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| Sam Sloan 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| Paul Truong is The Fake Sam Sloan
The big mystery in chess over the past year and especially over the
just completed election period has been the identity of the Fake Sam
Sloan. The Fake Sam Sloan has been flooding the chess newsgroups and
especially rec.games.chess.politics with so many postings that it was
sometimes difficult for anyone to discuss anything else. There were
times when the Fake Sam Sloan would post 20 or 30 articles in a batch,
covering all of the active discussion topics so that is became
difficult to find the real discussions that were taking place.
Eventually, every regular viewer of the groups came to realize that
there was a Fake Sam Sloan posting and that there were certain
telltale signs to make it possible to distinguish between the Real Sam
Sloan and the Fake. For example, postings by the Real Sam Sloan were
usually long and literate. Postings by the Fake Sam Sloan were usually
short and obscene, often only one line long.
One problem was that there were imitators. At one point there seemed
to be four Fake Sam Sloans posting, each with a different writing and
posting style, so this made it even more difficult to distinguish the
Real Sam Sloan from the Fakes.
However, the other Fake Sam Sloans would usually lose interest and
quit after a short while. The Real Fake Sam Sloan continued
persistently for more than a solid year with no breaks, whereas the
Fake Fake Sam Sloans would quit after a week or two.
A break came when the Fake Sam Sloan abruptly stopped posting on July
4, 2006, a day when the real live Sam Sloan was in Philadelphia
handing out campaign literature to the voters and therefore could not
possibly be posting on the Internet. Then, on July 21, 2006, just
after the votes had finished being counted and it had been determined
that Sam Sloan had been elected, ChessPromotion, previously identified
as Paul Truong, started a barrage of postings attacking Sam Sloan,
often posting as many as 25 times in one day to the USCF Forums.
Although the style of writing and other things were different, one
similarity was the habit of filling up all the active discussion
topics with the same repetitions messages so that no other subject
could be discussed. Only the Fake Sam Sloan had done that and when
Paul Truong started doing the same thing, it suddenly became apparent
that Paul Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan.
That was not the only clue. Almost from the beginning, ever since July
17, 2005, Stan Booz and Neil Brennen had both been saying that Paul
Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan. However, since Booz and Brennen were
themselves suspected of being the Fake Sam Sloan, their postings were
discounted.
The first Fake Sam Sloan posting was on June 25, 2005 as
whocares@registerednurses.com from NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.2.156.67 .
That was just as the real live Sam Sloan was flying to Chicago to play
the Famous Grudge Match against Bill Brock. That Fake Sam Sloan
clearly knew that the Real Sam Sloan would be flying to Chicago and
would not be on the Internet at that point in time. That Fake Sam
Sloan seemed to be Ray Gordon. He posted 16 times from that address
and quit only three days later on June 28. He last posted from
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.2.156.242 .
Previously, somebody was posting from whocares@registerednurses.com
but as Ray Gordon, who wrote on June 18, 2005 from NNTP-Posting-Host:
4.237.38.175 : "What do you expect from scumbags like Booz and his
chief bull dyke Marinelle?"
This is the form of postings by the Fake Sam Sloan to the present. A
Google search of the word bulldyke (one word) will show that this word
has been used 41 times, always by the Fake Sam Sloan and always in
reference to Beatriz Marinello. Bull dyke (two words) had been used 73
times, always in reference to Beatriz Marinello.
Because there were nine postings from as whocares @
registerednurses.com and signed Ray Gordon from June 18 to June 24,
2005, but after that postings from as whocares@registerednurses.com
were signed Sam Sloan, this led everyone to conclude that the Fake
Sam Sloan was Ray Gordon. However, the Real Ray Gordon denied that
this was him, and it now seems obvious that that was a Fake Ray
Gordon. There were many other postings by a Fake Ray Gordon later on
and the Real Ray Gordon actually filed suit in federal court in the
Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Google about this. He lost
the case and the court's decision against him has become part of his
signature.
Previously, there were 22 unsigned posting from that same email
address. Most of them attacked Marinello as a Bull Dyke, but many of
them also attacked Goichberg, Channing and Hanke as well. One said:
"beatchess, goichberg, hanke, ES are all scumbags. Who gives a XXXX
about them?"
The next Fake Sam Sloan first posted on June 28, 2005 from
sloan@journalist.com and NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.2.156.214 and last
posted on December 17, 2005 from that address. He thereafter
immediately shifted over the sloan@whoever.com and started posting
from there. It was clearly the same fake, as the writing style and
content was the same.
On July 18, 2005, there was a posting from and NNTP-Posting-Host:
4.237.41.219 but signed StanB which said: "Sam, you're a scumbag. Do
you like 12 year old girls?"
This seemed to be something that the real Stan Booz would write,
leading many to conclude that Stan Booz was the Fake Sam Sloan.
Just six minutes later there was a posting from the same email address
but from NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.237.38.188 which said:" What about a
bulldyke like Marinello? Who does she have to play with?"
The last posting from sloan @ journalist .com was on January 11, 2006
and NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.69
The next Fake Sam Sloan seems to have been a different person. This
Fake Sam Sloan never attacked Marinello but attacked other people
instead, posting at sloan@whocares.com and NNTP-Posting-Host:
152.163.100.69 from only January 4 to January 11, 2006.
There have been several other Fake Sam Sloans, but they do not show
the characteristics of the main one, who most often calls Marinello a
bulldyke. For example there was samsloan@ishiipress.com (note the ii
in ishiipress) who only posted a few times.
The most recent Fake Sam Sloan is samsloan@usa.com This one first
posted on March 17, 2006 from NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.73 and
last posted on July 4, 2006 from NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.67 .
Here is that last posting:
"I left you alone for a few weeks and now you want to go crazy? Up
yours scumbag! You're history. Run XXXXXXX! I hate all the XXXXing
bull dykes in the USCF. They can all gag on my dick.
"Sam Sloan"
The latest Fake Sam Sloan had learned to delete his postings shortly
after they appeared. During the election period he would often post 20
or 30 per day. However, those that survive in some format were those
to which there was a response. Most regulars learned to just not
respond so that they would go away.
What is the proof that the main Fake Sam Sloan was all this time Paul
Truong?
In 2004, Paul Truong called me to inform me that Beatriz Marinello was
a lesbian. I told him that I did not believe it, as she had been
married to a prominent New York chess master. Truong replied that this
was just a green card marriage.
A consistent theme throughout these Fake Sam Sloan postings is that
Beatriz Marinello is a bulldyke. Most people have no care nor concern
about the private life of a chess player or anybody else for that
matter. Obviously the Fake Sam Sloan does.
The Fake Sam Sloan consistently has certain people that he attacks.
Most notable are Stan Booz and Neil Brennen. He also attacks Ray
Gordon and Tim Hanke.
So, one must look for someone who dislikes Sam Sloan, Beatriz
Marinello, Stan Booz, Neil Brennen, Ray Gordon and Tim Hanke.
Paul Truong is known to dislike all those people. There are few people
who dislike all of those people, especially since most people who like
Sam Sloan dislike Beatriz Marinello and most people who like Beatriz
Marinello dislike Sam Sloan.
There is the fact that the Fake Sam Sloan and the Real Paul Truong
often post as many as 25 times per day. Not many people have time for
that. Truong says that he is retired and apparently has lots of spare
time on his hands.
Truong has a long history of creating fake personalities. For example,
it is proven that he was "Bob Bennett" although he still denies this.
Paul Truong now posts as ChessPromotion to the USCF Forums and as
ChessMarketing to the Yahoo groups and never signs his real name.
Two of the primary targets of attack by the Fake Sam Sloan have stated
from the beginning that Paul Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan.
On July 17, 2005, Stan Booz wrote: "I don't; I think its your good
buddy PT."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec....68ac61336865660
On July 17, 2005, Neil Brennen wrote (obviously referring to Paul
Truong):
http://groups.google.com/group/rec....e427c17a?hl=en&
"> >http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
quote:
> OK. This is mildly interesting but does not prove much.
> sloan @ journalist.com (one of the fake posters) posts at 4.237.41.136
> According to the above website, that is in Flushing, NY.
"Doesn't a well-known female GM (recently praised in a press release
by an alleged ?co-worker as one of the three top GMs in the world) run
a chess school near Flushing? Didn't the male half of Trollgar like to
post under assumed names?"
Under the heading Who am I? In a posting that was soon thereafter
deleted, the Fake Sam Sloan provided a list of 11 persons who could
possibly be himself.
As chess master Bruce Leverett noted, the Fake Sam Sloan would have to
be a person whose name was not on the list and who has a history of
deleting his own postings.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec....6ab72bf6e8db6d0
Paul Truong fits both criteria.
Thus, it is proven that Paul Truong is the Fake Sam Sloan. All
evidence points to Truong. No evidence points in any other direction.
Truong had the knowledge, the resources, the motivation and the
capability to perpetuate this hoax. Being retired he has a lot of time
on his hands and the time and the resources to post as many as 25 of
these fake messages per day.
When all other possibilities have been excluded, the remaining one,
however improbable, must be the truth.
The Real Sam Sloan
| |
| mikeNOSPAM@theopenfile.com 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| Sam,
For someone who has argued before the US Supreme Court, you should know
better. You have absolutely no evidence that Paul is the "Faker". All
you have is innuendo and feeble circumstancial "evidence".
Give it up. Why should you care who impersonates you on this or any
other forum? You are on the USCF BOD. You should be paying attention
to the woes of the USCF, not your own petty ego.
And while I'm at it...
I'm a Life Member, as well as a Life Master. For a while I was being
considered for the position of Executive Director, but once the move to
Crossville was confirmed, I withdrew my name from consideration. Who
in the world would want to live there?
At any rate, my personal opinion is that the USCF membership will
finally get what it deserves since they have voted for you.
Exactly nothing.
- Mike Petersen
Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> Paul Truong is The Fake Sam Sloan
>
> The big mystery in chess over the past year and especially over the
> just completed election period has been the identity of the Fake Sam
> Sloan. The Fake Sam Sloan has been flooding the chess newsgroups and
> especially rec.games.chess.politics with so many postings that it was
> sometimes difficult for anyone to discuss anything else. There were
> times when the Fake Sam Sloan would post 20 or 30 articles in a batch,
> covering all of the active discussion topics so that is became
> difficult to find the real discussions that were taking place.
>
> Eventually, every regular viewer of the groups came to realize that
> there was a Fake Sam Sloan posting and that there were certain
> telltale signs to make it possible to distinguish between the Real Sam
> Sloan and the Fake. For example, postings by the Real Sam Sloan were
> usually long and literate. Postings by the Fake Sam Sloan were usually
> short and obscene, often only one line long.
>
> One problem was that there were imitators. At one point there seemed
> to be four Fake Sam Sloans posting, each with a different writing and
> posting style, so this made it even more difficult to distinguish the
> Real Sam Sloan from the Fakes.
>
> However, the other Fake Sam Sloans would usually lose interest and
> quit after a short while. The Real Fake Sam Sloan continued
> persistently for more than a solid year with no breaks, whereas the
> Fake Fake Sam Sloans would quit after a week or two.
>
> A break came when the Fake Sam Sloan abruptly stopped posting on July
> 4, 2006, a day when the real live Sam Sloan was in Philadelphia
> handing out campaign literature to the voters and therefore could not
> possibly be posting on the Internet. Then, on July 21, 2006, just
> after the votes had finished being counted and it had been determined
> that Sam Sloan had been elected, ChessPromotion, previously identified
> as Paul Truong, started a barrage of postings attacking Sam Sloan,
> often posting as many as 25 times in one day to the USCF Forums.
> Although the style of writing and other things were different, one
> similarity was the habit of filling up all the active discussion
> topics with the same repetitions messages so that no other subject
> could be discussed. Only the Fake Sam Sloan had done that and when
> Paul Truong started doing the same thing, it suddenly became apparent
> that Paul Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan.
>
> That was not the only clue. Almost from the beginning, ever since July
> 17, 2005, Stan Booz and Neil Brennen had both been saying that Paul
> Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan. However, since Booz and Brennen were
> themselves suspected of being the Fake Sam Sloan, their postings were
> discounted.
>
> The first Fake Sam Sloan posting was on June 25, 2005 as
> whocares@registerednurses.com from NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.2.156.67 .
> That was just as the real live Sam Sloan was flying to Chicago to play
> the Famous Grudge Match against Bill Brock. That Fake Sam Sloan
> clearly knew that the Real Sam Sloan would be flying to Chicago and
> would not be on the Internet at that point in time. That Fake Sam
> Sloan seemed to be Ray Gordon. He posted 16 times from that address
> and quit only three days later on June 28. He last posted from
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.2.156.242 .
>
> Previously, somebody was posting from whocares@registerednurses.com
> but as Ray Gordon, who wrote on June 18, 2005 from NNTP-Posting-Host:
> 4.237.38.175 : "What do you expect from scumbags like Booz and his
> chief bull dyke Marinelle?"
>
> This is the form of postings by the Fake Sam Sloan to the present. A
> Google search of the word bulldyke (one word) will show that this word
> has been used 41 times, always by the Fake Sam Sloan and always in
> reference to Beatriz Marinello. Bull dyke (two words) had been used 73
> times, always in reference to Beatriz Marinello.
>
> Because there were nine postings from as whocares @
> registerednurses.com and signed Ray Gordon from June 18 to June 24,
> 2005, but after that postings from as whocares@registerednurses.com
> were signed Sam Sloan, this led everyone to conclude that the Fake
> Sam Sloan was Ray Gordon. However, the Real Ray Gordon denied that
> this was him, and it now seems obvious that that was a Fake Ray
> Gordon. There were many other postings by a Fake Ray Gordon later on
> and the Real Ray Gordon actually filed suit in federal court in the
> Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Google about this. He lost
> the case and the court's decision against him has become part of his
> signature.
>
> Previously, there were 22 unsigned posting from that same email
> address. Most of them attacked Marinello as a Bull Dyke, but many of
> them also attacked Goichberg, Channing and Hanke as well. One said:
> "beatchess, goichberg, hanke, ES are all scumbags. Who gives a XXXX
> about them?"
>
> The next Fake Sam Sloan first posted on June 28, 2005 from
> sloan@journalist.com and NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.2.156.214 and last
> posted on December 17, 2005 from that address. He thereafter
> immediately shifted over the sloan@whoever.com and started posting
> from there. It was clearly the same fake, as the writing style and
> content was the same.
>
> On July 18, 2005, there was a posting from and NNTP-Posting-Host:
> 4.237.41.219 but signed StanB which said: "Sam, you're a scumbag. Do
> you like 12 year old girls?"
>
> This seemed to be something that the real Stan Booz would write,
> leading many to conclude that Stan Booz was the Fake Sam Sloan.
>
> Just six minutes later there was a posting from the same email address
> but from NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.237.38.188 which said:" What about a
> bulldyke like Marinello? Who does she have to play with?"
>
> The last posting from sloan @ journalist .com was on January 11, 2006
> and NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.69
>
> The next Fake Sam Sloan seems to have been a different person. This
> Fake Sam Sloan never attacked Marinello but attacked other people
> instead, posting at sloan@whocares.com and NNTP-Posting-Host:
> 152.163.100.69 from only January 4 to January 11, 2006.
>
> There have been several other Fake Sam Sloans, but they do not show
> the characteristics of the main one, who most often calls Marinello a
> bulldyke. For example there was samsloan@ishiipress.com (note the ii
> in ishiipress) who only posted a few times.
>
> The most recent Fake Sam Sloan is samsloan@usa.com This one first
> posted on March 17, 2006 from NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.73 and
> last posted on July 4, 2006 from NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.67 .
> Here is that last posting:
>
> "I left you alone for a few weeks and now you want to go crazy? Up
> yours scumbag! You're history. Run XXXXXXX! I hate all the XXXXing
> bull dykes in the USCF. They can all gag on my dick.
>
> "Sam Sloan"
>
> The latest Fake Sam Sloan had learned to delete his postings shortly
> after they appeared. During the election period he would often post 20
> or 30 per day. However, those that survive in some format were those
> to which there was a response. Most regulars learned to just not
> respond so that they would go away.
>
> What is the proof that the main Fake Sam Sloan was all this time Paul
> Truong?
>
> In 2004, Paul Truong called me to inform me that Beatriz Marinello was
> a lesbian. I told him that I did not believe it, as she had been
> married to a prominent New York chess master. Truong replied that this
> was just a green card marriage.
>
> A consistent theme throughout these Fake Sam Sloan postings is that
> Beatriz Marinello is a bulldyke. Most people have no care nor concern
> about the private life of a chess player or anybody else for that
> matter. Obviously the Fake Sam Sloan does.
>
> The Fake Sam Sloan consistently has certain people that he attacks.
> Most notable are Stan Booz and Neil Brennen. He also attacks Ray
> Gordon and Tim Hanke.
>
> So, one must look for someone who dislikes Sam Sloan, Beatriz
> Marinello, Stan Booz, Neil Brennen, Ray Gordon and Tim Hanke.
>
> Paul Truong is known to dislike all those people. There are few people
> who dislike all of those people, especially since most people who like
> Sam Sloan dislike Beatriz Marinello and most people who like Beatriz
> Marinello dislike Sam Sloan.
>
> There is the fact that the Fake Sam Sloan and the Real Paul Truong
> often post as many as 25 times per day. Not many people have time for
> that. Truong says that he is retired and apparently has lots of spare
> time on his hands.
>
> Truong has a long history of creating fake personalities. For example,
> it is proven that he was "Bob Bennett" although he still denies this.
>
> Paul Truong now posts as ChessPromotion to the USCF Forums and as
> ChessMarketing to the Yahoo groups and never signs his real name.
>
> Two of the primary targets of attack by the Fake Sam Sloan have stated
> from the beginning that Paul Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan.
>
> On July 17, 2005, Stan Booz wrote: "I don't; I think its your good
> buddy PT."
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec....68ac61336865660
>
> On July 17, 2005, Neil Brennen wrote (obviously referring to Paul
> Truong):
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec....e427c17a?hl=en&
>
> "> >http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
>
> "Doesn't a well-known female GM (recently praised in a press release
> by an alleged ?co-worker as one of the three top GMs in the world) run
> a chess school near Flushing? Didn't the male half of Trollgar like to
>
> post under assumed names?"
>
>
> Under the heading Who am I? In a posting that was soon thereafter
> deleted, the Fake Sam Sloan provided a list of 11 persons who could
> possibly be himself.
>
> As chess master Bruce Leverett noted, the Fake Sam Sloan would have to
> be a person whose name was not on the list and who has a history of
> deleting his own postings.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec....6ab72bf6e8db6d0
>
> Paul Truong fits both criteria.
>
> Thus, it is proven that Paul Truong is the Fake Sam Sloan. All
> evidence points to Truong. No evidence points in any other direction.
> Truong had the knowledge, the resources, the motivation and the
> capability to perpetuate this hoax. Being retired he has a lot of time
> on his hands and the time and the resources to post as many as 25 of
> these fake messages per day.
>
> When all other possibilities have been excluded, the remaining one,
> however improbable, must be the truth.
>
> The Real Sam Sloan
| |
| Ray Gordon 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| > For someone who has argued before the US Supreme Court, you should know
quote:
> better. You have absolutely no evidence that Paul is the "Faker". All
> you have is innuendo and feeble circumstancial "evidence".
At least he's laying out why he believes this, which is not the same as just
saying it and not saying why. What he's really doing is giving an opinion
or conclusion of his and why he reached it.
Though I have to say, all that fake/real Ray Gordon stuff has me questioning
myself! I didn't sue google over THAT fake Ray Gordon, btw, but I easily
could have.
quote:
> Give it up. Why should you care who impersonates you on this or any
> other forum? You are on the USCF BOD. You should be paying attention
> to the woes of the USCF, not your own petty ego.
>
> And while I'm at it...
>
> I'm a Life Member, as well as a Life Master. For a while I was being
> considered for the position of Executive Director, but once the move to
> Crossville was confirmed, I withdrew my name from consideration. Who
> in the world would want to live there?
>
> At any rate, my personal opinion is that the USCF membership will
> finally get what it deserves since they have voted for you.
>
> Exactly nothing.
Even so, would that be an improvement?
--
"Google maintains the USENET." -- The Honorable R. Barclay Surrick, Eastern
District of PA Judge
From Parker v. Google, E.D.Pa. #04-cv-3918
| |
| Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod) 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| mikeNOSPAM@theopenfile.com wrote:
quote:
> Why should you care who impersonates you on this or any
> other forum?
He loves this noonsense. In his mind it makes
him "notable" (pitiful as it sounds).
quote:
> You should be paying attention to the woes
> of the USCF, not your own petty ego.
That petty ego of his is the only thing
that he has ever cared about. All the
rest is auxiliary to him.
Wlod
| |
| parrthenon@cs.com 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| CASE NOT PROVEN
Sam has made a circumstantial case against Paul
Truong as the Fake Sam Sloan. He argues that the case
is true because he has managed to eliminate possible
alternatives such as a Neil Brennan or a Stan Booz.
I see no proof that Mr. Truong is the Fake Sam
Sloan; I see speculation. So, too, I still see no
proof that Sam Sloan has ever molested an unwilling
female -- underage or overage. I see speculation. I
see people drawing conclusions from inadequate
evidence.
Frankly, I found Sam's attempts to dismiss Stan
Booz as a possible miscreant to be weak. Like any
good rgcpist, Neil Brennan is filled with hatred and
bile, and he could sustain such a campaign
emotionally, though the capability to hate over a span
of months means little in terms of making a case.
There is a sickness in the Fake Sam Sloan, and I
don't find that sickness in Mr. Truong. Bill Brock or
Vinnie Hart may have the required emotional makeup
that somehow seems absent in Mr. Truong.
Still, my impressions of people unprove nothing,
just as Sam's long analyses prove nothing.
The truth is we still do not know the identity of
the Fake Sam Sloan(s).
| |
| Greg Wren 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| I just look at "File" and "Properties" and see if it was sent from
ishipress.
| |
| BarbaraVilliers 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> Paul Truong is The Fake Sam Sloan
>
> The big mystery in chess over the past year and especially over the
> just completed election period has been the identity of the Fake Sam
> Sloan. The Fake Sam Sloan has been flooding the chess newsgroups and
> especially rec.games.chess.politics with so many postings that it was
> sometimes difficult for anyone to discuss anything else. There were
> times when the Fake Sam Sloan would post 20 or 30 articles in a batch,
> covering all of the active discussion topics so that is became
> difficult to find the real discussions that were taking place.
>
> Eventually, every regular viewer of the groups came to realize that
> there was a Fake Sam Sloan posting and that there were certain
> telltale signs to make it possible to distinguish between the Real Sam
> Sloan and the Fake. For example, postings by the Real Sam Sloan were
> usually long and literate. Postings by the Fake Sam Sloan were usually
> short and obscene, often only one line long.
>
> One problem was that there were imitators. At one point there seemed
> to be four Fake Sam Sloans posting, each with a different writing and
> posting style, so this made it even more difficult to distinguish the
> Real Sam Sloan from the Fakes.
>
> However, the other Fake Sam Sloans would usually lose interest and
> quit after a short while. The Real Fake Sam Sloan continued
> persistently for more than a solid year with no breaks, whereas the
> Fake Fake Sam Sloans would quit after a week or two.
>
> A break came when the Fake Sam Sloan abruptly stopped posting on July
> 4, 2006, a day when the real live Sam Sloan was in Philadelphia
> handing out campaign literature to the voters and therefore could not
> possibly be posting on the Internet. Then, on July 21, 2006, just
> after the votes had finished being counted and it had been determined
> that Sam Sloan had been elected, ChessPromotion, previously identified
> as Paul Truong, started a barrage of postings attacking Sam Sloan,
> often posting as many as 25 times in one day to the USCF Forums.
> Although the style of writing and other things were different, one
> similarity was the habit of filling up all the active discussion
> topics with the same repetitions messages so that no other subject
> could be discussed. Only the Fake Sam Sloan had done that and when
> Paul Truong started doing the same thing, it suddenly became apparent
> that Paul Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan.
>
> That was not the only clue. Almost from the beginning, ever since July
> 17, 2005, Stan Booz and Neil Brennen had both been saying that Paul
> Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan. However, since Booz and Brennen were
> themselves suspected of being the Fake Sam Sloan, their postings were
> discounted.
>
> The first Fake Sam Sloan posting was on June 25, 2005 as
> whocares@registerednurses.com from NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.2.156.67 .
> That was just as the real live Sam Sloan was flying to Chicago to play
> the Famous Grudge Match against Bill Brock. That Fake Sam Sloan
> clearly knew that the Real Sam Sloan would be flying to Chicago and
> would not be on the Internet at that point in time. That Fake Sam
> Sloan seemed to be Ray Gordon. He posted 16 times from that address
> and quit only three days later on June 28. He last posted from
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.2.156.242 .
>
> Previously, somebody was posting from whocares@registerednurses.com
> but as Ray Gordon, who wrote on June 18, 2005 from NNTP-Posting-Host:
> 4.237.38.175 : "What do you expect from scumbags like Booz and his
> chief bull dyke Marinelle?"
>
> This is the form of postings by the Fake Sam Sloan to the present. A
> Google search of the word bulldyke (one word) will show that this word
> has been used 41 times, always by the Fake Sam Sloan and always in
> reference to Beatriz Marinello. Bull dyke (two words) had been used 73
> times, always in reference to Beatriz Marinello.
>
> Because there were nine postings from as whocares @
> registerednurses.com and signed Ray Gordon from June 18 to June 24,
> 2005, but after that postings from as whocares@registerednurses.com
> were signed Sam Sloan, this led everyone to conclude that the Fake
> Sam Sloan was Ray Gordon. However, the Real Ray Gordon denied that
> this was him, and it now seems obvious that that was a Fake Ray
> Gordon. There were many other postings by a Fake Ray Gordon later on
> and the Real Ray Gordon actually filed suit in federal court in the
> Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Google about this. He lost
> the case and the court's decision against him has become part of his
> signature.
>
> Previously, there were 22 unsigned posting from that same email
> address. Most of them attacked Marinello as a Bull Dyke, but many of
> them also attacked Goichberg, Channing and Hanke as well. One said:
> "beatchess, goichberg, hanke, ES are all scumbags. Who gives a XXXX
> about them?"
>
> The next Fake Sam Sloan first posted on June 28, 2005 from
> sloan@journalist.com and NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.2.156.214 and last
> posted on December 17, 2005 from that address. He thereafter
> immediately shifted over the sloan@whoever.com and started posting
> from there. It was clearly the same fake, as the writing style and
> content was the same.
>
> On July 18, 2005, there was a posting from and NNTP-Posting-Host:
> 4.237.41.219 but signed StanB which said: "Sam, you're a scumbag. Do
> you like 12 year old girls?"
>
> This seemed to be something that the real Stan Booz would write,
> leading many to conclude that Stan Booz was the Fake Sam Sloan.
>
> Just six minutes later there was a posting from the same email address
> but from NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.237.38.188 which said:" What about a
> bulldyke like Marinello? Who does she have to play with?"
>
> The last posting from sloan @ journalist .com was on January 11, 2006
> and NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.69
>
> The next Fake Sam Sloan seems to have been a different person. This
> Fake Sam Sloan never attacked Marinello but attacked other people
> instead, posting at sloan@whocares.com and NNTP-Posting-Host:
> 152.163.100.69 from only January 4 to January 11, 2006.
>
> There have been several other Fake Sam Sloans, but they do not show
> the characteristics of the main one, who most often calls Marinello a
> bulldyke. For example there was samsloan@ishiipress.com (note the ii
> in ishiipress) who only posted a few times.
>
> The most recent Fake Sam Sloan is samsloan@usa.com This one first
> posted on March 17, 2006 from NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.73 and
> last posted on July 4, 2006 from NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.67 .
> Here is that last posting:
>
> "I left you alone for a few weeks and now you want to go crazy? Up
> yours scumbag! You're history. Run XXXXXXX! I hate all the XXXXing
> bull dykes in the USCF. They can all gag on my dick.
>
> "Sam Sloan"
>
> The latest Fake Sam Sloan had learned to delete his postings shortly
> after they appeared. During the election period he would often post 20
> or 30 per day. However, those that survive in some format were those
> to which there was a response. Most regulars learned to just not
> respond so that they would go away.
>
> What is the proof that the main Fake Sam Sloan was all this time Paul
> Truong?
>
> In 2004, Paul Truong called me to inform me that Beatriz Marinello was
> a lesbian. I told him that I did not believe it, as she had been
> married to a prominent New York chess master. Truong replied that this
> was just a green card marriage.
>
> A consistent theme throughout these Fake Sam Sloan postings is that
> Beatriz Marinello is a bulldyke. Most people have no care nor concern
> about the private life of a chess player or anybody else for that
> matter. Obviously the Fake Sam Sloan does.
>
> The Fake Sam Sloan consistently has certain people that he attacks.
> Most notable are Stan Booz and Neil Brennen. He also attacks Ray
> Gordon and Tim Hanke.
>
> So, one must look for someone who dislikes Sam Sloan, Beatriz
> Marinello, Stan Booz, Neil Brennen, Ray Gordon and Tim Hanke.
>
> Paul Truong is known to dislike all those people. There are few people
> who dislike all of those people, especially since most people who like
> Sam Sloan dislike Beatriz Marinello and most people who like Beatriz
> Marinello dislike Sam Sloan.
>
> There is the fact that the Fake Sam Sloan and the Real Paul Truong
> often post as many as 25 times per day. Not many people have time for
> that. Truong says that he is retired and apparently has lots of spare
> time on his hands.
>
> Truong has a long history of creating fake personalities. For example,
> it is proven that he was "Bob Bennett" although he still denies this.
>
> Paul Truong now posts as ChessPromotion to the USCF Forums and as
> ChessMarketing to the Yahoo groups and never signs his real name.
>
> Two of the primary targets of attack by the Fake Sam Sloan have stated
> from the beginning that Paul Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan.
>
> On July 17, 2005, Stan Booz wrote: "I don't; I think its your good
> buddy PT."
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec....68ac61336865660
>
> On July 17, 2005, Neil Brennen wrote (obviously referring to Paul
> Truong):
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec....e427c17a?hl=en&
>
> "> >http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
>
> "Doesn't a well-known female GM (recently praised in a press release
> by an alleged ?co-worker as one of the three top GMs in the world) run
> a chess school near Flushing? Didn't the male half of Trollgar like to
>
> post under assumed names?"
>
>
> Under the heading Who am I? In a posting that was soon thereafter
> deleted, the Fake Sam Sloan provided a list of 11 persons who could
> possibly be himself.
>
> As chess master Bruce Leverett noted, the Fake Sam Sloan would have to
> be a person whose name was not on the list and who has a history of
> deleting his own postings.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec....6ab72bf6e8db6d0
>
> Paul Truong fits both criteria.
>
> Thus, it is proven that Paul Truong is the Fake Sam Sloan. All
> evidence points to Truong. No evidence points in any other direction.
> Truong had the knowledge, the resources, the motivation and the
> capability to perpetuate this hoax. Being retired he has a lot of time
> on his hands and the time and the resources to post as many as 25 of
> these fake messages per day.
>
> When all other possibilities have been excluded, the remaining one,
> however improbable, must be the truth.
>
> The Real Sam Sloan
Sam
I'm certain your analysis is correct. This site was bombarded by Truong
posting as me (another person he dislikes) about 18 months ago when I
left Chess Live. The guy is a half wit and loves flooding forums with
spam. He is incapable of attacking openly using his name but has to
either hide behind an alias or post as a Fake. Miserable little coward
that he is.
Louise
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| Chess One 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
|
<parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1154398892.350310.15820@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> CASE NOT PROVEN
>
> Sam has made a circumstantial case against Paul
> Truong as the Fake Sam Sloan. He argues that the case
> is true because he has managed to eliminate possible
> alternatives such as a Neil Brennan or a Stan Booz.
But what is Proven, Mr. Parr, is that Sam Sloan is not showing any
indications of being a useful member of the board, since what we wanted was
to end the news-blackout. If his choice to continue making rather
speculatory charges, then what is not speculated upon will become diluted to
such a degree that it will be greatly reduced in value.
Mr. Sloan needs to get it into his head that people wanted more straight
talk about on-going USCF issues than they were accustomed to hearing from
the Board or Jerry Hanken - who is not exactly a replacement 'critic' for
Larry Evans.
I don't assess any other reason that he became elected.
In this current 'practice' period of managing chess we have seen a variety
of distortions based on exaggeration of his own role in the affairs of the
Polgars - combined with this rather simple animus disliking of their current
manager.
Sloan needs to focus on just a few tasksw he can accomplish in the next 12
months, and he he will achieve them. If they have no beneficial effect on
the future [as this melee with Polgars has not] he will distract himself
silly, and in a couple of months prove himself useless as a chess manager.
He has some other potential, not as a rather outre personality type, but in
playing the /role/ of inside reporter and in addressing /vital/ business -
which I would say is identified by whatever should form a foundation and
superstructure in support of chess USA in the future.
I think he has not understood this as the reason he was elected, nor as the
only basis, as I see it, for continued interest in himself.
Phil Innes
..
quote:
> I see no proof that Mr. Truong is the Fake Sam
> Sloan; I see speculation. So, too, I still see no
> proof that Sam Sloan has ever molested an unwilling
> female -- underage or overage. I see speculation. I
> see people drawing conclusions from inadequate
> evidence.
>
> Frankly, I found Sam's attempts to dismiss Stan
> Booz as a possible miscreant to be weak. Like any
> good rgcpist, Neil Brennan is filled with hatred and
> bile, and he could sustain such a campaign
> emotionally, though the capability to hate over a span
> of months means little in terms of making a case.
>
> There is a sickness in the Fake Sam Sloan, and I
> don't find that sickness in Mr. Truong. Bill Brock or
> Vinnie Hart may have the required emotional makeup
> that somehow seems absent in Mr. Truong.
>
> Still, my impressions of people unprove nothing,
> just as Sam's long analyses prove nothing.
>
> The truth is we still do not know the identity of
> the Fake Sam Sloan(s).
>
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| SAM MUST REMAIN AN OUTSIDER
Dear Phil,
Yes, the main reason Sam got elected was his
promise to air dirty political linen. I could not agree
more. And you have read my jeremiads to him about not
becoming a clubman if he wishes to have a future in
USCF political office.
I disagree with the notion that Sam fails to
understand the politics of his position. I think he
has the reality figured pretty well: the insiders
want to jolly him along for a year, thence into
obscurity after he disappoints his supporters.
AND/OR: the insiders will try to provoke Sam
in some fashion to provide fodder for banning
him from Board meetings.
To be fair to Sam, he is not yet on the Board and
will not be in much of a position to get financial data
until after he joins the Board at the U.S. Open in the
second week of August.
Sam need not fear losing votes by 6 -1. Such
results will not necessarily help the incumbents.
What he must fear is never losing votes by 6 - 1. Lev
Alburt lost a record number of such votes and left the
Board as one of its most respected members. Moreover,
several key sections of Lev's agenda later became
Federation policy.
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<parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1154485037.256944.137590@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> SAM MUST REMAIN AN OUTSIDER
>
> Dear Phil,
>
> Yes, the main reason Sam got elected was his
> promise to air dirty political linen. I could not agree
> more.
Oh, Sam got elected? As Tony the Tiger would say,that's GRRRRRRRReat!!!
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| Nomen Nescio 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| Larry Parr wrote...
quote:
> Yes, the main reason Sam got elected was
because folk didn't use the Google before voting. Also, some ex-politicos
thought the cruellest revenge they could inflict on the incumbency would be
to support Sam's candidacy and so inflict him on them.
quote:
> his promise
not to ever remove content from his website, which promise he has now
spectacularly broken.
quote:
> the insiders will try to provoke Sam in some fashion
, just like Lim, Daa and the other young kids did.
quote:
> To be fair to Sam, he is not yet on the Board and
to be fair to the USCF membership, he never will be.
quote:
> Sam need not fear losing votes
except when in August the delegates opt for a revote (ADM05-24 - DM05-29)
quote:
> Sam is a very honorable and trustworthy gentleman as
might be judged from
http://www.samsloan.com/christianna.htm
Well done, Larry. Your head is right up your XXX, Larry. As always,
Larry. When they are older, Larry, your own kids will learn about your
character from your partnership with and endorsement of Sam Sloan and his
activities. Your wife will learn about this a bit earlier, Larry. At least
Sam commands some respect, while you, Larry, summon only disdain and
contempt. I agree with Vince and others that you are far too pathetic to
waste any hatred on, Larry. Your sole entertainment value - the bombast,
obfuscation and convenient blindness ceasing to amuse quite quickly - is
that you, Larry, genuinely seem to believe that you are both sophisticated
and droll, while the reality is that you, Larry, are crass, crude and
utterly, boringly predictable on almost every issue. I'd forgive you the
rest, Larry, but never the boredom.
What a failure you are as a man, Larry. As your chess is so rusty now,
Larry, and you don't even appreciate the Damiano, why not go the whole nine
yards and put your daughter on a plane to NY so that Uncle Sam can teach
her about her openings?
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| Sherlock Bones 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| X-No-archive: yes
"Nomen Nescio" < why not go the whole nine yards and put your daughter on a
plane to NY so that Uncle Sam can teach her about her openings?
quote:
>
Talking about being crass and crude. The best thing about the Chess ngs is
that nobody seems to realize that Sam Sloan is probably the cream of the
crud. You skumz all deserve each other.
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| Chess One 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
|
<parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1154485037.256944.137590@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> SAM MUST REMAIN AN OUTSIDER
>
> Dear Phil,
>
> Yes, the main reason Sam got elected was his
> promise to air dirty political linen. I could not agree
> more. And you have read my jeremiads to him about not
> becoming a clubman if he wishes to have a future in
> USCF political office.
Dear Larry,
While I even endorse your comments, all of them, to Sam, he still needs to
rise to them. But his current behavior is more of the risible sort!
Therefore the potential exists to do well, but the warm-up period is
uncertainly beneficial to anything that furthers us, at least inasmuch as it
is far too speculatory, and, it must be said, mean in spirit.
As a private punter he was at liberty to settle what old scores he felt
moved to contest - but I shall make this difference with you, that as a
public figure those things are indulgences.
To be fair to Sloan, I never saw a politician in real life in the UK or US
that looked like they could lead the country. But on taking office, the
sober responsibility to act for all evoked an opportunity to intelligently
reform one's perspectives - this is almost universally observable. The
opportunity now exists, and it is no measure at all that others have not
taken it.
But this is not my test, it is his.
Cordially, Phil Innes
quote:
> I disagree with the notion that Sam fails to
> understand the politics of his position. I think he
> has the reality figured pretty well: the insiders
> want to jolly him along for a year, thence into
> obscurity after he disappoints his supporters.
> AND/OR: the insiders will try to provoke Sam
> in some fashion to provide fodder for banning
> him from Board meetings.
>
> To be fair to Sam, he is not yet on the Board and
> will not be in much of a position to get financial data
> until after he joins the Board at the U.S. Open in the
> second week of August.
>
> Sam need not fear losing votes by 6 -1. Such
> results will not necessarily help the incumbents.
> What he must fear is never losing votes by 6 - 1. Lev
> Alburt lost a record number of such votes and left the
> Board as one of its most respected members. Moreover,
> several key sections of Lev's agenda later became
> Federation policy.
>
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| Since I have known Paul Troung it is obvious that the loser met Paul
personally and was a total jerk and Paul let him have it. Maybe Sam
Sloan realized that Paul wasn't a pushover or maybe the real faker tried
to push Paul around and got reamed. As for accusing Paul as being the
fake Sam Sloan is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. This clown who
has been faking posts has got to be the one who posted that Sam Sloan
said terrible things about Kamsky. Like I said Sam is a degenerate but
he would never say things like that about Kamsky. But this fake poster
must have met Paul for him to post like this. And Paul embarrassed him.
And probably deservedly so.
EZoto
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| Sherlock Bones 2006-08-03, 2:52 am |
| "EZoto" <> Since I have known Paul Troung it is obvious that the loser met
Paul
quote:
> personally and was a total jerk and Paul let him have it.>>
Paul's homosexual lover speaks out.
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