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George John is Running for USCF Executive Board Again!!
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| Sam Sloan 2005-01-08, 5:46 pm |
| On 7 Jan 2005 12:07:40 -0800, george@neosoft.com wrote:
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>All,
>
>I apologize for the late response. I haven't visited rgcp in a while.
Sorry to see you here. Kindly go crawl back under the rock where you
came from. The last time you came here you brought in the era where
the USCF lost two million dollars. How much will you lose for us this
time?
quote:
>Sam Sloan wrote:
>George
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>Sam Sloan is incorrect. The report was written by Myron Lieberman.
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>Confirmed by whom? Certainly, not by me. I remain a steadfast
>independent, one who agrees or disagrees based on facts and not the
>person.
Nobody familiar with your record says that you are independent. I
suppose that now you are going to claim that you are not a member of
the Beatriz Marinello Gang.
quote:
>
>This is of course a matter of opinion. The field of computers is so
>broad than even the top experts in the field likely know only a tiny
>percentage of all that could be known about computing, and could be
>said to know "very little" about computers.
>
>That said, I have been gainfully employed, full-time, as a software
>developer since late 1970's. For about 12 of those years I was also
>the system/network administrator for a small engineering firm;
>although, that role consumed a small percentage of my time. I am proud
>of my work, what I have learned, and accomplished.
Kindly name one software program that you have worked on.
How does working in a used furniture store (your full time job, when
you were not dabbling with computers) qualify you to be on the USCF
Executive Biard?
quote:
>
>Certainly worth reading again is the report Myron submitted. A copy
>can be found at
>http://georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/...puter/USCL3.htm
>
>The middle of it deals with the so-called "spyware" issue.
Thank you for providing this. Here is a direct quote. Would anyone
allow this software into their computer after reading the following,
written by Myron Lieberman:
"Games Parlor arranged with Conducent to be a replacement for
Radiate as a provider of ads. They made it clear that the "Spyware"
method used by Radiate was unacceptable. Conducent's "Timesink"
software normally does include a similar executable file, however
Conducent agreed to use a version of their software that did not
include that file. When the USCL client software is downloaded the
license agreement discloses that the Internet connection may be used
by the Conducent software to transfer information and reference is
made to Conducent's privacy statement, which can be found at
(http://www.conducent.com/privacy/index.html). The Conducent privacy
statement indicates that it may collect non-personally identifiable
information over the user's Internet connection. It is written in a
vague enough way to where there could be real concerns over what is
not said. Please keep in mind, however, that this privacy statement is
written to apply to all versions of the software, not just the version
used with USCL.
"Conducent, like Radiate and many other companies, has been
under fire as a supplier of "spyware". Privacy oriented web sites such
as www.grc.com/output.htm, www.lavasoft.de, and others refer to
Conducent/Timesink software as "spyware", primarily because of the
executable file that is not included with the USCL client. Message
boards such as Usenet newsgroup alt.privacy.spyware and
www.cookiecentral.com/board.htm. are worth checking for those that
want to learn more in general about privacy on the Internet."
quote:
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>or Sam Sloan? ;-)
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>IIRC, the Michigan Attorney General's issue was the lack of disclosure
>by a software company that was using the Conducent technology and did
>NOT follow Conducent's requirements (at the time I downloaded the
>Conducent SDK and reviewed it) for proper disclosure.
>Best regards,
>
>George
Are you claiming that Conducent was not put out of business and faced
with criminal charges? If so, what is their address?
Just because you allowed Conducent software into your computer, do you
believe that the rest of us would have allowed it in, had we known
what it contained?
Sam Sloan
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| Sam Sloan 2005-01-08, 5:46 pm |
| Somebody go wake up Tom Dorsch and tell him we need him here now,
URGENTLY!!
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"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
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> Somebody go wake up Tom Dorsch and tell him we need him here now,
> URGENTLY!!
Why? Did your old lady cut you off?
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| George John 2005-01-08, 5:46 pm |
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"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:41dff2c0.6674390@ca.news.verio.net...
quote:
> On 7 Jan 2005 12:07:40 -0800, george@neosoft.com wrote:
All,
-snip-
quote:
> Kindly name one software program that you have worked on.
Nearly all of my work is custom software development. It has often been
highly proprietary and confidential in nature. I have often worked on
projects that were considered cutting edge technology in the oil business.
My work has not been on shrink-wrapped applications that you buy off the
shelf.
But, I can give you one that I wrote every line of, which I donated to the
USCF free of charge, and have supported free of charge:
http://www.georgejohn.bcentralhost....a/perfrate.html
Another one is http://georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/tca/ktable.htm which was
written to help people to print out something they could take to events to
estimate rating changes while away from a computer.
These are relatively simple applications. My current projects have tens of
thousands of line of code in them.
-snip-
quote:
> Are you claiming that Conducent was not put out of business and faced
> with criminal charges? If so, what is their address?
I am making no such claim. I was only referring to the Michigan AG case
that was previously discussed on rgcp long ago.
quote:
> Just because you allowed Conducent software into your computer, do you
> believe that the rest of us would have allowed it in, had we known
> what it contained?
I wouldn't begin to claim to know what everyone else would allow or not.
While it is true that the Conducent software didn't particularly bother me
at the time since there had been something like 8 million downloads with it
and no reports of any ACTUAL problems that I could find on the Web anywhere,
I think people are entitled to their opinions and concerns, and the USCF's
pardner could have done a much better job with disclosure, particularly
earlier on in the project.
BTW, the decision to go with Conducent was made without my knowledge. I was
strongly opposed to the Radiate technology and refused to run any software
with it. Maybe they though I would strongly oppose the Conducent
technology, too, and decided to keep me out of the loop. Their business
model depended on advertising revenue, and maybe they didn't want to risk
the chair of the USCF Internet/Computer Committee coming out in opposition
to the Conducent technology, too.
I think a bigger problem for USCL in its beginning was releasing the
software (over my objections) without an automated registration system
(something that finally was added about a year later), and without
sufficient, adequately trained support volunteer administrators. I think
this caused a big labor problem for the USCF office and diverted their staff
away from much more important work IMO.
Best regards,
George John
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| Hui Neng 2005-01-09, 12:46 am |
| "George John" It has often been highly proprietary and confidential in
nature. >>
Sounds like a load of bullshit. So how did you lose One Million Dollars of
USCF money? Why aren't you in prison?? What reason do you have for returning
to the USCF? Are you interested in stealing the money that is left?? Are you
incompetent?? Why are you back??
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Hui Neng wrote:
quote:
> "George John" It has often been highly proprietary and confidential
in
quote:
> nature. >>
>
> Sounds like a load of bullshit. So how did you lose One Million
Dollars of
quote:
> USCF money? Why aren't you in prison?? What reason do you have for
returning
quote:
> to the USCF? Are you interested in stealing the money that is left??
Are you
quote:
> incompetent?? Why are you back??
Neng,
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| Tom Klem 2005-01-09, 12:46 am |
| You meet the nicest people on this newsgroup.
<ugh>
--
Tom Klem
"There are two kinds of people, those who do the work and those who take the
credit. Try to be in the first group; there is less competition there."
---Indira Gandhi
"Hui Neng" <HuiLewis@philosophy.com> wrote in message
news:R7_Dd.32764$6i.24177@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
quote:
> "George John" It has often been highly proprietary and confidential in
> nature. >>
>
> Sounds like a load of bullshit. So how did you lose One Million Dollars of
> USCF money? Why aren't you in prison?? What reason do you have for
returning
quote:
> to the USCF? Are you interested in stealing the money that is left?? Are
you
quote:
> incompetent?? Why are you back??
>
>
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| Hui Neng 2005-01-09, 12:46 am |
| "Rob" <robmtchl@msn.com>> You have been TOS'ed:
I guess not, dickless piece of trash.
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Hui Neng wrote:
quote:
> "Rob" <robmtchl@msn.com>> You have been TOS'ed:
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> I guess not, dickless piece of trash.
Better watch out. Your mommy is going to take away your computer and
put you to bed in dirty diapers baby boy. You have such a potty
mouth.Use of profanity is a strong indication of a poor vocabulary and
a weak intellect. Care to prove my point further?
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| Hui Neng 2005-01-09, 12:46 am |
| "Rob" <Care to prove my point further?>
quote:
>
Why don't you answer the question? Why are you sniffing around the USCF? Why
do you have so much information about Crossville?? What is your stake in all
of this??
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| Spam Scone 2005-01-09, 12:46 am |
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Rob wrote:
quote:
> Use of profanity is a strong indication of a poor vocabulary and
> a weak intellect. Care to prove my point further?
Rob, guess which of your rgcp friends wrote the following?
"I must remind any reader here that the person who writes this
describes
himself as an 'historian', but one who has apparently read XXXX-all."
"But still you XXXX with the subject, lol!!"
"Louis, this is boring beyond tears. I have wondered why you agitate on
the
unbidden behest of others, without the slightest attempt to even
identify
what the XXXX you are now objecting to"
"You are the motherXXXXer who has continously excited these events,"
"And if you XXXX with me and mine I will certainly make entirely sure
you
understand me without a shadow of a doubt."
"Will your sub-personality xganon-XXXX show up..."
"XXXX your condolences."
"if you cant write your own name to your posts why dont you XXXX off?"
"...XXXX that for a game of charlies!"
"Mala fides, malignum spernere vulgus!
(Bad faith and XXXX the people)"
"Neither of these people seem to me to be hyphenable-XXXX to me."
"If you want to XXXX with me lets sort it out. Come on... Lets do it.
Where
do you both live?"
"So interest from Americans has to go around, even avoid USCF [because
they
will XXXX it up],"
"'XXXX' Sam, why be coy when talking of freudian sluts"
"XXXX him! "
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| Jürgen R. 2005-01-09, 6:46 am |
| [...]
quote:
>
>How does working in a used furniture store (your full time job, when
>you were not dabbling with computers) qualify you to be on the USCF
>Executive Biard?
Being a substitute Taxi driver for at least 3 years is the minimum
requirement to be on the Executive Biard.
[...]
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Hui Neng wrote:
quote:
> "Rob" <Care to prove my point further?>
>
> Why don't you answer the question? Why are you sniffing around the
USCF? Why
quote:
> do you have so much information about Crossville?? What is your stake
in all
quote:
> of this??
I live in Tennessee. I play and coach chess and I am developing a
curriculum to bring chess into the school system. I hope to create
something of value for my children and the community as a whole. Since
I have been uninvolved with chess since the late 1970's, this group
affords me the chance to learn who is who in the organization as well
as the world of chess. This group allowed me to make several valuable
contacts that have provided me with information that is useful in
creating and end product.
If you want to know more about me personally, I could go on. I am an
insurance agent and own my own agency in Nashville. I have achieved my
LUTCF professional designation. I am a songwriter and had a song on the
music charts in Australia last year. I have started an organization for
the prevention of child abuse.
Now, Kindly tell me who you are.
Rob
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"Hui Neng" <HuiLewis@philosophy.com> wrote in message
news:NK0Ed.33277$6i.27910@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
quote:
> "Rob" <robmtchl@msn.com>> You have been TOS'ed:
>
> I guess not, dickless piece of trash.
You need to get back on your meds Charlie.
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| Jesse Perkins 2005-01-11, 12:46 am |
| "Rob" <I am an insurance agent and own my own agency in Nashville. >>
No wonder you want to get involved with the USCF. What better addition to a
team of crooks than an insurance agent.
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| michael adams 2005-01-11, 6:46 am |
| Tom Klem wrote:
quote:
>
> You meet the nicest people on this newsgroup.
Yes, you do don't you?! - though wtf rgcp 'identities' persist, instead
of just eff'ing their fcku'n vain crap out of rgcm for good I'll never
know. Isn't rgcp big enough & common enough for you turkeys already?. Go
gobble, gobble elsewhere you tone-lowering cheap & common kunts..
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| michael adams 2005-01-11, 6:46 am |
| Jürgen R. wrote:
quote:
>
> [...]
>
> Being a substitute Taxi driver for at least 3 years is the minimum
> requirement to be on the Executive Biard.
> [...]
-+_How would Chas. Chaplin go here on this Executive (baird)?. Let's
see:
1) He doesn't imbibe strong drink. (XXXXs the timing up)
2) He's a red-meat man.
3) He lurves the wimmens. (young)
4) He makes us laugh (oops) guess he's disqualified - uh, uh, uh..
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| Tom Klem 2005-01-12, 12:46 am |
| You meet the nicest people on this newsgroup.
<ugh>
--
Tom Klem
"There are two kinds of people, those who do the work and those who take the
credit. Try to be in the first group; there is less competition there."
---Indira Gandhi
"Hui Neng" <HuiLewis@philosophy.com> wrote in message
news:R7_Dd.32764$6i.24177@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
quote:
> "George John" It has often been highly proprietary and confidential in
> nature. >>
>
> Sounds like a load of bullshit. So how did you lose One Million Dollars of
> USCF money? Why aren't you in prison?? What reason do you have for
returning
quote:
> to the USCF? Are you interested in stealing the money that is left?? Are
you
quote:
> incompetent?? Why are you back??
>
>
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| Jürgen R. 2005-01-12, 6:47 am |
| [...]
quote:
>
>How does working in a used furniture store (your full time job, when
>you were not dabbling with computers) qualify you to be on the USCF
>Executive Biard?
Being a substitute Taxi driver for at least 3 years is the minimum
requirement to be on the Executive Biard.
[...]
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Hui Neng wrote:
quote:
> "Rob" <Care to prove my point further?>
>
> Why don't you answer the question? Why are you sniffing around the
USCF? Why
quote:
> do you have so much information about Crossville?? What is your stake
in all
quote:
> of this??
I live in Tennessee. I play and coach chess and I am developing a
curriculum to bring chess into the school system. I hope to create
something of value for my children and the community as a whole. Since
I have been uninvolved with chess since the late 1970's, this group
affords me the chance to learn who is who in the organization as well
as the world of chess. This group allowed me to make several valuable
contacts that have provided me with information that is useful in
creating and end product.
If you want to know more about me personally, I could go on. I am an
insurance agent and own my own agency in Nashville. I have achieved my
LUTCF professional designation. I am a songwriter and had a song on the
music charts in Australia last year. I have started an organization for
the prevention of child abuse.
Now, Kindly tell me who you are.
Rob
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"Hui Neng" <HuiLewis@philosophy.com> wrote in message
news:NK0Ed.33277$6i.27910@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
quote:
> "Rob" <robmtchl@msn.com>> You have been TOS'ed:
>
> I guess not, dickless piece of trash.
You need to get back on your meds Charlie.
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| Jürgen R. 2005-01-15, 12:47 am |
| [...]
quote:
>
>How does working in a used furniture store (your full time job, when
>you were not dabbling with computers) qualify you to be on the USCF
>Executive Biard?
Being a substitute Taxi driver for at least 3 years is the minimum
requirement to be on the Executive Biard.
[...]
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| Jesse Perkins 2005-01-15, 6:48 am |
| "Rob" <I am an insurance agent and own my own agency in Nashville. >>
No wonder you want to get involved with the USCF. What better addition to a
team of crooks than an insurance agent.
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| michael adams 2005-01-15, 6:48 am |
| Tom Klem wrote:
quote:
>
> You meet the nicest people on this newsgroup.
Yes, you do don't you?! - though wtf rgcp 'identities' persist, instead
of just eff'ing their fcku'n vain crap out of rgcm for good I'll never
know. Isn't rgcp big enough & common enough for you turkeys already?. Go
gobble, gobble elsewhere you tone-lowering cheap & common kunts..
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| michael adams 2005-01-15, 6:48 am |
| Jürgen R. wrote:
quote:
>
> [...]
>
> Being a substitute Taxi driver for at least 3 years is the minimum
> requirement to be on the Executive Biard.
> [...]
-+_How would Chas. Chaplin go here on this Executive (baird)?. Let's
see:
1) He doesn't imbibe strong drink. (XXXXs the timing up)
2) He's a red-meat man.
3) He lurves the wimmens. (young)
4) He makes us laugh (oops) guess he's disqualified - uh, uh, uh..
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