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Virtua Racing tribute and comparison page is up!
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| Scott H 2005-01-04, 5:46 pm |
| I've finished a page for viewing screenshots and movie files of all
three current versions of Virtua Racing, for the Genesis SVP cart chip,
Sega 32X, and Sega Saturn.
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRCompare.htm
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/ -> Comparisons -> Virtua Racing
All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody who
cannot view this format, but the accuracy was so much higher, and the
file size so much lower than MPEG2 files, it just had to be done.
Comments and suggestions are welcome.
--
Scott
Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
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| BelPowerslave 2005-01-04, 5:46 pm |
| > I've finished a page for viewing screenshots and movie files of all
quote:
> three current versions of Virtua Racing, for the Genesis SVP cart chip,
> Sega 32X, and Sega Saturn.
>
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRCompare.htm
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/ -> Comparisons -> Virtua Racing
>
> All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody who
> cannot view this format, but the accuracy was so much higher, and the
> file size so much lower than MPEG2 files, it just had to be done.
> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>
Shame be unto thou....but then again, my PC is done, and rocks....so more power
to you. ;)
I am about to start messing with my All in Wonder card...going to do a complete
MK Fatality demo using MK1-3 on MATv2, MK Gold, MK Trilogy, MK:DA and MK:D.
Bel
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Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II
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| Scott H 2005-01-05, 12:45 am |
| BelPowerslave wrote:
quote:
>
>
> Shame be unto thou....but then again, my PC is done, and rocks....so more power
> to you. ;)
Man, I fiddled with MPEG2 versions of each file for the better part of a
day, and ended up with interlace tearing, or artifacts, regardless, I
just had to do them wmv, you have to believe me!
;)
quote:
> I am about to start messing with my All in Wonder card...going to do a complete
> MK Fatality demo using MK1-3 on MATv2, MK Gold, MK Trilogy, MK:DA and MK:D.
Sounds awesome! I think it'll probably be a while before I do another
update like I've done this week, and it'll be great to see the activity.
quote:
> Bel
quote:
> --
> Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
>
> "...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
> - Marius, Diablo II
>
>
--
Scott
Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
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| Joe Ottoson 2005-01-05, 6:45 am |
| Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:9GBCd.25928$tG3.15834@trnddc02:
quote:
> I've finished a page for viewing screenshots and movie files of
> all
> three current versions of Virtua Racing, for the Genesis SVP cart
> chip, Sega 32X, and Sega Saturn.
>
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRCompare.htm
> http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/ -> Comparisons -> Virtua Racing
>
> All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody
> who
> cannot view this format, but the accuracy was so much higher, and the
> file size so much lower than MPEG2 files, it just had to be done.
> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>
Divx.
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| Scott H 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| Joe Ottoson wrote:
quote:
> Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:9GBCd.25928$tG3.15834@trnddc02:
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> Divx.
I'll look into it if you can point me in the right direction. The
software I'm using doesn't support it, so it's outside of what I've been
testing. I've been recording in MPEG 2 at 702x480 with the highest
quality audio ATI MMC would allow, then converting it with One Stop
Soft's video converter, which I've found to be very efficient file size
wise. Neither program supports Divx though.
--
Scott
Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
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| BelPowerslave 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| > > Shame be unto thou....but then again, my PC is done, and rocks....so more power
quote:
>
> Man, I fiddled with MPEG2 versions of each file for the better part of a
> day, and ended up with interlace tearing, or artifacts, regardless, I
> just had to do them wmv, you have to believe me!
>
> ;)
>
Well, the WMV encoder is actually pretty good, gives off some great quality...just
doesn't make it accessible to everyone out there. With WMP out on Mac OSX, and with
it actually not being too bad at all, you don't loose out on too many people viewing.
quote:
>
>
> Sounds awesome! I think it'll probably be a while before I do another
> update like I've done this week, and it'll be great to see the activity.
>
Yeah, I'm on overload myself, just thinking of everything I'd love to do now that I
can record video and such. So many things I'd love to do...
Bel
--
Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II
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| BelPowerslave 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| > > Divx.
quote:
>
> I'll look into it if you can point me in the right direction. The
> software I'm using doesn't support it, so it's outside of what I've been
> testing. I've been recording in MPEG 2 at 702x480 with the highest
> quality audio ATI MMC would allow, then converting it with One Stop
> Soft's video converter, which I've found to be very efficient file size
> wise. Neither program supports Divx though.
>
Yeah, that's the problem I'd imagine that you'd run into dealing with Divx.
Though, that Dr. Divx thing is supposed to be able to encode the video...so
maybe you could record it, then convert it when you're done editing? It's
$30....I wouldn't mind trying it out, as the Divx codec is available for all
operating OS's out there...seems there's even a demo for it. Might give this
a shot at the house at some point. My only real issue with Divx is that over
half the time, when I'm on some site that offers Divx video, it never seems
to work. WMP, QT, or whatever always seem to say something like "missing
codec" or some bullshit like that...
Bel
--
Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II
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| Scott H 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| BelPowerslave wrote:
quote:
>
>
> Yeah, that's the problem I'd imagine that you'd run into dealing with Divx.
> Though, that Dr. Divx thing is supposed to be able to encode the video...so
> maybe you could record it, then convert it when you're done editing? It's
> $30....I wouldn't mind trying it out, as the Divx codec is available for all
> operating OS's out there...seems there's even a demo for it. Might give this
> a shot at the house at some point. My only real issue with Divx is that over
> half the time, when I'm on some site that offers Divx video, it never seems
> to work. WMP, QT, or whatever always seem to say something like "missing
> codec" or some bullshit like that...
Yeah, that's been my problem as well. Anybody who wanted to use it
would have to then go find the codec to make it work, and then it still
may not work. You and I having the same problem with viewing DIVX seems
like a pretty good indicator that most viewers aren't going to have any
better luck.
quote:
> Bel
> --
> Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
>
> "...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
> - Marius, Diablo II
>
>
--
Scott
Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
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| Scott H 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| BelPowerslave wrote:
quote:
>
>
> Well, the WMV encoder is actually pretty good, gives off some great quality...just
> doesn't make it accessible to everyone out there. With WMP out on Mac OSX, and with
> it actually not being too bad at all, you don't loose out on too many people viewing.
Man, even blowing it up to full screen it looks just like it does in ATI
MMC playing straight off the system. And I just noticed that the
conversion actually downgraded the resolution to 320x240, but it looks
better than MPEG 2 at 702x480, that's pretty danged good. MPEG2 was
also more time consuming, because when I converted it to save file
space, the image quality darkened so much that I was going to have to go
into Ulead Videostudio to brighten it, which takes about 10 minutes a
video. WMV's going to be the way to go for the time being.....
quote:
>
>
>
> Yeah, I'm on overload myself, just thinking of everything I'd love to do now that I
> can record video and such. So many things I'd love to do...
You don't even have storage space limits anymore, you lucky dog. ;)
quote:
> Bel
> --
> Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
>
> "...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
> - Marius, Diablo II
>
>
--
Scott
Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
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| Chris F 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:57:09 GMT, Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com>
wrote:
quote:
> I've finished a page for viewing screenshots and movie files of all
>three current versions of Virtua Racing, for the Genesis SVP cart chip,
>Sega 32X, and Sega Saturn.
>
>http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/VRCompare.htm
>http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath/ -> Comparisons -> Virtua Racing
>
> All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody who
>cannot view this format, but the accuracy was so much higher, and the
>file size so much lower than MPEG2 files, it just had to be done.
>Comments and suggestions are welcome.
graphical comparisons aside, the 32X version was far and away the
best.
the megadrive/genesis was most technically impressive.
the saturn one was just plain awful. guess thats what you get when you
let Time Warner do the job......
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gamertag: chrisflynnuk
Live Line-up: RS3, RS3:BA, PGR2, Links04, SC:PT, Toca2, RSC2, MM3,
SWAT, MotoGP2, Burnout3, OutRun2(Demo), FSW
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| BelPowerslave 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| > > All of the movie files are in .wmv format, I apologize to anybody who
quote:
>
> graphical comparisons aside, the 32X version was far and away the
> best.
>
Agreed.
quote:
>
> the megadrive/genesis was most technically impressive.
>
Indeed...and the fastest of the bunch, due to the lower framerate.
quote:
>
> the saturn one was just plain awful. guess thats what you get when you
> let Time Warner do the job......
>
Yeah, it *should* have been near-perfect...plus the extras, but man, they somehow
managed to XXXX that one up, and bad. 
Bel
--
Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II
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| BelPowerslave 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| > > Well, the WMV encoder is actually pretty good, gives off some great quality...just
quote:
>
> Man, even blowing it up to full screen it looks just like it does in ATI
> MMC playing straight off the system. And I just noticed that the
> conversion actually downgraded the resolution to 320x240, but it looks
> better than MPEG 2 at 702x480, that's pretty danged good. MPEG2 was
> also more time consuming, because when I converted it to save file
> space, the image quality darkened so much that I was going to have to go
> into Ulead Videostudio to brighten it, which takes about 10 minutes a
> video. WMV's going to be the way to go for the time being.....
>
As I am just getting started on the whole video recording, and I am guessing you are using
an All in Wonder card as well, I may harass you for what you are finding are the best
settings for quality. I've been messing around with it, mostly trying to get around a sound
issue I was having, but have since conquered that and have been playing around with the
settings lately.
quote:
>
>
> You don't even have storage space limits anymore, you lucky dog. ;)
>
Well, I do have limits....they are just *way* higher than my previous limits. ;)
Bel
--
Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II
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| BelPowerslave 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| > > Yeah, that's the problem I'd imagine that you'd run into dealing with Divx.
quote:
>
> Yeah, that's been my problem as well. Anybody who wanted to use it
> would have to then go find the codec to make it work, and then it still
> may not work. You and I having the same problem with viewing DIVX seems
> like a pretty good indicator that most viewers aren't going to have any
> better luck.
>
Just to mess around, I downloaded the most recent Divx codec and watched some of
the Divx High-Res trailers...worked alright in both WMP and the actual Divx
player...there may be hope for this format yet. One thing though: Have you seen
the XXXXing system requirements to play some of those high-res trailer!? A XXXXing
P4 2.4ghz!? Goddamn....
Bel
--
Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II
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| Scott H 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| BelPowerslave wrote:
quote:
>
>
> As I am just getting started on the whole video recording, and I am guessing you are using
> an All in Wonder card as well, I may harass you for what you are finding are the best
> settings for quality. I've been messing around with it, mostly trying to get around a sound
> issue I was having, but have since conquered that and have been playing around with the
> settings lately.
Not a problem, if you're sending e-mails and I don't reply right away,
it's because I'm not getting them. Overall though, I set the video to
highest quality for DVD recording, which is 720x480 resolution and the
highest bit depth audio, and then I use OSS video converter on the same
resolution, but 128 for the audio bitrate. I find that Shrinks MPEG2s
down to almost a third their size. For wmv files, Windows Media 8 best
quality based VBR for broadband is what I set it to, and that's the
quality of the videos I have on my site right now.
quote:
>
>
>
> Well, I do have limits....they are just *way* higher than my previous limits. ;)
quote:
> Bel
>
> --
> Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
>
> "...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
> - Marius, Diablo II
>
>
--
Scott
Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
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| Scott H 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| BelPowerslave wrote:
quote:
>
>
> Agreed.
>
>
>
>
> Indeed...and the fastest of the bunch, due to the lower framerate.
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, it *should* have been near-perfect...plus the extras, but man, they somehow
> managed to XXXX that one up, and bad. 
I'm glad I have it, just for the framerate, draw distance and light
sourcing on the cars. But when it comes to playability, I stick to the
32X version. You just can't have a good racer if you can't do a quick
restart of a race after screwing up, it just breaks the flow up too
much. ;)
quote:
> Bel
> --
> Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
>
> "...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
> - Marius, Diablo II
>
>
--
Scott
Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
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| BelPowerslave 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| > > Yeah, it *should* have been near-perfect...plus the extras, but man, they somehow
quote:
>
> I'm glad I have it, just for the framerate, draw distance and light
> sourcing on the cars. But when it comes to playability, I stick to the
> 32X version. You just can't have a good racer if you can't do a quick
> restart of a race after screwing up, it just breaks the flow up too
> much. ;)
>
Yeah...I also like some of the new tracks, and new vehicles...
Bel
--
Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II
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| BelPowerslave 2005-01-05, 5:46 pm |
| > > As I am just getting started on the whole video recording, and I am guessing you are using
quote:
>
> Not a problem, if you're sending e-mails and I don't reply right away,
> it's because I'm not getting them. Overall though, I set the video to
> highest quality for DVD recording, which is 720x480 resolution and the
> highest bit depth audio, and then I use OSS video converter on the same
> resolution, but 128 for the audio bitrate. I find that Shrinks MPEG2s
> down to almost a third their size. For wmv files, Windows Media 8 best
> quality based VBR for broadband is what I set it to, and that's the
> quality of the videos I have on my site right now.
Sounds good, will give it a shot tonight if I get around to it...might just start on that MK Demo
tonight...
Bel
--
Whip XXX Gaming: http://www.whipassgaming.com/
"...we traveled together...east, always into the east."
- Marius, Diablo II
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| Joe Ottoson 2005-01-06, 6:45 am |
| Scott H <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in news:alTCd.11848$1U6.5583
@trnddc09:
quote:
> Joe Ottoson wrote:
anybody[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I'll look into it if you can point me in the right direction. The
> software I'm using doesn't support it, so it's outside of what I've
been
quote:
> testing. I've been recording in MPEG 2 at 702x480 with the highest
> quality audio ATI MMC would allow, then converting it with One Stop
> Soft's video converter, which I've found to be very efficient file
size
quote:
> wise. Neither program supports Divx though.
>
>
V dub. You can get all the requisie tools and codecs on www.divx.com.
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| Joe Ottoson 2005-01-06, 6:45 am |
| BelPowerslave <belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in
news:41DC12A1.215241FC@ev1.net:
quote:
>
> Yeah, that's the problem I'd imagine that you'd run into dealing with
> Divx. Though, that Dr. Divx thing is supposed to be able to encode the
> video...so maybe you could record it, then convert it when you're done
> editing? It's $30....I wouldn't mind trying it out, as the Divx codec
> is available for all operating OS's out there...seems there's even a
> demo for it. Might give this a shot at the house at some point. My
> only real issue with Divx is that over half the time, when I'm on some
> site that offers Divx video, it never seems to work. WMP, QT, or
> whatever always seem to say something like "missing codec" or some
> bullshit like that...
You do need the proper divx codec to get them to play.
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| Jonathan Young 2005-01-06, 5:46 pm |
| Scott,
The newest ATI MMC has divx recording built in. As long as you have a
Radeon version AIW, you can download and install the ATI MMC from
www.ati.com Remember to download the capture drivers as well.
P.S. If you have broadband, you can download one big file that
includes all the drivers.
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