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| Taylor Kingston 2005-09-13, 8:33 pm |
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Sam Sloan wrote:
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> I have created a Wikipedia page about George Koltanowski.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Koltanowski
A minor question. The entry says: "However, after about only 25
moves, Keres abruptly stopped the game and declared Keres the winner by
adjudication." Is this accurate? How could Keres unilaterally
adjudicate and declare himself the winner? Adjudications are supposed
to be done by an impartial third party.
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| Skeptic 2005-09-13, 8:33 pm |
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"Taylor Kingston" <tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote in message
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> Sam Sloan wrote:
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> A minor question. The entry says: "However, after about only 25
> moves, Keres abruptly stopped the game and declared Keres the winner by
> adjudication." Is this accurate? How could Keres unilaterally
> adjudicate and declare himself the winner? Adjudications are supposed
> to be done by an impartial third party.
In an official tournament (or postal) game, of course; not necessarily, I
suppose, in an exhibition game between a master and a collection of
amateurs. Perhaps what Sam means is that Keres at that point showed them how
his position is winning by citing variations, or something similar.
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| Catalan 2005-09-13, 8:33 pm |
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"Taylor Kingston" <tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote in message
news:1126613637.199488.28720@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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> A minor question. The entry says: "However, after about only 25
> moves, Keres abruptly stopped the game and declared Keres the winner by
> adjudication." Is this accurate? How could Keres unilaterally
> adjudicate and declare himself the winner? Adjudications are supposed
> to be done by an impartial third party.
You sound somewhat dazed and confused by the accuracy of something Sam
wrote. You must be new here.
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| Sam Sloan 2005-09-18, 3:31 am |
| At 04:28 PM 9/17/2005 GMT, worldrecord@juno.com wrote:
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>For an answer to your question, there is rather weak limerick in Koltanowski's
>Chess Annual 1955. Three fictitious names ending in -owski are mentioned
> in the first line, then "Would you trust any of them with your house key?"
>That explains why they're blindfolding him -- "the chess-playing crack Koltanowski."
Back then there were a lot of recent immigrants with uncertain
backgrounds.
quote:
>I think Mr. Colton would not want be be mistaken for a chess master with
>perhaps no certain means of supporting himself. He was Belgian and
>perhaps in the diamond business.
The answer just hit me. It is obvious and I should have thought of it
before.
Koltanowski was originally Polish-Jewish. When his family moved to
Belgium they took a Belgium-type name, shortening Koltanowski to
Colton. Colton is of course pronounced the same as Koltan.
When he started touring the world giving simultaneous blindfold
exhibitions, it was better to use his original family name of
Koltanowski rather than the less-interesting name of Colton.
Therefore, his real legal name was George Colton and George
Koltanowski was essentially a stage name.
What I have stated is just my theory, but it sounds right and I
believe that it will be proven true.
Sam Sloan
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| Sam Sloan 2005-09-18, 8:32 pm |
| On 18 Sep 2005 06:18:02 -0700, "Taylor Kingston"
<tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote:
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>Sam Sloan wrote:
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> Still waiting for an answer to this question, Sam. The entry still
>says: "However, after about only 25 moves, Keres abruptly stopped the
>game and declared Keres the winner by adjudication." Is this really
>correct? How could Keres unilaterally adjudicate and declare himself
>the winner? Adjudications are supposed to be done by an impartial third
>party.
>
Go to the public library in San Francisco and look at issues of the
San Francisco Chronicle on Microfilm. You will see it published there.
It might also be in other newspapers around the country that carried
Kolty's column.
Funny thing, John Donaldson shows a complete game. I am sure that is
NOT the game as published in the San Francisco Chronicle. I wonder
where Donaldson got the game from.
Sam Sloan
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| Taylor Kingston 2005-09-18, 8:32 pm |
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Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> Go to the public library in San Francisco and look at issues of the
> San Francisco Chronicle on Microfilm. You will see it published there.
> It might also be in other newspapers around the country that carried
> Kolty's column.
A cross-country trip is not practical for me right now. However, I
contacted IM John Donaldson in San Francisco. Unfortunately, he does
not know about any "adjudication" that may have occurred. He thinks
perhaps Keres just saw no point in continuing further.
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> Funny thing, John Donaldson shows a complete game. I am sure that is
> NOT the game as published in the San Francisco Chronicle. I wonder
> where Donaldson got the game from.
Here is the game score as provided by Donaldson. It shows 41 moves,
rather than the "about 25" of your wikipedia entry.
Koltanowski,G - Keres,P D71
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.g3 Bg7 4.Bg2 d5 5.cxd5 Nxd5 6.e4 Nb4 7.d5 c6 8.Ne2
cxd5 9.a3 Qa5 10.0-0 d4 11.Nxd4 N4c6 12.Nxc6 Nxc6 13.Bd2 Qd8 14.Nc3 0-0
15.Be3 Be6 16.f4 Bc4 17.Rf2 Bxc3 18.bxc3 Qa5 19.e5 Rfd8 20.Qe1 Bd5
21.Bf1 Qa4 22.Rb2 b6 23.Bf2 Bb3 24.Bg2 Rac8 25.Bxc6 Rxc6 26.Bd4 Bd5
27.Qd1 Qa6 28.Rd2 Qc8 29.Qf1 Rc4 30.h3 h5 31.f5 Qxf5 32.Qxf5 gxf5
33.Kf2 Bb7 34.Rb2 e6 35.Rb4 Rdxd4 36.cxd4 Rc2+ 37.Ke3 Rc3+ 38.Kf4 Kg7
39.Kg5 Rxg3+ 40.Kxh5 Rxh3+ 41.Kg5 Rg3+ 0-1
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| Sam Sloan 2005-09-19, 12:32 am |
| On 18 Sep 2005 15:07:49 -0700, "Taylor Kingston"
<tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote:
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>Sam Sloan wrote:
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> A cross-country trip is not practical for me right now. However, I
>contacted IM John Donaldson in San Francisco. Unfortunately, he does
>not know about any "adjudication" that may have occurred. He thinks
>perhaps Keres just saw no point in continuing further.
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>
> Here is the game score as provided by Donaldson. It shows 41 moves,
>rather than the "about 25" of your wikipedia entry.
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>Koltanowski,G - Keres,P D71
>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.g3 Bg7 4.Bg2 d5 5.cxd5 Nxd5 6.e4 Nb4 7.d5 c6 8.Ne2
>cxd5 9.a3 Qa5 10.0-0 d4 11.Nxd4 N4c6 12.Nxc6 Nxc6 13.Bd2 Qd8 14.Nc3 0-0
>15.Be3 Be6 16.f4 Bc4 17.Rf2 Bxc3 18.bxc3 Qa5 19.e5 Rfd8 20.Qe1 Bd5
>21.Bf1 Qa4 22.Rb2 b6 23.Bf2 Bb3 24.Bg2 Rac8 25.Bxc6 Rxc6 26.Bd4 Bd5
>27.Qd1 Qa6 28.Rd2 Qc8 29.Qf1 Rc4 30.h3 h5 31.f5 Qxf5 32.Qxf5 gxf5
>33.Kf2 Bb7 34.Rb2 e6 35.Rb4 Rdxd4 36.cxd4 Rc2+ 37.Ke3 Rc3+ 38.Kf4 Kg7
>39.Kg5 Rxg3+ 40.Kxh5 Rxh3+ 41.Kg5 Rg3+ 0-1
I am aware of this, but that was NOT the game that was published in
the San Francisco Chronicle back in about 1965.
I was living in Berkeley then so I know. John Donaldson was still in
Philadelphia.
Sam Sloan
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