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crymad

2005-03-30, 6:35 pm



Leon Dexter wrote:
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> "crymad" <crymadSPAMBLOCK@xprt.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Okay, thanks. I didn't know that. I notice you clipped the
> part where I noted how most light gun game reviews mention Duck
> Hunt, though.


That's because it was a pack-in game for the NES and so naturally
is very well known. Doesn't make it the first. We're talking
innovation, remember? Speaking of which, feast your eyes on the
original "Duck Hunt", produced back when Nintendo was still just a
playing card company:

http://marvin3m.com/arcade/rayolit.htm
quote:

>
> And you didn't "trounce" me. We're having a discussion, not a
> chess match. I'm 32, and unlike most people on Usenet, I'm
> willing to have a civilized conversation. [...]


You're 32? This floors me, completely. If you were a teen, then
being misinformed about videogame history might be excusable. But
for crying out loud, Leon, you're old enough to have personally
experienced all these pre-NES videogame innovations.

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> What's this about "level of platforming?" Suddenly you've
> switched sides. I thought all that mattered was which came
> first? Game & Watch games aren't copied from Space Panic,
> they're original creations. The reverse is also true. But who
> gets the credit for the genre? Which game came out first?


Now I'm confused. I thought you were claiming Nintendo "invented
the platformer". Do those G&W's from 1980 incorporate
platform gaming elements? Here's the G&W list from 1980 again:

# 1980 - Ball
# 1980 - Flagman
# 1980 - Vermin
# 1980 - Fire
# 1980 - Judge

And as for home videogames, Pitfall for the Atari 2600 predates
SMB for NES.
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> So let me guess--you're another person who wants to attempt to
> claim that Nintendo has not been influential in the videogame
> industry. It's futile. You can pick at everything they've
> done, and probably find some reason why they shouldn't get
> credit for it, at least in your own mind. "The D-pad? The
> Romans used one on Jesus, it's been around for centuries!".
> [...]


No, I give Nintendo credit where credit is due. But let's not go
off the deep end and start attributing innovations to them when
the facts clearly indicate otherwise. By the way, some would say
the disc controller for the Intellivision is a precursor to the
contemporary D-pad, but I won't open up that can of worms.

--crymad
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