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Disclosing Convictions
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| Javert 2006-08-15, 11:40 pm |
| So, is the USCF now going to pay to have full background checks done on
every candidate to make sure they are indeed revealing any felony
convictions should they run for the board? That's a good use of my
money!
Or does this only apply to one person whom everyone knows already has
a conviction?
DM 39 (from USCF Membership Meeting)
Just/Cohen/Membership
Any candidate for the USCF EB who has been convicted of an adult felony
in the US must disclose that fact in their Chess Life statement.
Failure to disclose a felony would be grounds for immediate recall.
The candidate will be allowed an additional 100 words in Chess Life.
PASSED
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| Paul Rubin 2006-08-15, 11:40 pm |
| "Javert" <Ins.Javert@gmail.com> writes:
quote:
> So, is the USCF now going to pay to have full background checks done on
> every candidate to make sure they are indeed revealing any felony
> convictions should they run for the board? That's a good use of my
> money!
Background checks of that type aren't very expensive (the background
check agency types the person's SSN into a database and the record
comes back). They might be a good idea. However, the motion as
passed doesn't provide for them.
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| Matt Nemmers 2006-08-15, 11:40 pm |
| Javert wrote:
quote:
> So, is the USCF now going to pay to have full background checks done on
> every candidate to make sure they are indeed revealing any felony
> convictions should they run for the board?
Alllllllllllrighty, then! I may have to renew my membership now.
quote:
> Or does this only apply to one person whom everyone knows already has
> a conviction?
Obviously. It's damage control, but they should've thought about that
when Sloan first ran.
quote:
> DM 39 (from USCF Membership Meeting)
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> Just/Cohen/Membership
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> Any candidate for the USCF EB who has been convicted of an adult felony
> in the US must disclose that fact in their Chess Life statement.
> Failure to disclose a felony would be grounds for immediate recall.
> The candidate will be allowed an additional 100 words in Chess Life.
> PASSED
Note that a felony conviction doesn't automatically disqualify someone
from running for the EB. It simply makes them notify the membership of
the kind of person who wants to represent them.
Kudos to the USCF for doing something right. Better late than never.
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| Sam Sloan 2006-08-15, 11:40 pm |
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Matt Nemmers wrote:
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> Javert wrote:
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> Alllllllllllrighty, then! I may have to renew my membership now.
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> Obviously. It's damage control, but they should've thought about that
> when Sloan first ran.
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> Note that a felony conviction doesn't automatically disqualify someone
> from running for the EB. It simply makes them notify the membership of
> the kind of person who wants to represent them.
>
> Kudos to the USCF for doing something right. Better late than never.
They changed the rule to single me out. That's discrimination. I'll sue
if I'm forced to list my conviction record next time. They're not going
to get away with this.
Sam Sloan
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| Chess Freak 2006-08-17, 2:38 am |
| Duh, that's not discrimination, fakesloan.
"Sam Sloan" <samsloan@usa.com> wrote in message
news:1155691956.569089.52540@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
quote:
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> Matt Nemmers wrote:
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> They changed the rule to single me out. That's discrimination. I'll sue
> if I'm forced to list my conviction record next time. They're not going
> to get away with this.
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> Sam Sloan
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Sam Sloan wrote:
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> Matt Nemmers wrote:
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[vbcol=seagreen]
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> They changed the rule to single me out. That's discrimination. I'll sue
> if I'm forced to list my conviction record next time. They're not going
> to get away with this.
http://tinyurl.com/s8ws3
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> Sam Sloan
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| marcus@stkittsnevischess.org 2006-08-18, 7:36 pm |
| You chessplayers are a bunch of IDIOTS. It is not LAWFUL to make a
candidate disclose a conviction under certain circumstances - like an
expungement. You have UNEDUCATED, CORRUPT, DISHONEST, chessplayers, and
I am going to HURT CHESS.
What are you going to do, molest children at your executive board
meetings?
Marcus Roberts
Javert wrote:
quote:
> So, is the USCF now going to pay to have full background checks done on
> every candidate to make sure they are indeed revealing any felony
> convictions should they run for the board? That's a good use of my
> money!
>
> Or does this only apply to one person whom everyone knows already has
> a conviction?
>
> DM 39 (from USCF Membership Meeting)
>
> Just/Cohen/Membership
>
> Any candidate for the USCF EB who has been convicted of an adult felony
> in the US must disclose that fact in their Chess Life statement.
> Failure to disclose a felony would be grounds for immediate recall.
> The candidate will be allowed an additional 100 words in Chess Life.
> PASSED
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| Chess Freak 2006-08-18, 11:39 pm |
| Expungement? Is that a new word you just invented, Marus?
I find your post mildly ironic yet true to form. HURT away,
little man. Stop talking about it and DO it. I'm waiting.
<marcus@stkittsnevischess.org> wrote in message
news:1155939019.134380.72420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> You chessplayers are a bunch of IDIOTS. It is not LAWFUL to make a
> candidate disclose a conviction under certain circumstances - like an
> expungement. You have UNEDUCATED, CORRUPT, DISHONEST, chessplayers, and
> I am going to HURT CHESS.
>
> What are you going to do, molest children at your executive board
> meetings?
>
> Marcus Roberts
>
> Javert wrote:
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| Matt Nemmers 2006-08-18, 11:39 pm |
| marcus@stkittsnevischess.org wrote:
quote:
> You chessplayers are a bunch of IDIOTS. It is not LAWFUL to make a
> candidate disclose a conviction
If you ever had a JOB, Mark-Bob, you would know that employers
routinely demand such information. Failure to disclose a felony
conviction is, in most cases, grounds for immediate dismissal.
People running for public office -- such as the USCF Executive Board --
have an obligation not only to the organization, but to the membership
to disclose such information.
quote:
> under certain circumstances - like an expungement.
What exactly is an "expungement," Mr. Mason?
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> I am going to HURT CHESS.
As everyone can see, Susan Polgar was WAY off base when she said Marcus
Roberts is bad for chess.
[/sarcasm]
I laugh at you, Mark-Bob. I laugh, and fart in your general direction.
quote:
> What are you going to do, molest children at your executive board
> meetings?
I hope not, but with Sloan on the EB no promises can be made.
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marcus@stkittsnevischess.org wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> You chessplayers are a bunch of IDIOTS. It is not LAWFUL to make a
> candidate disclose a conviction under certain circumstances - like an
> expungement. You have UNEDUCATED, CORRUPT, DISHONEST, chessplayers, and
> I am going to HURT CHESS.
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> What are you going to do, molest children at your executive board
> meetings?
>
> Marcus Roberts
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> Javert wrote:
The USCF is a private membership organization. As such they can create
any rules for membershi they wish. Is it a good idea to know this
information? I would have to say yes. Many insurance policies will not
cover convicted felons. That could cost the organization lots of
trouble and money.
When dealing with the children of others, it is also important to have
a morally clean slate. Morality is a fluid thing and is dependant upon
the society in which sets the standards. Most people were offended by
the articles in Chess Life about the Butapest prostitutes. While the
writing would not have been morally out of place in the Penthouse
Forums, it was morally unsuitable for Chess Life.
I think Sam may be ill suited to serve on the EB. As the radicals of
the 60's knew well that you lost effectiveness to protest once you
become a part of the system, he will be less effective now that he is
on the EB. A gadfly cannot motivate a horse while it rides inside of
the saddle bag. You can still hear it, but it is inneffective from it's
current location.
Rob
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