sure. Nintendo sells more games than anyone else. How else are
> you going to determine the size of their fan base? Nintendo fans are only
a
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> "minority" if you count them against "everyone else". That's true of
every
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> other game company as well. You're thinking in terms of PS2 vs. Gamecube,
> when you need to be thinking Nintendo vs. Microsoft vs. Sony vs. Konami
vs.
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> EA...
> People don't buy PS2's to play Sony games, they buy them for a lot of
> reasons. But owning a Nintendo system for Nintendo's games is very
common.
Of course Nintendo is in a minority when you count them against everyone
else, that is precisley what I meant. So how can they be in a majority as
you say?
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> Among the people buying records that week, and out of the albums being
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> sure.
Only by subscribing to the 'popularity equals quality' line of thought.
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> That's not the same thing by a long shot. Ask me about total album
> sales, and you'll be a lot closer. Elvis, The Beatles, Michael Jackson,
the
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> Eagles, Garth Brooks, etc are the top-selling artists. And I'm sure if
you
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> did a poll of "Best Artist or Group", they'd be at the top. It's not hard
> to understand. You sure have a tough time grasping this.
No I am not - I just don't equal popularity to quality like you appear to.
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> Not "other people", everyone. Or at least everyone who cares. You are
> defining "best" as just your opinion. You STILL won't acknowledge that
> counting everyone's opinion means squat. That's pretty arrogant.
Of course 'best' is my opinion - if you asked me who I thought was best I
would tell you who I thought was personally the best. I wouldn't look at
sales figures or what everyone else thinks and decide it on that. I would
expect everyone who was asked the same question to respond in the same way -
how on earth is that arrogant?
If someone asked you who you thought the best developer was, would you say
Nintendo because you personally thought it or because of sales and critical
acclaim?
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> You are completely stuck on this. I'm not talking about individual
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> I'm talking about collective consensus. Will you please admit there even
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> such a thing? My god.
Yes there is collective consensus, but in terms of deciding who or what is
best it doesn't mean much.
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> Oh, give me a break. I'm counting everyone to get the majority in the
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> place. You can't have a majority without counting everyone. Now you're
> really grasping.
You don't really seem to have any idea of what majority you are even talking
about.
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