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| Scott H 2004-11-20, 12:45 am |
| I don't know whether many people knew about this awesome page, the last
time I saw it was back in 2001-2002, but it's got a *wealth* of
information on each of the Sega consoles and their competitors. My
brief console history page is absolutely dwarfed by this one. The Sega
Base page is also the only page online I've ever found any of the,
generally accepted as true, statements about internal Sega politics,
especially in regard to the decisions made for the Saturn and Dreamcast.
At any rate, I'd highly recommend all game fans read this site, as
it's definitely got a ton of good and unique info on it.
http://www.eidolons-inn.net/segabase/
--
Scott
Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
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| Nicholas Andrade 2004-11-20, 6:46 am |
| Scott H wrote:
quote:
> I don't know whether many people knew about this awesome page, the
> last time I saw it was back in 2001-2002, but it's got a *wealth* of
> information on each of the Sega consoles and their competitors. My
> brief console history page is absolutely dwarfed by this one. The Sega
> Base page is also the only page online I've ever found any of the,
> generally accepted as true, statements about internal Sega politics,
> especially in regard to the decisions made for the Saturn and Dreamcast.
> At any rate, I'd highly recommend all game fans read this site, as it's
> definitely got a ton of good and unique info on it.
>
> http://www.eidolons-inn.net/segabase/
>
>
That's awesome, it was a great resource. Is this a mirror or will there
be new content?
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| Scott H 2004-11-21, 12:46 am |
| Nicholas Andrade <sdnick484@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<nbCnd.20090$zx1.9822@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>...
quote:
> Scott H wrote:
> That's awesome, it was a great resource. Is this a mirror or will there
> be new content?
It looks like a mirror to me (I just found it, nobody let me know it
was up). It's got everything I've read before, nothing I don't recall
reading on there before, and the front page doesn't even have any
indication of Eidolon's Inn taking it over. I'm just glad it's up
again, it really is a great resource.
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| Captain Chaos 2004-11-21, 5:46 pm |
| I always loved the site. The detailed epic of the Saturn and Sega's fall
during the 32-bit wars is a compelling read. I only wished the third part of
the Dreamcast history would be finished. (It's not quite complete, with the
final hours of the DC from fall 2000 and the end only recounted breifly.)
In any case, PEACE!
9/9/99....A Day of Magic.
1/31/01.....A Day of Heartbreak.
5/19/05....The Dark Side will come! 
Capt C.
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| Scott H 2004-11-22, 12:47 am |
| Captain Chaos wrote:
quote:
> I always loved the site. The detailed epic of the Saturn and Sega's fall
> during the 32-bit wars is a compelling read. I only wished the third part of
> the Dreamcast history would be finished. (It's not quite complete, with the
> final hours of the DC from fall 2000 and the end only recounted breifly.)
This is actually where he started to lose me, it really starts to read
like he thought he had it all figured out, what they did wrong and that
internal politics was 100% the cause. I just didn't buy it I guess.
But it seemed like there was a lot of plain old market changes that they
didn't anticipate that contributed to the fall of the Saturn, more than
internal squables that the public had no idea where occuring.
quote:
> In any case, PEACE!
>
> 9/9/99....A Day of Magic.
>
> 1/31/01.....A Day of Heartbreak.
Quite literally.
quote:
> 5/19/05....The Dark Side will come!
?? Am I missing something on current events?
quote:
> Capt C.
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>
--
Scott
Game Pilgrimage
http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
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| Scott H 2004-11-27, 5:46 pm |
| Nicholas Andrade <sdnick484@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<nbCnd.20090$zx1.9822@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>...
quote:
> Scott H wrote:
> That's awesome, it was a great resource. Is this a mirror or will there
> be new content?
It looks like a mirror to me (I just found it, nobody let me know it
was up). It's got everything I've read before, nothing I don't recall
reading on there before, and the front page doesn't even have any
indication of Eidolon's Inn taking it over. I'm just glad it's up
again, it really is a great resource.
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| Captain Chaos 2004-11-27, 5:46 pm |
| I always loved the site. The detailed epic of the Saturn and Sega's fall
during the 32-bit wars is a compelling read. I only wished the third part of
the Dreamcast history would be finished. (It's not quite complete, with the
final hours of the DC from fall 2000 and the end only recounted breifly.)
In any case, PEACE!
9/9/99....A Day of Magic.
1/31/01.....A Day of Heartbreak.
5/19/05....The Dark Side will come!
Capt C.
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| MikeCouil 2004-11-30, 5:46 pm |
| Sega had some of the worst marketing I've ever seen in any business. Their
products have ALWAYS been superb. I was the only kid on the block with a Sega
Master system, which in my mind BLEW away all but the very last generation of
NES games (such as Dragon Warrior 3 and some of the other late games that were
really well designed). Problem was none of the other kids even knew the thing
existed.
Later I was the only one with a Genesis. Games like Populus, Madden, Phantasy
Star, Tecmo Superbowl , etc. were just so far ahead of what the SNES could do
it was amazing. But again, everyone had a SNES because of the power of the Big
N's marketing department. Street Fighter 2 had a LOT to do with it, but
besides that I can't think of any SNES game I'd rather play than the same
Genesis port, and as far as exclusive titles? I can't think of a single SNES
exclusive that beats it's Sega counterpart.
Along comes the DC. They had a GREAT opportunity with all the problems Sony
was having with their chips but once again marketing blew it. The commercials
of the guy screaming Sega at me made me want to throw up. Seaman, one of the
most innovative games ever, got a total of maybe 1.5 seconds of air time in a
30 second commercial while the rest of the time you had some crack addict on
ADD screaming at you. The problem was certainly not the system, it's
capabilities, the quality of games or lack of titles, or reviews.
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE marketing, plain and simple.
Mike
quote:
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>Captain Chaos wrote:
>of
>
> This is actually where he started to lose me, it really starts to read
>like he thought he had it all figured out, what they did wrong and that
>internal politics was 100% the cause. I just didn't buy it I guess.
>But it seemed like there was a lot of plain old market changes that they
>didn't anticipate that contributed to the fall of the Saturn, more than
>internal squables that the public had no idea where occuring.
>
>
>Quite literally.
>
>
>?? Am I missing something on current events?
>
>
>
>--
>Scott
>
>Game Pilgrimage
>http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
>
>
>
>
>
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MikeCouil wrote:
quote:
> Later I was the only one with a Genesis. Games like Populus, Madden, Phantasy
> Star, Tecmo Superbowl , etc. were just so far ahead of what the SNES could do
> it was amazing. But again, everyone had a SNES because of the power of the Big
> N's marketing department. Street Fighter 2 had a LOT to do with it, but
> besides that I can't think of any SNES game I'd rather play than the same
> Genesis port, and as far as exclusive titles? I can't think of a single SNES
> exclusive that beats it's Sega counterpart.
Mario Kart; I'm assuming there's a crappy cart racer on the Genny
somewhere that I'm not thinking of, otherwise it doesn't even have a
counterpart. (I do like Sonic Drift on the Game gear, tho). I like some
of the later Super Bomberman games more than Mega Bomberman; I may even
prefer Super Bomberman 2 to Mega Bomberman. The DBZ fighters on the SFC
vary in quality, but one or two of them are better than the MD DBZ game.
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| MikeCouil 2004-12-01, 12:46 am |
| Mario Kart was a GREAT GREAT party game. Forgot about that one
But as for me and my friends we would have played Road Rash over it any day of
the weak. We also had weekly Madden Tourney's so there just wasn't a whole lot
of time for Street Fighter and Mario Kart
Did anyone else keep a notebook full of all their "records" like we did? Or
were we the only ones geeky enough to do that? We had stuff like "longest QB
run from scrimmage" "Longest pass by running back". We had it all. I think
when they started keeping records we all almost had a heart attack, though we
still kept the obscure ones ourselves.
Mike
quote:
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>MikeCouil wrote:
>Phantasy
>do
>Big
>SNES
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>Mario Kart; I'm assuming there's a crappy cart racer on the Genny
>somewhere that I'm not thinking of, otherwise it doesn't even have a
>counterpart. (I do like Sonic Drift on the Game gear, tho). I like some
>of the later Super Bomberman games more than Mega Bomberman; I may even
>prefer Super Bomberman 2 to Mega Bomberman. The DBZ fighters on the SFC
>vary in quality, but one or two of them are better than the MD DBZ game.
>
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MikeCouil wrote:
quote:
> Later I was the only one with a Genesis. Games like Populus, Madden, Phantasy
> Star, Tecmo Superbowl , etc. were just so far ahead of what the SNES could do
> it was amazing. But again, everyone had a SNES because of the power of the Big
> N's marketing department. Street Fighter 2 had a LOT to do with it, but
> besides that I can't think of any SNES game I'd rather play than the same
> Genesis port, and as far as exclusive titles? I can't think of a single SNES
> exclusive that beats it's Sega counterpart.
Mario Kart; I'm assuming there's a crappy cart racer on the Genny
somewhere that I'm not thinking of, otherwise it doesn't even have a
counterpart. (I do like Sonic Drift on the Game gear, tho). I like some
of the later Super Bomberman games more than Mega Bomberman; I may even
prefer Super Bomberman 2 to Mega Bomberman. The DBZ fighters on the SFC
vary in quality, but one or two of them are better than the MD DBZ game.
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| MikeCouil 2004-12-03, 5:46 pm |
| Sega had some of the worst marketing I've ever seen in any business. Their
products have ALWAYS been superb. I was the only kid on the block with a Sega
Master system, which in my mind BLEW away all but the very last generation of
NES games (such as Dragon Warrior 3 and some of the other late games that were
really well designed). Problem was none of the other kids even knew the thing
existed.
Later I was the only one with a Genesis. Games like Populus, Madden, Phantasy
Star, Tecmo Superbowl , etc. were just so far ahead of what the SNES could do
it was amazing. But again, everyone had a SNES because of the power of the Big
N's marketing department. Street Fighter 2 had a LOT to do with it, but
besides that I can't think of any SNES game I'd rather play than the same
Genesis port, and as far as exclusive titles? I can't think of a single SNES
exclusive that beats it's Sega counterpart.
Along comes the DC. They had a GREAT opportunity with all the problems Sony
was having with their chips but once again marketing blew it. The commercials
of the guy screaming Sega at me made me want to throw up. Seaman, one of the
most innovative games ever, got a total of maybe 1.5 seconds of air time in a
30 second commercial while the rest of the time you had some crack addict on
ADD screaming at you. The problem was certainly not the system, it's
capabilities, the quality of games or lack of titles, or reviews.
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE marketing, plain and simple.
Mike
quote:
>
>Captain Chaos wrote:
>of
>
> This is actually where he started to lose me, it really starts to read
>like he thought he had it all figured out, what they did wrong and that
>internal politics was 100% the cause. I just didn't buy it I guess.
>But it seemed like there was a lot of plain old market changes that they
>didn't anticipate that contributed to the fall of the Saturn, more than
>internal squables that the public had no idea where occuring.
>
>
>Quite literally.
>
>
>?? Am I missing something on current events?
>
>
>
>--
>Scott
>
>Game Pilgrimage
>http://users4.ev1.net/~sheath
>
>
>
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