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> Sam Sloan
> 1664 Davidson Avenue,
> Apt. 1B
> Bronx NY 10453
> USA
>
> 917-507-7226
> samsloan@samsloan.com
>
> April 7, 2006
>
> Christian KRAUSE
> Laerchenstrasse 10
> D-85659
> Forstern, Germany
>
> elo@schachbund.de
>
> Re: Complaint regarding Ralf
> Callenberg
>
> Dear Mr. Krause,
>
> I believe that over the years I have met you at chess events,
> including especially Olympiads. You may recall meeting me.
>
> I am writing to complain to you about the despicable behavior of Ralf
> Callenberg, a member of your organization. I am writing to you in
> particular because Mr. Callenberg has used you as a reference. Mr.
> Callenberg states that he is a member of the Munich Chess Club, that
> you know him personally, that you consider him to be a person of high
> moral integrity and repute and that you will vouch for him.
>
> I, on the other hand, have rather the opposite opinion of Mr.
> Callenberg.
>
> I have been writing biographies of chess players and posting them on
> the Internet. I have written more than one hundred of these
> biographies for Wikipedia. I suspect that you may have read some of
> them. In most cases, I am writing about grandmasters and other famous
> players but in some cases I have written about lesser known
> personalities.
>
> All of this advances the cause of chess because it makes available to
> the general public information about chess personalities which
> otherwise would not come to the public view.
>
> For the last four months, starting in December 2005, Mr. Callenberg
> has been attacking all of my chess biographies. By attacking I do not
> mean that he disagrees with them, or makes disparaging remarks about
> them or about me, or that he posts contrary points of view. Rather,
> what Mr. Callenberg does is he deletes and erases them.
>
> Since December, 2005, Mr. Callenberg has substantially deleted more
> than fifty, 50, chess biographies I have posted on the Internet. Every
> biography I have posted on Wikipedia for the past four months has been
> substantially deleted by Mr. Callenberg.
>
> In general, he does not delete the entire biography. He usually leaves
> one or two short, generally meaningless, lines, so that he can avoid
> the accusation of vandalism, but he cuts out the heart of the
> biography.
>
> More than that, he does this only two to five minutes after I have
> posted the biography. In other words, he deletes what I have written
> so quickly that nobody gets a chance to read it before it has been
> deleted by Mr. Callenberg.
>
> Callenberg has obviously spent the past four months lying in wait so
> that any time I post anything on the Internet, Callenberg pounces and
> deletes it within minutes after I have posted it. He deletes it under
> the USER ID "Rook wave".
>
> This practice by Mr. Callenberg has international implications which
> should concern you because I am a supporter of Bessel Kok and his
> Right Move campaign to become FIDE President at the elections in Italy
> next month. Mr. Callenberg is obviously a supporter of his opponent,
> the Incumbent Kirsan Ilyumzhinov. Every time I write something in
> praise of Bessel Kok and the team he has assembled to run FIDE if he
> is elected and every time I write something unfavorable about Mr.
> Ilyumzhinov, Mr. Callenberg deletes it.
>
> For example, I have been writing about the circumstances under which
> Kirsan Ilyumzhinov was elected FIDE President in Yerevan, Armenia in
> 1996. More than one hundred journalists were present and the
> circumstances are well known, that Ignatuis Leong of Singapore had
> been hired by Kirsan to bring a shipment of specially made Rolex and
> other watches from Singapore to Armenia. These watches were
> distributed to the FIDE Delegates in exchange for their votes. Indeed,
> the USA Delegate, Stave Doyle, has stated that he received a Rolex
> Watch from Kirsan. However, during the FIDE Congress, Leong, for
> reasons unknown, revolted, saying that he has not been paid. Leong was
> holding three proxies from other countries, one of which was Pakistan.
> The election was going to be close. In view of the closeness of the
> election, Leong found himself surrounded by three bodyguards of Kirsan
> and the bodyguards took away the proxies from Leong. Leong claimed
> that the bodyguards had threatened to kill him. Fearing for his life,
> Leong hid in Steve Doyle's hotel room and did not come to the meetings
> the next day. The following day, October 1, 1996, Kirsan paid Leong
> $7,.000 in cash for the watches and services. Leong came out of hiding
> and then both he and Steve Doyle defected. Doyle had come to Yerevan
> as a member of the slate of Jaime Sunye Neto, who was running for
> president against Kirsan. When Doyle defected and agreed to join the
> Kirsan slate. the support for Jaime Sunye Neto collapsed and Kirsan
> was elected by 88 votes to 43. As a reward for changing sides, Doyle
> and Leong were both appointed Vice-Presidents of FIDE, which meant
> that Kirsan paid for trips around the world for them to attend the
> many FIDE official functions. Doyle also got to keep his Rolex watch.
>
> These facts and circumstances are, of course, controversial. However,
> they were widely reported. Ignatuis Leong himself wrote and posted a
> report on these events. International Arbiter Carol Jarecki reported
> on this as did Egon Ditt, head of the German Delegation. Indeed, with
> more than one hundred journalists present and reporting on these
> events, there can be no doubt that there were dozens of reports
> published around the world on these events.
>
> If Mr. Callenberg were to post his own obviously different version of
> what happened, I would have no objection and indeed I would welcome
> it. A free flow of ideas needs to be encouraged. However, Mr.
> Callenberg has not done that. Instead, he has simply deleted every
> word I have written about this subject.
>
> We have been debating this subject on the Internet for the past month.
> That is how Mr. Callenberg brought up your name. Callenberg states
> that Christian Krause knows him, will support him and will vouch for
> him.
>
> Obviously, Callenberg has the right of freedom of speech. He says that
> you, Christian Krause, will support him under the principle of freedom
> of speech. However, I do not believe that you will support him,
> because Callenberg has not provided any speech. He only deletes. Until
> a few weeks ago, Callenberg never added or changed even one word. He
> only deleted what I wrote.
>
> I realize that what Callenberg does is not illegal. However, I believe
> that it is unethical. Because of Herr Callenberg's praise of Kirsan
> Ilyumzhinov and his deletions of everything I write to the contrary,
> this could swing the results of the election. The election will be
> close. Possibly, only one or two votes will decide it. My writings are
> widely read. I have a big audience, as I am sure you know. No doubt
> this is the reason why Callenberg deletes everything I write rather
> than respond to it. Nobody will read what he writes, but everybody
> will read what I write.
>
> In the USCF, we have a procedure to bring an ethics complaint against
> people like Callenberg. I do not know whether the USCF Ethics
> Committee would accept this case if Callenberg were a US National.
> However, Callenberg is a German National and a FIDE Rated Player with
> a rating of 2154. See
> http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=4666313
>
> Accordingly, I am requesting that, if possible and legally allowed,
> your chess federation bring a proceeding to censure or reprimand or
> otherwise punish Herr Callenberg.
>
> Very Truly
> Yours,
>
>
>
> Sam Sloan

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> Accordingly, I am requesting that, if possible and legally allowed,
> your chess federation bring a proceeding to censure or reprimand or
> otherwise punish Herr Callenberg.

quote:

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> every time I write something unfavorable about Mr.
> Ilyumzhinov, Mr. Callenberg deletes it.

quote:

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>
> For example, I have been writing about the circumstances under which
> Kirsan Ilyumzhinov was elected FIDE President in Yerevan, Armenia in
> 1996. More than one hundred journalists were present and the
> circumstances are well known, that Ignatuis Leong of Singapore had
> been hired by Kirsan to bring a shipment of specially made Rolex and
> other watches from Singapore to Armenia. These watches were
> distributed to the FIDE Delegates in exchange for their votes. Indeed,
> the USA Delegate, Stave Doyle, has stated that he received a Rolex
> Watch from Kirsan. However, during the FIDE Congress, Leong, for
> reasons unknown, revolted, saying that he has not been paid. Leong was
> holding three proxies from other countries, one of which was Pakistan.
> The election was going to be close. In view of the closeness of the
> election, Leong found himself surrounded by three bodyguards of Kirsan
> and the bodyguards took away the proxies from Leong. Leong claimed
> that the bodyguards had threatened to kill him. Fearing for his life,
> Leong hid in Steve Doyle's hotel room and did not come to the meetings
> the next day. The following day, October 1, 1996, Kirsan paid Leong
> $7,.000 in cash for the watches and services. Leong came out of hiding
> and then both he and Steve Doyle defected. Doyle had come to Yerevan
> as a member of the slate of Jaime Sunye Neto, who was running for
> president against Kirsan. When Doyle defected and agreed to join the
> Kirsan slate. the support for Jaime Sunye Neto collapsed and Kirsan
> was elected by 88 votes to 43. As a reward for changing sides, Doyle
> and Leong were both appointed Vice-Presidents of FIDE, which meant
> that Kirsan paid for trips around the world for them to attend the
> many FIDE official functions. Doyle also got to keep his Rolex watch.
>
> These facts and circumstances are, of course, controversial. However,
> they were widely reported. Ignatuis Leong himself wrote and posted a
> report on these events. International Arbiter Carol Jarecki reported
> on this as did Egon Ditt, head of the German Delegation. Indeed, with
> more than one hundred journalists present and reporting on these
> events, there can be no doubt that there were dozens of reports
> published around the world on these events.
>

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> your chess federation bring a proceeding to censure or reprimand or
> otherwise punish Herr Callenberg.

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> all makes it utterly irrelevant.
>
>

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> Sam Sloan
> 1664 Davidson Avenue,
> Apt. 1B
> Bronx NY 10453
> USA
>
> 917-507-7226
> samsloan@samsloan.com
>
> April 7, 2006
>
> Christian KRAUSE
> Laerchenstrasse 10
> D-85659
> Forstern, Germany
>
> elo@schachbund.de
>
> Re: Complaint regarding Ralf
> Callenberg
>
> Dear Mr. Krause,
>
> I believe that over the years I have met you at chess events,
> including especially Olympiads. You may recall meeting me.
>
> I am writing to complain to you about the despicable behavior of Ralf
> Callenberg, a member of your organization. I am writing to you in
> particular because Mr. Callenberg has used you as a reference. Mr.
> Callenberg states that he is a member of the Munich Chess Club, that
> you know him personally, that you consider him to be a person of high
> moral integrity and repute and that you will vouch for him.
>
> I, on the other hand, have rather the opposite opinion of Mr.
> Callenberg.
>
> I have been writing biographies of chess players and posting them on
> the Internet. I have written more than one hundred of these
> biographies for Wikipedia. I suspect that you may have read some of
> them. In most cases, I am writing about grandmasters and other famous
> players but in some cases I have written about lesser known
> personalities.
>
> All of this advances the cause of chess because it makes available to
> the general public information about chess personalities which
> otherwise would not come to the public view.
>
> For the last four months, starting in December 2005, Mr. Callenberg
> has been attacking all of my chess biographies. By attacking I do not
> mean that he disagrees with them, or makes disparaging remarks about
> them or about me, or that he posts contrary points of view. Rather,
> what Mr. Callenberg does is he deletes and erases them.
>
> Since December, 2005, Mr. Callenberg has substantially deleted more
> than fifty, 50, chess biographies I have posted on the Internet. Every
> biography I have posted on Wikipedia for the past four months has been
> substantially deleted by Mr. Callenberg.
>
> In general, he does not delete the entire biography. He usually leaves
> one or two short, generally meaningless, lines, so that he can avoid
> the accusation of vandalism, but he cuts out the heart of the
> biography.
>
> More than that, he does this only two to five minutes after I have
> posted the biography. In other words, he deletes what I have written
> so quickly that nobody gets a chance to read it before it has been
> deleted by Mr. Callenberg.
>
> Callenberg has obviously spent the past four months lying in wait so
> that any time I post anything on the Internet, Callenberg pounces and
> deletes it within minutes after I have posted it. He deletes it under
> the USER ID "Rook wave".
>
> This practice by Mr. Callenberg has international implications which
> should concern you because I am a supporter of Bessel Kok and his
> Right Move campaign to become FIDE President at the elections in Italy
> next month. Mr. Callenberg is obviously a supporter of his opponent,
> the Incumbent Kirsan Ilyumzhinov. Every time I write something in
> praise of Bessel Kok and the team he has assembled to run FIDE if he
> is elected and every time I write something unfavorable about Mr.
> Ilyumzhinov, Mr. Callenberg deletes it.
>
> For example, I have been writing about the circumstances under which
> Kirsan Ilyumzhinov was elected FIDE President in Yerevan, Armenia in
> 1996. More than one hundred journalists were present and the
> circumstances are well known, that Ignatuis Leong of Singapore had
> been hired by Kirsan to bring a shipment of specially made Rolex and
> other watches from Singapore to Armenia. These watches were
> distributed to the FIDE Delegates in exchange for their votes. Indeed,
> the USA Delegate, Stave Doyle, has stated that he received a Rolex
> Watch from Kirsan. However, during the FIDE Congress, Leong, for
> reasons unknown, revolted, saying that he has not been paid. Leong was
> holding three proxies from other countries, one of which was Pakistan.
> The election was going to be close. In view of the closeness of the
> election, Leong found himself surrounded by three bodyguards of Kirsan
> and the bodyguards took away the proxies from Leong. Leong claimed
> that the bodyguards had threatened to kill him. Fearing for his life,
> Leong hid in Steve Doyle's hotel room and did not come to the meetings
> the next day. The following day, October 1, 1996, Kirsan paid Leong
> $7,.000 in cash for the watches and services. Leong came out of hiding
> and then both he and Steve Doyle defected. Doyle had come to Yerevan
> as a member of the slate of Jaime Sunye Neto, who was running for
> president against Kirsan. When Doyle defected and agreed to join the
> Kirsan slate. the support for Jaime Sunye Neto collapsed and Kirsan
> was elected by 88 votes to 43. As a reward for changing sides, Doyle
> and Leong were both appointed Vice-Presidents of FIDE, which meant
> that Kirsan paid for trips around the world for them to attend the
> many FIDE official functions. Doyle also got to keep his Rolex watch.
>
> These facts and circumstances are, of course, controversial. However,
> they were widely reported. Ignatuis Leong himself wrote and posted a
> report on these events. International Arbiter Carol Jarecki reported
> on this as did Egon Ditt, head of the German Delegation. Indeed, with
> more than one hundred journalists present and reporting on these
> events, there can be no doubt that there were dozens of reports
> published around the world on these events.
>
> If Mr. Callenberg were to post his own obviously different version of
> what happened, I would have no objection and indeed I would welcome
> it. A free flow of ideas needs to be encouraged. However, Mr.
> Callenberg has not done that. Instead, he has simply deleted every
> word I have written about this subject.
>
> We have been debating this subject on the Internet for the past month.
> That is how Mr. Callenberg brought up your name. Callenberg states
> that Christian Krause knows him, will support him and will vouch for
> him.
>
> Obviously, Callenberg has the right of freedom of speech. He says that
> you, Christian Krause, will support him under the principle of freedom
> of speech. However, I do not believe that you will support him,
> because Callenberg has not provided any speech. He only deletes. Until
> a few weeks ago, Callenberg never added or changed even one word. He
> only deleted what I wrote.
>
> I realize that what Callenberg does is not illegal. However, I believe
> that it is unethical. Because of Herr Callenberg's praise of Kirsan
> Ilyumzhinov and his deletions of everything I write to the contrary,
> this could swing the results of the election. The election will be
> close. Possibly, only one or two votes will decide it. My writings are
> widely read. I have a big audience, as I am sure you know. No doubt
> this is the reason why Callenberg deletes everything I write rather
> than respond to it. Nobody will read what he writes, but everybody
> will read what I write.
>
> In the USCF, we have a procedure to bring an ethics complaint against
> people like Callenberg. I do not know whether the USCF Ethics
> Committee would accept this case if Callenberg were a US National.
> However, Callenberg is a German National and a FIDE Rated Player with
> a rating of 2154. See
> http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=4666313
>
> Accordingly, I am requesting that, if possible and legally allowed,
> your chess federation bring a proceeding to censure or reprimand or
> otherwise punish Herr Callenberg.
>
> Very Truly
> Yours,
>
>
>
> Sam Sloan
>

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>
> We can also punish Sam Sloan. Sam, please don't throw stones in GLASS
> HOUSES.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Marcus Roberts
> Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
>

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>
> Accordingly, I am requesting that, if possible and legally allowed,
> your chess federation bring a proceeding to censure or reprimand or
> otherwise punish Herr Callenberg.

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> Sam Sloan wrote:
>
>
>
> Mr. Sloan,
>
> Its a free world, and wiki is a free democratic tool. If somehow your
> writings are deleted or altered, its because of the democratic freedom
> of the system. You DO NOT seem to understand this, and therefore wrongly
> accuses a fellow wiki contributor.
>
> I am going to petition your pitiful behaviour at the wiki board.
>
> Regards
> Yasuen Yang.
>
> PS. Cross post to irrelevant groups removed.

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>
> The argument can certainly be made that you have single-handedly made
> Wikipedia a completely useless, if not dangerous, source of information on
> the internet. The fact that Wikipedia still allows you to post anything at
> all makes it utterly irrelevant.
>
>

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>
> Dear Mr. Krause,
>
> I believe that over the years I have met you at chess events,
> including especially Olympiads. You may recall meeting me.
>

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> Sam Sloan wrote:
>
>
>
> Mr. Sloan,
>
> Its a free world, and wiki is a free democratic tool. If somehow your
> writings are deleted or altered, its because of the democratic freedom
> of the system. You DO NOT seem to understand this, and therefore wrongly
> accuses a fellow wiki contributor.
>
> I am going to petition your pitiful behaviour at the wiki board.
>
> Regards
> Yasuen Yang.
>
> PS. Cross post to irrelevant groups removed.

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> Its a free world, and wiki is a free democratic tool. If somehow your
> writings are deleted or altered, its because of the democratic freedom
> of the system. You DO NOT seem to understand this, and therefore
> wrongly accuses a fellow wiki contributor.

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> right then and there for Scammie (not that Scammie had any chance of
> winning anyway.)
>

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>
> Wikipedia is fiction masquerading as an interactive encyclopedia.
>

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> Wikipedia is swill. Like toilet water. Whatever drops in is welcome. Like
> Sam. Any encyclopedia that allows you clowns to contribute is inherently
> garbage.

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>
> Sam's contributions have not fared so well in Wikipedia. That is why
> he is whining about it, if you didn't notice.

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>
> It's not a democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/WP:NOT). Anything that
> doesn't meet the standards gets removed. Sam's stuff was opinionated
> (violating neutrality) and factually undocumented (violating
> verifiability), so it had to go.

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> but in the off-chance that he wants me to write a letter to
> the Schachbund about Sloan's insane behavior that led to the dispute,
> I'll be happy to do so.

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> However deleting entries without giving arguments is an act of vandalism.

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>
> Arguments were given: the stuff removed was opinionated nonsense with
> no verifiable sources cited.
>
> See:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability

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> Editors should provide references however vandals can delete their entries
> just because they dislike authors. That makes Wiki not serious.

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> Complaint to German Chess Federation against Ralf Callenberg
> ... Mr. Callenberg has used you as a reference. Mr.
> Callenberg states that he is a member of the Munich
> Chess Club, that you know him personally, that you
> consider him to be a person of high moral integrity
> and repute and that you will vouch for him.

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> Sam Sloan lied, I were calling Mr. Krause as a
> reference for my moral integrity etc., whereas I
> only mentioned his name in connection with the
> correctness of my Elo-rating (questioned before
> by Sam Sloan).

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>
> Care to cite any examples?

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>
> Care to delete entries written by Sam ?
> You did it once and Hans did it many times.

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> Sam's entries got deleted because they were not neutral or verifiable
> according to Wikipedia standards, and in some cases because they were
> copied without attribution from other web sites. In each case, the
> reason for deletion was given. Sam didn't like the reasons, so he
> filed arbitration cases within Wikipedia against Ralf and me (I'm not
> sure who Hans is). He also had previously filed a case against the
> admin who deleted his Tom Dorsch attack article after a consensus of
> editors called for its deletion on a discussion page created for the
> purpose. The arbitrators rejected all three of Sam's cases by 4-0
> votes. The stuff of Sam's that got deleted, got deleted for good
> reasons that were amply explained.

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>
> Why don't you actually take a look at Wikipedia, either the English
> version or the Polish one at <http://pl.wikipedia.org>. It has its
> imperfections but it's nowhere near as crazy as you seem to think.

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> You give examples of "Paul Rubin" or "Tom Dorsch" - I understand
> that you don`t like Sam and his work because he belongs to your
> political opposition,

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> however Sam`s entries were deleted many more
> times by Hans and it is simply vandalism.

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> Because of the imperfections I mentioned above Wiki is not a serious
> encyclopaedia.

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> I don't think that's correct. I have this semi-quarrel going on with
> Sam since fairly recently, but at other times I've supported him here.
> I don't have a problem with Sam posting his stuff to Usenet or to his
> own web site, and I often read it there with some interest although I
> don't take it seriously. I do have a problem with his putting it on
> Wikipedia because frequently it's not up to Wikipedia's standards of
> fact checking or neutrality. Those standards don't apply to Usenet or
> people's personal web sites, so Usenet and the web are better venues
> for Sam to publish in. But despite your opinion, those standards
> really do mean something on Wikipedia.

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>
>
> Have you got any specific examples of vandalous deletions of Sam's
> entries by Hans? Who is Hans, anyway? Do you mean Ralf (a/k/a
> Rook_wave)?
>
>
> It has its problems, but it would be even worse with edits like Sam's
> left in place.

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> Surely you overestimate the importance of Wiki. And it is not a place
> free of vandals.

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> You apparently believe that usenet or Wiki or the USCF would be better
> without Sam but I can see here only morons attacking him - far below
> his class - who could never write any interesting articles here or in
> Wiki.

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>
> Of course it's not free of vandals. Poland (or any other country
> which doesn't lock everyone up) isn't free of vandals either.
> Wikipedia vandalism does usually get cleaned up pretty quickly.

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>
>
> I have no idea whether the USCF is better off with Sam or without him.
>
> Sam's writing has some value on Usenet because it's usually
> interesting even though it's often inaccurate. It doesn't belong on
> Wikipedia because Wikipedia values being accurate more than it values
> being interesting.
>
> Your complaints are awfully vague. You still haven't named a single
> example of a vandalous edit to anything Sam did on Wikipedia.

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>
> Why don't you pick an interesting topic (maybe not chess-related) and
> look at it on either the English or Polish wikipedia and see what you
> think instead of fantasizing? Or if you read German,
> http://de.wikipedia.org is supposed to be the highest quality of all
> the wikipedias (the English one has grown a little too fast, maybe).

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> Of course you won`t admit that deleting so many articles written by
> Sam in Wiki was an act od vandalism and you won`t bother whether Sam
> is in the USCF or in Wiki and you will delete all content on you
> written by Sam because he is a political opponent of yours not because
> of alleged "inaccuracies".

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> If Hans had been competent he would have corrected the inaccuracies
> but would not have deleted the whole article.

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>
> Lots of stuff written by Sam doesn't get deleted. The stuff that's
> obviously crap gets deleted.

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>
>
> That's not Hans's job, whoever Hans is. Sam spends 3 minutes making
> up garbage and other people then have to spend 3 hours researching
> corrections? Forget it. Just remove the garbage. If the subject is
> important, someone more careful than Sam will eventually write about it.
>
> Have you LOOKED at any of the stuff of Sam's that got removed?

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> We are talkin` about deleting articles by Hans.

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>
> Can you cite a specific example? Give the name of the article.

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> Under the rules of Wikipedia, Ralf Callenberg is clearly a vandal and
> should be blocked.

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> I suspect that he has already been banned for this
> sort of behavior under other IPs.

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> Under the rules of Wikipedia, Ralf Callenberg
> is clearly a vandal and should be blocked.

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> Can`t you read ? Do some research on this group.

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> An argument can be made that by deleting Sloan's tripe, even in the
> face of puerile threats by Sloan, shows that Wikipedia is a viable
> source of information on the web.

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>
> I'm quite familiar with what's been on the group. I don't know of
> anything that fits your description. You're the one making the
> accusations: backing them up with specifics is your job, not mine.
>
> So, what is the name of the article? Or could it be that you just
> make up bullshit the same way Sam Sloan does?

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> Bullsh*t is what you write. Of course you will never admit that
> deleting articles by Hans was an act of vandalism.

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>
> Help is available for your problem: <http://www.peele.net/faq/crack.html>.
>
> Bye.

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> "Jerzy" <jciruk@poczta.fm> writes:
>
> Can you cite a specific example? Give the name of the article.

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> Sam Sloan

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> [...] it's nowhere near as crazy as you seem to think.

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> have overran

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> ... Please provide a statement by me in any of these
> articles that was not true and cannot be verified ...

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> Here are some of the articles by me in which "Rook wave" a/k/a Ralf
> Callenberg deleted some or most of the article. Please provide a
> statement by me in any of these articles that was not true and cannot
> be verified:

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> samsloan wrote:
>
>
> There were discussions on Wikipedia, you tried it with a request for
> arbritration. Not one Wikipedia admin criticised my deletions with a
> single word. You constantly whine in this group about this, complained
> about my actions in Wikipedia, now complained to the DSB - without the
> slightest success. What next? Complaints to the German government, the
> EU, the UNESCO, the UN, Starfleet Command, the Last Judgement? Man,
> stop whining and start writing reasonable articles. I am not sure what
> I despise more, your stupid lies or your sissy attitude.
>
> Greetings,
> Ralf

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> Sam Sloan (samhsloan@gmail.com)
> wrote (10 Apr 2006 04:11:27 -0700):
>
> _
> "For the past more than 30 years, every time a new
> book by Keene has come out or a new article by
> Keene has been published, Edward Winter has
> written articles attacking it." - Sam Sloan
> (sloan@ishipress.com) (Fri, 03 Mar 2006
> 16:46:37 GMT)

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> 1. Not true and
> 2. Cannot be verified

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> "samsloan" <samhsloan@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Verifiable on wikipedia means you have to provide a precise source for
> the statement. It's not enough that someone else can find a citation
> if they spend THEIR time doing the research. If you want to insert a
> contentious statement, then doing the research to supply a cite
> backing it up is your job, not someone else's.

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> Kindly provide to this group an example of one statement which I posted
> on Wikipedia and which you deleted which is:
>
> 1. Not true and
> 2. Cannot be verified

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> In many cases the deletions were just changes to a more neutral tone,
> as in the Jana Bellin article. Here is what you have written:
>
> <quote>
> She is best known for marrying chess grandmasters. First she married
> William Hartston. Then she married Tony Miles. Then she married Robert
> Bellin. This information may not be up to date, as it is difficult to
> keep up with recent developments.
> </quote>
>
> You don't have to know anything about chess to realize, that this is
> gossip and unencyclopedic ranting. So, I removed the first and last
> sentence and slightly changed the part inbetween.

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> And about chessplayer marriages: Sam claimed that John and Elena
> Donaldson got married at the US Embassy in Geneva, Switzerland ...
>
> Sam repeatedly confuses his imagination with actual facts.

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> Gah, now he's got me doing it too. He just said US Embassy in
> Switzerland; not Geneva, Switzerland. That doesn't change the fact
> that he got the country wrong.

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> "Ralf Callenberg" <ralf.callenberg@web.de> writes:
>
> Even after you restore a neutral tone, Sam's factual claims
> themselves, even the non-outlandish-sounding ones, are wrong a lot of
> the time.

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> But I'm not a stupid XXXXing Pollack like you.
>
> Sam Sloan

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> But I'm not a stupid XXXXing Pollack like you.
>
> Ray Gordon

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> "Ray Gordon" wrote :
>
> Moron you forgot to impersonate Sam this time.
>
> I can see that you moron have impersonated many persons here

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> We will see whether Christian Krause thinks that this is a big joke.

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>
> ... amongst them Ray Gordon ...

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> I sent my complaint against Ralf Callenberg to Christian Krause by
> registered mail yesterday, April 10, 2006.

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> Apparently, Herr Callenberg feels that this matter is a big joke

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> taken? Of course this is a joke.
>
>

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> "Ralf Callenberg" wrote :
>
>
> Do you claim that Ray impersonate himself and others ? IMO someone else
> impersonate him and Sam and others.
>

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> Sam never jokes.

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> he will continue to attack your reputation.

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> 12.04.2006 05:28, Sam Sloan:
>
> Didn't you send it already via e-mail?
>
>
> You start your letter with stupid lies, which can be revealed within
> minutes by a simple Google search. How serious do you expect this to be
> taken? Of course this is a joke.
>
> Greetings,
> Ralf

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>
> Where is the lie? Do you think it is a lie where I said that I met him
> at a Chess Olympiad?

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>
> No, but I think, that the guy you are talking to is actually not Ray Gordon,
>

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> "Paul Rubin" wrote :
>
> That`s your problem. I don`t use drugs :P
>

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> "Paul Rubin" wrote :
>
>

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> Bullsh*t is what you write. Of course you will never admit that
> deleting articles by Hans was an act of vandalism.
>

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> 12.04.2006 11:18, Jerzy:
>
> No, but I think, that the guy you are talking to is actually not Ray
> Gordon,
>
> Greetings,
> Ralf