Sega genesis - Virtua Racing tribute and comparison page is up!

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Virtua Racing tribute and comparison page is up!

Scott H

2005-01-07, 12:46 am

I've finished a page for viewing screenshots and movie files of all
three current versions of Virtua Racing, for the Genesis SVP cart chip,
Sega 32X, and Sega Saturn.

http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRCompare.htm
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/ -> Comparisons -> Virtua Racing

All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody who
cannot view this format, but the accuracy was so much higher, and the
file size so much lower than MPEG2 files, it just had to be done.
Comments and suggestions are welcome.

--
Scott

Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath

BelPowerslave

2005-01-07, 12:46 am

> I've finished a page for viewing screenshots and movie files of all

quote:

> three current versions of Virtua Racing, for the Genesis SVP cart chip,
> Sega 32X, and Sega Saturn.
>
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRCompare.htm
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/ -> Comparisons -> Virtua Racing
>
> All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody who
> cannot view this format, but the accuracy was so much higher, and the
> file size so much lower than MPEG2 files, it just had to be done.
> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>

Shame be unto thou....but then again, my PC is done, and rocks....so more power
to you. ;)

I am about to start messing with my All in Wonder card...going to do a complete
MK Fatality demo using MK1-3 on MATv2, MK Gold, MK Trilogy, MK:DA and MK:D.

Bel

--
Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/

"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II

Scott H

2005-01-07, 12:46 am

BelPowerslave wrote:

quote:

>
>
> Shame be unto thou....but then again, my PC is done, and rocks....so more power
> to you. ;)

Man, I fiddled with MPEG2 versions of each file for the better part of a
day, and ended up with interlace tearing, or artifacts, regardless, I
just had to do them wmv, you have to believe me!

;)

quote:

> I am about to start messing with my All in Wonder card...going to do a complete
> MK Fatality demo using MK1-3 on MATv2, MK Gold, MK Trilogy, MK:DA and MK:D.

Sounds awesome! I think it'll probably be a while before I do another
update like I've done this week, and it'll be great to see the activity.

quote:

> Bel

quote:

> --
> Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
>
> "...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
> - Marius, Diablo II
>
>

--
Scott

Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath

BelPowerslave

2005-01-07, 9:45 am

> > As I am just getting started on the whole video recording, and I am guessing you are using

quote:

>
> Not a problem, if you're sending e-mails and I don't reply right away,
> it's because I'm not getting them. Overall though, I set the video to
> highest quality for DVD recording, which is 720x480 resolution and the
> highest bit depth audio, and then I use OSS video converter on the same
> resolution, but 128 for the audio bitrate. I find that Shrinks MPEG2s
> down to almost a third their size. For wmv files, Windows Media 8 best
> quality based VBR for broadband is what I set it to, and that's the
> quality of the videos I have on my site right now.

Sounds good, will give it a shot tonight if I get around to it...might just start on that MK Demo
tonight...

Bel

--
Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/

"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II

Scott H

2005-01-07, 5:46 pm

Jonathan Young wrote:

quote:

> Scott,
>
> The newest ATI MMC has divx recording built in. As long as you have a
> Radeon version AIW, you can download and install the ATI MMC from
> www.ati.com Remember to download the capture drivers as well.
>
> P.S. If you have broadband, you can download one big file that
> includes all the drivers.

Spiffy, thanks for that!

--
Scott

Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath

Scott H

2005-01-07, 5:46 pm

Jonathan Young wrote:

quote:

> Scott,
>
> The newest ATI MMC has divx recording built in. As long as you have a
> Radeon version AIW, you can download and install the ATI MMC from
> www.ati.com Remember to download the capture drivers as well.
>
> P.S. If you have broadband, you can download one big file that
> includes all the drivers.

Oh, one other thing, how are the file sizes? The Mpeg 2 files are
freaking huge, if the DIVX ones are significantly larger than the wmv
files I've been making with OSS, it's kinda moot. I can currently get
20 seconds of excellent quality video and sound for 6-10MB.

Any help would be great, or I can just find out next time I'm recording
something.

Thanks,

--
Scott

Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath

Scott H

2005-01-09, 5:46 pm

Jonathan Young wrote:

quote:

> Scott,
>
> The newest ATI MMC has divx recording built in. As long as you have a
> Radeon version AIW, you can download and install the ATI MMC from
> www.ati.com Remember to download the capture drivers as well.
>
> P.S. If you have broadband, you can download one big file that
> includes all the drivers.

Spiffy, thanks for that!

--
Scott

Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath

Scott H

2005-01-09, 5:46 pm

Jonathan Young wrote:

quote:

> Scott,
>
> The newest ATI MMC has divx recording built in. As long as you have a
> Radeon version AIW, you can download and install the ATI MMC from
> www.ati.com Remember to download the capture drivers as well.
>
> P.S. If you have broadband, you can download one big file that
> includes all the drivers.

BelPowerslave

2005-01-10, 5:46 pm

> I've finished a page for viewing screenshots and movie files of all

quote:

> three current versions of Virtua Racing, for the Genesis SVP cart chip,
> Sega 32X, and Sega Saturn.
>
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRCompare.htm
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/ -> Comparisons -> Virtua Racing
>
> All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody who
> cannot view this format, but the accuracy was so much higher, and the
> file size so much lower than MPEG2 files, it just had to be done.
> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>

Joe Ottoson

2005-01-10, 5:46 pm

Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:9GBCd.25928$tG3.15834@trnddc02:

quote:

> I've finished a page for viewing screenshots and movie files of
> all
> three current versions of Virtua Racing, for the Genesis SVP cart
> chip, Sega 32X, and Sega Saturn.
>
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRCompare.htm
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/ -> Comparisons -> Virtua Racing
>
> All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody
> who
> cannot view this format, but the accuracy was so much higher, and the
> file size so much lower than MPEG2 files, it just had to be done.
> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>

Divx.

Nicholas Andrade

2005-01-13, 6:45 am

Joe Ottoson wrote:

quote:

> Divx.

I much prefer Xvid (though I primarily use Linux which factors in a
bit). For a side by side comparison, check out
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/codecs-203-1.htm. Also anyone running
Linux that's interested in transcoding video, be sure to check out
dvd::rip (be forewarned, transcode is a XXXXX to build). Results are
amazing though, beats anything I've done with Windows.

Nicholas Andrade

2005-01-13, 5:45 pm

Scott H wrote:

quote:

> Jonathan Young wrote:
>
>
>
> Oh, one other thing, how are the file sizes? The Mpeg 2 files are
> freaking huge, if the DIVX ones are significantly larger than the wmv
> files I've been making with OSS, it's kinda moot. I can currently get
> 20 seconds of excellent quality video and sound for 6-10MB.
>
> Any help would be great, or I can just find out next time I'm recording
> something.
>
> Thanks,
>

Both DivX & XVid can be set at various bit rates, you just need to find
th combo that works best. Personally I use about 1200Mbps for video and
let the original audio pass through (usually 128-192Kbps AC3 from a
DVD). Notice I am talking about bits per second, not bytes, so a 20
second clip would end up around 2.8MB (1200000*20)/(8*1048576). Also as
I mentioned in a previous post, I only encode to Xvid.

Jonathan Young

2005-01-14, 6:45 am

Hi Scott,

Sorry for the delayed reply. I just checked the daily recordings I
used to make of the Cartoon Network, and my file sizes for a 22 minute
640x480 video varied from 345MB to 398MB. I think the variance is due
to the different levels of compression, i.e. some scenes compress
better than others. The recordings were made with the latest ATI MMC
and an AIW Radeon 8500. So, if my math is correct, the 22 minute
equivalents in WMV using your figures would be 396MB to 660MB,
assuming you're also using 640x480. Let me know what you choose!

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:33:51 GMT, Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com>
wrote:

quote:

>Jonathan Young wrote:
>
>Oh, one other thing, how are the file sizes? The Mpeg 2 files are
>freaking huge, if the DIVX ones are significantly larger than the wmv
>files I've been making with OSS, it's kinda moot. I can currently get
>20 seconds of excellent quality video and sound for 6-10MB.
>
>Any help would be great, or I can just find out next time I'm recording
>something.
>
>Thanks,

Jonathan Young

2005-01-19, 12:46 am

quote:

>Jonathan Young wrote:
>
>Oh, one other thing, how are the file sizes? The Mpeg 2 files are
>freaking huge, if the DIVX ones are significantly larger than the wmv
>files I've been making with OSS, it's kinda moot. I can currently get
>20 seconds of excellent quality video and sound for 6-10MB.
>
>Any help would be great, or I can just find out next time I'm recording
>something.
>
>Thanks,

zikzak@tele2.fr

2005-01-19, 5:46 pm

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:38:34 GMT
Nicholas Andrade <sdnick484@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:

quote:

>Scott H wrote:
>Both DivX & XVid can be set at various bit rates, you just need to find
>th combo that works best. Personally I use about 1200Mbps for video and
> let the original audio pass through (usually 128-192Kbps AC3 from a
>DVD). Notice I am talking about bits per second, not bytes, so a 20
>second clip would end up around 2.8MB (1200000*20)/(8*1048576). Also as
>I mentioned in a previous post, I only encode to Xvid.

Hi,

Some examples of reencoding :

Original file is here http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRacingcomp/VRSVPBF.wmv
Size : 6.7 MB

Mpeg4 (cropped video) with MP3 : http://gameclash.org/bonus/VRSVPBF.avi
Size : 3.4 MB

OGG Theora (cropped video) : http://gameclash.org/bonus/VRSVPBF.ogg
Size : 1.9 MB

Use VLC player to play those videos (works great on MAC OS), it is available here : http://videolan.org/vlc

Regards
--
ZikZak

Ted

2005-01-20, 5:46 pm

zikzak@tele2.fr wrote:

quote:

>
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:38:34 GMT
> Nicholas Andrade <sdnick484@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Some examples of reencoding :
>
> Original file is here http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRacingcomp/VRSVPBF.wmv
> Size : 6.7 MB
>
> Mpeg4 (cropped video) with MP3 : http://gameclash.org/bonus/VRSVPBF.avi
> Size : 3.4 MB
>
> OGG Theora (cropped video) : http://gameclash.org/bonus/VRSVPBF.ogg
> Size : 1.9 MB
>
> Use VLC player to play those videos (works great on MAC OS), it is available here : http://videolan.org/vlc

I like VLC in theory, but it has real problems at various times. For
example, last I checked, I could not use VLC in the same boot as Safari
without causing a system crash. And that's pretty hard to do in Jaguar
usually. Since VLC is (or was) the only good way to play VCDs in OSX, I
liked using it, and some movies that use some codecs will play in it
when they won't in Quicktime, which again makes it useful. Since I like
to use Safari as my browser, however, VLC requires much more thought and
preparation to use than it did before I started using Safari.

zikzak@tele2.fr

2005-01-20, 5:46 pm

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:26:39 GMT
Ted <nospamforted@nospam.com> wrote:

quote:

>I like VLC in theory, but it has real problems at various times. For
>example, last I checked, I could not use VLC in the same boot as Safari
>without causing a system crash. And that's pretty hard to do in Jaguar
>usually. Since VLC is (or was) the only good way to play VCDs in OSX, I
>liked using it, and some movies that use some codecs will play in it
>when they won't in Quicktime, which again makes it useful. Since I like
>to use Safari as my browser, however, VLC requires much more thought and
>preparation to use than it did before I started using Safari.

Strange !
Use Firefox :-D

Else you can check mplayer for mac os, it is another great opensource multimedia player.
I use it a lot under GNU/Linux, because I'm not an addict of GUI.

Regards
--
ZikZak

Nicholas Andrade

2005-01-22, 9:46 pm

Ted wrote:

quote:

>
> zikzak@tele2.fr wrote:
>
>
>
> I like VLC in theory, but it has real problems at various times. For
> example, last I checked, I could not use VLC in the same boot as Safari
> without causing a system crash. And that's pretty hard to do in Jaguar
> usually. Since VLC is (or was) the only good way to play VCDs in OSX, I
> liked using it, and some movies that use some codecs will play in it
> when they won't in Quicktime, which again makes it useful. Since I like
> to use Safari as my browser, however, VLC requires much more thought and
> preparation to use than it did before I started using Safari.

VLC is alright, but I much prefer mplayer. I've never ran into an
unprotected format I couldn't play with mplayer and the codec package.
The Windows port is pretty good as well; but I've never tried it on a
Mac. You can find mplayer here:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html

Mothra

2005-02-03, 5:53 pm

Scott H wrote:

quote:

> I've finished a page for viewing screenshots and movie files of all
> three current versions of Virtua Racing, for the Genesis SVP cart chip,
> Sega 32X, and Sega Saturn.
>
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRCompare.htm
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/ -> Comparisons -> Virtua Racing
>
> All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody
> who cannot view this format, but the accuracy was so much higher, and
> the file size so much lower than MPEG2 files, it just had to be done.
> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>

I think you would get better results with an Archos AV400. It will
record to DivX at 2,500kbits/sec MPEG-4 video at 704x480 @ 25-30 fps. It
also accepts S-Video input. If you like, I can send you some sample files?