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| Michael Cargill 2005-03-30, 6:34 pm |
| "Leon Dexter" <leondexterNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Michael Cargill" <mikementalist@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> Sales
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> The PS2 doesn't "trounce" Nintendo in game sales. It trounces the
Gamecube
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> overall. Nintendo's games sell better than just about anything on the
PS2.
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> They sell more games every year than any other company. Every year. And
> that's not even including Pokemon.
With the PS2 trouncing the GC so much in sales, I think that it is fair to
say that there are more people wanting to play PS2 games than there are
people wanting to play Nintendo games. With so few games released on the GC
as a whole, it is easy for some GC games to sell well as their is less
competition. On the PS2, you have got people purchasing a far greater
library of games. More games get sold on the PS2, but these sales are
spread out amongst a greater number of titles.
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> They also have more critically acclaimed games than any other publisher.
> I don't know how often I'm going to have to point that out to you before
you
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> get it. Those are the only two ways of choosing "best" that are even
close
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> to being fair.
This isn't about being 'fair', this is about facts. Critical acclaim and
review scores is all down to personal opinion. 'Best' is not universal and
it cannot be universal, it is all down to opinion. Whilst you personally
can claim that Nintendo are the best developer, that does not make it a
fact. If it was a fact then no-one would be able to disagree with it.
It is like two people from different religions trying to claim that their
deity is the 'best' one or the 'right' one. Just because one religious
group is bigger than the other does not make them 'right'.
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> you
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> Right. Those are exactly the facts I was referring to--you are in the
> minority opinion. Just like an election, you lose, and even though you
> might not like who won, they still did.
Minority opinion? Are you sure? With the lower sales of the GC compared to
the PS2, I would say it is the Nintendo fans who are in the minority. On
the PS2 you have a greater number of people buying a huge selection of
games, whereas on the GC you have a far smaller number of people buying a
smaller selection of games.
In an election, one person being the winner does not mean that they are
actually the best person to lead to the country. How many times have you
looked at poll in a magazine or website for the top ten games as voted for
by readers and then totally disagreed with it? Who is in the minority in
cases like this, and who is wrong?
When the Spice Girls where number one, did that mean they were the best?
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> do
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> Because they make the "best" games--duh. And I've defined that so many
> times now that I'm sick of it. Let me try it from the other angle--your
> opinion is not what defines this. It only matters to you. Make your own
> list and hang it up, but you've been outvoted. Too bad.
You have only defined YOUR thoughts on what makes something the best. You
are basically saying that you define what is best based on what other people
think of something.
You cannot define what makes something the best, because it is purely down
to individual opinion. What I personally claim to be the best game will not
be the same as what you claim to be the best game. I could hand you a game
and claim it to be the best I have played this year, yet you could then say
that it was the worst game you have played this decade. Neither of us would
be wrong.
Something being the best is not down to sales, it is not down to critical
acclaim and it is certainly not down to votes - it is down to personal
opinion. Really, there is no such as 'best game' because not everyone would
think it is the best.
You state that I am in the minority and so I am wrong. Gaming on the whole
is a minority hobby and most people seem to think that it is a worthless
past time. Given that there are more people who don't play games than there
are people who do play games, does mean that we are all wrong? We are,
after all, in the minority.
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> opinion
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> Yeah, it's all down to opinion. But you think it's all down to YOUR
> opinion, whereas I'm willing to count everyone who has an opinion. Don't
> you think my way is a little more fair?
No I don't think it is all down to my opinion, and I have been quite clear
on this. You claim that I think my opinion is right - so what do you think
my opinion is?
I have repeatedly said that it is down to individual opinion. All along I
have been saying that you cannot define what the 'best' is because of this.
I have not even hinted at who I think is the best, yet you have repeatedly
told us what you think to be the best, and have been trying to justify why
you are 'right'.
You have not been counting everyones opinion at all, only those that you
think are in the majority. The majority is certainly not all, and you are
only going with it because in this particular instance it is conveniently
supporting what you believe.
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